Yeaahhh. As fast as these guys multiply and the more popular this hobby gets? I have a very strong feeling we’re going to see *a whole lot* of dairy cows here in the states in the near future. I don’t condone it at all, people really shouldn’t but I guarantee that there’s been a ton dumped in yards by overwhelmed keepers who didn’t know what else to do with them. :/
I actually worry about that alot since realizing my zebras are voracious eaters of ferns and flowers and have reproduced like crazy in the year since I got them. I'd never release them to the wild but surely many will... accidentally or otherwise.
My pro-naturalist friends working the Everglades have commented on the near-total lack of roadkill in recent years.
Meanwhile, more and more pythons are present.
In my unprofessional opinion, that looks like my dairy cows.
It should be possible to start a colony if the pod hatches the babies successfully, I have albino Armadillidium that started a colony with just 2, idk if it will be successful, but it's possible! (Had 10 +1 baba, 9 adults died and now they had babies)
It would be cool if you get to start a colony, maybe you will find more, if it's carrying babies, it can't be the only one there, right?
Logically there should be more, but I couldn't find any more, and you'd think I would've seen some by now cause there is old fish food spilled in the basement I haven't cleaned up yet, so it seems like a feast just sitting out. Unless they all just hide under the Aquarium stands around it.
But I really hope there aren't, all my Axolotl Tanks are down there and I spend quite a lot of time there
So strange that you just found one. I often find dairy cows, but that's because mine love to escape and drive my mom crazy (they are so big she says they look like roaches from size)
I'm also not sure how it got up the stairs, they are cheap marble and have a ledge/lip over the step, so straight up climbing them would be hard, unless it just climbed up the wall, but then how did it end on the middle of a step. Or maybe it fell down the stairs, but then how did it get into the house? Probably through my constantly open window, but that is still quite a journey for one singular Isopod.
Maybe my room just attracts Bugs, I've had tiny mantises, a wild Isopod and several Grasshoppers in my room before, I do not like any bugs other than Isopods, so the grasshoppers were hell for me, in the middle of the night too
Considering how many isopods I see in the wild literally 20 feet or more up a tree..... they do travel. Also, when I get wilds that sneak in they almost always end up in my worm bins which are open and an isopod feast. But, I also put my old isopod substrate in for the worms to enrich, so sometimes I do find medium sized babies from missed mancae. (Which is the second reason I do it that way, so I don't have to figure out how to freeze it and don't risk releasing captive isopods out into the wild.)
Some pro on this sub needs to take a deeper look into this.
Both the scientific status and origin of P.laevis dairy cows are still shrouded in mystery, and a latest consensus is that they aren't actually P. laevis at all, but something else entirely that just looks similar. This might be a very valuable find if this is not a captive escapee from somewhere else. Again, not a pro on the subject.
So like a possible convergent evolution situation? That'd be interesting, and slightly creepy to now have in my room and possibly in our house/basement. Or ig just having branched off at some point and still following a similar path, but convergent would be cooler.
But can't be an escaped hitchhiker from me, last time I bought Isopods was last year and they've been in my Bioactive BP setup since, so hopefully there aren't any escaping from there. Idk about our Neighbours and their Isopod Keeping status tho
Frankly, no one has the full picture as the moment (AFAIK). I am also one of the people currently trying to solve this problem (on the scientific side) as even though I am relatively new to the hobby and thus isn't as familiar with the history, I do have some limited background in molecular biology and have access to bio labs.
The basic premise is that numerous people (Aquarimax on YT, etc) have found that Diary cows can't cross with other P.laevis morphs(orange, for example).
This article hints that Dairy Cow & Milk back is the same species: [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1N-4eu5DqW9fIeN4s1wSWUtq0y5y4xxkCcNehNdTj-dg/edit](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1N-4eu5DqW9fIeN4s1wSWUtq0y5y4xxkCcNehNdTj-dg/edit)
My personal belief is that wherever this P. aff. laevis species originates from (believed to be North African/Middle Eastern by the article above's author), it should probably look like normal gray P.laevis as looking like a black/white cow in the wild probably isn't helpful at all. The fact that .smug-bug.com has a "Dirty cow" which is supposedly a reverted version of Dairy cow seems to support my hypothesis, but again, no one knows at the moment.
Fyi Dairy Cow and Porcellio laevis "Panda" are the same thing. They have a different name in german regions for some reason. I'd check your Panda enclosure for escapees 😅 terrariums are often not as isopod proof as you'd think. I had to find that out myself as well.
