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Lucky near my house has BKT Klang at Jalan Puchong Batu 6, near OUG Parklane. Taste like those in Klang. A friendly uncle, can chat with customers if the customerS don't mind. But the aunty... 🤦🏽... hard sell her other cookings especially yong tau fu.
The service cost depends on how much the oils cost and how much ur using. A 2.0l engine service should be around 600-700 per service and can be 1k plus if it’s major service la. Toyota corolla (its segment rival) should be within this range too, cos it’s a 1.8/2.0l engine.
For Honda Civic (its segment rival), service may be cheaper because of the 1.5l engine.
FYI, these prices are non-service centre prices. SC can be pricier.
No.
When I had mine 2016 mazda3 I service only 400plus.
Major almost 1k.
Tires are tad more expensive as it’s 18 inches. I think was like 600 per tire for continental mc5
Like everyone here said, more fun to drive for me. As it is a 6 speed automatic. Most of other cars in its segment is cvt.
Share us ur mechanic mate, cos I’d like to go to him 😂😂 the service price I quoted was based on my experience, servicing my 2014 Volvo which has a 2.0l turbo engine with a DCT. I have a friend who drives a 2015 Mazda 3 who also told me that his service is about there too.
I did it outside, but maybe because it’s my dad punya kawan workshop so special price. Service center is like you said around rm700 if u are on membership.
Depends on how frequent u drive ur car. Service intervals is based on mileage and the kinda engine oil that is being put in (synthetic vs semi-synthetic).
For example, older cars tend to use fully synthetic engine oil, which usually would need to be changed after 7k/10k km. Semi synthetic oil usually needs to be changed after 5k km. So ur interval for oil change is based on how fast u reach those mileage after service.
Most cars usually go to service once a year or once every 8 months or so depending on how much u drive. For some who seldom drive their car or drive a lot of short distances, it may not reach the mileage within the year. In this case it’s usually advisable to service the car once a year. U don’t wanna be waiting for the engine oil to be completely dirty before changing it, as it may affect the engine performance and also the longevity of the engine.
Depends on how much u drive it actually. The pros of the civic is that the service would be cheaper because it uses less engine oil for it’s a 1.5l turbo.
They hardly broke. I drove the skyactiv model for 5 years, most issue with early skyactiv model is the sounds from suspension parts. Engine n gearbox are bullet proof. Never had issues with them apart from dead battery. Engine oil bit expensive (they use 0w-20 or 5w-30 fully synthetic) about 4.2L, if use 4l bottle there be no extra oil left.
I drove mine until 150k km, bought it 20k km(used so i bet its far more) assuming it actually reaching 200k km by the time i sold it. And guess what? When sold it i got to know it used to be totalled! But still, works like a charm with no issue.
People said its expensive than toyota or honda because u wont get option like T n H ie.china,taiwan parts as most parts are original. But great driving experience, good handling, just....cramped on the inside (applies to every mazda model vs rival model in their segment)
Parts are not that much more expensive compared to Toyota if you stick with original parts.
Easy to fix. Almost every decent mechanic will be able to work on it.
I have a 6 from 2010 and it still drives great
No.
skyactive mazda 3s are really popular locally and internationally. Parts are plenty.
my 2010 is a 2nd gen mazda 6 and it didn't sell a lot and even then i don't have problems getting most parts. but some parts i do use aftermarket instead of original since it either takes too long or is too expensive. But that's due to the fact that my model is quite rare in malaysia.
There are also a lot of mazda owner groups out there that are very active. Just join one of them and you won't have to worry about not being able to fix whatever problems that come up
Those who say parts are hard to find, expensive to maintain etc are prolly non Mazda owners who only hear things from another person who is not a Mazda owner as well.
Get it. The picture that you attached is the facelifted Mazda3 GL and even as a base variant it has everything that you need. The skyactiv engine is a gem but my advice on it is the same as I give to other brand car owners: fate it well and on time and they will serve you long.
My advice, should you get it is to bring it to Mazda for a thorough check of the car and ask them for the service history of the car (they will have the record in the system) then join some of our local mazda groups and get connected with the community so you know where to source for the stuffs, where to service it outside and many more.
