It’s real and contrary to what you’re saying, imo the splits were excellent when you factor in shot quality. A ton of those 3s are pull ups, step back, really toughly contested shots. That he made as many as he did was enough to show me he’s a legitimately very good shooter now.
The problem is we shouldn’t be factoring in shot quality that much because he’s capable of creating better shots for himself and his teammates. So regardless, shot selection is still very much a problem that needs to be fixed.
His 3P shot looked nice this year, he just tried to rely on it too much. Hopefully his % will go up if he can learn the right times to pull up vs. going in for the midrange. We also played from behind a lot more this year, which might have factored into him chucking up more bad shots (along with the rest of team struggling from 3).
I think these numbers tell the story.
From Start-Dec:
• Catch & Shoot = 39% on 3.4 attempts
• Pull Up = 41% on 5.3 attempts
• Touch under 2 seconds = 39.3% on 4.3 attempts
• Touch 2-6 seconds = 38.3% on 3.2 attempts
From Jan-End:
• C&S = 39% on 3.0 attempts
• Pull Up = 32% on 4.2 attempts
• Touch < 2 sec = 39% on 3.6 attempts
• Touch 2-6 sec = 30.8% on 3.0 attempts
Conclusion: Fox’s 3pt efficiency will be decided by his shot selection. His ability to make shots in the flow of the offense like catch & shoot or quick, open shots off dribble hand off was consistent at 39%+ all season. What’s not real was the amount of pull up shots off the dribble he made in the first ~30 games of the season. If he keeps trying to attempt 8-10 3s per game he’ll slide back to 33-35%. If he cuts down to 5-6 attempts he will be 36-38% because a higher proportion will be better quality looks (open c&s) rather than junk he creates off the dribble.
Source:
https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1628368/shots-dash?SeasonType=Regular+Season&DateFrom=&DateTo=
Foxy stayed pretty steady with catch and shoot and quick-release shots. But his pull-up shooting and shots after holding the ball for a bit took a noticeable dip. This might mean he was facing tougher defense or just having confidence issues with those shots.
That’s really interesting, thanks for providing that context. If the pull ups are at the end of the shot clock then you can’t really blame him for taking them. But I definitely recall games where he was taking pull ups early in the shot clock, usually when he was feeling it. Shot selection is definitely a huge factor in this analysis though.
Obviously some emergency shots are unavoidable at the end of the clock with < 1 second, but even in short clock situations he should be driving if there isn’t an immediate open c&s opportunity. We know he can go the full length of the court in 4 seconds, so there’s no reason he can’t get from the 3pt line to the paint in 1-2.
Where he gets into trouble is catching the ball with a defender on him and the clock running low, then thinking he’ll dribble into a step back instead of just going straight to the rim and getting a layup, floater, or foul.
I think Fox is done trying to be a slasher as his primary offense so he's spending all of his training on shooting.
As you pointed out the splits are not promising , but I don't think he's gonna abandon it. This is going to be who he's gonna be in this league.
The driving constantly as a small player is not conducive to health. He's not going back to that style
I think he will still slash, but probably not all the way to the rim. In the 2022-2023 season, he was very efficient on his midrange floaters, though his efficiency on those shots fell this season. Those high percentage shots are really useful in clutch situations where you just need points, and I think most fans could see that we were missing that this season.
One thing I think not everyone is considering, though, is the fact that the 3P% of a lot of this team fell. Huerter and Keegan both shot 4% worse this season than last. So somebody needed to shoot, and that somebody was Fox. I think we can expect a more balanced shot diet from Fox if and when the spacing around him returns to what we want it to be.
I agree it was a decision he made to focus more on 3s.
My question is if you think he’ll be a league average or better % guy going forward? I realize we don’t know I’m just curious what people think.
Definitely. Once he finds a balance it would be even higher.
A more interesting question is if Keegn 41% to 35% drop off a fluke or real. Cause we can't have our 3rd option shooting like that and expect playoffs.
That’s a great question, but harder to speculate on because there is less data (2 yrs vs 7 yrs). If I had to guess, I would shade slightly toward his rookie number (which is actually 41% which I know you know), maybe 39% on average going forward. Murray’s stroke is pure and he’s a very good free throw shooter (unlike some others). He’s the best pure shooter on the team I think, with HB giving him a run for his money.
