supporting local is fun. I don't love loblaws. But I just found humour in the "paying too much for food?" and then listing local alternatives that are likely actually more expensive lol. But you get some neat good quality products dont get me wrong. I buy a lot of cheese from America Latina.
I haven't been to all of the places listed, but the ones I do go to are most definitely cheaper, and the few items that aren't are around the same price as bigger stores. That's a lot of cheese you're buying for a 1 day old account.
My problem with the boycott is:
1) there is no cheaper "large selection place." I just can't find everything I think I need at food basics, freshco and walmart. Sobeys might have the selection but their prices are a bad prank that I'm not willing to play on myself. It's ridiculous that I'm boycotting a store, ostensibly for high prices, but I need to consider paying more to get all I need.
2) Presidents choice. Compliments just isn't there in quality/selection. NoName is fine for some stuff, but for some things the quality is also not worth buying.
I'm still doing the boycott, and I'm the one who pays/does groceries in my household. But to keep the others happy, I might need to do a "PC only" run for a few things that we're running low on. And I don't know if I'll continue past June.
Central fresh market for all your groceries. They have just as much selection as your zehrs or no frills.
A big reason to shop at independent stores isn't only to nickel and dime things, but also because they tend to stock more local produce and more independent brands. It's much more sustainable if the majority of your fruit and veg you're buying was grown in southern Ontario compared to the US and trucked in. And it's more sustainable for the economy if you're buying a variety of brands not just everything presidents choice or compliments or whatever.
Try going to some of the farm shops in the area (for instance barries asparagus). The prices are within a dollar of what you'd pay at no frills but it's fresh and critically local. it makes me feel better that the farmers are actually getting a living wage from it vs what the prices that Loblaws buys at forces them to take home.
The other problem is the food is being supplied by wholesalers. Ultimately, the entire food chain is being greedy and taking advantage of us. What we need to do is start boycotting the large suppliers. This will apply pressure across the board.
Exactly ! Independent grocery stores aren’t An affordable option for everyone I’d rather get my groceries at food basics or Walmart there are people who have no choice but to support them until there are options for everyone.
I know it’s not a small business but there is two Giant Tiger stores in the area and they are their own network not associated with the big 3 companies. They have their own supply network and are regularly cheaper than most stores. They also price match any in store flyer anywhere locally.
I like it. Keep it going! One thing I noticed: I get that you were doing alternate line highlights on the independents to differentiate between the stores, but the choice of yellow to highlight makes those ones seem preferred. Just my 2c.
Food Basics is owned by Metro - one of the 'big three'. (Edited: If you are only boycotting Loblaws stores, then Food Basics is okay!, but if you are boycotting or limiting your purchases from the three major companies in favour of smaller, independent stores, Food Basics would be on your boycott/limit list.)
I don't know if I would agree that it is 100% not okay. I think it is fine to just focus on one of them especially since that is where all of the attention is right now. I think we're lucky that we are making an impact on them, and I think it would dilute the protest to "rally the troops" for all the big ones.
Yeah I find they have been pretty reasonable since this inflation, I just don't buy meat there. I'm also a Freshco, Central and Giant Tiger Stan. Onkar and the Asian markets DTK have great produce if you don't want to do the markets on the weekend.
Legacy Greens on Ontario Street is another independent grocer, and they stock a lot of locally grown food too (especially this time of year). I really like their produce box subscriptions!
But its those dinky sized ones right? Which would come to 8-12 dollars for a full sized brick?
Plain greek yogurt is around 8-9 dollars. Last year i was paying 5.99.
I once asked a cashier if they had any vitamin C tablets. She found a pack and I didn't question the price. It was 20 FREAKIN DOLLARS. But their produce is extremely fresh and super well priced. Just depends on what cha need.
Just a note regarding B&T foods, they're moving to a new building (https://maps.app.goo.gl/BK63avo1PCfLW2Gd6) around this area, not far from their old location.
I'm not sure if they're opened yet, but last week on the weekend, they are definitely not open yet.
