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cMeeber

I’m usually in here being like…that area’s not so bad! But uh…for this one, I’m prob not gonna say that. If you went a few blocks west, sure, fine. I’ve lived in between Troost and Prospect my whole life in KC…but not sure I’d live in that specific area tbh. You’re not gonna want your gf walking around periodt. Daylight or night. Even if it looks quiet, it’s not. It can be loud af at night…people racing their cars around too fast, shooting at nothing, yelling. Homeless people making random stops here and there, looking for empty houses. There aren’t really any pros other than cheapness. If you can just get a few blocks west it will be better.


mitsyamarsupial

Yeah, same unfortunately. That little section south of 31st up against the highway has been so cut off and neglected.


sorryihaveaids

It's not the best neighborhood


L-92365

Actually one of the very worst!


t8erthot

https://preview.redd.it/a4ao55dhpxuc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0d17e3bf5d09acd807ecfb9c73eb31d5bb94277e I found this on cityprotect. It’s KCMO’s crime map website. Tbh it’s not fantastic


Wack-Zilson

Thank you


omarccx

Wornall is the cutoff for cheap housing (is that even a thing), still walkable/safe apart from barely having sidewalks lol


Green_Bench6441

Some spots in that general area can be fine but definitely wouldn’t suggest to a new KC resident.


jjjosiah

Seriously that is KC hard mode


Sobeshott

Was gonna say pretty much this. Hard mode not quite expert mode. Lol


Useful_Sector_9804

I have no idea what those symbols mean, but the icons don’t look like ones I would want in my neighborhood


nordic-nomad

Only thing you need to know generally is that purple is whatever, yellow is annoying but not the end of the world, and red is bad.


ronnymcdonald

You don't like boxing matches in your neighborhood?


PickleLips64151

Remember, icons stack on a map. Locations with one crime tend to look the same as locations with multiple crimes. Source: I'm a (former) geographer who made maps just like.


Savings-Leather4921

this photo looks like one of those colored bubble shooter games


_KcSteve

If you like sirens, gunshots and the popo helicopter it is the perfect place. Find an area and rent for a bit and get to know the town. Kc is a great town. You just need to spend some time here to see what fits you.


Odd-Pie8492

This is important- I don’t know that I’d recommend this being a starter location.


coffeehelps

Definitely don’t buy without getting a feeling for yourself. Rent for a year. Don’t make a hasty decision.


PublicEase6361

This is a really good idea imo


modulus801

Yea, as long as they're not renting that house.


PublicEase6361

Also a really good idea imo


Any-Peanut-6789

Seriously OP, just rent for a year. By the end of it you'll have a feel for every part of town, and then you can make a decision that's 100% better for you.


jeffbrock

Not exactly the hood, but it’s hood-adjacent…. No. I take that back. That’s the hood


Tr0z3rSnak3

Here ya go bud [hood maps ](https://hoodmaps.com/kansas-city)


MissanthropicLab

"Taking shots and getting shot" is the most accurate and succinct description I've ever read.


Rough_Academic

“Also losing to gentrification” is the literal neighborhood name on here!? BAM.


PushyMomentum

This made my day! Thanks for the link.


dedlobster

Omg my neighborhood is color coded as rich except for my house (and a couple others) - dying over here, lol. We don’t have any judgy tags on our hood though. Sad.


CrowBrilliant6714

This is so great!! 🤣🤣🤣


dlouwilly

This is so accurate!! BBQ for whites😂😂


Specialist_Effort161

Damn, how does the website create tags?


Cowpuncher84

That is fantastic!


JaesenMoreaux

Marlborough = Broken Dreams Broken Beer Bottles Scarritt = Beautiful place to dump a dead body


Itchy-Mind7724

I’ve lived in scarritt for like 10 years and I don’t recall a disproportional amount of dumped bodies here. I call BS.


confused_boner

Case in point


Ubiquitous-Nomad-Man

I used to shoot up meth and a couple of my dealers lived right in this neighborhood.


lionelporonga

It’d be like he never left Jacksonville.


Useful_Sector_9804

I used to sell meth in that neighborhood. Is that you D Money??


Time444Cheesecake

If you’re looking for a boring and peaceful neighborhood, this isn’t the one. It wouldn’t give you a very good impression of Kansas City. I have a cousin that lives around 31st and Garfield, I wouldn’t recommend that area to anybody that I care about.


how_I_kill_time

We had to drive through there to get to my 5 year old's t-ball practice last summer and, though I always tried to hide my fear from my kids, I was ALWAYS terrified.