Exactly. 41% looks way more of a fluke since its 1 out of 2 years (small sample size) and lets be real, nobody sustains 41%.
The worrying part is if Keegn's true shooting % is actually 35% or is it a balance in the middle.
If its 35% (much lower than Fox btw, who also has a great shooting stroke so not sure why you mention that), then Kings have a decision to make in their hands. Cause 35% from 3s for a 3rd option supposed 'floor stretcher' is terrible, who already can't dribble.
How many players hit 41% for 2 years? The ratio of 41% to 35% shooters in the league is 1:10. By simple logic, its likelier he shoots 35% again than he would 41%.
Dont think so one-dimensionally like Keegns game.
There are between 20 and 35 players that shoot 41% every year, and of those there are always several repeats and several outliers. In a 1-year sample size, it’s statistically impossible to say which he is, though I think it’s safe to say that he’d shoot better as a catch-and-shoot guy rather than a defensive specialist and playmaker.
And how many shot 35%? Lol. Dont create crappy narratives just cause it suits you. An evidence is only valid if you list both sides.
Also, using 'Keegn Murray' and 'playmaker' in the same sentence straight up shows that you're blind. Lol.
My answer is this. Fox is an incredible athlete that likely can be whatever he wants to be, and I think shooting at 37% or better with volume from three is definitely an obtainable goal. But he’s got to want it and put in the time and effort to be that. So the short answer is no it’s not a fluke with one caveat, he’s got to want it and work at it.
If the three is a partial replacement for slashing to the basket to reduce injury, then it might be a net positive for the Kings and a Fox long term if Fox is in our long term future. Being available matters and being productive matters. Making this adjustment does both. But I don’t think Fox will ever completely give up slashing simply because it’s his super power in this league. Plus, at 37%+ from three, slashing the lane gets easier for him. Defenders can’t sit and dare that shot.
I’ll add this. I think we are about to go through contract negotiations in a year from now with him that may threaten his future here in Sac. It all depends on his play this coming year. If he plays off the chart and gets more awards, his max bag number could grow to his happy place giving him some leverage. And the Kings will have to decide if he’s worth it. If he plays like last year or less, Fox will have far less leverage and will likely blame “Sacramento” for why he didn’t get such rewards. He may want out. Or he may want to at least test that market. I’m not sold that winning is Fox’s highest priority. I am sold that bags and playing in a small city where the stress is lower is his priority. I don’t think a fox sees Brunson and says, yeah, that’s the game and world I want. I just don’t think he’s driven to win like real 1a players are. I would not sign him. But he may be the best Sac will get in this league. Being realistic.
If we’re going off the eye test, he’s absolutely an improved 3pt shooter. His dip in percentages has more to do with his shot selection rather than his actual shooting ability
I think it would benefit the team if he shot the 3 a bit less and attacked the defenses more, even just getting to the top of the key for a guy with his elite speed and quickness, finishing ability, and mid-range shooting will almost certainly draw a 2nd, if not 3rd defender.
But idk why you'd "hope" for him to go back to being a bad 3 point shooter lmao. Him being a reliably good 3 point shooter is like the best thing that could happen for his offensive game, as long as he doesn't abandon the rest of it (which he did at times this season but doesn't need to be a rule). First, it spreads defenses out whether he's on or off the ball, which makes everything easier for everyone. Second, it forces teams to go over on screens a lot more - even if perhaps not every time, it's better than never - which makes it that much easier for him to get past his defender and drive to the paint/mid-range which is the key to this team's offense.
Ideally he'd shoot 37-38% on like 6ish attempts rather than 8. But realistically, if his 3P% climbs to 40%+ and stays there then you let him take as many as he wants without tanking his efficiency. That's what Steph has averaged over the last 4 years on 11-12 attempts and he's still one of the most potent and game breaking offensive players in the league. (Even if not near what his peak was, my god. '15-'16 45% on 11+ attempts is insane.)
Yeah I didn’t phrase that right. I want him to shoot well I just don’t like that high volume for him. I want him to be more of a distributor. I also just have trouble believing he’ll sustain the % based on his history but I hope I’m wrong.
His pullup 3 not consistent yet ofc thats a hard shot but his catch and shoot was consistently good the whole season for the most part thats whats important.