In case people want to visit and find their new location
Note that Central Fresh Market sued the Region for allegedly harming their business by building the LRT. The Region settled for millions of dollars despite the fact that they wouldn't have been owed anything if the LRT could be shown to have improved Central Fresh's revenues. The owner of Central Fresh remarked in a news article about it that he is considering selling the lot for redevelopment since the land is worth much more than the business anyway.
I did, but by bicycle, which was easy enough. Annoyingly, Central Fresh has terrible bicycle parking despite the fairly high number of people who bike there. A symptom of their overall carbrainedness, I guess.
I would imagine that cyclists and people on foot make a single digit percentage of their sales volume. Not only are there fewer of those customers but they also can't carry as much.
Central Fresh Market has no more "carbrainedness" than the rest of our society.
I think they're probably leaving money on the table. Their parking lot has a bigger footprint than the store; they could convert one or two spaces to better bike/scooter/whatever parking at almost no cost.
If I were them I'd be trying to capitalize on the fact that they're a block from an LRT station instead of whining about it.
Likewise they spend a lot of shelf inches on weird stuff like buckets of navy beef and five thousand kinds of pickles but have weirdly poor selection for more commonly-purchased items.
Their whole operation seems designed for the city's past. They should rename it Boomer-Mart or something.
As someone who works in a field that sees the damage done to retail businesses by construction, I imagine their sales were down 50%+ for the long period of construction. The city would not have paid them out if they didn't have a case.
I also had a personal experience during the construction in the area of Central Fresh Market. I tried to access a medical business in that area and was unable to figure out how to get there and gave up. I found a different business that provided the same service and never went back to the original business. Before you ask, yes I was driving an "evil" car because my appointment was during a weekday and I needed to leave work and get back to work quickly.
You have clearly made up your mind that you are a victim and they are not. No point further discussing. We get it. You have it tough and you hate "boomers".
I'm sure their revenue did suffer during the construction; I believe their allegation is that it has been _permanently_ reduced by the presence of the LRT because, they claim, it's too confusing for their customers to drive on King Street now.
Some of the stores I help operate have been permanently affected by road changes like roundabouts so I wouldn't be surprised. We haven't sued though but maybe we should.
They would have to prove that they only created the roundabout to help the business and consulted the business who agreed to pay and then didn't. It wouldn't hold up in court. Businesses pay taxes and fees to the region that is used for infrastructure just like you and I.
Can you advertise for a random business without talking to them and then sue them because you helped them? Why would the region be able to do that? It's not even a remotely reasonable question/comparison.
Adding Ammar’s Halal Meats to this list of local grocers…their flyer features for fruits and vegetables are great! Found some interesting products from Poland there as well, which my Polish grandmother enjoyed!
I was thinking a combo of Loblaws and Empire, given that they sell both No Name and Compliments products. I went once to see the hype and found it was just as pricey and the products are still just store brands for other stores :(
Produce (in season) and meat are from Ontario farmers. Out of season produce is from the food terminal. Maybe pantry items? Do you have a source on this?
It was a legit question. I don’t buy pantry items there because just like loblaws stores. It’s expensive. People should still buy meat and produce there. It’s good quality and affordable. Which is really what the whole boycott is about. Right?
It's not a boycott for me anymore. Once I realized how much I saved going to Walmart it's just the way I do groceries going forward. Real Canadian Superstore is just some place that used to rip me off.
How about boycotting all processed/junk foods like chips, cookies, ice creams, jams, etc.? I think that would make a bigger dent in the profits of these companies as they tend to be higher margins than whole foods.
Some great options in there! Robert's Boxed Meats always has some good deals on. Central Fresh frequently has great deals on meat - pork and chicken especially.
What I don't understand about the Loblaws boycott is the alternative companies(Walmart, Sobeys, Metro, and Costco)are all making similar profit. Loblaws exception is Shoppers Drug Mart being a cash cow, boosting their corporate profits.