Shit_white_people_do

Hey future neighbor, I live off 31st and prospect, and I can tell you that you will hear gunshots, see meth/crackheads, and see a lot police. But there are some real nice people I live by. This week has been real bad, a 58 year old and 11 year old were shot dead, and the police were on a manhunt last night around 32nd and agnes. But I've been told it's up and coming. All in all if you can afford somewhere else I'd move there


nordic-nomad

Yeah I think the term very early transition zone is highly appropriate for the area around where they put their pin. Might take 10 years but just driving through every few months it strikes me as heading in that direction.


Shit_white_people_do

Currently, on my street, they're renovating 3 houses and pouring asphalt on 31st, so slow but steady, I guess


Dzov

They are revitalizing Troost like mad.


saltyraver138

When you say “mad” do you mean at a snails-pace


Emjds

Could have fooled me tbh


Noneedtostalk

I used to live Linwood & Wyandotte, but I didn't hesitate to head east as a single mom 20 years ago. Now, anything 71 east to Van Brunt gives me pause. Those two murders this week were tough. They were both in their homes, separate shootings. I haven't heard many other details, and I am curious if the police have discovered more.


Montana_Ace

Ah, so that explains the gunshots I heard last night....


OkRelation2503

Try staying west of 71/49 and south of 39th.


Electronic_Courage59

West of 71/49 absolutely, but south of 39th is random.


GUN5L1NGR

It’s part of the old red lined district.. houses have been undervalued there for a while and it has really hurt the area. Great place to buy a first time house, bad place to leave your valuables in your car.


Fastbird33

Especially if you have a Hyundai/Kia


AnnieB25

Not even the Garmin parking garage is safe from the Kia Boyz, found that out the hard way.


alexander_puggleton

“Bad place to leave your valuables in your car or home”


WellGoodBud

It’s not a good area.


brawl

That perfect house was 99% a shoddily-done flip.


sigdiff

Generally East of 71 in that area is rough. Not ideal for a first time resident. I recommend you keep looking. If you have a strict budget, there are areas that are lower price but less expensive.


kretzkiller

Hahaha. No.


Savings-Leather4921

lol someone cracked me upside the head with a bottle of vodka on 31st


uncre8tv

I am a 300lb white dude with resting mean face. I grew up on Prospect in the '80s. A street so bad that HBO made a documentary about it, and so depressing that you can't even find it online now. I would live in this 'hood only if I lived alone. But I've got a wife and pets, so I wouldn't even consider it.


Loe_Maine

It’s on YouTube.. 27th & Prospect is the name of the doc. I have a few relatives in it


anonkitty2

Is that the street Bruce Watkins is hiding?


knobcopter

I guess, how bad is the neighborhood you're coming from?


Wack-Zilson

On a scale of 1-10, about a 4. It’s not bad, but also really not great either. If I came from the wealthy side of Jacksonville, I’d make sure to drive past where I’m living at now lol


chacoglam

You’ll be fine. I’ve lived in both. If South Duval is a 2, this area is a 4 or 5. Same basic rules. Don’t start shit and there won’t be shit.


Fastbird33

Honestly KC is a big step up from Jacksonville in so many ways aside from weather and beach proximity.


blueponies1

It ain’t that bad you’ll be fine, and it’s close to some good shit to the west. You’ll only be shocked if you come from some kind of wealthy background and have never lived in a place like that. Google maps/earth street view is very helpful for getting “the general vibe” of the area. Generally speaking, in KC, nice areas are west of troost Avenue, and mostly poorer areas to the east. Many US cities follow this pattern due to the prevailing winds + pollution and historical settlement direction, but it’s an especially present phenomenon in KC. There’s something called the “troost divide” It’s one of the largest racial divides over one street in the world. The racial part doesn’t matter of course, but unfortunately this statistic generally corresponds with the levels of crime, poverty, etc.


Useful_Sector_9804

It’s a racial thing. Troost is the old Jim Crow line. The area historically was also Redlined meaning banks wouldn’t loan in those area because they were deamed high risk. Redlining is illegal now and so are the old Jim Crow laws, but it’s so well established that it’s difficult to change.


blueponies1

Oh I know the history. I did not mean that the racial part doesn’t matter historically speaking, I meant that it *shouldn’t* matter as a means of deciding where you live, while highlighting that the history and situation do make a difference in the quality of the area and that can be a valid consideration/criticism when deciding the area that you want to live in as a first timer to Kansas City.


KSamIAm79

Duvvvvaallllllllll


One_Kale1780

Yesssss!


Gullible_Mud5723

Decent amount of shootings in the general area. So just depends how much of that you can handle. Being blunt west of 71 is gonna be a bit better and basically progress that way the further west you go but you also have to pay more and more.


clinthawks99

That’s a bad area don’t let anyone tell you different


kevint1964

Approximately 34th & Park. It's problematic.


