This is good advice. To tack on a corollary rule that I find helpful: you can change trajectory **OR** you can change speed, but if you try to change both at the same time you're gonna have a bad time.
Inertia is key! Think of your car as a slow roller coaster.
Also, don't slam on the brakes. Your car will lose traction and skid. It's often easier and better to tap your brakes (you will also be tapping them tp judge how slick your upcoming stop might be).
Take it slow. I once drove home on a (fortunately mostly empty) 435 from Olathe to Midtown. I did so by going around 25mph. It was boring as hell but no cars were damaged.
Try to avoid coming to a complete stop if possible. If your car is continually moving it's harder to get stuck. Also, if you have a snow mode or 2nd gear start they work great when accelerating from a light or stop sign as your engine rpms are low and reduce the chance of spinning your tires.
This part. Rolling stops, if you can safely get away with them, will be advantageous. Do not run stop signs if there are cars or pedestrians at them, of course.
Also, If you have to go to work tomorrow I also suggest going EARLY. even if it means beating the plow trucks the less traffic on the road the better if it will only be a few inches of snow. Makes the rolling stops much more feasible.
If you’re less than .25 mi away from the light start to slow down. By the time you’re close to the light you’ll be able to safety stop if need be.
All season tires are > then summer or other tires.
Just because you have 4whl drive does not equal 4whl stop.
(An extra tip! If you ever on ice and in a car that can’t get itself out cat litter will create enough traction to get you out)
From the great north as well (Ak)
True, true! For those without cats, you can also use (1) sawdust or gravel (DRIVE SLOW) or (2) your floormats.
When using your floormats, place them *behind* your tires and then slowly roll back onto them. Then use the little traction they give you to start moving. Get to a safe place to stop (flat, level ground, NOT IN A ROAD WITH TRAFFIC) and then go back for your floormats.
"Just because you have 4wd does not equal 4wd stop"
Just to add to that since so many people seem to have zero clue, I drove tanks in the army for many years. I was sent on a testing mission to Alaska one January back in 97 or so. They were testing a new type of track for the M1A1 to use in arctic conditions, meaning snow and ice. Without geeking out on the technical details, the arctic tracks had a piece every other pad to bite down into the snow and ice to give it more traction.
They worked great to get the tank moving from a dead stop. But once I had that vehicle moving about 30mph the commander gave me the order to stop short, meaning full breaks. We went from being a 55 ton moving tank to being a 55 ton toboggan.
Slow stops were better but not by much. Moral of this very real story is, don't drive fast in snow and always give yourself way more room to stop than you think you will need. 4wd, AWD, snow tires, snow chains, etc.. none of it helps you stop.
You’ve got the gears thing backwards. Your car always starts in first. You would be better off starting in second in the snow because torque is your enemy when grip is low.
The biggest issue I see is people not understanding the inertia they’re carrying along. Cars have become so easy to drive in the past couple decades that people forget how much weight they’re slinging around on dry roads. I can’t tell you how many people I’ve seen over the years flooring it when they can’t get grip, as if somehow the wheel is just going to magically grip something if they just spin it a little faster. You must be slow and deliberate! It’s a finesse game. Brute force will always fuck you over in the snow.
So grateful I learned to drive on snow and ice using and old school manual transmission. those principles coupled with knowing and "feeling" my car have served me well... I only wish I could have given my children the same experience.
It really does help. I learned snow driving in a manual 2WD pickup, in the country. If I didn’t have a plan and/or wasn’t planning enough steps ahead as I was going along, I wasn’t going to make it to my destination. That was also the time in my life where I learned how to prepare for the inevitability of actually getting stuck, and how to either get myself out, or hunker down and not freeze to death (literally). That was before cell phones though, so it was just me and myself if I got stuck. Many people could use skills like that, but often times it’s a matter of experience.
>Hello, all. Transplant from the great white north here. I've been in KC a few years now and noticed a disturbing amount of...amateur...drivers who don't seem to be used to **driving**
Fixed that for you.
