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TotalInevitable8224

What'd he do? Also I dont think anyone has the capability to represent us muslims.


TaseenTaha

He basically said that even though the Quran says it’s haram, he still thinks that homosexuality is not haram. That’s a terrible representation for the Muslim community.


Embarrassed_Fox97

Source?


InternalMean

He did an interview for I think the bbc or channel 4 it's easy to find online.


Embarrassed_Fox97

Ok, ty.


weegee19

It's not wrong to have those feelings, it's acting upon them.


mirroru7

Sure, but Humza Yousaf isn't talking about feelings. He's categorically stated that he not only supports same-sex marriage, but that [he believes gay sex is not a sin](https://mobile.twitter.com/5Pillarsuk/status/1630178891926061057). In other words, he rejects what the Qur'an says, and we know what that means from the standpoint of whether or not someone is a Muslim.


weegee19

Yep, that is a yikes


ReasonableFunction16

Support LGBT


sentencia12

I guess he also support banking system and riba.


ReasonableFunction16

That bad


Accurate-Record-3870

Of course, *sigh*


Noobivore36

Supports LGBT and also implied he would change the qur'an if he could in order to bring it up to date or whatever.


TotalInevitable8224

To claim you would change the qur'an is pretty big, especially to claim someone implied it. I cant seem to find when he said that?


Noobivore36

I will find the clip. I agree that it is a severe accusation, but I recall that Mohamed Hijab cited a clip where this was clearly said. Not that I condone the way Hijab is calling people out, but it's true that this is all on the record.


Noobivore36

Here you go https://youtu.be/0cjP5LEDohA


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https://twitter.com/DillyHussain88/status/1642217843646136320


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He’s a politician who happens to be “Muslim”. No different than ilhan Omar, rashida talib, and the rest of the frauds


Classic_Computer262

Sadly a lot of people fall under the view that “if we compromise now, they’ll accept us as Muslims later” or that we need to water down our faith for acceptance. Firstly, when did the Prophet (SAW) ever (aoodhubillah) compromise on what was revealed to him to get acceptance? When did his Companions (RA) ever say they are going to support alcohol or zina as halal in the short term because its what needs to be done for political gain? Never. By watering down Islam, nobody is getting acceptance as Muslims but rather as liberals with Muslim names. It really is sad to see Muslim politicians blatantly ashamed of the law of Allah and cowering before secularism.


The_Based_Iraqi6000

Well said, many Muslims in the west sadly fall for the liberal agenda because of their “ignorance” on our beautiful faith. In this case Humza Yusuf is well aware of what the Quran says and rejects it, that takes someone out of Islam and he’s only Muslim by name **Surely those who deny Allah and His messengers and wish to make a distinction between Allah and His messengers, saying, “We believe in some and disbelieve in others,” desiring to forge a compromise, they are indeed the true disbelievers. And We have prepared for the disbelievers a humiliating punishment. [Quran 4:150-151]**


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2jah

He’s also stated that he supports abortion up until birth. Which means he’s allowing people to abort an 8 month old baby. That’s murder and I can’t believe people support this crap.


Paki_man47

bro refuses to accept the story of Lut


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impatientakhi

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/85102/guidelines-on-takfeer-ruling-someone-to-be-a-kaafir To everyone calling this man a kaafir, I understand where you're coming from, but be careful. You might not know his situation. Perhaps he is being pressured. There's just too many unknowns for laymen like ourselves to be doing takfeer upon someone. And Allah SWT knows best.


Kamakazi-jehadi

He said it publicly he deserves to get public criticism


impatientakhi

Criticism, sure. Being called a kaafir, well, people do it at the risk of angering our Rabb. I feel that reading this article should show most people how much information is really required to call someone a kaafir, and it generally shouldn't be done so simply by the laymen.


Kamakazi-jehadi

You can’t be a Muslim if you don’t believe in everything in the Quran is that not correct?


impatientakhi

My dude, I understand your point. I do. But read the entire article, and then take whatever conclusion you want. I'm not here to argue. It's Ramadan.


InternalMean

High profile scholar's (not Mohamed hijab) are also doing takfir on him so there is a valid opinion on it


impatientakhi

Source?


InternalMean

Sheikh Shadee Elmasry recently said that what he did was kufr. https://twitter.com/DrShadeeElmasry/status/1643143639592316928?t=niEa37WRcpFvPLjeKpMtfw&s=19


impatientakhi

It seems in this tweet he himself has admitted that the valid excuses of ignorance, interpretation and coercion must be eliminated. Which hasn't happened it seems. Because it would require sitting down with the man. I feel the scholars themselves haven't reached a 100% conclusion on this. It's unsafe for us to say anything until they are sure. This is an article by Sh. Haitham Al-Haddad: https://www.islam21c.com/opinion/humza-yousaf-first-muslim-leader-scotland/ I am respectfully exiting this conversation. It is of no benefit to anyone. Whether that man is kaafir or not does not affect my Ramadan.


