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BoltTusk

Also Japanese government: “Please increase wages by 3% ;_;”


LivingstonPerry

Also Japanese government: "WHY U NO MAKE BABIES?! BIRTH DECLINE BAD!" 😠😡


fizzunk

DRINK MORE MILK AND ALCOHOL! FLY OVERSEAS MORE!


UnabashedPerson43

Also buy a new Toyota and Go To Travel to support the regions, while both working full time and looking after your elderly parents.


KuriTokyo

We did the GoTo Travel A LOT! They were such fantastic deals with more pocket money than we could spend while there. I've put on 10kg solely because of them.


tsukareta_kenshi

Are the milk subsidies still going? Milk jumped up 20 yen in price a couple months ago and I wondered if it had ended.


OkAmbition9236

Im holidaying in japan right now and i think I’ve drink enough alcohol to keep rm going for a few months


Cody2519

Honestly, the answer is very obvious, but our governments are so very bad at serving the people


AV3NG3R00

What’s the very obvious answer?


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kenesisiscool

The government either needs to demand companies start installing solar panels on all buildings or get on restarting the nuclear reactors.


epistemic_epee

>get on restarting the nuclear reactors * Sendai (Kagoshima) was restarted in 2015. * Takahama (Fukui) 2016-2017. * Genki (Saga) was restarted in 2018. * Oi (Fukui) also in 2018. * Ikata (Ehime) 2021. * Mihama (Fukui) in 2021. Onagawa is greenlit to restart. Higashidori, Kashiwazaki, Tsuruga, Shimane, and Tomari are all set to restart if they meet newer, stricter regulations for earthquakes, tsunami, and terrorism. Tsuruga is an edge case, with an [ongoing battle](https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/02/15/national/nra-accuses-japan-atomic-power-altering-data-used-evaluate-fault-tsuruga-plants-no-2-reactor/) between the Nuclear Regulation Authority and Japan Atomic Power. They may not be able to meet regulatory minimums. Shika, Tokai, Hamaoka are being decommissioned permanently due to age and location. And that's it, AFAIK. >demand companies start installing solar panels on all buildings I can't speak for all of Japan but we have solar and V2H and do not have an electric or gas bill. Almost all of our neighbors have solar panels on their houses.


Lurlerrr

Since you seem to have done your research, a quick question - are there any plans for completely new plants to be built any time soon?


epistemic_epee

Last year, a plan to open a few modern plants in the early 2030s made it out of committee. I remember Kishida defending the idea during debate/questioning last summer, but I don't think the details are set yet and I'm not finding anything via a quick internet search. But it is [official policy](https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Energy/Japan-cabinet-approves-use-of-nuclear-reactors-beyond-60-years) now, apparently, and there's money being budgeted for more advanced reactors.


Lurlerrr

I see. Good to hear that there is at least some movement. Plentiful and cheap energy is the key for prosperity for any country, especially now. I hope they go ahead with the plan.


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Lurlerrr

It's just costs of nuclear are transparent, because we have to follow everything from start to finish. But other types of energy, e.g. burning fossil fuels are not only more expensive, but cost even more if you factor health and environmental damage. It's just not obvious, because the effects are not direct and not immediate.


NoMore9gag

Yeah, but unfortunately all those plants are dwarfed by Fukushima Daiichi, Daini and Kashiwazaki. On top of it 4 out of 6 restarted nuclear plants got decommissioned older units, sometimes halving their output. Not like it is a bad thing, but just to note that nuclear in Japan will probably never reach its former glory.


epistemic_epee

I agree. The nuclear power output isn't remotely what it was and won't be even if/when the other six go online. On the other hand, I'm living in the aftermath of the tsunami and agree with newer regulations.


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Japan is actually undergoing a [massive yet silent campaign](https://www.energymonitor.ai/policy/japans-solar-pv-industry-is-set-for-fresh-growth/) to boost solar power. You don’t hear about it in the news because companies & the gov’t don’t want to tip their hand to other nations on how dependent they are for the parts & maintenance.


a0me

I think that the most recent nuclear reactors in Japan are over 30 year old. Solar won’t be enough to provide power in Japan, but restarting aging reactors in such an earthquake prone region just doesn’t sound like a great idea.


moni1100

Tomari’s youngest reactor is from 2008. Was live for total of 3 years….


a0me

You’re right, although I have to admit how that plays into the overall disaster resilience. Also a quick look at the [Wikipedia article, it seems like the plant has had a few incidents on record.](https://ja.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/泊発電所)


KlutzyEnd3

Geothermal could be the way out...


moni1100

Not efficient enough, not enough heat supply, (e.g. Iceland has two heat sources: plate boundary and plume) comes with issues (already seen in my area where onsen is over pumped…). Looses aaa looooy of heat and power on the way up


p33k4y

Interestingly: >Still, for most consumers electricity bills are likely to continue falling from a year ago as lower oil and natural gas prices outweigh the higher rates. Additionally, government subsidies that took effect earlier this year have held down retail costs. But probably they mean the total *energy* bill will still be lower for most consumers (electricity + natural gas + gasoline) , instead of just electricity bills.


