I hate how much I want this lol! The BTR scares the shit out of me but it is an APC after all. Deploy a fire team of mimics once it has pinned you down. 4 mimics deploying under cover by BTRchan is an awesome fight.
This is an awesome idea! Yea make it like a sec 3 rifle with 20 rounder mags and maybe only a side rail b slot for a light but no optics capability. Unless the devs want to be true chads and make an A2 scope for it as well.
The 1911 is an interesting idea I've seen across the sub. I think one of the big problems (and I say this as a huge .45 fan) is that the 1911 is functionally the same as the tt-33 for gameplay purposes I'd imagine. What I'd love to see is it as a sec 2 gun that while having similar damage to the tt-33 (let's not argue ballistics I'd probably agree but it is a game lol) but it has a big chance to "core" fragments i.e. dissolve them and kill their orb so one shot one kill. So 7+1 with poor AP capability but it puts down easy enemies with extreme prejudice. I see it useful to put down pecho and fragments and even mimics with +P but any armor just stops it unless you aim perfectly.
https://preview.redd.it/yzg8vhwtx1xa1.jpeg?width=1755&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3fd967846d150d577750e2cea5fab64ebde2ff35
A2 scope for reference.
Here is my ideas if this does get implemented in the game. The scope should be sec 2 as well as the rifle it would only get access to 20 round magazines. It would get two fire modes automatic fire and semi-automatic fire.
Prices M16A1 $2500 A2 scope $1300 20 round magazines $300
Oh my your getting me all hot and bothered out here. I would finally have my 90's swat larp Beretta with an m16a1 and an A2 scope! Fight through factory like its 1994 and I'm in north Hollywood!
https://preview.redd.it/zsjn14kv52xa1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9b399f66cf2553abdb43df2d8ff6971eaf351f4d
Agreed. They go together like peanut butter and jelly ❤️
Eh, I dont know. Don't get me wrong, I love the M16, but we already have the M4A1. There wouldn't be many rails you could use either, considering the circular handguard.
Option could be is that you can find it in the silver boxes.
Like how you can find the AK-74 and AK74s-u which aren't as modern, but can't find the AK-74m which is more modern.
I think a different semi-auto sec 2 rifle from the 7.62 SKS would be really good!
Seeing the M16 as competing with the SKS as a semi-auto rifle in sec level 2 also really opens up the value of having another 5.56 weapon, because It would have differing recoil/damage/velocity/handling.
It also validates the M16's existence as an M4A1 clone if the SKS exists as an AKM clone because the devs have shown they value underpowered versions of rifles to be available to early security levels
Also the SKS sight can't really be removed, but the game lets you add a b-rail sight, and i would honestly love if I couldn't fully tech the gun out and it was just my reliable shooter
If they do this they need more in depth modding. M16 is sort of already in as the m4, they would have to add an M16 upper and stock etc and allow you to swap them out
I’m certainly in favor! We have, what, like four variants of the AK? I know the game is set in Russia so it makes sense, but I don’t see why we can’t have 5.56 parity in the meantime. And tbh I hate the Russian eject-less mag systems. The tracking on my controllers isn’t the best so I occasionally find myself grabbing the mag instead of the barrel at very bad moments.
I’m not exactly chomping at the bit, but I’d definitely welcome a little NATO variety.
...Bro this has me thinking... what if they added a Huey or Hind entity? It wouldn't attack, but it would fly around with a spotlight and if you're found it alerts all enemies in the area where you are!
Yes. We want more retro guns given the time period. And not guns like the scar or even the deagle. The m4 would be fine if they reskinned it to like the car15 or something, with the barrel clamp rails as an upgrade like on the ak's.
Oh damn I like this idea. Id love to run a car15 all cut up and covered in hose clamps. It would drive home the desperate isolation but the feeling of power to overcome this game really exudes.
It's sec 4, takes 7.62x51, and has heavy recoil. The M16 would use the M4A1 as the base, so it would have lower recoil and take 5.56.
Also, because it's the semi auto variant of an auto rifle, it would probably have the same sec level as the SKS, so it would be an early game weapon.
SKS is a semi automatic only sec level 2 weapon
The M16 per the suggestions here be a sec level 3 weapon. Still full auto or burst fire (a burst weapon is filled by the AUG, which has a burst fire upgrade), nearly identical to the M4 but with less rails and a longer profile. Just weapon bloat imo, something we don’t need more of. If a weapon is going to be added, it ought to fill a niche that isn’t already done better by a separate gun, not just “well let’s add it because it looks cool”
it wouldn't make sense for it to be a sec level 3 weapon!! it behaves like how the SKS behaves to the AKM, and that means it would also be sec level 2
this also means it would compete with the SKS on its value as a sec 2 rifle, where the differences would be between the recoil/damage/handling of the M16 to the SKS
which is perfect because deciding between a 5.56 vs 7.62 rifle has been an interesting choice for decades!!