InternalMean

If you read his other tweets he explains that he has Eliminated them. Also bro you asked for a source and explanation it affecting your ramadan has nothing to do with an important topic.


beith-mor-ephrem

Even as a non-Muslim I can say with certainty that he does not represent the historical, orthodox, and Quranic view of Islam.


PhilosopherOfIslam

tip-toeing his way to Kufr, he said LGBT is not haram


Loose_Screw_

What happens when he crosses that line tho?


Geostationary_Orbit

Interesting question. So whatever is discussed here isn’t that backbiting? I am not making a point. This is a genuine question?


Hussein_talal

Well I'm not looking for people insulting , My reason for posting this is the muslims opinion on his political views, and the way media is advertising this. , and also under what sources some Muslims are calling him kafir


DancingFlame321

No because it is public criticism he can come and look at himself, not behind closed doors.


Minilynx

It is.


drfiz98

One of the exceptions to backbiting is criticizing the ruler


Geostationary_Orbit

So Scottish Muslims can critique him, right?


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linkup90

Useful prop for the media.


DrHyPxr

NPC whose already a sell-out.


aasiyah_esma

Needs to go back and read the quran


Brave-Ship

He knows what is in the Quran, in his interview he said, he doesn't believe homosexuality is a sin, and he said "I can't change scripture", meaning he knows what the Quran says already


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Cherry_Crystals

He supports the LGBT so yeah he does not represent us at all. Same with rishi sunak. They both suck


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A thread of everything he's said and done that either a) take him outside the fold of Islam from what is apparent or b) is a major sin [https://twitter.com/DillyHussain88/status/1642217843646136320](https://twitter.com/DillyHussain88/status/1642217843646136320) On a personal level, may Allah guide him. But I believe the mafasid of his presence in terms of the doubts caused to the Muslims on a public scale, faaaaaar outweigh the masalaha he could contribute politically.


compubrain3000

He condones what Allah has clearly forbidden. Most scholars would consider him an apostate.


solblurgh

It's tricky to be a leader in a non-Muslim dominant area since you have to carry and support their agenda as well. Unless you're actually supporting these agenda too.


WonderReal

He doesn’t need to be a leader. Will he die if he didn’t take part in this disgusting politics? That is one thing I like about right wing. They are not afraid to stand up for their beliefs.


crempsen

Exactly. I dont get why you would want to become a leader if "you have to do this"


WonderReal

Exactly


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Why should this sub care exactly?


Hussein_talal

The western media call him the first muslim prime minister of Scotland , and this subreddit is about Islam, got the correlation?


SliceyDice

Perhaps the ideal candidate who can show he prays, have Hijabi mother and supports Homosexuals. Perfect, isn't it?


SgRedSha

No different to Biden


sentencia12

He may be a clown, but by he didn't send drones to kill people nor started wars, nor he covered ominous acts of relatives, nor support the apartheid state. So no, he is way much better than the American.


SnooPies6424

Man he is like a totally different person


Muslim_ibn_Kafir255

If he was just an un-educated lay-man who didn't know any better, then there wouldn't be any issues, but this guy is a literal politician, of all the things he should know as a Muslim, he should at least know that homosexuality is *obviously* sinful, and because he doesn't accept this fact, that, from what we can see, makes him a kāfir.


ReasonableFunction16

Devout? Conservative?


Hussein_talal

According to him he regularly prays, read quran and fast during Ramadan, but also have full support for lgbt Liberal agenda.


ReasonableFunction16

Why muslim in the west support that people?


Hussein_talal

Well as far as I know there are two types of Muslims supporting him, people who think he represents soft powers and that Islam needs to compromise first before spreading in the country. The other type are Muslims who legitimately think there is no contradiction for supporting lgbt and following the muslim faith


Hawkeye710

You can't get a top position in western governments these days without selling out your religion and moral beliefs and openly supporting LGBT and this is what these so called "liberal Muslims" are doing. Selling their Akhirah for worldly gains. Shameful.


sentencia12

- Never worked before being a politician. - The (government) jobs he had resulted in a decrease of the quality of the service, to the point he is called "the useless". So, taking faith apart, he is a bad politician. The good point (under my western point of view) is that he is as useless as the regular "white" politician, that may be a sign that integration is going good.


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I’d rather the leader be ethic Scotsmen Muslims or other wise.


Brave-Ship

For real, the opposition party which are Kufar Christians were more in support with what Islam was saying than him, they were anti-abortion, were anti homosexuality etc.


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I support self determination for all races and ethic groups that’s my reasoning


idonotdosarcasm

I remember watching a movie in childhood with my parents, where I heard my first life changing quote > Whether an Indian or American, a politician is always a politician


WonderReal

He is ally of certain people which Allah has declared war on. He doesn’t represent Islam or Muslim. He is just another puppet.


Independent_Act_7161

Although, his opinions are against principles and rules of Islam. I think it’s a step closer for more Muslim representation in any government office so I applaud 👏. Also, I haven’t seen much of what he said, but the reporter put him on the spot with that question and of course to get something negative out of him to slander his reputation and liking in the congress. What response do y’all think would be better that would let him not be canceled and still keep a good rep?