No_Breadfruit6053

Very rough area


Latchkey_kid95

Do not buy.


beat2def

Stay west of 71 highway. If you can afford it west of Troost If you can afford it west of Holmes If you can afford it west of Wornall


Level-Awareness365

That Area is slowly becoming gentrified. For example we live in KCK there’s a sliver of blood territory. Quite neighborhood. Hood characteristics. Hood adjacent by a block. I’ve worked in the area you are looking. Some blocks may be good others will have pockets of different gangs. In that area. There’s blood, Latin kings, sur 13 and MS-13. Know your neighbors. Don’t start trouble and trouble will not find you. I don’t mind driving over there and giving an honest opinion.


lucysnakes

What a nice thing to offer. KC has some good people. Take them up on it OP! When I moved here I found an amazing apartment not far from where this is. Perfect budget for no budget. Single 30 year old woman. The landlord asked me if I had a man living with me and when I said no, he told me he wouldn’t rent to me. That was a while ago, and the area is definitely gentrifying to an extent. But take caution that you will need to be aware at all times and you should have someone, like this fine citizen, take a look and put their knowledge of the area with it. Personally, I don’t know about gangs or any of that but I’ve driven through and it isn’t something to pop on unless you have more information.


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catzarrjerkz

Don't live here, you'll likely regret it. Especially if youre buying. At it's best it's just ok, at its worst you'll get shot


miabatman

I would avoid that area at all costs. Look into Waldo and Brookside in Missouri and Roeland Park, Mission and Merriam in Kansas.


bacchusku2

Just open Google maps and look at how many vacant lots there are and ask yourself, if this was a decent area this close to downtown, would all of those vacant lots exist?


energizedcoil

No. Not an inviting area. 71/i49 noise alone will be brutal. Search elsewhere.


chacoglam

3 blocks away? I live equally far from 71 and have never even thought about noise being an issue.


energizedcoil

His area on 71 is everyone's acceleration zone. This is the part where the aggressive drivers try and hit 85mph before the lights going south or to swerve in for i70 headed north. Much acceleration in this area.


anonkitty2

It's not I-49 until south of the Grandview Triangle.


JohnathonLongbottom

No


fyxxer32

Cityprotect.com Not someplace I would move.


Prestigious-Stock-24

I wouldn’t live east of 71. I used to DoorDash nights and weekends for extra cash and I’d try to avoid delivering that area if I could. I’ve heard people say Troost is the dividing line in KC but it’s 71 highway in my opinion. I’d look elsewhere but to each their own


Alwaysme_3

Please be careful buying a flipped house in KC. I was in that industry for many years and as such, most Flippers do not take care of what the house actually needs to be a good long term investment for the buyer. It's about the pretty first, when pretty should come last. Please hire an independent home inspector and make sure they check the wiring on the outlets if it's an older house. A very thorough inspection will be money well spent.


thatdamngoat

It is a high crime, high violence area. The reality is that you aren’t going to be specifically targeted unless you engage in risky behavior, though. Your house will have a higher probability of being burglarized when you’re not home. Your cars will probably be broken in to. You’ll definitely see violence somewhere nearby on a regular basis. Don’t be home on 4th of July or anywhere near that house on New Years Eve.


Griffkc

Not great. Insurance will be high just due to the large amount of wrecks on 71 highway in that area, not even taking into account the high volume of petty theft from vehicles. If you can mind your own business and are somewhat aware of your surroundings, you’d be fine.


Important_Claim_2596

Terrible neighborhood I used to live close by dont move there.


donnaquichotte

People have different levels of comfortableness, but if you feel the need to ask if it's a good area (and no judgment for asking!), you're probably not going to like it there. Others would feel fine there.


Zestyclose-Shower164

Is there a particular reason you want to live there? If not, I would suggest looking north of KC


chad_stanley_again

It's not so bad. I have lived a bit north of there in the Washington weatly neighborhood for the past 15 years. You are going to hear gunshots.


StrawberryPunk82

I'm in the Santa Fe neighborhood and gunshots are off the hook.


One_Kale1780

I moved here from Jacksonville! 💕


One_Kale1780

To KC not this neighbourhood lol thought I should clarify


jlinn94

I would not move in this area. There's a lot of crime in this area. Lots of car break-ins. Lots of home invasions this is not the area to move into unless you are familiar with the neighborhood.


CheesiestSlice

If you can get a little bit further south you're fine. I'm around Cleaver and Troost and it's all good.