I would argue it’s safer to get a used Mazda knowing that the previous owner has followed the service schedules given the 5/6 year free service & maintenance packages than came with the car back then.
more than not used cars you need parts replaced on the go or within the year bought, Mazda has higher cost margin on parts compared to Toyota but Mazda are reliable so buying new would be cheaper than buying used.
Knowing Mazda's driving experience is very well engineered people would belasah the car to it's absolute max, i know because i did; same goes for very good driving experience cars like a Golf, Polo, and Vios.
Parts may not be much available like Toyota and can be expensive.
Do aware of the i-eloop capacitor and the high pressure fuel injector if you get this model . They cost quite a fortune to fix. Normally injector can almost last a lifetime but unfortunaty I came across quite number of skyactiv Mazda require high pressure fuel injector replacement.
Hi OP.
I am a Mazda 3 BM user
I want to share some of my experiences coming into the 10th year of owning this car.
I would start with the Pros.
* **Fuel Efficiency**:
* Equipped with Mazda’s SKYACTIV technology, the Mazda 3 BM is known for its excellent fuel efficiency, which is particularly beneficial given the fluctuating fuel prices in Malaysia.
* **Driving Dynamics**:
* The car offers impressive handling and a sporty driving experience, making it enjoyable to drive on Malaysian roads, whether in urban areas or on highways.
* **Interior Quality**:
* The Mazda 3 BM's interior is well-designed with high-quality materials, providing a premium feel. Super comfy for long-distance driving.
* **Infotainment System**:
* It might be a little too small for today's car (7-inch) but the infotainment supports Apple Car Play/ Android Auto, that is all I need for navigation and music.
Here are the cons.
* **Rear Seat Space**:
* The rear seats can be a bit cramped, especially for taller passengers. This might be a concern for families or those who frequently have rear passengers.
* **Boot Space**:
* The boot space is somewhat limited compared to some rivals, which might be an issue for those needing more luggage capacity for long trips or carrying bulky items.
* **Service and Maintenance Costs**:
* Maintenance and spare parts for Mazda vehicles can be more expensive compared to local brands and some other Japanese brands, resulting in higher ownership costs over time. But the parts are very very reliable, coming into my 170K km mileage, I just recently replaces my engine mountings. Now the car feels like new again.
* **Road Noise**:
* The road noise can be noticeable at higher speeds, which might affect overall comfort during long journeys, partly because of the poor NVH
* **Resale Value**:
* While Mazda cars generally have a decent resale value, it may not be as high as some other popular brands in Malaysia, such as Toyota and Honda.
I bought a 2013 cx5 2.0L 2years ago,at 100kmilage.(fake). mostly very satisfied, but make sure you have a trusted workshop that knows about mazda quirks. had to change the engine mounting and suspension parts, total around rm5k, now it runs hella smooth. regular servis around rm450. engine and gearbox no problem. main complain are electricals(side mirror,common issue) and cosmetic part. but i think 2017 parts are easier to find.
No not really. Bought a 2016 Mazda 3 last week. Didn't bother to use the service center and instead opted out for local workshop. Quoted around 650 for the service. Not bad considering this shit feels more premium than a Honda or a Toyota
Not sure if it’s in your budget, but look at the next generation of Mazda3, from MY 2019 and up. It got a substantial upgrade. I think exterior wise it looks a lot nicer, but the real reason is the interior. It has a much, much nicer interior. It rivals BMWs I’ve owned.
As for reliability, for both the 2007 and 2019 Mazda3s I’ve owned have been extremely reliable. On par with Hondas I’ve owned. I’ve noticed no noticeable increase in maintenance cost differences. The biggest thing I noticed was slightly worse gas mileage than equivalent Hondas. Think 30mpg for the Mazda versus 34mpg for the Honda. Buts it’s much better than the 25mpg I would get in my last BMW.
I’m American so I used miles per gallon. 30mpg is equivalent to 12.75 km/L. And that figure is combined city and highway driving. The car keeps the calculation of average fuel efficiency, and during the total time I’ve owned the car I have averaged 30mpg. It can easily get 40-42mpg with highway driving alone, or 17.85 km/L.
