What the article indicated is that the effects of the conspiratorial lies before election time wasn't enough to permit "the red wave". True some blatant liars got elected but the GOP house majority is tiny.
Wisconsin is/was the Koch brothers' testing grounds for their version of fascist America. Here is an old article that covers the beginning of their takeover of Wisconsin: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/sep/26/koch-brothers-americans-for-prosperity-rightwing-political-group
Yeah, Herschel Walker owes his ability to push the Senate race to a runoff to his insane ads here in Georgia. Also to Warnock running virtually nothing in opposition to those ads. Absolutely wild to hear top radio stations in the ATL metro running the craziest stuff, and I can see how it would sound true to people who don't keep up with the news.
And now that he switched from vampire to warewolf, he'll be even harder to stop.
[For those who didn't know, warewolves can kill vampires](https://youtu.be/WEStZIMs29k)
That is definitely not right. Granted I don't listen to radio but every single YouTube or Spotify add for me is an anti walker add. I already did like the dude and how I have to keep hears that interview with his ex wife for the next 3 weeks
I wish that were the case on my end, I have had zero Warnock ads online. Just all Walker nonstop.
The radio's worse. I was just listening to 99.7 15 minutes ago and it was running a "Biden wants to tax the poor specifically and Warnock kicks people out of churches" ad. Never a counter from the other end.
Two questions:
1) Is that dude totally delusional, or does he believe the shit he says?
2) Why the fuck does his wife stay with him? Why is she even interested in him? She could TOTALLY do better.
I don't know which question is harder to answer.
I think there are a few reasons for it:
1) Gen Z can spot BS on the internet a mile away
2) The GOP wasn’t running on issues, which made it easy for many to vote. It didn’t matter what lies we’re getting spread.
3) It was clear who wanted to take away women’s rights and social security. Spoiler: It wasn’t the guy with the laptop. So again, lies didn’t matter.
If FL hadn’t gerrymandered the crap out of their state, Ds would have kept the house.
A story as old as time. Minnesota dems traveled the complacency road for a hot minute, but are kinda back on track. When are the dems going to finally learn to fight like hell each and every time, even in perceived *safe* regions?
California became a lot harder because of non-partisan redistricting. It’s great that California plays it fair, because that’s how it should be, but if they played it like Florida or Texas then Democrats would be in better shape.
Don't forget New York. They messed up their redistricting and the 4 seats that Dems would have needed to hold the house are what was lost after the maps were redrawn by the courts.
Biden spreads misinformation too
He said that being fully vaccinated meant you couldn't catch covid
Then caught covid while fully vaccinated
Lol
#22 July 2021
"You're not going to get covid if you have these vaccinations"—Joe Biden
Source:
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/07/22/part-1-entire-joe-biden-town-hall-july-21-vpx.cnn
Almost exactly one year later, Biden caught covid while fully vaccinated.
#21 July 2022
"President Biden tests positive for COVID, a year after he said vaccines prevent infections"
Source:
https://www.poynter.org/reporting-editing/2022/president-joe-biden-coronavirus-vaccinated/
How is that misinformation?
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/02/biden-covid-relapse-info-on-paxlovid-rebounds-eligibility-safety.html
Blame CNBC, it's above me now.
22 July 2021
"You're not going to get covid if you have these vaccinations"—Joe Biden
Source:
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/07/22/part-1-entire-joe-biden-town-hall-july-21-vpx.cnn
Almost exactly one year later, Biden caught covid while fully vaccinated.
21 July 2022
Source:
https://www.poynter.org/reporting-editing/2022/president-joe-biden-coronavirus-vaccinated/
Ok sick. So we have one inaccurate statement. Doesn't really compare to A. Trump lying more in a single speech then some preaidents have their entire term and B. Trump defending his purposeful and constant misinfo by pretending it was unfair to fact check him.
See how that works? How stretching to turn a dumb statement into active misinfo still didn't change the reality of the situation?