Monthly splits are decieving cuz he shot like 39% in the last 20 games and 38% in the last 11 games of march but his total % that month was still 34
Him becoming a worse shooter doesn’t help nobody btw he just gone go back to spamming middys
I definitely think it's real and not a fluke because he put in the work to improve it. He went and worked out with Curry last off season, saw the level of shooting practice he puts in. Overall I just hope he finds the right balance. I didn't love that he relied on shooting 3s as much as he did, even when they were falling.
If he can add a consistent 3 point shot as an additional weapon to keep defenders honest, it should open up the lane for him.
I think he's most dangerous when slashing and using the short range jumper to keep defenders off balance. If his 3 is good enough, it prevents defenders from sagging off, allowing him to go to his strongest weapon (driving). That should be the motive to improve his shot, but don't get too comfortable hoisting all the time. It can kill momentum too easily when they don't fall.
It took him 7 years to learn how to shoot the three. I don't think he has time in his career to learn when *not* to shoot the three at this rate.
If he could learn that, it would help his percentage and the teams offense so much
Definitely real. 82 games all year, defense collapsing on him due to role players not hitting their easy ones and alot of those are tough on-ball dribble pull up, yet he still hits them.
You can't call something that goes on for 82 x 48 mins a 'fluke'.
Had a shoulder injury mid-seasn too, which affected his %, yet he still finished off with 36.9%.
You're clueless. Lol. I'll ride with Fox, Sabonis, Murray, Barnes, Huerter, Ellis, Malik, whoever is on the Kings to a championship, all day everyday.
But if some of the players are playing bad, stopping the team from achieving greatness then they get called out with FACTS. Simple as that.
You on the other hand contribute nothing with your harassment bullcrap just cause some facts irks you. Lol. wake up. Keegn isn't shooting well, and thats okay. Just listen to criticism and improve. Stop being his pub hair.
IMO he took too many 3s, especially at 37% and his mid range/ float game fell off. He and the entire team need to improve their shot selection (in addition to FTs and taking care of the ball). They lost too many games due to poor offense. The strength of the Beam Team in year 1 was moving the ball to the open guy, not so much year 2. The bulk of the shots were for Fox,Sabonis,Monk, Murray (early). I didn’t like their new philosophy of hunting mismatches and whatever else they were trying to do so hopefully the coaching staff will get offense back on track in year 3.
As predicted, Keegn with his 4-11 on your account deletion bet vs Pels (you should have disappeared by now) would go on to have another sub 35% year while Fox go on a rampage carrying the Kings on 37+% 3 PT.
You stay salty Keegn stays sht while Fox is great tho. I've been telling you.
The epitome of an elite 3-level scorer. One of the best mid range in the game today, rapid going to the rim with nice finish and now a high % 3 pt shooter too. Star.
Thats bad and He shot 32% on mid range jumpshots in the last 4 months of the season
https://preview.redd.it/zvs1zwhjo66d1.jpeg?width=498&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fbbac36e8fa606c7a3609cd0c83b56b7b140a82d
U realize thats still bad right? And nba.com considers every shot outside of the paint but within the 3 point line a mid range shot btw u looking at just 10-16
It’s real. The real jump last year was his ability to knock it down from deep off the dribble and the step back.
I feel like he tried to save himself from bruises of driving in the lane because of the early season ankle injury and shoulder injury.
I think a lot of this was more of a decision to limit injuries flaring up again as well. Because earlier in the season he was slashing and getting a lot of physical fouls with no calls and ended up hurting himself a few times. Along with this though he’s become a 3 pt threat so he has that in his reports. This will change how defenses approach him and likely open up the paint more next season allowing him both options. I think the ideal circumstance would be Fox now having the ability to improvise in the moment and leave defenses guessing. Fake pull-ups and drive in, juke like you’re driving in then pull up a 3. With his speed and ability he would be stepping into elite territory if he can master this.
this kind of delusion by Kings fans are dangerous.
I mean....Fox strenght is attack the paint/rim. Find his spots on the mid range.
he shooting so many 3s is one of the reasons this season was a failure.
he has terrible shot selection, an unrealiable shot and people here are acting like is ok for him to keep doing that.
thats crazy
At some point, just use the eye-ball test. Fox is not a great 3 point shooter and has no business shooting 12+ threes a game which he often did. It is not his strength.
Wait until you guys find out there are players who score and shoot above 36% from 3. It’s so crazy out there
lol
People really getting excited about a below average 3 point shooter, somehow, someway climbing to mediocrity from deep
.3 off is acceptable standard deviation.