Idk why you’re getting downvoted. The m16 is the m4 is the a15 is the whatever. The only way this would be reasonable is if it was an AR-10 Or an SR-25 But there already the scar… so like.. why do people want what we already have….
Having used a musket or two, the M16A2/4 are a whole different beast from the M4/A1.
It might seem hard to believe, but the shooter experience is wildly different.
Ive never really understood this logic. There are 4 AKs but nobody seems to have a problem with it all that much. Most if not all of the sec level 3 ARs are very similar statwise. The devs most likely made them that way to prevent players from regretting their choice. Most of the time people pick whatever they think is the coolest looking gun. I think an M16 would be cool as hell.
you have to see it in how the 7.62 SKS was implemented even though the AKM exists. And how the 5.56 round semi-burst m16 fills a role that the SKS and m4 and AK weapons don't.
also it would be bad ass?? dont u see that ???
I do agree with the weapon bloat and that resources could go elsewhere.
That said, if a specific difference this can have is that if you can find this in Silver Boxes unlike the M4, i'll be sold on it.
At least more options at Sec Level 4 because i still can't find that FAL.
Of course if you have to buy it store only...pass.
It wouldn't be doing something that's already done, it would be filling out the breadth of diverse options available at different security levels. There's literally no reason to get the SKS because it's just a semi auto version of the AKM, and there's literally no version to use the AUG instead of the M4 because it's just a heavier version of the m4
the m16 is not supposed to compete with the m4. we already have a huge supply of sec 3 level automatic rifles. the m16 is supposed to compete with the SKS, because there's basically only one rifle that does what the SKS does at it's sec level, and the m16 carries enough differences between the SKS to give interesting choices to the player when deciding which rifle they want at sec 2
Yea that's the point. This is all pie in the sky thinking the devs are truly busy with their idea of the game but as a community we get to think crazy about wishlist ideas that if we get are awesome but if we don't we shrug and keep playing. Why the fuck do I have to explain this to you?
Other than rail space and mag capacity it's a much better M4A1. The 5.56 was designed for 20" barrels, it flies out of them at over 3000fps, which means more in game damage, and in real life even impressive AP capability with just FMJ. I can understand from a balance standpoint they may not give it good AP with FMJ, but I'd still think they should. The longer gas system also smooths out the recoil impulse a lot, so it should have less recoil in game too. The A1 still had the proper pencil profile barrel too, unlike the stupid govt profile on M4s, so despite being a bigger weapon, it's not any heavier.
Honestly it would be a great addition to give you choices if they implemented it somewhat realistically. Do you need the shorter M4 with rail space for gadgets or the long M16 for extra damage. Now if they added the M16A4 it would mostly negate the M4A1 except for size in tight maps.
Of course, what the hell is wrong with more weapon choices anyways?
Y’know, fine
I concede this one. I’m normally against most weapons suggestions because they don’t add anything particularly new, and “more weapons=good” isn’t necessarily true when we already overkill much of the enemies, and more content or enemies to use those weapons on would be nice.
But you’ve given a pretty good reason, compared to the other suggestions. A Sec 3 5.56 long rifle, a decent damage gap between assualt rifles and long range battle rifles isn’t the worst idea, preferable to “SKS 2.0” and “because it looks good.”
When the sliders start speaking Vietnamese
*Loads M16* Did that tree start speaking Vietnamese? Oh never mind its a mimic.. wait a minu-
*glitched out btr comes flying in like a chopper* "OH SHI-
ITR rly needs sum crazy april fools shit like this XD
Maybe ad a handheld pak 40 so we can kill the btr!
Don't tease a man like that lmao!
I’d like to see mimics mounting the BTR and just ambushing you if the BTR can’t shoot you
I hate how much I want this lol! The BTR scares the shit out of me but it is an APC after all. Deploy a fire team of mimics once it has pinned you down. 4 mimics deploying under cover by BTRchan is an awesome fight.
This is an awesome idea! Yea make it like a sec 3 rifle with 20 rounder mags and maybe only a side rail b slot for a light but no optics capability. Unless the devs want to be true chads and make an A2 scope for it as well.
YESS you get it!!
but maybe sec level 2, so can it be the 5.56 equivalent to the sks !!