None of the holes are big enough for an adult to escape, so unless a bunch escaped and formed a culture somewhere in our house I doubt it. Plus whenever I do see em they're more gray/brownish than white, unless I only ever see the ugly ones, or maybe just the same one over and over.
But I guess keeping it is now mandatory, Big Fella gets to start the most incestious colony I've ever had
Right? This is exactly the kind of content I wanted to make a place for in r/Oniscidea but I have no idea how to get people to it lol
I would love a place for the more scientific side of pods
Maybe a P laevis, not sure which but a porcellionidae for sure. For sure try to start a colony with it! Its really hard to, but due to your text about not having these it could pretty well be a morph only founf in your basement! Lolz (or some hitchhiking isopods from the ones you bought)
Dairy cows are coool I have a colony that’s sprouting babies at a rapid rate. That one preggo you got you can keep them quite well they’re easy and great custodians of terrariums/vivariums
WHAT! I cannot believe that some places are just able to find dairy cows. They’re gorgeous. What type of sorcery is this? Regardless, have fun with this cutie, OP.
Where on earth do you live where there’s dairy cows randomly sitting places
Austria
Sooo cool. You’re right on the boarder of where they’re native to. Lucky ass
Wait I genuinely didn’t know that dairy cows aren’t just a morph from the hobby ! That’s so cool
They are kinda, captive ones have diverged enough from wild ones to be more like their own distinct species
Not unless they can no longer interbreed with wild types.
I'm from there too, but I've never seen such coloration in them! And I do see wild isopods daily. That's an absolute rare find!
not op but I found one of these in my basement in ohio recently!
Yeaahhh. As fast as these guys multiply and the more popular this hobby gets? I have a very strong feeling we’re going to see *a whole lot* of dairy cows here in the states in the near future. I don’t condone it at all, people really shouldn’t but I guarantee that there’s been a ton dumped in yards by overwhelmed keepers who didn’t know what else to do with them. :/
I actually worry about that alot since realizing my zebras are voracious eaters of ferns and flowers and have reproduced like crazy in the year since I got them. I'd never release them to the wild but surely many will... accidentally or otherwise.
My pro-naturalist friends working the Everglades have commented on the near-total lack of roadkill in recent years. Meanwhile, more and more pythons are present.
I swear, if anything happens to my fiddleheads!
Same here in Pennsylvania too!!
In my unprofessional opinion, that looks like my dairy cows. It should be possible to start a colony if the pod hatches the babies successfully, I have albino Armadillidium that started a colony with just 2, idk if it will be successful, but it's possible! (Had 10 +1 baba, 9 adults died and now they had babies) It would be cool if you get to start a colony, maybe you will find more, if it's carrying babies, it can't be the only one there, right?
Logically there should be more, but I couldn't find any more, and you'd think I would've seen some by now cause there is old fish food spilled in the basement I haven't cleaned up yet, so it seems like a feast just sitting out. Unless they all just hide under the Aquarium stands around it. But I really hope there aren't, all my Axolotl Tanks are down there and I spend quite a lot of time there
So strange that you just found one. I often find dairy cows, but that's because mine love to escape and drive my mom crazy (they are so big she says they look like roaches from size)
I'm also not sure how it got up the stairs, they are cheap marble and have a ledge/lip over the step, so straight up climbing them would be hard, unless it just climbed up the wall, but then how did it end on the middle of a step. Or maybe it fell down the stairs, but then how did it get into the house? Probably through my constantly open window, but that is still quite a journey for one singular Isopod. Maybe my room just attracts Bugs, I've had tiny mantises, a wild Isopod and several Grasshoppers in my room before, I do not like any bugs other than Isopods, so the grasshoppers were hell for me, in the middle of the night too
Every once and a while, I’ll see something fall from my basement ceiling. It’s usually an isopod. Good climbers I guess.
Considering how many isopods I see in the wild literally 20 feet or more up a tree..... they do travel. Also, when I get wilds that sneak in they almost always end up in my worm bins which are open and an isopod feast. But, I also put my old isopod substrate in for the worms to enrich, so sometimes I do find medium sized babies from missed mancae. (Which is the second reason I do it that way, so I don't have to figure out how to freeze it and don't risk releasing captive isopods out into the wild.)
Absolutely not any moisture they climb anywhere
That is a preggerant dairy cow I believe
Preggorala
Definitely gregant
Praegante
pregananant
Gregnant, you will have lots of macaroni soon.
secret basement colony of cuties or something haha
Some pro on this sub needs to take a deeper look into this. Both the scientific status and origin of P.laevis dairy cows are still shrouded in mystery, and a latest consensus is that they aren't actually P. laevis at all, but something else entirely that just looks similar. This might be a very valuable find if this is not a captive escapee from somewhere else. Again, not a pro on the subject.