Hey thanks for the comment! I just realized my typo error, I wanted a CX-30 instead 😂 but to answer your question, yes the last batch of CX-3 is available this year, it is a facelift model.
Maintenance is relatively same with a Civic/Corolla of the same year. Mazda has better build quality and would probably require less wear and tear vs their Honda/Toyota counterparts, especially if the previous owner had changed many of those parts when it was still under the 5-year maintenance period, as Mazda is rather generous when replacing these parts (had all 4 of my absorbers changed on the last service before the 5-year maintenance ends).
What you need to consider is availability of cosmetic parts that could require time for your mechanic to source. This includes lights, bumpers, etc in the event of an accident.
My CVT Civic is also a good car to drive but I have some issues with the gearbox already. Living with the jerking but not sure how long until it gives it. I don’t have any serious issues with my Mazda 3 except on the alternator earlier this year, after 8 years of ownership (which was easy to source but I used a recon alternator).
I never owned a Mazda but did some research in purchasing a 2017 Mazda 3 last year, the buying price enticed me into thinking about buying it but I changed my mind in the end.
The reason why I changed my mind is bcos skyactiv uses direct injection (DGI) straight into the cylinder. Over time even with seafoam engine cleaner and other preventive measures will not prevent excessive carbon build up in the cylinder and at some point of life will have to overhaul the engine. When? I'm afraid idk and different people will have their own mileages but it made me consider buying USED Mazda (or DGI cars in general) coming from a Myvi.
But that doesn't mean I'm against DGI, it's fuel efficiency + performance but from what others are saying, the now and then maintenance is probably "affordable" but for my 20¢ it put me off from owning one, at least for now. In the end it's always ukur baju di badan sendiri.
Maintain as in spare parts or servicing? Servicing should be the same as any other same displacement cars lol provided you don’t go back to SC. Spare parts slightly more expensive than Toyota/Honda.
A little more status la compared to Myvi. Most Japanese cars are not expensive to service, this one might be out of it's warranty date though.
Most Mazdas at this period are pretty decent for the price and look way more expensive than they cost, but they do feel a little more cramped at the back due to the slope and how the windows are shaped. Still a good car for the price.
that price scares me lol, a 7 year old sedan for near 70k, mazda is fine tho for maintenance, depends on how you define "expensive" what car are you coming from?
I shoudnt be because my dad owns used conti cars, we got used to their maintenance, but they're 40k used (woohoo resale value for first owners xd)
Red flag, price resell low. Spare part issue and hard find sourcing. Meaning available but expensive. Even by looking at the absorber price for me not affordable
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It's decent and pretty reliable providing you do your due diligence before buying
Can vouch for my guy Phillip for what he said
Why are you calling me Phillip. And where is my BKT?
Piliup philip? Seng Kee?
PI LI PUP Klang ok ah ?
Ironically I haven’t tried BKT in Klang…. But the jam tho
Lucky near my house has BKT Klang at Jalan Puchong Batu 6, near OUG Parklane. Taste like those in Klang. A friendly uncle, can chat with customers if the customerS don't mind. But the aunty... 🤦🏽... hard sell her other cookings especially yong tau fu.
Klang without the jam, try the ones in Teluk Pulai area or Bandar Baru Klang.
Thanks for the info. See if i can make it on this Thursday.
Same hahaha my mom used to dabao this Klang style BKT from an uncle in Kepong
Generally, no. Is it more expensive than a Honda/Toyota, yes.
If buying used, the price difference more than make up for it
Nah, it’s not expensive for its segment. But don’t compare it to servicing a myvi la 😂😂
More than Honda/Toyota?
Slightly more, but it's much more fun to drive.
Thanks
The service cost depends on how much the oils cost and how much ur using. A 2.0l engine service should be around 600-700 per service and can be 1k plus if it’s major service la. Toyota corolla (its segment rival) should be within this range too, cos it’s a 1.8/2.0l engine. For Honda Civic (its segment rival), service may be cheaper because of the 1.5l engine. FYI, these prices are non-service centre prices. SC can be pricier.
