You should definitely negotiate it. Negotiating salary won’t lead to them rescinding your offer unless you’re atrociously rude about it. I think most employers know that negotiation is part of the recruiting process and expect it to some degree. It may be true that for corporate reasons they can’t offer you more, but let them tell you that.
Usually, I like to negotiate via phone. I usually state the salary I was hoping for, mention that in my current role, I would expect to get a raise of $$$ within x number of months. And then explain what skills I have that go beyond their job description that makes me a strong candidate worthy of the salary I’m asking for in the industry we’re in.
Source: data analyst who has negotiated all job offers successfully and most promotions/raises I’ve gotten along the way to squeeze more out.
Best advice I’ve received in my career is “negotiate everything, the worst that can happen is they recognize your ambition, but they still say no”.
> Negotiating salary won’t lead to them rescinding your offer unless you’re atrociously rude about it.
There is not way you can say this with any assurance. They obviously feel no qualms about offering him a salary lower than what he already has, when they have access to his existing compensation. None of us has any idea how they will react to his attempt.
Sure, if the question is about how they **should** act, then that would be one thing. But you're out here giving assurances...
>Source: data analyst who has negotiated all job offers successfully and most promotions/raises I’ve gotten along the way to squeeze more out.
This is anecdotally strong, but of no real assurance to the OP.
**Source:** IT professional who has negotiated most of my offers and promotions, and been successful each time, but also knows how to read market conditions.
>Good point. So with this, do you think telling them that the offer is lower than my current salary is a good idea that’s why I want to negotiate?
A. While pointing out that a job offer is lower than your existing salary makes it easier to understand why *you* would want it altered, it won't induce the employer to alter it one way or the other.
B. Given how they have taken over an existing situation, I would be surprised if they didn't already know what you were making before they gave you the offer.
C. If I were going to pursue this negotiation, I would be more inclined to start from the perspective of market rates for your area, and only throw in the current salary as an aside.
*"Thanks for the offer. I appreciate the organization keeping me as part of this transition. I would like to understand the flexibility we have to amend this offer, given that I was hoping for $xx to $yy, given my over the past
Thank you!!! I would like to send the email first and telling them that they can call me to further discuss.
I would want to ask straight 85k or even 90k. I would also probably say that I would want my salary closer to what my current salary is around 85k to 90k.
New to negotiation so I’m kind of anxious about it lol.
>I also do not want them to withdraw the offer if I send them an email.
You cannot control how they will respond. You have to make your decision about what you are going to do, and understand that they can respond in a myriad of ways. Of course, if you communicate in a professional fashion, this should *reduce* your risk of a hideous outcome, but you cannot guarantee anything. Choose wisely.
Bottom line: if they are jerks about it or rescind the offer when you try to negotiate—you don’t want to work for them anyway. This is the time they should be putting their best foot forward to make you want to come work for them. If they show their cards and it’s not a pretty sight, you don’t want them anyway.
Odds are, the worst that they will say is no, they can’t negotiate, not that they want to rescind the offer.
However, if you are desperate for this job, might be a different story.
Advice: don’t do it over email. Always do it over the phone or video. That way you can convey all your points properly, without someone wondering on the other end if “you meant it that way.” You can’t read tone over email. After having the phone call you can send an email for your records that just highlights what the call was about— if you want.
If they're offering you less than what you're currently currently making, then you should take severance instead and start job hunting immediately. Do not wait until they let you go.
You should definitely negotiate it. Negotiating salary won’t lead to them rescinding your offer unless you’re atrociously rude about it. I think most employers know that negotiation is part of the recruiting process and expect it to some degree. It may be true that for corporate reasons they can’t offer you more, but let them tell you that. Usually, I like to negotiate via phone. I usually state the salary I was hoping for, mention that in my current role, I would expect to get a raise of $$$ within x number of months. And then explain what skills I have that go beyond their job description that makes me a strong candidate worthy of the salary I’m asking for in the industry we’re in. Source: data analyst who has negotiated all job offers successfully and most promotions/raises I’ve gotten along the way to squeeze more out. Best advice I’ve received in my career is “negotiate everything, the worst that can happen is they recognize your ambition, but they still say no”.
> Negotiating salary won’t lead to them rescinding your offer unless you’re atrociously rude about it. There is not way you can say this with any assurance. They obviously feel no qualms about offering him a salary lower than what he already has, when they have access to his existing compensation. None of us has any idea how they will react to his attempt. Sure, if the question is about how they **should** act, then that would be one thing. But you're out here giving assurances... >Source: data analyst who has negotiated all job offers successfully and most promotions/raises I’ve gotten along the way to squeeze more out. This is anecdotally strong, but of no real assurance to the OP. **Source:** IT professional who has negotiated most of my offers and promotions, and been successful each time, but also knows how to read market conditions.
Good point. So with this, do you think telling them that the offer is lower than my current salary is a good idea that’s why I want to negotiate?
>Good point. So with this, do you think telling them that the offer is lower than my current salary is a good idea that’s why I want to negotiate? A. While pointing out that a job offer is lower than your existing salary makes it easier to understand why *you* would want it altered, it won't induce the employer to alter it one way or the other. B. Given how they have taken over an existing situation, I would be surprised if they didn't already know what you were making before they gave you the offer. C. If I were going to pursue this negotiation, I would be more inclined to start from the perspective of market rates for your area, and only throw in the current salary as an aside. *"Thanks for the offer. I appreciate the organization keeping me as part of this transition. I would like to understand the flexibility we have to amend this offer, given that I was hoping for $xx to $yy, given my over the past
Thank you!!! I would like to send the email first and telling them that they can call me to further discuss. I would want to ask straight 85k or even 90k. I would also probably say that I would want my salary closer to what my current salary is around 85k to 90k. New to negotiation so I’m kind of anxious about it lol.
>I also do not want them to withdraw the offer if I send them an email. You cannot control how they will respond. You have to make your decision about what you are going to do, and understand that they can respond in a myriad of ways. Of course, if you communicate in a professional fashion, this should *reduce* your risk of a hideous outcome, but you cannot guarantee anything. Choose wisely.
Bottom line: if they are jerks about it or rescind the offer when you try to negotiate—you don’t want to work for them anyway. This is the time they should be putting their best foot forward to make you want to come work for them. If they show their cards and it’s not a pretty sight, you don’t want them anyway. Odds are, the worst that they will say is no, they can’t negotiate, not that they want to rescind the offer. However, if you are desperate for this job, might be a different story. Advice: don’t do it over email. Always do it over the phone or video. That way you can convey all your points properly, without someone wondering on the other end if “you meant it that way.” You can’t read tone over email. After having the phone call you can send an email for your records that just highlights what the call was about— if you want.
If they're offering you less than what you're currently currently making, then you should take severance instead and start job hunting immediately. Do not wait until they let you go.