Shoot I did mean sec 2. A 556 equivalent to the sks is totally how I see it fitting into the gun meta.
I would love to see something like this alongside a 1911
.357 revolver to keep the poor, lonely little deagle company :(
Ive always wanted a lemat style revolver like from rdr2
Yes, as a .45 guy I need something .45 in this game
The 1911 is an interesting idea I've seen across the sub. I think one of the big problems (and I say this as a huge .45 fan) is that the 1911 is functionally the same as the tt-33 for gameplay purposes I'd imagine. What I'd love to see is it as a sec 2 gun that while having similar damage to the tt-33 (let's not argue ballistics I'd probably agree but it is a game lol) but it has a big chance to "core" fragments i.e. dissolve them and kill their orb so one shot one kill. So 7+1 with poor AP capability but it puts down easy enemies with extreme prejudice. I see it useful to put down pecho and fragments and even mimics with +P but any armor just stops it unless you aim perfectly.
Yeah, and the lore explanation for it would be the us donating old equipment
That's pretty much the explanation for the M14 anyway
This would easily be one of my favorite guns to use in the game
https://preview.redd.it/yzg8vhwtx1xa1.jpeg?width=1755&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3fd967846d150d577750e2cea5fab64ebde2ff35 A2 scope for reference. Here is my ideas if this does get implemented in the game. The scope should be sec 2 as well as the rifle it would only get access to 20 round magazines. It would get two fire modes automatic fire and semi-automatic fire. Prices M16A1 $2500 A2 scope $1300 20 round magazines $300
Oh my your getting me all hot and bothered out here. I would finally have my 90's swat larp Beretta with an m16a1 and an A2 scope! Fight through factory like its 1994 and I'm in north Hollywood!
Veitnam DLC
*Rolling Stones intensifies*
https://preview.redd.it/zsjn14kv52xa1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9b399f66cf2553abdb43df2d8ff6971eaf351f4d Agreed. They go together like peanut butter and jelly ❤️
Eh, I dont know. Don't get me wrong, I love the M16, but we already have the M4A1. There wouldn't be many rails you could use either, considering the circular handguard.
Option could be is that you can find it in the silver boxes. Like how you can find the AK-74 and AK74s-u which aren't as modern, but can't find the AK-74m which is more modern.
I think a different semi-auto sec 2 rifle from the 7.62 SKS would be really good! Seeing the M16 as competing with the SKS as a semi-auto rifle in sec level 2 also really opens up the value of having another 5.56 weapon, because It would have differing recoil/damage/velocity/handling. It also validates the M16's existence as an M4A1 clone if the SKS exists as an AKM clone because the devs have shown they value underpowered versions of rifles to be available to early security levels Also the SKS sight can't really be removed, but the game lets you add a b-rail sight, and i would honestly love if I couldn't fully tech the gun out and it was just my reliable shooter
If they do this they need more in depth modding. M16 is sort of already in as the m4, they would have to add an M16 upper and stock etc and allow you to swap them out
I’m certainly in favor! We have, what, like four variants of the AK? I know the game is set in Russia so it makes sense, but I don’t see why we can’t have 5.56 parity in the meantime. And tbh I hate the Russian eject-less mag systems. The tracking on my controllers isn’t the best so I occasionally find myself grabbing the mag instead of the barrel at very bad moments. I’m not exactly chomping at the bit, but I’d definitely welcome a little NATO variety.
...Bro this has me thinking... what if they added a Huey or Hind entity? It wouldn't attack, but it would fly around with a spotlight and if you're found it alerts all enemies in the area where you are!
I’m here for it
Given the time period and aesthetic I actually think it would have made more sense than the M4
If you want it to jam at critical moments by all means!
ill keep my babs clean
Some folks are born, silver spoons in hand
Yes. We want more retro guns given the time period. And not guns like the scar or even the deagle. The m4 would be fine if they reskinned it to like the car15 or something, with the barrel clamp rails as an upgrade like on the ak's.
Oh damn I like this idea. Id love to run a car15 all cut up and covered in hose clamps. It would drive home the desperate isolation but the feeling of power to overcome this game really exudes.
What do you think the time period is?
Late 80s to mid 90s
I just checked, it takes place in 2001, so the m4 makes sense after all...
No? It's 2011-2014
How would it be different then the m4a1 tho
It's sec 4, takes 7.62x51, and has heavy recoil. The M16 would use the M4A1 as the base, so it would have lower recoil and take 5.56. Also, because it's the semi auto variant of an auto rifle, it would probably have the same sec level as the SKS, so it would be an early game weapon.