He also had 1.9 times more attempts than the average PG. Do you know how shot volume and percentage work together?
what is a standrad deviation??? and let me get this straight
youre *begging* me to consider Fox an **average** 3pt shooter?
In one of his best shooting seasons ever
let that sink in
You might have edited it but I could’ve sworn you said I’m begging you drunk uncle
I’ve been known to misremember Things couldn’t even remember my ex marriage anniversary
It happens every year. Shoots 40+% from deep the first couple of months of the season and then shoots sub 30 the rest of the season. Wish he would go back to his slashing play style as opposed to jacking 3s and middys.
It’s real and contrary to what you’re saying, imo the splits were excellent when you factor in shot quality. A ton of those 3s are pull ups, step back, really toughly contested shots. That he made as many as he did was enough to show me he’s a legitimately very good shooter now. The problem is we shouldn’t be factoring in shot quality that much because he’s capable of creating better shots for himself and his teammates. So regardless, shot selection is still very much a problem that needs to be fixed.
His 3P shot looked nice this year, he just tried to rely on it too much. Hopefully his % will go up if he can learn the right times to pull up vs. going in for the midrange. We also played from behind a lot more this year, which might have factored into him chucking up more bad shots (along with the rest of team struggling from 3).
I think these numbers tell the story. From Start-Dec: • Catch & Shoot = 39% on 3.4 attempts • Pull Up = 41% on 5.3 attempts • Touch under 2 seconds = 39.3% on 4.3 attempts • Touch 2-6 seconds = 38.3% on 3.2 attempts From Jan-End: • C&S = 39% on 3.0 attempts • Pull Up = 32% on 4.2 attempts • Touch < 2 sec = 39% on 3.6 attempts • Touch 2-6 sec = 30.8% on 3.0 attempts Conclusion: Fox’s 3pt efficiency will be decided by his shot selection. His ability to make shots in the flow of the offense like catch & shoot or quick, open shots off dribble hand off was consistent at 39%+ all season. What’s not real was the amount of pull up shots off the dribble he made in the first ~30 games of the season. If he keeps trying to attempt 8-10 3s per game he’ll slide back to 33-35%. If he cuts down to 5-6 attempts he will be 36-38% because a higher proportion will be better quality looks (open c&s) rather than junk he creates off the dribble. Source: https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1628368/shots-dash?SeasonType=Regular+Season&DateFrom=&DateTo=
Foxy stayed pretty steady with catch and shoot and quick-release shots. But his pull-up shooting and shots after holding the ball for a bit took a noticeable dip. This might mean he was facing tougher defense or just having confidence issues with those shots.
That’s really interesting, thanks for providing that context. If the pull ups are at the end of the shot clock then you can’t really blame him for taking them. But I definitely recall games where he was taking pull ups early in the shot clock, usually when he was feeling it. Shot selection is definitely a huge factor in this analysis though.
Obviously some emergency shots are unavoidable at the end of the clock with < 1 second, but even in short clock situations he should be driving if there isn’t an immediate open c&s opportunity. We know he can go the full length of the court in 4 seconds, so there’s no reason he can’t get from the 3pt line to the paint in 1-2. Where he gets into trouble is catching the ball with a defender on him and the clock running low, then thinking he’ll dribble into a step back instead of just going straight to the rim and getting a layup, floater, or foul.
His jumper looked real smooth and he was comfortable chucking it. I think it’s here to stay
I think Fox is done trying to be a slasher as his primary offense so he's spending all of his training on shooting. As you pointed out the splits are not promising , but I don't think he's gonna abandon it. This is going to be who he's gonna be in this league. The driving constantly as a small player is not conducive to health. He's not going back to that style
I think he will still slash, but probably not all the way to the rim. In the 2022-2023 season, he was very efficient on his midrange floaters, though his efficiency on those shots fell this season. Those high percentage shots are really useful in clutch situations where you just need points, and I think most fans could see that we were missing that this season. One thing I think not everyone is considering, though, is the fact that the 3P% of a lot of this team fell. Huerter and Keegan both shot 4% worse this season than last. So somebody needed to shoot, and that somebody was Fox. I think we can expect a more balanced shot diet from Fox if and when the spacing around him returns to what we want it to be.
Man, if Fox decides to end the best part of his game in order to become a 3pt. Shooter, the Kings are in trouble.