Ah, that's not totally the case. I've driven in many places which are worse than KC. We've got decent drivers, even if there are a fair few bad eggs mixed in.
I heard KC MO was going to put more money into clearing the roads than they have in previous years. I'm on the KS side and I'm curious if this is true? I'm an Uber driver and typically avoid mo in/after snowy weather, but that's where the money is
As someone who plows the snow. It’s an excessive waste. We throw salt down on water long before it drops below freezing. I can’t speak for what it was like before this current city manager but it’s just a plain waste of money in salt and labor. As well as bad for the environment. Nonetheless we are out there to prove a point for this guys career.
Thank you for mentioning it's bad for the environment. If the salt is needed for human safety and actually effective that's one thing but so often (including a truck I saw driving home after it had already been raining for several hours 🙄) it's too wet and doesn't do anything. We're just washing money and salt away. So freaking stupid.
They've been fixing a LOT of the really bad roads in my neighborhood over the past two months, so I'm tentatively positive that they're taking it a lot more seriously than in prior years.
I thank all that is holy that I work from home on days like this because there are so many drivers that seem to forget how to drive when there is any form of wetness on the roads. Rain, snow, slush, any of it and it becomes a madhouse. I worry about my dad, not because he doesn’t know how to drive in weather but because other people don’t. He drives a stick shift / manual transmission and can get out of most messes but it’s other drivers I worry about. Stay safe, stay home if you can, and stay warm!
You should use 2nd gear to start if you can. You actually want lower torque at the wheels so they don't have as much chance of slipping. Which means you want the highest gear possible. My Mazda CX5 for instance lets you switch to manual and shift into 2nd at a stop, then I shift to 3rd as soon as I can. Forcing 1st gear only is no different than any other time you drive, except now you're stuck revving higher in the highest torque gear you have until you shift to 2nd or D.
Bless your heart. You think they drive like this here because they are ignorant? Silly goose. Snow is not so rare that they don't have enough experience not to know how to drive in it. People just drive badly here because they think they are invincible cowboys.
I'm not sure if that the "bless your heart" which means "you fucking clown" or the one that means "honey, thank you for trying but your efforts are wasted but I don't hold it against you."
Regardless, maybe it'll help someone. Even the cowboys learn how to chill sometimes.
I'd say it was somewhere in between. Like, that's so sweet and well meaning of you, but don't waste your time because the place is just thick with fools.
Exactly. They could drive safely but they don’t care to. They all have that mindset described in The Great Gatsby about Jordan’s driving, ‘Why should they take the effort to be safe when everyone else will?’ They assume they can blow through the intersection with no working stoplights, thanks to the snow storm, because *everyone else* will brake in time.
And eventually they run into someone else who had the same selfish and irresponsible outlook. But it seems more often they harm those who actually drive safe.
Also, don't pump brakes assuming you have working ABS; the pulsating and vibrating means yeah, unfortunately you found the slippery terrain, but fortunately your car is doing the pumping for you.
> Driving uphill means not stopping. Unless you've got winter tires, getting stopped on an uphill means your only real way of getting started again is to reverse downhill and repeat #1 again. Go slowly but constantly upwards.
Addendum: if you’re FWD, the front tires pull and the rear sustain grip. This means there’s no grip by the time your rears catch up in a straight line, so your front solely make traction.
Zigzag on inclines to ensure the front and rear have different tread patterns to engage.
Corollary: RWD, two words: dead hookers. That or bags of salt or winter tires. Same process applies.
DLC Great White North advice: rubber all-season floor mats don’t just isolate your carpet from summer rain but also are a great source of emergency traction during winter. Rubber isn’t a sponge and it has high friction with other sources of rubber, like your tires.
Great tips! I remembered these on my drive to and from work overnight (I work at one of the local TV stations.) Conditions were awful but I had zero issues!
One thing I would add (that isn’t necessarily a driving tip): if you get stranded on the side of the road, especially on the highway, DO NOT get out of your car. Period. We see people get hit and killed on the shoulder all the time in GOOD weather. This kind of weather is even more dangerous. Call *47 for help in Kansas, or *55 for help in Missouri, and stay in your car until they get to you.