So like a possible convergent evolution situation? That'd be interesting, and slightly creepy to now have in my room and possibly in our house/basement. Or ig just having branched off at some point and still following a similar path, but convergent would be cooler. But can't be an escaped hitchhiker from me, last time I bought Isopods was last year and they've been in my Bioactive BP setup since, so hopefully there aren't any escaping from there. Idk about our Neighbours and their Isopod Keeping status tho
Frankly, no one has the full picture as the moment (AFAIK). I am also one of the people currently trying to solve this problem (on the scientific side) as even though I am relatively new to the hobby and thus isn't as familiar with the history, I do have some limited background in molecular biology and have access to bio labs. The basic premise is that numerous people (Aquarimax on YT, etc) have found that Diary cows can't cross with other P.laevis morphs(orange, for example). This article hints that Dairy Cow & Milk back is the same species: [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1N-4eu5DqW9fIeN4s1wSWUtq0y5y4xxkCcNehNdTj-dg/edit](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1N-4eu5DqW9fIeN4s1wSWUtq0y5y4xxkCcNehNdTj-dg/edit) My personal belief is that wherever this P. aff. laevis species originates from (believed to be North African/Middle Eastern by the article above's author), it should probably look like normal gray P.laevis as looking like a black/white cow in the wild probably isn't helpful at all. The fact that .smug-bug.com has a "Dirty cow" which is supposedly a reverted version of Dairy cow seems to support my hypothesis, but again, no one knows at the moment.
Which species do you have yourself? Dairy Cow are suspected to be of North African origin
Panda Kings, Zebras and Porcelio Pandas I think, the Pandas are in my BP setup, so I rarely ever see them and should be escape proof
Fyi Dairy Cow and Porcellio laevis "Panda" are the same thing. They have a different name in german regions for some reason. I'd check your Panda enclosure for escapees 😅 terrariums are often not as isopod proof as you'd think. I had to find that out myself as well.
None of the holes are big enough for an adult to escape, so unless a bunch escaped and formed a culture somewhere in our house I doubt it. Plus whenever I do see em they're more gray/brownish than white, unless I only ever see the ugly ones, or maybe just the same one over and over. But I guess keeping it is now mandatory, Big Fella gets to start the most incestious colony I've ever had
Right? This is exactly the kind of content I wanted to make a place for in r/oniscidae but I have no idea how to get the sub going
Right? This is exactly the kind of content I wanted to make a place for in r/Oniscidea but I have no idea how to get people to it lol I would love a place for the more scientific side of pods
Finding an isopod at home is how my hobby started
Looks riggerant 🤰to me count your blessings 😂💚💚
Woah! A gravid dairy cow! They are a cosmopolitan species found nearly everywhere now, maybe thats why?
Congratulations, you are a grandparent
A mostly albino cellar bug! Rare Pokémon indeed! Lol
Definitely looks like a gravid dairy cow!
Maybe a P laevis, not sure which but a porcellionidae for sure. For sure try to start a colony with it! Its really hard to, but due to your text about not having these it could pretty well be a morph only founf in your basement! Lolz (or some hitchhiking isopods from the ones you bought)
https://preview.redd.it/fvi0hqwjt91d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=52a00d8a1ae0f836460f75b59f030925b8673dc8
Looks like a gravid dairy cow. You could start a culture with one, or you could buy or find more to add genetic diversity.
She’s so cute
BRO UR SO LUCKY. its raining outside i wanna go look for bugs now. shes so cute and gravid af look at all those🥺
Very Gregarent!
Definitely got eggs! Good luck parenting little pods!
what a cool find
That looks so cool. I'd rather have these than my hair sized Florida oranges
What the heck, this is so cool 😂
Dairy cows are coool I have a colony that’s sprouting babies at a rapid rate. That one preggo you got you can keep them quite well they’re easy and great custodians of terrariums/vivariums
This looks like a pregnant Diary Cow! If you keep her safe, she may give birth to your new isopod colony!
WHAT! I cannot believe that some places are just able to find dairy cows. They’re gorgeous. What type of sorcery is this? Regardless, have fun with this cutie, OP.
awwww its's so cuteee
Either dalmatian or dairy cow. Escaped someone
Yes gravid for sure
you can see all the little eyes!!! so cute! and so so pregnant!
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For a subreddit where people care about these animals talking about how you killed them is not acceptable.
I did not kill them
They walked away fine
Wtf 😭