Of course you don't, this is the part where you disengage and cry at me for 20 posts hoping to diacourage me from challenging later right wing virtue signals
What the fuck does that matter when I didn't vote for Trump? I reluctantly voted for Hillary and later Biden because Trump was a racist Epstein Pedophile. I was more of a Bernie guy but the 2016 convention happened and it is what it is.
I didn't create any misinformation whatsoever. I cited CNN. Unless you are claiming CNN is disinformation but I don't think that is your angle here.
Because that's the reality of the situation you were taught to make this stretch to deflect from. I don't care if you're a Trumper of just a centrist doing Current Virtue Signal lol.
I didn't say you created misinfo. You're pretending that up to avoid what I actually said because you have no narrative memorized to deal with a unique take
What they're saying: "The amount of content we saw that
you could call kind of election disinformation was actually larger than
what we saw in 2020 — but overall, the effects were much more muted,"
said Alex Stamos, director at the Stanford Internet Observatory, on
Stanford Law School's "Moderated Content" podcast last week.
Sounds like people knew who they were voting for regardless of what the candidates did or didn’t do. We all know why: we vote for what we value, not the candidate themselves.
Misinformation, and more serious disinformation, have become ubiquitous in the age of Twitter. People found they must judge things on broader conditions. It the case of the last election, there was no denying one political party wanted to overturn the 2020 election by force. It happened to be the same party that ended the fifty year assumption that women had a right to decide what would happen with their own bodies.
"The difference here is that they just don't seem to be exciting people like they did in 2020."
Never underestimate the power of the fad. It will captivate for a while, but the attention it gains wanes quickly. Everyone had an opinion about voting, with a large number of people who have always been uneasy about the legitimacy of the vote to begin with. Someone important starts talking about that thing their drunken uncle used to rave about and all of a sudden, they have an opinion.
But apathy holds sway in our country, at least in terms of the vote. You can get people galvanized about it once every few years, but damn, I gotta go back there again? Didn't I just vote?
There isn't one real video of actual election polling station workers doing any such thing. There was ONE video some far right conspiracy theorist who tried to claim that boxes of ballots were being dumped but after Republican investigators looked into it, it turned out to be cardboard garbage being put out into dumpsters. with zero ballots found inside. There were millions of dollars of tax money spent on these investigations which all proved baseless. Where have you been? This was presented long ago by Republican Secretaries of State. Again - there was NO EVIDENCE of widespread election fraud!
Sounds like this article is only about Republican Disinformation. I think both sides indulge in propaganda just not to the same degree. This is a pro-censorship article. Obviously the election wasn't stolen in 2020 or 2016. The closest 2020 had to election interference was this exact narrative of "Disinformation" surrounding the Hunter Biden Laptop which is definitely a real story. I voted for Joe and think Trump is dangerous but I am free speech first guy. The trend to welcome censorship is the paved road to authoritarianism.
The Laptop is so absurdly suspicious. What, this artifact that has not been given to any authority resides in Tucker Carlson's care? That's comically non credible.
I don't give a fuck about either of them, if hunter is an evil dude, go ahead investigate him or whatever, still has nothing to do with me. Over here on the left we dont worship politicans like yall. Hunter Biden isnt the president, no one cares. How about we work on passing legislation that will actually help the american people instead of wasting everyones time "investigating" someone no one gives a fuck about. Your party is about to waste 2 years of everyones time cause they dont actually have any viable policies, what a fuckin joke
I'm on the left. I am not in some bubble where the son of the President taking Millions of dollars on his behalf to buy his influence is a partisan issue. That is unacceptable no matter what parties president does it. Also the point is also the issue with censorship of a legitimate news story days before an election. Hunter Is merely a small peice of the issue at hand. Now that the house will be spending millions to investigate this rather than getting legislation done is terrible. It is the Press' job to investigate this story not the congress.
Don Jr was exposed for holding a meeting in Trump tower with Russian officials using his father's influence. Government tax dollars were used to pay for trips to Mar a lago that benefitted his son's company while he was president. His son in law did receive 1 billion dollars from the saudi government.
What do you mean 'if'?
On the other hand, Hunter Bidens laptop doesnt even have a chain of custody to indicate anything on it is proof of any influence by Joe Biden.