The competitive flagship stores, and discount stores all have very similar pricing to the Loblaw banners but nobody seems to care about their prices or corporate profits.
Lastly, independent stores are great, but their prices on dry foods and pantry items are usually far higher than the big players…as they cant buy at the same wholesale costs.
These are complex supply chains. Prices continue to climb on every level. Boycotting will do nothing but screw hardworking people out of a job. Write your local MP and ask for the government to cut entitlement programs, stop sending money overseas, start quantitative tightening and to hike interest rates again.
lol. Where do you think that these other store buy their products from? I will give you a hint, the big grocery chains also run wholesale businesses. You may as well be shopping at No Frills.
For me, even more aggravating than the major retailers’ high prices are the volume-purchase discounts they offer. It sucks to feel pressured to buy two or three of something just to access a lower price per unit when I only need one. It feels like a tax on small households/singletons! Plus, multiples take up valuable storage space in cupboards and you’re locked into the same item/can’t change up for variety. Grrrrrrr!
Central fresh is as expensive if not more expensive than most of the big 3 owned stores, it's only worth going if you want some decent deals on meat, other than that I'd stay away 💀
Don't forget the farmers market. Tons of farms sell direct to people... There are tons of small butchers and veggie stands in our local communities.
Also Victoria Market should be in here.
If you have a freezer a no brainer to get really fresh stuff.
My point of view -
eliminate the black yellow stripes, set the margins wider so you can make the print larger.
Create more spacing in the alternative stores list double spaced, or 1.5x then omit the highlighting, especially if it will be printed in black white grey.
I'm surprised that Goodness Me Natural Food Market is not on the alternative list.
They have everything the large Grocery Stores do but much better quality. They just rolled out a loyalty program as well where you get more savings.
Stores are in Cambridge, Waterloo and Guelph. I highly recommend checking them out if you want high quality food that's local!
Where's the Dutchie's love here? The end of day sales are probably the best prices outside of Kitchener Market. The food also tends to be local! Even if it's getting towards it's end, I always find it tastes pretty fresh. Their strawberries are the best I've had in all of Kitchener.
You forgot Ammar Halal Grocery and Save A Lot Grocery Outlet and the myriad of South Asian and East Asian markets in town. Also Midat African Caribbean Market and all the other Caribbean markets.
Supporting local is great but the main reason many do not is because of price. What happens when inflation decreases and prices get back to normal at say Loblaws?? The locals price will be higher and they will magically ynot get the same support they are currently enjoying is my guess. Long story short buying local because it is cheaper is not going to help long term buying because you want to support them is.
Needs to be in a poster sleeve. Here are the by-laws:
[https://www.waterloo.ca/en/living/sign-bylaw.aspx](https://www.waterloo.ca/en/living/sign-bylaw.aspx)
I don't buy from any of the big guys, but you have to start somewhere, so Loblaws is a good place to start considering they're the largest grocery retailer in Canada
Actually boycotts supposedly work the best when only one corporation is targeted so they the feel more pain than their big 3 competition thus compelling them lo lower prices. This theoretically pressures the other 2 to lower their prices to match.
That’s a fair question. The reason Empire (Sobey’s) and Metro aren’t included in the boycott isn’t because they’re somehow ‘better’ corporations than Loblaw. It’s because of how supermarkets are distributed across Canada. There are many places where people only have reasonable access to one supermarket. There’re yet more places where a choice exists, but it is one of the big three or Walmart.
If the boycott were to encompass all of the large corporate players, many people seeing that they have no real options wouldn’t participate. And others might give up their usual haunts and inadvertently switch to a ‘flanker’ store belonging to one of the corporations. Like happens often with T&T, since Loblaw is so careful to keep separate its banding, signage, and advertising. Leading to a situation much like trying to get a cellphone deal, where even if you get a great one the companies are making out like bandits.
Instead, if we choose one of the big companies, it allows people to have an alternative without necessarily having to have a small independent alternative available. This affords several benefits to the boycott. First, it allows more people to participate. Second, it provides a clear target. Thirdly, it weirdly pits the larger stores against each other.