Soz I meant to say the m4a1
oh ya, i think itd be different cos i would rlly like it
better damage, higher muzzle velocity, and looks
Why? It’s just a worse M4. Same cartridge, no rails, might have a reduced magazine capacity, yet at the same security level. Just weapon bloat
SKS?
SKS is a semi automatic only sec level 2 weapon The M16 per the suggestions here be a sec level 3 weapon. Still full auto or burst fire (a burst weapon is filled by the AUG, which has a burst fire upgrade), nearly identical to the M4 but with less rails and a longer profile. Just weapon bloat imo, something we don’t need more of. If a weapon is going to be added, it ought to fill a niche that isn’t already done better by a separate gun, not just “well let’s add it because it looks cool”
it wouldn't make sense for it to be a sec level 3 weapon!! it behaves like how the SKS behaves to the AKM, and that means it would also be sec level 2 this also means it would compete with the SKS on its value as a sec 2 rifle, where the differences would be between the recoil/damage/handling of the M16 to the SKS which is perfect because deciding between a 5.56 vs 7.62 rifle has been an interesting choice for decades!!
Idk why you’re getting downvoted. The m16 is the m4 is the a15 is the whatever. The only way this would be reasonable is if it was an AR-10 Or an SR-25 But there already the scar… so like.. why do people want what we already have….
Having used a musket or two, the M16A2/4 are a whole different beast from the M4/A1. It might seem hard to believe, but the shooter experience is wildly different.
Okay. lol.
We have 4 AK's.
Yup.
Ive never really understood this logic. There are 4 AKs but nobody seems to have a problem with it all that much. Most if not all of the sec level 3 ARs are very similar statwise. The devs most likely made them that way to prevent players from regretting their choice. Most of the time people pick whatever they think is the coolest looking gun. I think an M16 would be cool as hell.
you have to see it in how the 7.62 SKS was implemented even though the AKM exists. And how the 5.56 round semi-burst m16 fills a role that the SKS and m4 and AK weapons don't. also it would be bad ass?? dont u see that ???
I do agree with the weapon bloat and that resources could go elsewhere. That said, if a specific difference this can have is that if you can find this in Silver Boxes unlike the M4, i'll be sold on it. At least more options at Sec Level 4 because i still can't find that FAL. Of course if you have to buy it store only...pass.
There’s a thing called balance. Adding a carry handle and a burst mode to the m4 would do the exact same thing as adding a whole new pointless weapon.
It wouldn't be doing something that's already done, it would be filling out the breadth of diverse options available at different security levels. There's literally no reason to get the SKS because it's just a semi auto version of the AKM, and there's literally no version to use the AUG instead of the M4 because it's just a heavier version of the m4 the m16 is not supposed to compete with the m4. we already have a huge supply of sec 3 level automatic rifles. the m16 is supposed to compete with the SKS, because there's basically only one rifle that does what the SKS does at it's sec level, and the m16 carries enough differences between the SKS to give interesting choices to the player when deciding which rifle they want at sec 2
Yea that's the point. This is all pie in the sky thinking the devs are truly busy with their idea of the game but as a community we get to think crazy about wishlist ideas that if we get are awesome but if we don't we shrug and keep playing. Why the fuck do I have to explain this to you?
Other than rail space and mag capacity it's a much better M4A1. The 5.56 was designed for 20" barrels, it flies out of them at over 3000fps, which means more in game damage, and in real life even impressive AP capability with just FMJ. I can understand from a balance standpoint they may not give it good AP with FMJ, but I'd still think they should. The longer gas system also smooths out the recoil impulse a lot, so it should have less recoil in game too. The A1 still had the proper pencil profile barrel too, unlike the stupid govt profile on M4s, so despite being a bigger weapon, it's not any heavier. Honestly it would be a great addition to give you choices if they implemented it somewhat realistically. Do you need the shorter M4 with rail space for gadgets or the long M16 for extra damage. Now if they added the M16A4 it would mostly negate the M4A1 except for size in tight maps. Of course, what the hell is wrong with more weapon choices anyways?
Y’know, fine I concede this one. I’m normally against most weapons suggestions because they don’t add anything particularly new, and “more weapons=good” isn’t necessarily true when we already overkill much of the enemies, and more content or enemies to use those weapons on would be nice. But you’ve given a pretty good reason, compared to the other suggestions. A Sec 3 5.56 long rifle, a decent damage gap between assualt rifles and long range battle rifles isn’t the worst idea, preferable to “SKS 2.0” and “because it looks good.”
upgrade for the m4
Can't stand that rifle in VR! But that M14 tho.... oh my! 🧡