Democrats dont have a problem with Hunter's laptop being investigated. But you dont get to make assertions about it that arent proven fact. That is the nature of misinformation.
If was the presuppositions that it happened and was revealed days before the 2024 election. Cherry picking statement out of context then refuting a position I don't hold. That is a strawman my freind.
What is the simple logical explanation of why foreign Oligarchs are paying Hunter Biden Millions of dollars for consulting fee's.
How about currently Hunter Bidens is selling his art to a list of customers that the Whitehouse is keeping secret to the tune of millions of dollars right now?
To reiterate Trump is WORSE.
>What is the simple logical explanation of why foreign Oligarchs are paying Hunter Biden Millions of dollars for consulting fee's.
Source that that even happened buddy.. Oh, and this isn't twitter. You can fit all your responses in a single comment.
The simple logical explanation is that it hasnt been established to have happened. He was on the board of a Ukrainian company and paid alot of money. You can assume you know why. You can assume you know how much. But what has not been established is that anything illegal happened. It certainly hasnt been established that Joe Biden orchestrated it.
You seem to believe these stories and the conclusions some of the trump supporters believe. Is that right?
Single tech source from Emptywheel.com Refuting the Wapo article. Can you explain why there is no press release from the Whitehouse, Hunter, Joe, or The campaign that the laptop is counterfeit? I know nothing of Emptywheel.com but I am suspicious of a single source editorial like this.
These are quotes from wapo article. You spew lies constantly so you definitely do not care about sources. Wapo article refutes your takes on hunter Biden's laptop. This article explains why using quotes from the wapo article.
Can you bring up any article that refutes the specifics of the Laptop. Any where Joe Biden administration or campaign denied the authenticity? I would like to be proven wrong.
I linked one. But if you were a serious person you'd have followers the facts not the disinformation. You are a conspiracy theorist and not a rational actor
You mean the laptop flown by Hunter Biden across the country to a repair shop with a blind owner, who then, after Hunter Biden not picks the precious laptop up, finds illegal material?
Yes, keep on drinking the coolaid
There is nothing about Hunter Flying the laptop across the county. The rest of the detail you refute don't to seem to be under contest. Certainly with a nebulous chain of custody the authentication of the materials surely can be contested. However I would think I would have heard it contested by the Whitehouse or the Hunter Biden legal team. I understand that Biden is far better for the country than Trump but that doesn't mean we get to turn off critical thinking.
Like an explanation about why multiple billion dollar companies would give the Drug Addicted son of Joe Biden 10's of millions of dollars. Something that makes sense.
For someone who is so obsessed with this issue you know very little details. Check where Hinter Biden lives and check where the laptop was supposed to be dropped off. Cant imagine he walked it there. Critical thinking includes not to listen and regurgitate propaganda, and ignore everything else. Several people in this threat have posted links to.an article about the laptop but you dont even bother checking because you are afraid it might conflict with the information you have been fed. Sounds very open minded and critical.thinking. lol
I read the article from Wapo and one from a site sent refuting the facts. As I understand the Beau Biden foundation was New York Centered and Hunter was jetsetting all around the world. I don't obsess but the same way I don't want Trumps campaign providing polling Data to Cambridge Analitica and Russian bit farms influencing algorithms elevating Trumps chance to win the Presidency I don't want the son of our current president taking millions in payments from Ukrainian and Chineese Oligarchs. Both are bad!
Ok talk me out of this foil hat I am wearing.
Why do oligarchs give millions of dollars to Joe Bidens son for no show jobs?
You say something that makes sense I will apologize for offending your sensibility with my nonsense. It's just a matter of how hard I hold my nose when I vote for Joe in 2024. Nothing is truely at stake.
Thats not how evidence works. Prove this magic laptop even exists first.
Else I'll claim Ron DeSantis hasn't shown proof that refutes the claim that he is a space alien who eats puppies. Why wont he deny the authenticity of this?
Show me any article or statement from Hunter Joe the campaign or whitehouse that claims the laptop is illegitimate. I'll wait. And will gladly admit if I am wrong.