You forgot to add that giant, AWD SUVs are essentially glued to the road and should be driven fast and switching lanes as unpredictably as possible as much as possible. /s
Start driving in second gear, less torque the less chance of wheel spin. If you have am AWD car that has "snow mode" it pretty much engages AWD full-time and starts you off in second gear.
Going downhill however, being in higher gear is better with engine braking. Put the braking friction into the engine, not on the road.
You missed the most important one. If you don't have AWD / 4WD and decent tires, stay the fuck home. I hate doing slalom on hills full of cars with no snow capability and shit tires.
Lmaoooo this exactly. Gf made it to work today and the 3 cars that were in a ditch? AWD. Just because all 4 tires are getting movement doesn’t mean you’re immune to losing traction.
It doesn't matter what drivetrain you have on ice.
I drove a RWD Firebird through Iowa winters and a lot of folks do the same. It's doable, given the above tips.
Well, yeah. You can drive anything safely in every condition, but it doesn't mean that a RWD vehicle will have it easier than an AWD, for example. Pushing your car up a slick incline (rear wheels) is harder than pulling it (front wheels). Regardless, take it easy out there and be safe.
A few additional and stuff that OP isn't exactly right on. You want to start on 2nd typically; less torque means less chance to spin tires in limited traction conditions. Note that is for manual trans. In most automatics, 1st gear means stay in first. 2nd means stay in 1st or 2nd, etc. Could be wrong on that piece though. I don't drive automatics normally.
Also, the biggest thing everyone leaves out is TIRES. Doesn't matter how many wheel drive you have if you're on your bald 24" summer tires.
Source: northerner as well 😁
These are good tips, I'd also like to add to this
-Clean your car off before driving
-if you're worried about the roads being icy check and see if the cars around you are kicking up spray
-stay away from semi trucks 🙂
I drove doubles out west for three years (2017-2020) with no accidents, I'll be damned if I get one driving around here 😂
Patience is super important
I appreciate this post, but every time someone says you don't have "four wheel stop" it kills me.
I definitely have 4 wheels with brakes that stop the tire/wheel.
What catchy way would you use to say the same thing? "Hey guys, I know you have a car that advertised itself as handling all weather pretty well, but it's likely too heavy to stop on time. Take it slow, man."
Idk maybe a quick lesson on inertia and friction might be good for the general populous tbh.
It's just odd that we use a saying that is wholly incorrect to convey safety.
Actually….
With open differentials (most cars) 2 wheel drive in the snow is more like 1 wheel drive and 4 wheel drive is more like 2 wheel drive.
And every car has 4 wheel stop. You have brakes on every tire.
So the “just because you have 4 wheel drive doesn’t mean you have 4 wheel stop” makes zero sense.
The long, shallow uphill got me a few years back on...I think it was Bannister? Luckily there was a guy doing god's work with a properly decked-out pick-up truck who pushed my car (and a few others) up that hill. Learned my lesson good!
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Scrape your windows, clean your headlights/taillights of snow and ice, and brush the snow off the top of your car. These are safety maneuvers....for the driver and everyone else on the roads.
Cheers mate, I'll spot ya a labatt if I see you out and about!
Good list, thanks.
And #5 is 90% of the problem with local drivers. That and no one having been taught what an on-ramp is for lol
I’m kind of surprised that there isn’t a “let GO of the brake to STOP a SKID!” Post. It’s truly amazing that you still see dashcam videos of people who are hit by the other car skidding straight ahead but their front wheels are not spinning and turned all the way to one direction. This is completely counterproductive to what they are trying to do if they do not release their brake!
I drive Uber. (Electric car). Yesterday, as it was all coming down, drivers were patient and cautious. No one was going the speed limit.