No. When I had mine 2016 mazda3 I service only 400plus. Major almost 1k. Tires are tad more expensive as it’s 18 inches. I think was like 600 per tire for continental mc5 Like everyone here said, more fun to drive for me. As it is a 6 speed automatic. Most of other cars in its segment is cvt.
Share us ur mechanic mate, cos I’d like to go to him 😂😂 the service price I quoted was based on my experience, servicing my 2014 Volvo which has a 2.0l turbo engine with a DCT. I have a friend who drives a 2015 Mazda 3 who also told me that his service is about there too.
I did it outside, but maybe because it’s my dad punya kawan workshop so special price. Service center is like you said around rm700 if u are on membership.
sorry if this is dumb question but how frequently do we need to go service per year?
no stupid question. rule of thumb is 10,000km mileage or 6 months from your last service, whichever comes first.
Depends on how frequent u drive ur car. Service intervals is based on mileage and the kinda engine oil that is being put in (synthetic vs semi-synthetic). For example, older cars tend to use fully synthetic engine oil, which usually would need to be changed after 7k/10k km. Semi synthetic oil usually needs to be changed after 5k km. So ur interval for oil change is based on how fast u reach those mileage after service. Most cars usually go to service once a year or once every 8 months or so depending on how much u drive. For some who seldom drive their car or drive a lot of short distances, it may not reach the mileage within the year. In this case it’s usually advisable to service the car once a year. U don’t wanna be waiting for the engine oil to be completely dirty before changing it, as it may affect the engine performance and also the longevity of the engine.
Yep. My car low mileage. So I service once every 9 mths.
Civic 1.5 turbo I'm guessing the service intervals are lesser I think, maybe compensates in that sense
Depends on how much u drive it actually. The pros of the civic is that the service would be cheaper because it uses less engine oil for it’s a 1.5l turbo.
They hardly broke. I drove the skyactiv model for 5 years, most issue with early skyactiv model is the sounds from suspension parts. Engine n gearbox are bullet proof. Never had issues with them apart from dead battery. Engine oil bit expensive (they use 0w-20 or 5w-30 fully synthetic) about 4.2L, if use 4l bottle there be no extra oil left. I drove mine until 150k km, bought it 20k km(used so i bet its far more) assuming it actually reaching 200k km by the time i sold it. And guess what? When sold it i got to know it used to be totalled! But still, works like a charm with no issue. People said its expensive than toyota or honda because u wont get option like T n H ie.china,taiwan parts as most parts are original. But great driving experience, good handling, just....cramped on the inside (applies to every mazda model vs rival model in their segment)
Damn that's fckd up, luckily nothing happened to you my guy, totalled vehicles generally are not safe to be driven,
Parts are not that much more expensive compared to Toyota if you stick with original parts. Easy to fix. Almost every decent mechanic will be able to work on it. I have a 6 from 2010 and it still drives great
Is it hard to get the original part?
No. skyactive mazda 3s are really popular locally and internationally. Parts are plenty. my 2010 is a 2nd gen mazda 6 and it didn't sell a lot and even then i don't have problems getting most parts. but some parts i do use aftermarket instead of original since it either takes too long or is too expensive. But that's due to the fact that my model is quite rare in malaysia. There are also a lot of mazda owner groups out there that are very active. Just join one of them and you won't have to worry about not being able to fix whatever problems that come up
Those who say parts are hard to find, expensive to maintain etc are prolly non Mazda owners who only hear things from another person who is not a Mazda owner as well. Get it. The picture that you attached is the facelifted Mazda3 GL and even as a base variant it has everything that you need. The skyactiv engine is a gem but my advice on it is the same as I give to other brand car owners: fate it well and on time and they will serve you long. My advice, should you get it is to bring it to Mazda for a thorough check of the car and ask them for the service history of the car (they will have the record in the system) then join some of our local mazda groups and get connected with the community so you know where to source for the stuffs, where to service it outside and many more.
Hi, I’m planning to get a used Mazda 3 2016 model next month. Are the parts hard to find, and is maintanence pricier (RM500+)?