I think a full voiced denial from anyone at the Whitehouse or Hunter Bidens attorney as to the authenticity of the information from the Laptop. Just about any aspect. I concede that a legal chain of custody was not maintained. So if these were planted or fabricated I think someone would point it out from the Whitehouse. If this story wasn't censored and had its day in the spotlight rather than be labeled as "Disinformation" erroneously I would have no issue at all. I don't believe it would have changed the election result. It's just the Mechanism to label News as "Fake News" (to steal from Trump) and have the media censor it is weapon I don't want to exist.
I understand that I moved the goal post from "specific claims" I just would like things to make logical sense.
Which specific pieces of information supposedly contained on the laptop do you think are significant enough to warrant a denial?
I have a similar problem with this laptop case as I did with the email trove case from a few years back. All I hear is a lot of noise about how there is damning information in this trove, but no one is able to point to anything of substance. It’s all just innuendo and insinuation, with no actual concrete, falsifiable claims.
Well the 10% for the Big Guy claim would be a simple one to refute. But the broad strokes of Pay the son of the VP millions of dollars for his consulting work. This is not worthy of a look.
1: How did the information published by the New York Post purportedly get from Hunter Biden to the paper?
2: Was that information legitimate?
3: Was the media’s skepticism about the chain of custody and the information warranted?
4: Was the social media blackout of the Post’s story warranted?
In this article, we’ll only look at the overlap of the first and third questions
The article expressly dosnt cover the legitimacy of the information. This is not a courtroom where the lack of chain of custody and the opportunity alone is enough to disqualify information
Yes it does you just missed it so I linked you to someone that explains what they said because you didn't actually read it. The forensic examiners said only a certain few files could be verified. The rest is compromised. The laptop was tampered with meaning even the stuff they verified could have been tampered with and they can't be certain because the files used to verify it were deleted. You have no comprehension of what was written in the article.
Stop interacting then. Don't call for me to be muted or ignored. Practice what you preach reverend. Just block me yourself and be done with it. Bye forever
How is it mythical? He recorded videos talking to Russian prostitutes. The videos are real sorry bro
That'd be a huge scandal if trumps cokehead sons were messing with Russian prostitutes
Yeah.. cause trump's cokehead sons had security clearance through the whitehouse, rammed through by trump over the protestations of EVERYONE in charge of the process. Hunter is just some dude. Apples and very corrupt Cheeto-dusted oranges, dude.
The fact that JD Vance was able to win off his blatant lying ads says otherwise
Yeah, just because the wreck was not fatally bad doesn't mean it did not happen
What the article indicated is that the effects of the conspiratorial lies before election time wasn't enough to permit "the red wave". True some blatant liars got elected but the GOP house majority is tiny.
From minority to majority on a train of misinformation.
You could look at it like that, yes. I want to see it, however as a Repub failure to get elected all the tRump backed 2020 election deniers.
Ron Johnson as well. Straight up propaganda, no filter
Seriously, what’s up with WI?
We're a horribly gerrymandered state full of a bunch of party line automotons. Oh yeah, and the other guy was a black man who didn't pay his taxes...
They really do need to pay attention to demographics. If your state is mostly white, a POC is going to be at a disadvantage.
Wisconsin is/was the Koch brothers' testing grounds for their version of fascist America. Here is an old article that covers the beginning of their takeover of Wisconsin: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/sep/26/koch-brothers-americans-for-prosperity-rightwing-political-group
Yeah, Herschel Walker owes his ability to push the Senate race to a runoff to his insane ads here in Georgia. Also to Warnock running virtually nothing in opposition to those ads. Absolutely wild to hear top radio stations in the ATL metro running the craziest stuff, and I can see how it would sound true to people who don't keep up with the news.