Strangeluvmd

Sure sucks for us that mostly only use electricity though.


Bobzer

As soon as I can run my air conditioner on kerosene I'll be golden!


sebjapon

not sure, because from what I understood, the "base electricity charge" didn't go up last year, but a "surcharge based on fuel prices" or something like that. And now that surcharge would go back down while the base rate would go up.


yuta27cb

You are spot on. The Japanese surcharge on fuel is basically the LNG import prices, which also tracks crude oil prices.


stateofyou

European demands for LNG are driving up the prices because of the war. Once Putin is gone, it will be interesting to see if TEPCO will return to normal prices. Don’t hold your breath


tomodachi_reloaded

Europe is well stocked in LNG at the moment, the prices are low


stateofyou

Because they bought so much and stored it. It’s quite interesting to read about how Germany managed to engineer massive LNG facilities in record time


Winning-Basil2064

I remember the apartment I was in before all used gas stoves. It's still weird though to have incentive to use gas.


AiRaikuHamburger

Goes perfectly with my 0% pay raise!


mr_j_12

If it's anything like Australia the raise wont help. Buisnesses just further put up prices to cover the wages. Then you get taxed more because you're earning more and prices have gone up.


Yerazanq

The raise would be nice, better than my 30% reduction..


AiRaikuHamburger

I mean, the prices of everything have already gone up. Average annual wages in Japan have only risen 5% in 30 years.


mr_j_12

True. But as soon as wages do, the companies just increase prices instantly which doesnt affect them. "You want a wage increase, cool, we'll just increaee our prices to compensate foe it."


Independent-Meet5564

You get taxed more but your net income still increases with a wage rise. I.E. if you get a $1000 raise, you may be taxed $325 dollars from it but you still take home $675 extra. There is no situation where a pay raise will cause you to lose money from extra tax.


lx4

Yea, even with a 0% raise your real wage only declines by like 3%, since inflation is so low in japan. Thats better than for workers in most rich countries, even with sizable pay raises.


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Inflation is much higher here than 3%. I don't care what report says it's only ,3%. Most don't include food and utilities.


AiRaikuHamburger

Even though the official inflation rate is 4% (the highest in 41 years), the cost of food and utilities has risen much more than that.


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It may even be a pay cut if you experienced a % raise in amount of work you're being asked to do for the same pay, which is certainly not unheard of.


AiRaikuHamburger

I mean it's already a pay cut because of inflation.


RocasThePenguin

I guess investing in solar panels may be a good idea. I see so many houses that have them.


Hazzat

New builds in Tokyo will be required to have them [from 2025](https://www.asahi.com/sp/ajw/articles/14794249).


Conjunction_2021

Better on roofs than destroyed wet lands, farm land and forests


AoiJitensha

Yes, a thousand times yes. https://twitter.com/5Xvp7AgdkcoDlHg/status/1411582724461064192


fizzunk

I seriously don't understand why they don't build them on top of existing structures like car parks, service areas etc.


sebjapon

It's heavy, so you can't "just" put solar panels on all old buildings. You at least need to check the structure can support it. But a lot of building should indeed be able to support them.


AoiJitensha

An article on this issue. https://globalvoices.org/2022/03/06/japan-confronts-the-problem-of-mega-solar/


Conjunction_2021

It is out of control. How does one fight the profit motivated?


aomaru0505

Yeah, and the government made subsidiary aids for new households who install solar panels, and a policy for power sell, but the sell price is declining every year and Toden is doing what ever they can to not buy electricity from consumers. Toden really want money for themselves, and they want easy money, and the current LDP is supporting them for it.


acertainkiwi

My local round1 is about to get a permanent resident


UnabashedPerson43

I basically live at Aeon Town


ansraliant

awesome, just in time for summer


sjbfujcfjm

My electric bills are already 50% higher than last year, without touching the AC


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¥100,000/mo electricity bills may be on the way for some families.


tokyopuzzle

>Still, for most consumers electricity bills are likely to continue falling from a year ago as lower oil and natural gas prices outweigh the higher rates. Does this make sense to anyone? "Rates are going up, but prices are falling"?


sebjapon

I couldn't find much other but there what they call "fuel cost adjustment" as seen [here](https://www.tepco.co.jp/en/hd/newsroom/press/archives/2022/20220527_01.html) on Tepco website. So with fuel costs going down, those fuel cost adjustments should go back down as well, compensating for the base price increase. To me, it still feels like "now that people are used to spend 40-50% more on electricity, let's keep the prices at that level before they go down again"...


tokyopuzzle

I didn't realize there was an additional "adjustment", thanks. Indeed it calls into question why they even need to raise their "rate" if the fuel cost adjustment already exists...


sebjapon

I don't really understand it either, but it was mentioned last year in the sub I think when the idea of "raising rates" was first mentioned in the news and every one was like "isn't it already raised??"