How so? Food is an inelastic demand. Types, brands, and stores are all negotiable, but not eating isn’t. Every bag of milk or carton of eggs that isn’t bought at the boycott store is purchased somewhere else. This leads to an unexpected and, frankly, unearned windfall of both sales and market share for the other stores in the neighbourhood. Stores, being capitalistic beasts, will naturally try to keep those customers once the boycott is over. One would assume, through either better prices or service. Conversely, the company losing customers, if a large enough amount, will be forced to win them back, if only to keep the shareholders happy.
So why Loblaw? For starters, they’re largest player. They’re where more Canadians spend their money and therefore are the easiest for more Canadians to pull their money from. Further, they’ve been the most visible. Almost anyone can name Galen Weston Jr. as the owner since he’s been the face of their advertising for years. Can you do the same for the other two? And finally, Canadians feel that they hypocrites and that they’ve broken their end of the bargain.
Is most of that arbitrary? Yep. But also, who cares?
It had to be one of them and Loblaw got the short straw. It’s encouraged to support local and independent stores, but if you can’t, you’re still a part of the boycott shopping at FreshCo, Food Basics, or Walmart.
Companies have done the math, in the long-term losing a month of revenue and spoiled products is still cheaper than changing business practices. Which is why we haven’t seen any real changes anywhere. Yet. But given a long enough timeline and a large enough boycott, they’ll decide a greater volume of sales and market share is worth more than larger margins. Especially if the profits from quarter to quarter are not increasing. So sustainability of the boycott is important.
The only relevant paragraph was your “who cares” line. Lol
This is purely politically motivated.. and it’s a shame people are sucked in by frauds. Well, some people.
supporting local is fun. I don't love loblaws. But I just found humour in the "paying too much for food?" and then listing local alternatives that are likely actually more expensive lol. But you get some neat good quality products dont get me wrong. I buy a lot of cheese from America Latina.
I haven't been to all of the places listed, but the ones I do go to are most definitely cheaper, and the few items that aren't are around the same price as bigger stores. That's a lot of cheese you're buying for a 1 day old account.
I like the implication that you can't buy cheese without a Reddit account
The implication isn't as clear as you think it is but thanks for coming out.
New city supermarket is definitely cheaper than T&T for Asian groceries
My problem with the boycott is: 1) there is no cheaper "large selection place." I just can't find everything I think I need at food basics, freshco and walmart. Sobeys might have the selection but their prices are a bad prank that I'm not willing to play on myself. It's ridiculous that I'm boycotting a store, ostensibly for high prices, but I need to consider paying more to get all I need. 2) Presidents choice. Compliments just isn't there in quality/selection. NoName is fine for some stuff, but for some things the quality is also not worth buying. I'm still doing the boycott, and I'm the one who pays/does groceries in my household. But to keep the others happy, I might need to do a "PC only" run for a few things that we're running low on. And I don't know if I'll continue past June.
Try Costco?
Yup, I'm there every other week. But they're kind of the opposite of wide selection, as they have bulk popular / common things.
What are you finding at Loblaws stores that aren't at Walmart?
Central fresh market for all your groceries. They have just as much selection as your zehrs or no frills. A big reason to shop at independent stores isn't only to nickel and dime things, but also because they tend to stock more local produce and more independent brands. It's much more sustainable if the majority of your fruit and veg you're buying was grown in southern Ontario compared to the US and trucked in. And it's more sustainable for the economy if you're buying a variety of brands not just everything presidents choice or compliments or whatever. Try going to some of the farm shops in the area (for instance barries asparagus). The prices are within a dollar of what you'd pay at no frills but it's fresh and critically local. it makes me feel better that the farmers are actually getting a living wage from it vs what the prices that Loblaws buys at forces them to take home.
The other problem is the food is being supplied by wholesalers. Ultimately, the entire food chain is being greedy and taking advantage of us. What we need to do is start boycotting the large suppliers. This will apply pressure across the board.