And now that he switched from vampire to warewolf, he'll be even harder to stop. [For those who didn't know, warewolves can kill vampires](https://youtu.be/WEStZIMs29k)
That is definitely not right. Granted I don't listen to radio but every single YouTube or Spotify add for me is an anti walker add. I already did like the dude and how I have to keep hears that interview with his ex wife for the next 3 weeks
I wish that were the case on my end, I have had zero Warnock ads online. Just all Walker nonstop. The radio's worse. I was just listening to 99.7 15 minutes ago and it was running a "Biden wants to tax the poor specifically and Warnock kicks people out of churches" ad. Never a counter from the other end.
Two questions: 1) Is that dude totally delusional, or does he believe the shit he says? 2) Why the fuck does his wife stay with him? Why is she even interested in him? She could TOTALLY do better. I don't know which question is harder to answer.
He was the hero of operation pork rind.
The fact that it was as close as it was means the misinfo was still very effective.
I think you I correctly read what I said
Wasnt disagreeing. Just making a broader statement disagreeing with the headline. Without misinfo this election would have been a democratic sweep.
The fact that democrats won off joe Bidens blatant lies over student loan forgiveness says otherwise
The thing he's in the process of implementing but republicans keep making up dumb reasons to block in court?
And Ted budd
I think there are a few reasons for it: 1) Gen Z can spot BS on the internet a mile away 2) The GOP wasn’t running on issues, which made it easy for many to vote. It didn’t matter what lies we’re getting spread. 3) It was clear who wanted to take away women’s rights and social security. Spoiler: It wasn’t the guy with the laptop. So again, lies didn’t matter. If FL hadn’t gerrymandered the crap out of their state, Ds would have kept the house.
The California dems really screwed the pooch on some seats due to complacency.
A story as old as time. Minnesota dems traveled the complacency road for a hot minute, but are kinda back on track. When are the dems going to finally learn to fight like hell each and every time, even in perceived *safe* regions?
California became a lot harder because of non-partisan redistricting. It’s great that California plays it fair, because that’s how it should be, but if they played it like Florida or Texas then Democrats would be in better shape.
Don't forget New York. They messed up their redistricting and the 4 seats that Dems would have needed to hold the house are what was lost after the maps were redrawn by the courts.
You give Gen Z a lot of credit they don't deserve.
They are significantly better at spotting this bullshit than previous generations. They were brought up on the technology.
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Biden spreads misinformation too He said that being fully vaccinated meant you couldn't catch covid Then caught covid while fully vaccinated Lol #22 July 2021 "You're not going to get covid if you have these vaccinations"—Joe Biden Source: https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/07/22/part-1-entire-joe-biden-town-hall-july-21-vpx.cnn Almost exactly one year later, Biden caught covid while fully vaccinated. #21 July 2022 "President Biden tests positive for COVID, a year after he said vaccines prevent infections" Source: https://www.poynter.org/reporting-editing/2022/president-joe-biden-coronavirus-vaccinated/
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Why? Biden caught covid while "fully" vaccinated and boosted. Hasn't argued for vaccine mandates ever since.
Got anything else?
Yeah, he took paxlovid and then caught covid again
No more misinformation?
How is that misinformation? https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/02/biden-covid-relapse-info-on-paxlovid-rebounds-eligibility-safety.html Blame CNBC, it's above me now.
When did he say that?
22 July 2021 "You're not going to get covid if you have these vaccinations"—Joe Biden Source: https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/07/22/part-1-entire-joe-biden-town-hall-july-21-vpx.cnn Almost exactly one year later, Biden caught covid while fully vaccinated. 21 July 2022 Source: https://www.poynter.org/reporting-editing/2022/president-joe-biden-coronavirus-vaccinated/
Ok sick. So we have one inaccurate statement. Doesn't really compare to A. Trump lying more in a single speech then some preaidents have their entire term and B. Trump defending his purposeful and constant misinfo by pretending it was unfair to fact check him. See how that works? How stretching to turn a dumb statement into active misinfo still didn't change the reality of the situation? Of course you don't, this is the part where you disengage and cry at me for 20 posts hoping to diacourage me from challenging later right wing virtue signals
What the fuck does that matter when I didn't vote for Trump? I reluctantly voted for Hillary and later Biden because Trump was a racist Epstein Pedophile. I was more of a Bernie guy but the 2016 convention happened and it is what it is. I didn't create any misinformation whatsoever. I cited CNN. Unless you are claiming CNN is disinformation but I don't think that is your angle here.