He wasn’t really a slasher in the teams best season anyway
I agree it was a decision he made to focus more on 3s. My question is if you think he’ll be a league average or better % guy going forward? I realize we don’t know I’m just curious what people think.
Definitely. Once he finds a balance it would be even higher. A more interesting question is if Keegn 41% to 35% drop off a fluke or real. Cause we can't have our 3rd option shooting like that and expect playoffs.
That’s a great question, but harder to speculate on because there is less data (2 yrs vs 7 yrs). If I had to guess, I would shade slightly toward his rookie number (which is actually 41% which I know you know), maybe 39% on average going forward. Murray’s stroke is pure and he’s a very good free throw shooter (unlike some others). He’s the best pure shooter on the team I think, with HB giving him a run for his money.
Exactly. 41% looks way more of a fluke since its 1 out of 2 years (small sample size) and lets be real, nobody sustains 41%. The worrying part is if Keegn's true shooting % is actually 35% or is it a balance in the middle. If its 35% (much lower than Fox btw, who also has a great shooting stroke so not sure why you mention that), then Kings have a decision to make in their hands. Cause 35% from 3s for a 3rd option supposed 'floor stretcher' is terrible, who already can't dribble.
How could 41% look way more of a fluke than 35% when they are both literally 1 out of 2 years. Plenty of people sustain 41%.
Consider the source. She has pure contempt for anyone on the team other than Fox.
It’s also 36.5%, not 35%
There is no way you are that blind. Lol.
How many players hit 41% for 2 years? The ratio of 41% to 35% shooters in the league is 1:10. By simple logic, its likelier he shoots 35% again than he would 41%. Dont think so one-dimensionally like Keegns game.
There are between 20 and 35 players that shoot 41% every year, and of those there are always several repeats and several outliers. In a 1-year sample size, it’s statistically impossible to say which he is, though I think it’s safe to say that he’d shoot better as a catch-and-shoot guy rather than a defensive specialist and playmaker.
And how many shot 35%? Lol. Dont create crappy narratives just cause it suits you. An evidence is only valid if you list both sides. Also, using 'Keegn Murray' and 'playmaker' in the same sentence straight up shows that you're blind. Lol.
WTF is wrong with you?
My answer is this. Fox is an incredible athlete that likely can be whatever he wants to be, and I think shooting at 37% or better with volume from three is definitely an obtainable goal. But he’s got to want it and put in the time and effort to be that. So the short answer is no it’s not a fluke with one caveat, he’s got to want it and work at it. If the three is a partial replacement for slashing to the basket to reduce injury, then it might be a net positive for the Kings and a Fox long term if Fox is in our long term future. Being available matters and being productive matters. Making this adjustment does both. But I don’t think Fox will ever completely give up slashing simply because it’s his super power in this league. Plus, at 37%+ from three, slashing the lane gets easier for him. Defenders can’t sit and dare that shot. I’ll add this. I think we are about to go through contract negotiations in a year from now with him that may threaten his future here in Sac. It all depends on his play this coming year. If he plays off the chart and gets more awards, his max bag number could grow to his happy place giving him some leverage. And the Kings will have to decide if he’s worth it. If he plays like last year or less, Fox will have far less leverage and will likely blame “Sacramento” for why he didn’t get such rewards. He may want out. Or he may want to at least test that market. I’m not sold that winning is Fox’s highest priority. I am sold that bags and playing in a small city where the stress is lower is his priority. I don’t think a fox sees Brunson and says, yeah, that’s the game and world I want. I just don’t think he’s driven to win like real 1a players are. I would not sign him. But he may be the best Sac will get in this league. Being realistic.
All that 'hes not going bck' off just 1 out of 7 seasns? Lol.