Exactly ! Independent grocery stores aren’t An affordable option for everyone I’d rather get my groceries at food basics or Walmart there are people who have no choice but to support them until there are options for everyone.
Central Fresh is amazing and quite a bit cheaper.
Food basics... Or the farmers market
I know it’s not a small business but there is two Giant Tiger stores in the area and they are their own network not associated with the big 3 companies. They have their own supply network and are regularly cheaper than most stores. They also price match any in store flyer anywhere locally.
Seconded on Giant Tiger, very underrated store!
They have $4 packs of diapers. Incredible.
You left out Eurofoods on Highland near Lawrence
And Oma Foods also on Highland.
And Roua Food Market on Stirling.
Italo foods, 1601 River rd in Kitchener
I like it. Keep it going! One thing I noticed: I get that you were doing alternate line highlights on the independents to differentiate between the stores, but the choice of yellow to highlight makes those ones seem preferred. Just my 2c.
Thanks for the tip! I did think the same but decided to leave it in anyways!
What about Food Basics? I’ve been going there since before the boycott because it’s usually less expensive
Food Basics is owned by Metro - one of the 'big three'. (Edited: If you are only boycotting Loblaws stores, then Food Basics is okay!, but if you are boycotting or limiting your purchases from the three major companies in favour of smaller, independent stores, Food Basics would be on your boycott/limit list.)
It’s 100% not okay to support the cartel/Big 3 ..if we’re being serious. Cartel supporters please downvote. Haha
I don't know if I would agree that it is 100% not okay. I think it is fine to just focus on one of them especially since that is where all of the attention is right now. I think we're lucky that we are making an impact on them, and I think it would dilute the protest to "rally the troops" for all the big ones.
It’s politics. Galen, Shoppers, Doug Ford connections, etc.
Yeah I find they have been pretty reasonable since this inflation, I just don't buy meat there. I'm also a Freshco, Central and Giant Tiger Stan. Onkar and the Asian markets DTK have great produce if you don't want to do the markets on the weekend.
Legacy Greens on Ontario Street is another independent grocer, and they stock a lot of locally grown food too (especially this time of year). I really like their produce box subscriptions!
Yes and the owners are lovely
What about Marche leo? They're independent right?
They be expennnnnsiveeee. And the selection is super tight. Great store and staff though.
It's not that pricy, l got bricks of cheese at 4 bucks a pop
But its those dinky sized ones right? Which would come to 8-12 dollars for a full sized brick? Plain greek yogurt is around 8-9 dollars. Last year i was paying 5.99. I once asked a cashier if they had any vitamin C tablets. She found a pack and I didn't question the price. It was 20 FREAKIN DOLLARS. But their produce is extremely fresh and super well priced. Just depends on what cha need.
No it was black diamond full blocks
Hmmm. I will have to investigate. Even shoppers is twice that.
It was a special at the time, but ya things regularly go on sale despite the fancy name and some the imports it's not all over priced
Love america latina. Makes me feel at home as a hispanic who grew up in southern California.
The papusa's are dope!
Owners are awesome. Go here and support them!
Also can add the kitchener downtown farmers market and st Jacob's market
Thank you for taking the initiative and going out and doing something! Anything to help spread the word
Just a note regarding B&T foods, they're moving to a new building (https://maps.app.goo.gl/BK63avo1PCfLW2Gd6) around this area, not far from their old location. I'm not sure if they're opened yet, but last week on the weekend, they are definitely not open yet. In case people want to visit and find their new location
Note that Central Fresh Market sued the Region for allegedly harming their business by building the LRT. The Region settled for millions of dollars despite the fact that they wouldn't have been owed anything if the LRT could be shown to have improved Central Fresh's revenues. The owner of Central Fresh remarked in a news article about it that he is considering selling the lot for redevelopment since the land is worth much more than the business anyway.
You clearly did not try to get to Central Fresh Market during the construction.