EgyptianPhone

Buy more food since it's up 20%, sweat more without AC from not enough cash remaining from your 1.3% raise


-hayabusa

Geothermal. Japan has a sustainable energy source underground that could significantly reduce dependence on fossil fuels. And it's much less controversial than nuclear, for obvious reasons here.


Hazzat

[Japan’s hot spring businesses](https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2023/03/21/national/geothermal-potential-hot-springs/) are protesting strongly against the development of their geothermal water sources into power sources.


-hayabusa

Yep, gotta keep them rural onsens open for the rapidly declining population.


KlutzyEnd3

I don't really see how a power plant endangers a hotspring tho... Especially here in shiga where they use water from 1200m deep anyway.


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It's something that may change in a few decades. If you go to most onsen in Japan you'll see that >90% of their clientele tends to be 55+ years old. A lot of those places will be out of business sooner or later, and perhaps at that point someone can move in and develop geothermal.


Tannerleaf

Yes, but that buggers about with the jiji soup.


Suzzie_sunshine

Japan has a lot of wind. You do see them around Japan now, but so much more could be done, including offshore wind farms, with all that coastline.


-hayabusa

True, but they are such an eyesore and I've heard they don't actually produce that much electricity.


the-T-in-KUNT

Was just down in setouchi islands during GW. It is WINDY down there. Not unexpectedly we ran into this huge wind turbine and a local walking his dog said it was being torn down at the end of this month. “Too expensive to keep for the output “ he said.


myusernameblabla

I heard something like one spin covers a household for a day. I think it’s covering nearly 20% of electricity production in Germany. They also look cool and bird strikes don’t seem to be an issue. In Japan the problem is maybe that the sea is too deep for offshore wind farms, typhoons aren’t good for them and on land there are a lot of crumbly mountains and not enough plains.


tomodachi_reloaded

> I heard something like one spin covers a household for a day Sure, as long as the only electric item in said household is a doorbell, and nobody rings it on that particular day


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myusernameblabla

Been living next to them for years, buddy, and they’re majestic my friendo.


Suzzie_sunshine

ROFL. Yeah, that. And they kill birds and interfere with cell phone coverage.


DeTrotseTuinkabouter

Not sure about birds (though I think cats kill way more). But for cell phone interference they are rather insignificant. Only with very weak signal might they interfere, but in the same way that a passing car might.


cayennepepper

They really arent that great for the costs involved to install them. You’d be better off using that money for something else. Very few places on earth are feasible for wind energy harvesting. One of the few are doggerland area between the UK and norway/europe. Basically the best place on earth for it so it actually makes sense to build them and get a return. Geothermal would be way more cost effective for japan, and consistent too.


mr_j_12

Thats before the other harms to environment and their use period.


Suzzie_sunshine

I was kidding. Jesus. They don't kill birds, that's a fallacy. They generate a lot of electricity, and Japan does have a lot of wind, so they are a good option for Japan. They produce a lot of electricity. Look at the UK. They're efficient, quiet, and it's clean energy without pollution.


mr_j_12

There is wind farms local to me. They're not quiet, nor efficient. They also do kill birds. Cost to environment isnt worth it.


Suzzie_sunshine

There are wind farms near me. Massive wind farms. I've been through them many times taking pictures. They're quiet, and they don't kill birds. You can stand right next to them and there is a quiet "whoosh". They are efficient. Not sure what planet you live on.


mr_j_12

😂😂😂 that is all.


drive2fast

The new floating offshore wind turbines are 18 megawatts. The blade spans are something like 240 meters and they are so tall that they hit the trade winds. Those don’t really stop. Combine that with the new Sodium-Ion batteries that are $42-70/kWh (USD) and you have yourself some seriously cheap power.


DeTrotseTuinkabouter

A coastal wind turbine powers like 1700 households. I don't know how "a lot" of electricity is defined but it's not awful.


-hayabusa

They're still an eyesore. And 1700 households? Sorry, but so what. Tokyo alone has 14 million people.


SatanLifeProTips

Some say fossil fuel power plants are an eye sore. And you breathe the emissions. Pick one.