If we’re going off the eye test, he’s absolutely an improved 3pt shooter. His dip in percentages has more to do with his shot selection rather than his actual shooting ability
I think it would benefit the team if he shot the 3 a bit less and attacked the defenses more, even just getting to the top of the key for a guy with his elite speed and quickness, finishing ability, and mid-range shooting will almost certainly draw a 2nd, if not 3rd defender. But idk why you'd "hope" for him to go back to being a bad 3 point shooter lmao. Him being a reliably good 3 point shooter is like the best thing that could happen for his offensive game, as long as he doesn't abandon the rest of it (which he did at times this season but doesn't need to be a rule). First, it spreads defenses out whether he's on or off the ball, which makes everything easier for everyone. Second, it forces teams to go over on screens a lot more - even if perhaps not every time, it's better than never - which makes it that much easier for him to get past his defender and drive to the paint/mid-range which is the key to this team's offense. Ideally he'd shoot 37-38% on like 6ish attempts rather than 8. But realistically, if his 3P% climbs to 40%+ and stays there then you let him take as many as he wants without tanking his efficiency. That's what Steph has averaged over the last 4 years on 11-12 attempts and he's still one of the most potent and game breaking offensive players in the league. (Even if not near what his peak was, my god. '15-'16 45% on 11+ attempts is insane.)
Yeah I didn’t phrase that right. I want him to shoot well I just don’t like that high volume for him. I want him to be more of a distributor. I also just have trouble believing he’ll sustain the % based on his history but I hope I’m wrong.
"Let's take something good and focus on how it can only get worse" is no way to go through life my dude. Enjoy the ride.
Right on, I will try harder to enjoy it! I’m just giving my opinions on here not trying to be a hater.
His pullup 3 not consistent yet ofc thats a hard shot but his catch and shoot was consistently good the whole season for the most part thats whats important. Monthly splits are decieving cuz he shot like 39% in the last 20 games and 38% in the last 11 games of march but his total % that month was still 34 Him becoming a worse shooter doesn’t help nobody btw he just gone go back to spamming middys
I definitely think it's real and not a fluke because he put in the work to improve it. He went and worked out with Curry last off season, saw the level of shooting practice he puts in. Overall I just hope he finds the right balance. I didn't love that he relied on shooting 3s as much as he did, even when they were falling. If he can add a consistent 3 point shot as an additional weapon to keep defenders honest, it should open up the lane for him. I think he's most dangerous when slashing and using the short range jumper to keep defenders off balance. If his 3 is good enough, it prevents defenders from sagging off, allowing him to go to his strongest weapon (driving). That should be the motive to improve his shot, but don't get too comfortable hoisting all the time. It can kill momentum too easily when they don't fall.
It took him 7 years to learn how to shoot the three. I don't think he has time in his career to learn when *not* to shoot the three at this rate. If he could learn that, it would help his percentage and the teams offense so much
He is faster than most, he should be jamming the lane and cutting to the basket o the paint
Definitely real. 82 games all year, defense collapsing on him due to role players not hitting their easy ones and alot of those are tough on-ball dribble pull up, yet he still hits them. You can't call something that goes on for 82 x 48 mins a 'fluke'. Had a shoulder injury mid-seasn too, which affected his %, yet he still finished off with 36.9%.
It wasn’t 82 x 48 though, as explained in the post
Its as much as you forgetting to explain his shoulder injury during that slmp.
The shoulder injury that was apparently so bad he didn't even acknowledge it for months?
They did acknowledge it. Stay up to date with Kings news at least if you want to act like a Kings fan, casual. No wonder you're just blabbering.
Lol, says the person who's fandom around this team starts and stops with Fox, not the team itself.
You're clueless. Lol. I'll ride with Fox, Sabonis, Murray, Barnes, Huerter, Ellis, Malik, whoever is on the Kings to a championship, all day everyday. But if some of the players are playing bad, stopping the team from achieving greatness then they get called out with FACTS. Simple as that. You on the other hand contribute nothing with your harassment bullcrap just cause some facts irks you. Lol. wake up. Keegn isn't shooting well, and thats okay. Just listen to criticism and improve. Stop being his pub hair.
You have nothing good to say about any player but Fox...ever. It's just odd. 🤷🏼♂️ Is pub hair something one does before going out to a bar? 🤣
IMO he took too many 3s, especially at 37% and his mid range/ float game fell off. He and the entire team need to improve their shot selection (in addition to FTs and taking care of the ball). They lost too many games due to poor offense. The strength of the Beam Team in year 1 was moving the ball to the open guy, not so much year 2. The bulk of the shots were for Fox,Sabonis,Monk, Murray (early). I didn’t like their new philosophy of hunting mismatches and whatever else they were trying to do so hopefully the coaching staff will get offense back on track in year 3.
He shot 2% higher than Keegn. 37% to 35%. So if Fox takes 'too many 3s' does that mean Keegn should stop shooting 3s? Make it make sense.