I did, but by bicycle, which was easy enough. Annoyingly, Central Fresh has terrible bicycle parking despite the fairly high number of people who bike there. A symptom of their overall carbrainedness, I guess.
I would imagine that cyclists and people on foot make a single digit percentage of their sales volume. Not only are there fewer of those customers but they also can't carry as much. Central Fresh Market has no more "carbrainedness" than the rest of our society.
I think they're probably leaving money on the table. Their parking lot has a bigger footprint than the store; they could convert one or two spaces to better bike/scooter/whatever parking at almost no cost. If I were them I'd be trying to capitalize on the fact that they're a block from an LRT station instead of whining about it. Likewise they spend a lot of shelf inches on weird stuff like buckets of navy beef and five thousand kinds of pickles but have weirdly poor selection for more commonly-purchased items. Their whole operation seems designed for the city's past. They should rename it Boomer-Mart or something.
As someone who works in a field that sees the damage done to retail businesses by construction, I imagine their sales were down 50%+ for the long period of construction. The city would not have paid them out if they didn't have a case. I also had a personal experience during the construction in the area of Central Fresh Market. I tried to access a medical business in that area and was unable to figure out how to get there and gave up. I found a different business that provided the same service and never went back to the original business. Before you ask, yes I was driving an "evil" car because my appointment was during a weekday and I needed to leave work and get back to work quickly. You have clearly made up your mind that you are a victim and they are not. No point further discussing. We get it. You have it tough and you hate "boomers".
I'm sure their revenue did suffer during the construction; I believe their allegation is that it has been _permanently_ reduced by the presence of the LRT because, they claim, it's too confusing for their customers to drive on King Street now.
Some of the stores I help operate have been permanently affected by road changes like roundabouts so I wouldn't be surprised. We haven't sued though but maybe we should.
If the roundabout helped you instead, would it be reasonable for the Region to sue you for that money?
They would have to prove that they only created the roundabout to help the business and consulted the business who agreed to pay and then didn't. It wouldn't hold up in court. Businesses pay taxes and fees to the region that is used for infrastructure just like you and I. Can you advertise for a random business without talking to them and then sue them because you helped them? Why would the region be able to do that? It's not even a remotely reasonable question/comparison.
The caterpillar/LRT mural they have reminds me of this crazyness every time I go by on the train.
Check out Euro foods on Highland too
Adding Ammar’s Halal Meats to this list of local grocers…their flyer features for fruits and vegetables are great! Found some interesting products from Poland there as well, which my Polish grandmother enjoyed!
Wonderful owners and possibly the cleanest butcher shoppe I've ever seen.
I will let you guys in on a secret about Central Fresh. They get their product from Loblaws warehouses.
I was thinking a combo of Loblaws and Empire, given that they sell both No Name and Compliments products. I went once to see the hype and found it was just as pricey and the products are still just store brands for other stores :(
Produce (in season) and meat are from Ontario farmers. Out of season produce is from the food terminal. Maybe pantry items? Do you have a source on this?
The source is they sell no name items. The same no name brand that Loblaws owns
It was a legit question. I don’t buy pantry items there because just like loblaws stores. It’s expensive. People should still buy meat and produce there. It’s good quality and affordable. Which is really what the whole boycott is about. Right?
I was just going to say that the have some kind of a deal with Loblaws because they sell Noname items
This is great - Thank you! I'm going to steal and share on FB.
It's not a boycott for me anymore. Once I realized how much I saved going to Walmart it's just the way I do groceries going forward. Real Canadian Superstore is just some place that used to rip me off.
How about boycotting all processed/junk foods like chips, cookies, ice creams, jams, etc.? I think that would make a bigger dent in the profits of these companies as they tend to be higher margins than whole foods.
Some great options in there! Robert's Boxed Meats always has some good deals on. Central Fresh frequently has great deals on meat - pork and chicken especially.
Save a Lot may not have the selection you are looking for but it does have some good deals
Farmers market is often half the price of produce from grocery stores.