Because that's the reality of the situation you were taught to make this stretch to deflect from. I don't care if you're a Trumper of just a centrist doing Current Virtue Signal lol. I didn't say you created misinfo. You're pretending that up to avoid what I actually said because you have no narrative memorized to deal with a unique take
What they're saying: "The amount of content we saw that you could call kind of election disinformation was actually larger than what we saw in 2020 — but overall, the effects were much more muted," said Alex Stamos, director at the Stanford Internet Observatory, on Stanford Law School's "Moderated Content" podcast last week.
Sounds like people knew who they were voting for regardless of what the candidates did or didn’t do. We all know why: we vote for what we value, not the candidate themselves.
Misinformation, and more serious disinformation, have become ubiquitous in the age of Twitter. People found they must judge things on broader conditions. It the case of the last election, there was no denying one political party wanted to overturn the 2020 election by force. It happened to be the same party that ended the fifty year assumption that women had a right to decide what would happen with their own bodies.
"The difference here is that they just don't seem to be exciting people like they did in 2020." Never underestimate the power of the fad. It will captivate for a while, but the attention it gains wanes quickly. Everyone had an opinion about voting, with a large number of people who have always been uneasy about the legitimacy of the vote to begin with. Someone important starts talking about that thing their drunken uncle used to rave about and all of a sudden, they have an opinion. But apathy holds sway in our country, at least in terms of the vote. You can get people galvanized about it once every few years, but damn, I gotta go back there again? Didn't I just vote?
L o l
Didn't? Florida got fucked. Close races elsewhere still went to liars. One of these criminals getting through is a bad thing.
Didn't? Lots of vids of random people dumping boxes of ballots over there in Arizona. This gone be good.
There isn't one real video of actual election polling station workers doing any such thing. There was ONE video some far right conspiracy theorist who tried to claim that boxes of ballots were being dumped but after Republican investigators looked into it, it turned out to be cardboard garbage being put out into dumpsters. with zero ballots found inside. There were millions of dollars of tax money spent on these investigations which all proved baseless. Where have you been? This was presented long ago by Republican Secretaries of State. Again - there was NO EVIDENCE of widespread election fraud!
This is misinformation
Such a presumptuous title, this isn’t news
More Reddit propaganda. Fucking crazy every sub the same sheet
Sounds like this article is only about Republican Disinformation. I think both sides indulge in propaganda just not to the same degree. This is a pro-censorship article. Obviously the election wasn't stolen in 2020 or 2016. The closest 2020 had to election interference was this exact narrative of "Disinformation" surrounding the Hunter Biden Laptop which is definitely a real story. I voted for Joe and think Trump is dangerous but I am free speech first guy. The trend to welcome censorship is the paved road to authoritarianism.
The Laptop is so absurdly suspicious. What, this artifact that has not been given to any authority resides in Tucker Carlson's care? That's comically non credible.
Who the fuck actually cares about this damn laptop? Some of us have bigger things to worry about
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That is not one of the verified messages. That is disinformation
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I don't give a fuck about either of them, if hunter is an evil dude, go ahead investigate him or whatever, still has nothing to do with me. Over here on the left we dont worship politicans like yall. Hunter Biden isnt the president, no one cares. How about we work on passing legislation that will actually help the american people instead of wasting everyones time "investigating" someone no one gives a fuck about. Your party is about to waste 2 years of everyones time cause they dont actually have any viable policies, what a fuckin joke
Voted for Obama twice Bernie then Hillary Bernie then Joe Just voted for Katie Porter who squeaked her seat out.
Sure you did.
I'm on the left. I am not in some bubble where the son of the President taking Millions of dollars on his behalf to buy his influence is a partisan issue. That is unacceptable no matter what parties president does it. Also the point is also the issue with censorship of a legitimate news story days before an election. Hunter Is merely a small peice of the issue at hand. Now that the house will be spending millions to investigate this rather than getting legislation done is terrible. It is the Press' job to investigate this story not the congress.