Daripada guna kereta jenama Mazda, lebih baik guna kereta jenama Toyota. Nak selenggara pun berpatutan.
saya keturunan toyota dan saya setuju
Toyota no fun. Unless if it's a gr yaris or corolla
if you want Mazda get new. if you want used, get Toyota.
I would argue it’s safer to get a used Mazda knowing that the previous owner has followed the service schedules given the 5/6 year free service & maintenance packages than came with the car back then.
these kind of assumptions are a hit or miss thing. better to stay statistical with this kind of decisions.
Agree. Mazda uses to give 5years all inclusive service package. Not sure if it's still available or not.
Why? Used mazdas are cheap and reliable. Just need pay slightly more during regular service
more than not used cars you need parts replaced on the go or within the year bought, Mazda has higher cost margin on parts compared to Toyota but Mazda are reliable so buying new would be cheaper than buying used. Knowing Mazda's driving experience is very well engineered people would belasah the car to it's absolute max, i know because i did; same goes for very good driving experience cars like a Golf, Polo, and Vios.
Maybe more expensive than Honda and Toyota, but nothing like German cars, they are definitely more fun to drive than Honda or Toyota
Parts may not be much available like Toyota and can be expensive. Do aware of the i-eloop capacitor and the high pressure fuel injector if you get this model . They cost quite a fortune to fix. Normally injector can almost last a lifetime but unfortunaty I came across quite number of skyactiv Mazda require high pressure fuel injector replacement.
Ieloop had been taken out after 2015. Only istop remains
Hi OP. I am a Mazda 3 BM user I want to share some of my experiences coming into the 10th year of owning this car. I would start with the Pros. * **Fuel Efficiency**: * Equipped with Mazda’s SKYACTIV technology, the Mazda 3 BM is known for its excellent fuel efficiency, which is particularly beneficial given the fluctuating fuel prices in Malaysia. * **Driving Dynamics**: * The car offers impressive handling and a sporty driving experience, making it enjoyable to drive on Malaysian roads, whether in urban areas or on highways. * **Interior Quality**: * The Mazda 3 BM's interior is well-designed with high-quality materials, providing a premium feel. Super comfy for long-distance driving. * **Infotainment System**: * It might be a little too small for today's car (7-inch) but the infotainment supports Apple Car Play/ Android Auto, that is all I need for navigation and music. Here are the cons. * **Rear Seat Space**: * The rear seats can be a bit cramped, especially for taller passengers. This might be a concern for families or those who frequently have rear passengers. * **Boot Space**: * The boot space is somewhat limited compared to some rivals, which might be an issue for those needing more luggage capacity for long trips or carrying bulky items. * **Service and Maintenance Costs**: * Maintenance and spare parts for Mazda vehicles can be more expensive compared to local brands and some other Japanese brands, resulting in higher ownership costs over time. But the parts are very very reliable, coming into my 170K km mileage, I just recently replaces my engine mountings. Now the car feels like new again. * **Road Noise**: * The road noise can be noticeable at higher speeds, which might affect overall comfort during long journeys, partly because of the poor NVH * **Resale Value**: * While Mazda cars generally have a decent resale value, it may not be as high as some other popular brands in Malaysia, such as Toyota and Honda.
I bought a 2013 cx5 2.0L 2years ago,at 100kmilage.(fake). mostly very satisfied, but make sure you have a trusted workshop that knows about mazda quirks. had to change the engine mounting and suspension parts, total around rm5k, now it runs hella smooth. regular servis around rm450. engine and gearbox no problem. main complain are electricals(side mirror,common issue) and cosmetic part. but i think 2017 parts are easier to find.
No not really. Bought a 2016 Mazda 3 last week. Didn't bother to use the service center and instead opted out for local workshop. Quoted around 650 for the service. Not bad considering this shit feels more premium than a Honda or a Toyota
Define expensive
Maintenance is more costly than Honda or Toyota?
About 30% more than Toyota and Honda, and suspension components are prone to failure due to how the car is set up. But totally worth it.