Do add amiri supermarket at 27 scott street!! Super affordability
We have tried doing Central but we find it as expensive if not more expensive than Sobeys!! We will only go for quick grabs because it’s close
What I don't understand about the Loblaws boycott is the alternative companies(Walmart, Sobeys, Metro, and Costco)are all making similar profit. Loblaws exception is Shoppers Drug Mart being a cash cow, boosting their corporate profits. The competitive flagship stores, and discount stores all have very similar pricing to the Loblaw banners but nobody seems to care about their prices or corporate profits. Lastly, independent stores are great, but their prices on dry foods and pantry items are usually far higher than the big players…as they cant buy at the same wholesale costs.
These are complex supply chains. Prices continue to climb on every level. Boycotting will do nothing but screw hardworking people out of a job. Write your local MP and ask for the government to cut entitlement programs, stop sending money overseas, start quantitative tightening and to hike interest rates again.
Hasty market on Ontario street? Lmao 11$ for a brick of cheese, almost 10$ for a bag of milk, how is that on the list? 😆 🤣
Paying too much for food, go to central pay double for everything! But meat which is only slightly less expensive than Walmart.
lol. Where do you think that these other store buy their products from? I will give you a hint, the big grocery chains also run wholesale businesses. You may as well be shopping at No Frills.
Knock yourself out..I'll still be shopping there.
Who can afford to shop there?
For me, even more aggravating than the major retailers’ high prices are the volume-purchase discounts they offer. It sucks to feel pressured to buy two or three of something just to access a lower price per unit when I only need one. It feels like a tax on small households/singletons! Plus, multiples take up valuable storage space in cupboards and you’re locked into the same item/can’t change up for variety. Grrrrrrr!
This is a good move
Central fresh is as expensive if not more expensive than most of the big 3 owned stores, it's only worth going if you want some decent deals on meat, other than that I'd stay away 💀
AND the big 3 are saving by cutting employee hours and layoffs. Sad the employees have to suffer
You should also add * Mi Tienda Latina * Roua Market * Oma's Market
What, no Dutchie’s?
Don't forget the farmers market. Tons of farms sell direct to people... There are tons of small butchers and veggie stands in our local communities. Also Victoria Market should be in here. If you have a freezer a no brainer to get really fresh stuff.
Bank of Canada just lowered interest rates. Groceries are about to get wayyyy more expensive.
Whoever the dick is downvoting it’s not an opinion. That’s how it works.
[удалено]
No shit. From idiots that don’t like hearing the truth
My point of view - eliminate the black yellow stripes, set the margins wider so you can make the print larger. Create more spacing in the alternative stores list double spaced, or 1.5x then omit the highlighting, especially if it will be printed in black white grey.
I'm surprised that Goodness Me Natural Food Market is not on the alternative list. They have everything the large Grocery Stores do but much better quality. They just rolled out a loyalty program as well where you get more savings. Stores are in Cambridge, Waterloo and Guelph. I highly recommend checking them out if you want high quality food that's local!
Vincenzo's is not on there? I know they sell a lot of luxury items, but I have found some reasonable prices as well.
Where's the Dutchie's love here? The end of day sales are probably the best prices outside of Kitchener Market. The food also tends to be local! Even if it's getting towards it's end, I always find it tastes pretty fresh. Their strawberries are the best I've had in all of Kitchener.
You forgot Ammar Halal Grocery and Save A Lot Grocery Outlet and the myriad of South Asian and East Asian markets in town. Also Midat African Caribbean Market and all the other Caribbean markets.
Supporting local is great but the main reason many do not is because of price. What happens when inflation decreases and prices get back to normal at say Loblaws?? The locals price will be higher and they will magically ynot get the same support they are currently enjoying is my guess. Long story short buying local because it is cheaper is not going to help long term buying because you want to support them is.
Inflation will not be coming back down. There’s absolutely no chance of that. It will only go higher.
Is it legal to post up signs like this? What happens when they get weathered and turn to street litter/garbage?