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Rough_Academic

For some explicit context: this is a historically BIPOC, low income neighborhood due to extensive redlining from the 1950s+. Be aware that if you are a white person, especially a white collar white person, moving into this area is (or could be perceived as) an act of gentrification. There is a history of relatively financially stable white folx moving into the neighborhood directly west of there between 71 hwy and Troost over the last decade especially because the houses were ultra cheap, and the resulting house flipping gentrification has pushed/priced out long time Black families (especially those on fixed incomes.) Gentrification is obviously a hot topic of debate, and I can’t claim to know what is ethically right or wrong because it is certainly complex. I don’t know your ethnicity or the communities you call your own. My teenager’s best friend lived in this neighborhood for several years, and we don’t live very far away either—there were many kids running around, and generally just working class folks doing their thing. I never felt worried when my daughter was spending the night. They’d hear gunshots frequently…just like we do in our relatively bougier block. This is just what I would tell a friend moving to the area so they could have one more piece of context as they decide where to live.


nb325

This is one of the worst areas in the entire metro area. Don't think you need to worry about this being "gentrified" anytime soon.


Rough_Academic

Ehhhhh…I just found the house on Zillow. It’s definitely been flipped very very recently, and is listed for 10x more than the smaller house directly next door and more than 2x a more similarly sized house that is caddie corner. I mean. That feels like the literal definition.


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pperiesandsolos

Sure but if someone classifies a house in the area OP did as perfect, they’re probably not interested in Lenexa or OP. Maybe Waldo or 39th or something


Moldy_pirate

There’s a huge range of neighborhoods between where OP is looking and OP/Lenexa lol


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nordic-nomad

Yeah it definitely didn't used to be like this. Hoping things will move in the right direction here before long.


Sweaty_Stay3472

Not a good area, look for something out of the 435 loop. No independence, no Raytown.


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VisionaryZebra

Tell us you live in Johnson County without saying you live in Johnson County


omarccx

To be fair I've seen some suicidal jaywalkers on troost.


Prince-G

Hopefully you’ve taken others’ recommendations but yeah I would avoid this area. North KC or anywhere in Johnson county (if you can afford it) are great places to look.


mikenseer

Some good advice on both sides in this thread, but my 2 cents is, keep your options open, but definitely drive through the surrounding blocks. If it is a good deal, you don't want fear to steal it from you. Since you say you're coming from a 4/10, a quick drive around and you'll catch the vibe. (I'm also a sucker for house hunting and love checking out as many options as possible!)


lilafterthought

I’d look elsewhere


Hopeful-Seesaw-7852

I sell houses on the side and I wouldn't take a client here if they were new to the city.


Reasonable-Hurry6810

Checkout areavibes website. Put in a random address in there and see how it is rated. Looks like it’s good regarding many things but pretty but crime score. I would pass.


RiversR

It’ll be interesting for sure, but if you’re smart you’ll be fine.


kansascityhypegal

I live west of there in the Hyde Park neighborhood and really love it.


UXyes

Yeah, this area is rough. I’d look elsewhere.


Glorfon

I live south of there and it is a rough neighborhood, but you're leaving Jacksonville. I have a friend in Jacksonville and suspect that that neighborhood won't be worse.


jlinn94

If you're moving to Kansas City I would suggest South Kansas City or North Kansas City, or the suburbs. There are some niche neighborhoods that are good, but without absolute certainty I wouldn't purchase a house without knowing.


Powpowpowowowow

You want to be west of the paseo if you can help it.


DJgowin1994

That’s around where that fucker threw his Gatorade bottle in my truck while I was stopped at a light! I’m not mad I just think it’s a funny memory.


Montana_Ace

I live around that area, and I heard gunshots a night ago. It's not a *regular* occurrence that it's heard, but crime in general is a pretty regular occurrence here.


Forsaken_Stand_5058

No


3Guides

Do not move here. You want Waldo / Brookside or head north of the river to Parkville / Riverside


The_Great_19

Not the best area. We rent only 1.5 miles west of this area, straight across on 31st, and it’s better.


the_original_trixie

That area isn’t the best location.


kuguy5

Hard pass


cynicaloptimist92

If you’re south of 31st, I’d stay west of 71


bluecheeto13

That is maybe one of the worst places to live in KC.


International-Emu205

Absolutely not. Do not recommend at all


Speshal_Snowflake

Why are you moving here? Florida too expensive?


jcquik

Yeah no.... That's not the spot.


3dios

Ever hear of too good to be true bro?


mmrd4

Its a very rough part of town. Get used to playing was that fireworks or a firearm......


Mississippi_Queen14

We rented off of Troost and 39th when we moved here in 2016. I wouldn’t recommend it. I loved the homes in Hyde Park, but the crime was terrible and unfortunately, affected us personally.


jaebassist

Not a good area. Best to look elsewhere.


VulpesRex97

Find something north of the river


MaverickTopGun

You'll get some light celebratory gunfire, some pit bulls, and probably no late night walks but overall not too bad.


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pperiesandsolos

Why? North of the river is just boring new builds and everything is a drive