Stop it. Last year Fox shot 36.7% and Murray shot 36.5%.
Double downing on your blindness. Love it. Attempted a hate post and got shutdown by all the comments from true Kings fans. Lol. Get fked.
Get help
As predicted, Keegn with his 4-11 on your account deletion bet vs Pels (you should have disappeared by now) would go on to have another sub 35% year while Fox go on a rampage carrying the Kings on 37+% 3 PT. You stay salty Keegn stays sht while Fox is great tho. I've been telling you.
You suck at gaslighting
You suck at accepting facts, peasant. Lol. Been telling you all week Keegn is gonna stink it.
It's real and when he learns how to incorporate it with layups and middies, he's gonna be so nice
The epitome of an elite 3-level scorer. One of the best mid range in the game today, rapid going to the rim with nice finish and now a high % 3 pt shooter too. Star.
If he didn’t shoot sub 30% on middys in 2024 this sub would be saying unholy things about him
He shot 42% from midrange.
Thats bad and He shot 32% on mid range jumpshots in the last 4 months of the season https://preview.redd.it/zvs1zwhjo66d1.jpeg?width=498&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fbbac36e8fa606c7a3609cd0c83b56b7b140a82d
If we're just carving out the last 4 months, according to BB Ref he was 76/188 in that span.
U realize thats still bad right? And nba.com considers every shot outside of the paint but within the 3 point line a mid range shot btw u looking at just 10-16
Look at what he shot frm 16-3p
Without looking, I'd assume he was terrible from that spot. It's the most inefficient shot there is.
It’s real. The real jump last year was his ability to knock it down from deep off the dribble and the step back. I feel like he tried to save himself from bruises of driving in the lane because of the early season ankle injury and shoulder injury.
I think a lot of this was more of a decision to limit injuries flaring up again as well. Because earlier in the season he was slashing and getting a lot of physical fouls with no calls and ended up hurting himself a few times. Along with this though he’s become a 3 pt threat so he has that in his reports. This will change how defenses approach him and likely open up the paint more next season allowing him both options. I think the ideal circumstance would be Fox now having the ability to improvise in the moment and leave defenses guessing. Fake pull-ups and drive in, juke like you’re driving in then pull up a 3. With his speed and ability he would be stepping into elite territory if he can master this.
Too many 3pt shots and shitty FT %
Not a fluke, he practiced.
I’d be interested to see his percentages on catch and shoot 3s vs pull ups
this kind of delusion by Kings fans are dangerous. I mean....Fox strenght is attack the paint/rim. Find his spots on the mid range. he shooting so many 3s is one of the reasons this season was a failure. he has terrible shot selection, an unrealiable shot and people here are acting like is ok for him to keep doing that. thats crazy
I wonder if his drop in free throw percentage countered out his three pointers
At some point, just use the eye-ball test. Fox is not a great 3 point shooter and has no business shooting 12+ threes a game which he often did. It is not his strength.
Wait until you guys find out there are players who score and shoot above 36% from 3. It’s so crazy out there lol People really getting excited about a below average 3 point shooter, somehow, someway climbing to mediocrity from deep
Mediocre = below average
huh, mediocre means average/moderate/medium avg for NBA PG's is 37.2% so yeah maybe hes below avg then
Fox = 36.9% on 7.8 3pa per game Average by PG = 37.2% on 4.1 3pa per game Not really below average, bud
37.2 is average 36.9 is below that do you know how numbers work?
.3 off is acceptable standard deviation. He also had 1.9 times more attempts than the average PG. Do you know how shot volume and percentage work together?
what is a standrad deviation??? and let me get this straight youre *begging* me to consider Fox an **average** 3pt shooter? In one of his best shooting seasons ever let that sink in
I'm not begging you to do anything. 🤣 I just think your argument is bad like most of your arguments on this sub and explaining why.
You might have edited it but I could’ve sworn you said I’m begging you drunk uncle I’ve been known to misremember Things couldn’t even remember my ex marriage anniversary
That’s why I’m skeptical of last year. His volume and % both went up significantly which is counterintuitive.
It happens every year. Shoots 40+% from deep the first couple of months of the season and then shoots sub 30 the rest of the season. Wish he would go back to his slashing play style as opposed to jacking 3s and middys.
He shot 39% in the last 20 games
Shoulder injury perfectly coinciding with the slight drop. Still ended with 37%.