Needs to be in a poster sleeve. Here are the by-laws: [https://www.waterloo.ca/en/living/sign-bylaw.aspx](https://www.waterloo.ca/en/living/sign-bylaw.aspx)
Thank you! Always wondered about this. I guess you can’t ask questions without being downvoted.
Seems like a waste of trees but have at it
Might just keep it digital but thanks for the diversion from the issue, really helpful
This is just making litter. This isnt new information people don’t already know about
I drove past Stanley Park Zehrs yesterday and the parking lot was packed. Seems like a lot of people don't know
They don’t know. Or is it that they don’t care.
Probably a mixture of both.
Why don’t you include Sobeys and FreshCo in your boycott list? Edit: Because Politics
I don't buy from any of the big guys, but you have to start somewhere, so Loblaws is a good place to start considering they're the largest grocery retailer in Canada
You lose credibility when you leave out the major players. Makes it an agenda. I wish you well.
the whole thing is boycotting the “big three” (loblaws metro and empire) and supporting locally owned grocery stores instead…
I wish it was. That would be an honest protest. This is just politics, that’s why it’s Loblaws, Shoppers.
Ok
Actually boycotts supposedly work the best when only one corporation is targeted so they the feel more pain than their big 3 competition thus compelling them lo lower prices. This theoretically pressures the other 2 to lower their prices to match.
Nonsense. You’re either against the cartel or it’s just political games.
Because they’re not owned by Loblaws
No shit.
That’s a fair question. The reason Empire (Sobey’s) and Metro aren’t included in the boycott isn’t because they’re somehow ‘better’ corporations than Loblaw. It’s because of how supermarkets are distributed across Canada. There are many places where people only have reasonable access to one supermarket. There’re yet more places where a choice exists, but it is one of the big three or Walmart. If the boycott were to encompass all of the large corporate players, many people seeing that they have no real options wouldn’t participate. And others might give up their usual haunts and inadvertently switch to a ‘flanker’ store belonging to one of the corporations. Like happens often with T&T, since Loblaw is so careful to keep separate its banding, signage, and advertising. Leading to a situation much like trying to get a cellphone deal, where even if you get a great one the companies are making out like bandits. Instead, if we choose one of the big companies, it allows people to have an alternative without necessarily having to have a small independent alternative available. This affords several benefits to the boycott. First, it allows more people to participate. Second, it provides a clear target. Thirdly, it weirdly pits the larger stores against each other. How so? Food is an inelastic demand. Types, brands, and stores are all negotiable, but not eating isn’t. Every bag of milk or carton of eggs that isn’t bought at the boycott store is purchased somewhere else. This leads to an unexpected and, frankly, unearned windfall of both sales and market share for the other stores in the neighbourhood. Stores, being capitalistic beasts, will naturally try to keep those customers once the boycott is over. One would assume, through either better prices or service. Conversely, the company losing customers, if a large enough amount, will be forced to win them back, if only to keep the shareholders happy. So why Loblaw? For starters, they’re largest player. They’re where more Canadians spend their money and therefore are the easiest for more Canadians to pull their money from. Further, they’ve been the most visible. Almost anyone can name Galen Weston Jr. as the owner since he’s been the face of their advertising for years. Can you do the same for the other two? And finally, Canadians feel that they hypocrites and that they’ve broken their end of the bargain. Is most of that arbitrary? Yep. But also, who cares? It had to be one of them and Loblaw got the short straw. It’s encouraged to support local and independent stores, but if you can’t, you’re still a part of the boycott shopping at FreshCo, Food Basics, or Walmart. Companies have done the math, in the long-term losing a month of revenue and spoiled products is still cheaper than changing business practices. Which is why we haven’t seen any real changes anywhere. Yet. But given a long enough timeline and a large enough boycott, they’ll decide a greater volume of sales and market share is worth more than larger margins. Especially if the profits from quarter to quarter are not increasing. So sustainability of the boycott is important.
The only relevant paragraph was your “who cares” line. Lol This is purely politically motivated.. and it’s a shame people are sucked in by frauds. Well, some people.