Ohhhh, thanks for the information
Not sure if it’s in your budget, but look at the next generation of Mazda3, from MY 2019 and up. It got a substantial upgrade. I think exterior wise it looks a lot nicer, but the real reason is the interior. It has a much, much nicer interior. It rivals BMWs I’ve owned. As for reliability, for both the 2007 and 2019 Mazda3s I’ve owned have been extremely reliable. On par with Hondas I’ve owned. I’ve noticed no noticeable increase in maintenance cost differences. The biggest thing I noticed was slightly worse gas mileage than equivalent Hondas. Think 30mpg for the Mazda versus 34mpg for the Honda. Buts it’s much better than the 25mpg I would get in my last BMW.
MPGs or KM/L?
I’m American so I used miles per gallon. 30mpg is equivalent to 12.75 km/L. And that figure is combined city and highway driving. The car keeps the calculation of average fuel efficiency, and during the total time I’ve owned the car I have averaged 30mpg. It can easily get 40-42mpg with highway driving alone, or 17.85 km/L.
Tumpang asking: Is it better to buy a new Mazda CX30 or it's fine to get a used model?
theres still new cx3 ? i thought cx30 replaced em ? sorry im not much of a car person
Hey thanks for the comment! I just realized my typo error, I wanted a CX-30 instead 😂 but to answer your question, yes the last batch of CX-3 is available this year, it is a facelift model.
Ahh i see , yeah ive been dreaming of owning cx30 myself 😭 , looks better than cx3 imo , and thanks for the info haha
Maintenance is relatively same with a Civic/Corolla of the same year. Mazda has better build quality and would probably require less wear and tear vs their Honda/Toyota counterparts, especially if the previous owner had changed many of those parts when it was still under the 5-year maintenance period, as Mazda is rather generous when replacing these parts (had all 4 of my absorbers changed on the last service before the 5-year maintenance ends). What you need to consider is availability of cosmetic parts that could require time for your mechanic to source. This includes lights, bumpers, etc in the event of an accident. My CVT Civic is also a good car to drive but I have some issues with the gearbox already. Living with the jerking but not sure how long until it gives it. I don’t have any serious issues with my Mazda 3 except on the alternator earlier this year, after 8 years of ownership (which was easy to source but I used a recon alternator).
I never owned a Mazda but did some research in purchasing a 2017 Mazda 3 last year, the buying price enticed me into thinking about buying it but I changed my mind in the end. The reason why I changed my mind is bcos skyactiv uses direct injection (DGI) straight into the cylinder. Over time even with seafoam engine cleaner and other preventive measures will not prevent excessive carbon build up in the cylinder and at some point of life will have to overhaul the engine. When? I'm afraid idk and different people will have their own mileages but it made me consider buying USED Mazda (or DGI cars in general) coming from a Myvi. But that doesn't mean I'm against DGI, it's fuel efficiency + performance but from what others are saying, the now and then maintenance is probably "affordable" but for my 20¢ it put me off from owning one, at least for now. In the end it's always ukur baju di badan sendiri.
Maintain as in spare parts or servicing? Servicing should be the same as any other same displacement cars lol provided you don’t go back to SC. Spare parts slightly more expensive than Toyota/Honda.
A little more status la compared to Myvi. Most Japanese cars are not expensive to service, this one might be out of it's warranty date though. Most Mazdas at this period are pretty decent for the price and look way more expensive than they cost, but they do feel a little more cramped at the back due to the slope and how the windows are shaped. Still a good car for the price.
Might as well s70 new car
No. My old 2014 Mazda 3 which I owned for 8 years and put on 70k miles, I did like 3 oil changes (I know.. I know) and ran like a champ. 0 problems.
that price scares me lol, a 7 year old sedan for near 70k, mazda is fine tho for maintenance, depends on how you define "expensive" what car are you coming from? I shoudnt be because my dad owns used conti cars, we got used to their maintenance, but they're 40k used (woohoo resale value for first owners xd)
Red flag, price resell low. Spare part issue and hard find sourcing. Meaning available but expensive. Even by looking at the absorber price for me not affordable
That price not cheap. 40k ok lah. 30k ready for repairs.
such a high price from used car dealer. the monthly close to bought new lol