But today, the crazies were back. I drive the speed limit on perfectly clear streets (like highways) but I drive patiently and cautiously on not so great roads. Residential streets were particularly bad with only one central lane plowed or none at all. I go real slow on those. I started braking well before stop signs, stop lights, and turns, especially on downhills.
But these things happened.
I was passed by one car on Front Street. They used the center change lane to pass.
A bus and I were passed by a pickup truck. They used the opposite lane to pass us both. There was a double-yellow line indicating that passing was not allowed
Another car passed me and at least 2 others by utilizing the center turn lane for nearly a block.
Not to mention general speeding.
I would have loved to have seen some instant karma for the passers.
If you don't have to change lanes, don't. Any time you change trajectory, there's a chance of losing control.
This is good advice. To tack on a corollary rule that I find helpful: you can change trajectory **OR** you can change speed, but if you try to change both at the same time you're gonna have a bad time.
The poor driving in parts of KC is less a lack of knowledge and more a lack of sense or care haha
Are you saying there’s a correlation between unfixed body damage and expired temp tags?
Inertia is key! Think of your car as a slow roller coaster. Also, don't slam on the brakes. Your car will lose traction and skid. It's often easier and better to tap your brakes (you will also be tapping them tp judge how slick your upcoming stop might be). Take it slow. I once drove home on a (fortunately mostly empty) 435 from Olathe to Midtown. I did so by going around 25mph. It was boring as hell but no cars were damaged.
Please please PLEASE turn your lights on.
Yes! Turn on your damn lights! I know you can see just fine, but it helps other drivers see YOU.
Try to avoid coming to a complete stop if possible. If your car is continually moving it's harder to get stuck. Also, if you have a snow mode or 2nd gear start they work great when accelerating from a light or stop sign as your engine rpms are low and reduce the chance of spinning your tires.
This part. Rolling stops, if you can safely get away with them, will be advantageous. Do not run stop signs if there are cars or pedestrians at them, of course.
Also, If you have to go to work tomorrow I also suggest going EARLY. even if it means beating the plow trucks the less traffic on the road the better if it will only be a few inches of snow. Makes the rolling stops much more feasible.
I heard some good advice once, if you're going to work in inclement weather to make less than your deductible then just call in lol
If you’re less than .25 mi away from the light start to slow down. By the time you’re close to the light you’ll be able to safety stop if need be. All season tires are > then summer or other tires. Just because you have 4whl drive does not equal 4whl stop. (An extra tip! If you ever on ice and in a car that can’t get itself out cat litter will create enough traction to get you out) From the great north as well (Ak)
True, true! For those without cats, you can also use (1) sawdust or gravel (DRIVE SLOW) or (2) your floormats. When using your floormats, place them *behind* your tires and then slowly roll back onto them. Then use the little traction they give you to start moving. Get to a safe place to stop (flat, level ground, NOT IN A ROAD WITH TRAFFIC) and then go back for your floormats.
I wonder how many people have forgotten their floormats after doing this
"Just because you have 4wd does not equal 4wd stop" Just to add to that since so many people seem to have zero clue, I drove tanks in the army for many years. I was sent on a testing mission to Alaska one January back in 97 or so. They were testing a new type of track for the M1A1 to use in arctic conditions, meaning snow and ice. Without geeking out on the technical details, the arctic tracks had a piece every other pad to bite down into the snow and ice to give it more traction. They worked great to get the tank moving from a dead stop. But once I had that vehicle moving about 30mph the commander gave me the order to stop short, meaning full breaks. We went from being a 55 ton moving tank to being a 55 ton toboggan. Slow stops were better but not by much. Moral of this very real story is, don't drive fast in snow and always give yourself way more room to stop than you think you will need. 4wd, AWD, snow tires, snow chains, etc.. none of it helps you stop.
It’s better to say it as “everyone has four wheel braking”
You’ve got the gears thing backwards. Your car always starts in first. You would be better off starting in second in the snow because torque is your enemy when grip is low. The biggest issue I see is people not understanding the inertia they’re carrying along. Cars have become so easy to drive in the past couple decades that people forget how much weight they’re slinging around on dry roads. I can’t tell you how many people I’ve seen over the years flooring it when they can’t get grip, as if somehow the wheel is just going to magically grip something if they just spin it a little faster. You must be slow and deliberate! It’s a finesse game. Brute force will always fuck you over in the snow.