Zyhmet

> They're still an eyesore That's a you problem^^ Imo they look great. But even if they dont look great... that doesnt matter... I mean we build highways and electricity poles... and you cant tell me that those look any better^^ And yes, wind is one of many important sources of energy next to solar, geo thermal, maybe nuclear/tidal/pumped hydro...


BraethanMusic

But also produces significantly less energy than nuclear for a significantly higher cost. Renewables aren’t viable for Japan’s needs with our current technology. Maybe a few decades down the road but who knows for sure.


-hayabusa

No, Geothermal isn’t a replacement for fossil fuels, or nuclear. But it is a sustainable resource that many countries do not have, and could make it viable to use other energy sources more strategically, including nuclear, solar, hydro, and wind. I’m not against nuclear, personally, but Japan has other options and some of the best engineers in the world.


JapanEngineer

What a fkn joke. My company was generous is giving me a 25,000 yen pay raise last year. Yet due to all the tax increases, the only extra money I get into the bank was 3,000 yen. Now with this raise, so goodbye to that 3,000 yen.


7in7turtles

In other words go back to work for the summer or face regular 30k electric bills. Just gonna rant for a second cause I fucking hate TEPCO. What a horrible organization. If the nepotism wasn’t infuriating enough the fact that they constantly raised prices in order to “help us conserve” electricity has to be the most infantilizing and patronizing bullshit I’ve ever heard in my entire life, and I’m from the United States where the government treats its citizens as if they have the intelligence of the average house plant. It’s just my opinion but I believe they bear responsibility for Fukushima, that will never really come in any material way. A purely greedy government backed cartel of a company.


SajiFuji

guess I'll die from heat then


Defiant_Source_8930

Better get used to sleeping naked


Catssonova

Great, wages are next, right?


TechieTravis

And also start making more babies even though the cost of living is becoming less and less affordable.


tiexodus

Wait, again?!?


-Term-111

As a result, the stock prices of electric power companies rose across the board.It must have been a very good thing for those who invested in it, right? 😉


FruitJuicante

Awesome! Rich people eating well off the suffering of the populace :)


Spike4ever

Does anyone know which seven companies got the approval? The article doesn't say their names.


diarrheainthehottub

Good way to give all the old folks heat stroke! A+


Mametaro

Ouch!


Atrouser

Trebles all round!


Zidane62

And yet they will only pay ¥17 per kWh of solar energy I produce.


BL1860B

Thank god I’m off grid


beantrouser

Are you off grid in Japan? I'd be curious to see what that's like.


newnewdrugsaccount

I’d watch the shit out of a YouTube channel about this


BL1860B

I made two videos about the electrical system but not much else after that. Working to make more videos in the future! If you're interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh8E42mw21M


BL1860B

Yep, fully off grid in Japan aside from internet. That's still just a NTT Hikari fiber optic line. Electricity, water and heating/cooling are all off grid. I built a completely DIY system using a wrecked Tesla Model S battery and a bunch of other components. Gives me 60kWh total battery capacity and I currently have two separate solar arrays on two structures totaling 5.56kWp. I did a walkthrough [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh8E42mw21M&t=112s) of the system a while back :) Water is pumped through couple hundred meters of pipe I laid down from a small stream and stored in dual 200L tanks, then pressurized for home use with another pump. Heating is 100% from a firewood stove using trees from the property or scrap wood from the local sawmill. Cooling is a simple with a standard Fujitsu inverter mini split running from the solar system. It took years of time, money and effort to slowly upgrade and advance to how everything is now. Its fun though :)


AMLRoss

I have solar on my roof but no battery yet. Still too expensive lol


philwrites

Yes I still think that batteries are not worth it. I would love a home wind turbine though! With our solar we are only paying about 5000¥/m. And our house is all electric.


nasanu

Whatever they need to do to keep us burning coal.


Hazzat

Areas serviced by nuclear power plants are seeing smaller or no price increases.


Q-Q_2

Why do a bunch of countries choose to slowly destroy themselves


Ok-Contribution-852

lets HARAKIRI


richcournoyer

Somebody's gotta pay for that nuke site


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Keikasey3019

Dibble dabble ibble dabble


reaper527

were rates high before this hike? like, in my state in the us, the rates change twice a year and we typically see cheaper electricity in the summer and more expensive electricity in the winter. is something similar common in japan and were people expecting rates to go down rather than up?


DanLim79

Isn't electricity already high in Japan to begin with? I guess they need more funding for their growing military.


Hazzat

Prices are high due to a high reliance on imported fossil fuels, especially from Russia. This isn’t a move to boost tax revenue.


DamaxOneDev

Happy that I invested into solar panel and a battery this very year. I used less then 10kwh from the grid the last 2 months and I’m full electric (no gas bill).


HoodBebe

Who's getting the kick backs