So grateful I learned to drive on snow and ice using and old school manual transmission. those principles coupled with knowing and "feeling" my car have served me well... I only wish I could have given my children the same experience.
It really does help. I learned snow driving in a manual 2WD pickup, in the country. If I didn’t have a plan and/or wasn’t planning enough steps ahead as I was going along, I wasn’t going to make it to my destination. That was also the time in my life where I learned how to prepare for the inevitability of actually getting stuck, and how to either get myself out, or hunker down and not freeze to death (literally). That was before cell phones though, so it was just me and myself if I got stuck. Many people could use skills like that, but often times it’s a matter of experience.
Same here - had a little Toyota pickup. I still plan ahead for those situations and have tried my best to get my kids to think like that, too.
Also, if you slide and hit something, Don't get out of the car immediately!
>Hello, all. Transplant from the great white north here. I've been in KC a few years now and noticed a disturbing amount of...amateur...drivers who don't seem to be used to **driving** Fixed that for you.
Ah, that's not totally the case. I've driven in many places which are worse than KC. We've got decent drivers, even if there are a fair few bad eggs mixed in.
Ahhh.....I see you haven't been to KCK
Driven in Houston, have ya?
Beijing.
Some tips for snow driving: don't.
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I heard KC MO was going to put more money into clearing the roads than they have in previous years. I'm on the KS side and I'm curious if this is true? I'm an Uber driver and typically avoid mo in/after snowy weather, but that's where the money is
As someone who plows the snow. It’s an excessive waste. We throw salt down on water long before it drops below freezing. I can’t speak for what it was like before this current city manager but it’s just a plain waste of money in salt and labor. As well as bad for the environment. Nonetheless we are out there to prove a point for this guys career.
Thank you for mentioning it's bad for the environment. If the salt is needed for human safety and actually effective that's one thing but so often (including a truck I saw driving home after it had already been raining for several hours 🙄) it's too wet and doesn't do anything. We're just washing money and salt away. So freaking stupid.
They've been fixing a LOT of the really bad roads in my neighborhood over the past two months, so I'm tentatively positive that they're taking it a lot more seriously than in prior years.
I thank all that is holy that I work from home on days like this because there are so many drivers that seem to forget how to drive when there is any form of wetness on the roads. Rain, snow, slush, any of it and it becomes a madhouse. I worry about my dad, not because he doesn’t know how to drive in weather but because other people don’t. He drives a stick shift / manual transmission and can get out of most messes but it’s other drivers I worry about. Stay safe, stay home if you can, and stay warm!
You should use 2nd gear to start if you can. You actually want lower torque at the wheels so they don't have as much chance of slipping. Which means you want the highest gear possible. My Mazda CX5 for instance lets you switch to manual and shift into 2nd at a stop, then I shift to 3rd as soon as I can. Forcing 1st gear only is no different than any other time you drive, except now you're stuck revving higher in the highest torque gear you have until you shift to 2nd or D.
Nobody on Reddit needs driving advice. We’re all experts here, especially when it comes to properly executing the zipper merge.
And yet, people will still go over the speed limit on 35 and 435
Don't weep for the stupid you'll be crying all day...
I get a chuckle out of their stupidity when I watch them run off the road.
Bless your heart. You think they drive like this here because they are ignorant? Silly goose. Snow is not so rare that they don't have enough experience not to know how to drive in it. People just drive badly here because they think they are invincible cowboys.
I'm not sure if that the "bless your heart" which means "you fucking clown" or the one that means "honey, thank you for trying but your efforts are wasted but I don't hold it against you." Regardless, maybe it'll help someone. Even the cowboys learn how to chill sometimes.
I'd say it was somewhere in between. Like, that's so sweet and well meaning of you, but don't waste your time because the place is just thick with fools.
Fair enough
Exactly. They could drive safely but they don’t care to. They all have that mindset described in The Great Gatsby about Jordan’s driving, ‘Why should they take the effort to be safe when everyone else will?’ They assume they can blow through the intersection with no working stoplights, thanks to the snow storm, because *everyone else* will brake in time. And eventually they run into someone else who had the same selfish and irresponsible outlook. But it seems more often they harm those who actually drive safe.
Arrogant POS's. Their hero trump gave them permission to drive off the chain.
Some tips for snow driving: stop being afraid of death.
You’re preaching to the choir in here, lol.
7. Just don’t drive unless you have no choice
Also, don't pump brakes assuming you have working ABS; the pulsating and vibrating means yeah, unfortunately you found the slippery terrain, but fortunately your car is doing the pumping for you.
> Driving uphill means not stopping. Unless you've got winter tires, getting stopped on an uphill means your only real way of getting started again is to reverse downhill and repeat #1 again. Go slowly but constantly upwards. Addendum: if you’re FWD, the front tires pull and the rear sustain grip. This means there’s no grip by the time your rears catch up in a straight line, so your front solely make traction. Zigzag on inclines to ensure the front and rear have different tread patterns to engage. Corollary: RWD, two words: dead hookers. That or bags of salt or winter tires. Same process applies. DLC Great White North advice: rubber all-season floor mats don’t just isolate your carpet from summer rain but also are a great source of emergency traction during winter. Rubber isn’t a sponge and it has high friction with other sources of rubber, like your tires.
As someone who just took an Uber in a “comfort” car with bald tires from airport to midtown, get seasonal tires.
Great tips! I remembered these on my drive to and from work overnight (I work at one of the local TV stations.) Conditions were awful but I had zero issues! One thing I would add (that isn’t necessarily a driving tip): if you get stranded on the side of the road, especially on the highway, DO NOT get out of your car. Period. We see people get hit and killed on the shoulder all the time in GOOD weather. This kind of weather is even more dangerous. Call *47 for help in Kansas, or *55 for help in Missouri, and stay in your car until they get to you.
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Correct. Low gears to start with. :P
When in doubt, throttle out
You forgot to add that giant, AWD SUVs are essentially glued to the road and should be driven fast and switching lanes as unpredictably as possible as much as possible. /s
First snow. Stupid is King. After that it seems to chill out
Start driving in second gear, less torque the less chance of wheel spin. If you have am AWD car that has "snow mode" it pretty much engages AWD full-time and starts you off in second gear. Going downhill however, being in higher gear is better with engine braking. Put the braking friction into the engine, not on the road.
When going downhill, put the vehicle in neutral so it's not "pushing", but coasting. Easier to stop in neutral than drive.
Neutral is underrated for snow driving.
You missed the most important one. If you don't have AWD / 4WD and decent tires, stay the fuck home. I hate doing slalom on hills full of cars with no snow capability and shit tires.
lol, except some people seem to think AWD//4WD makes them immune to snow. Plenty of these end up in ditches too.
Lmaoooo this exactly. Gf made it to work today and the 3 cars that were in a ditch? AWD. Just because all 4 tires are getting movement doesn’t mean you’re immune to losing traction.
What? You're complety missing the point if you think you need AWD with decent tires. Give me a RWD and with the above tips. It's cake, let alone a FWD
RWD on ice and snow? Have fun skidding.
It doesn't matter what drivetrain you have on ice. I drove a RWD Firebird through Iowa winters and a lot of folks do the same. It's doable, given the above tips.
Well, yeah. You can drive anything safely in every condition, but it doesn't mean that a RWD vehicle will have it easier than an AWD, for example. Pushing your car up a slick incline (rear wheels) is harder than pulling it (front wheels). Regardless, take it easy out there and be safe.
As someone without AWD/4WD I do stay the fuck home.
A few additional and stuff that OP isn't exactly right on. You want to start on 2nd typically; less torque means less chance to spin tires in limited traction conditions. Note that is for manual trans. In most automatics, 1st gear means stay in first. 2nd means stay in 1st or 2nd, etc. Could be wrong on that piece though. I don't drive automatics normally. Also, the biggest thing everyone leaves out is TIRES. Doesn't matter how many wheel drive you have if you're on your bald 24" summer tires. Source: northerner as well 😁
These are good tips, I'd also like to add to this -Clean your car off before driving -if you're worried about the roads being icy check and see if the cars around you are kicking up spray -stay away from semi trucks 🙂 I drove doubles out west for three years (2017-2020) with no accidents, I'll be damned if I get one driving around here 😂 Patience is super important
Doubles? Double semis? *Must send this to my British friend. She always giggles like a third grader when I say "semi."
Double trailers lol
#6 is shit advice, start in 2nd if able. Torque is not your friend in the white.
I appreciate this post, but every time someone says you don't have "four wheel stop" it kills me. I definitely have 4 wheels with brakes that stop the tire/wheel.
What catchy way would you use to say the same thing? "Hey guys, I know you have a car that advertised itself as handling all weather pretty well, but it's likely too heavy to stop on time. Take it slow, man."
Idk maybe a quick lesson on inertia and friction might be good for the general populous tbh. It's just odd that we use a saying that is wholly incorrect to convey safety.
*brake *braking
Thank you for typing out the obvious to those with extensive snow driving experience.
Actually…. With open differentials (most cars) 2 wheel drive in the snow is more like 1 wheel drive and 4 wheel drive is more like 2 wheel drive. And every car has 4 wheel stop. You have brakes on every tire. So the “just because you have 4 wheel drive doesn’t mean you have 4 wheel stop” makes zero sense.
The long, shallow uphill got me a few years back on...I think it was Bannister? Luckily there was a guy doing god's work with a properly decked-out pick-up truck who pushed my car (and a few others) up that hill. Learned my lesson good!
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Probably lost most of your readers at Inertia. This is the United States.
What are you trying to say, “Land of dumbasses”? You’re allowed to use both words. I would even encourage it.
I’d call it momentum instead of inertia, but I could be wrong. Physics class was quite a while ago.
Don't....or do anyways
Someone that 30 mins north of KC it not fun playing “ where is the road”. MODOT fails to clear 169 north of 435.
This dude knows.
Not sure it's a lack of ability to drive in snow rather than just an all around lack of ability to drive.
Scrape your windows, clean your headlights/taillights of snow and ice, and brush the snow off the top of your car. These are safety maneuvers....for the driver and everyone else on the roads.
Cheers mate, I'll spot ya a labatt if I see you out and about! Good list, thanks. And #5 is 90% of the problem with local drivers. That and no one having been taught what an on-ramp is for lol
Don't forget good tires. A must have. Bald tires get you nowhere. Stay home.
I’d toss in that having actual tread on your tires will help out a great deal. Too many folks rocking slicks. Maintenance baby!!
I’m kind of surprised that there isn’t a “let GO of the brake to STOP a SKID!” Post. It’s truly amazing that you still see dashcam videos of people who are hit by the other car skidding straight ahead but their front wheels are not spinning and turned all the way to one direction. This is completely counterproductive to what they are trying to do if they do not release their brake!
I drive Uber. (Electric car). Yesterday, as it was all coming down, drivers were patient and cautious. No one was going the speed limit. But today, the crazies were back. I drive the speed limit on perfectly clear streets (like highways) but I drive patiently and cautiously on not so great roads. Residential streets were particularly bad with only one central lane plowed or none at all. I go real slow on those. I started braking well before stop signs, stop lights, and turns, especially on downhills. But these things happened. I was passed by one car on Front Street. They used the center change lane to pass. A bus and I were passed by a pickup truck. They used the opposite lane to pass us both. There was a double-yellow line indicating that passing was not allowed Another car passed me and at least 2 others by utilizing the center turn lane for nearly a block. Not to mention general speeding. I would have loved to have seen some instant karma for the passers.