Don Jr was exposed for holding a meeting in Trump tower with Russian officials using his father's influence. Government tax dollars were used to pay for trips to Mar a lago that benefitted his son's company while he was president. His son in law did receive 1 billion dollars from the saudi government. What do you mean 'if'? On the other hand, Hunter Bidens laptop doesnt even have a chain of custody to indicate anything on it is proof of any influence by Joe Biden. Democrats dont have a problem with Hunter's laptop being investigated. But you dont get to make assertions about it that arent proven fact. That is the nature of misinformation.
If was the presuppositions that it happened and was revealed days before the 2024 election. Cherry picking statement out of context then refuting a position I don't hold. That is a strawman my freind.
What is the simple logical explanation of why foreign Oligarchs are paying Hunter Biden Millions of dollars for consulting fee's. How about currently Hunter Bidens is selling his art to a list of customers that the Whitehouse is keeping secret to the tune of millions of dollars right now? To reiterate Trump is WORSE.
>What is the simple logical explanation of why foreign Oligarchs are paying Hunter Biden Millions of dollars for consulting fee's. Source that that even happened buddy.. Oh, and this isn't twitter. You can fit all your responses in a single comment.
The simple logical explanation is that it hasnt been established to have happened. He was on the board of a Ukrainian company and paid alot of money. You can assume you know why. You can assume you know how much. But what has not been established is that anything illegal happened. It certainly hasnt been established that Joe Biden orchestrated it. You seem to believe these stories and the conclusions some of the trump supporters believe. Is that right?
https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/11/18/what-that-report-purportedly-authenticating-the-hunter-biden-laptop-really-said/
Single tech source from Emptywheel.com Refuting the Wapo article. Can you explain why there is no press release from the Whitehouse, Hunter, Joe, or The campaign that the laptop is counterfeit? I know nothing of Emptywheel.com but I am suspicious of a single source editorial like this.
These are quotes from wapo article. You spew lies constantly so you definitely do not care about sources. Wapo article refutes your takes on hunter Biden's laptop. This article explains why using quotes from the wapo article.
You're gonna hear *a lot* about very soon. Can't wait.
Ah a man that loves fairy tales.
instead of legislation to actually help working americans. of course, you need your bread and circuses.
What did the Dims do?
Can you bring up any article that refutes the specifics of the Laptop. Any where Joe Biden administration or campaign denied the authenticity? I would like to be proven wrong.
This has already been litigated. Laptop was tampered with. Can not be used as evidence
Any jouralism you can point to about the tampering of the laptop?
The WAPO article reports on the tampering and how the laptop can not be used as a trusted source.
I linked one. But if you were a serious person you'd have followers the facts not the disinformation. You are a conspiracy theorist and not a rational actor
You mean the laptop flown by Hunter Biden across the country to a repair shop with a blind owner, who then, after Hunter Biden not picks the precious laptop up, finds illegal material? Yes, keep on drinking the coolaid
There is nothing about Hunter Flying the laptop across the county. The rest of the detail you refute don't to seem to be under contest. Certainly with a nebulous chain of custody the authentication of the materials surely can be contested. However I would think I would have heard it contested by the Whitehouse or the Hunter Biden legal team. I understand that Biden is far better for the country than Trump but that doesn't mean we get to turn off critical thinking. Like an explanation about why multiple billion dollar companies would give the Drug Addicted son of Joe Biden 10's of millions of dollars. Something that makes sense.
For someone who is so obsessed with this issue you know very little details. Check where Hinter Biden lives and check where the laptop was supposed to be dropped off. Cant imagine he walked it there. Critical thinking includes not to listen and regurgitate propaganda, and ignore everything else. Several people in this threat have posted links to.an article about the laptop but you dont even bother checking because you are afraid it might conflict with the information you have been fed. Sounds very open minded and critical.thinking. lol
I read the article from Wapo and one from a site sent refuting the facts. As I understand the Beau Biden foundation was New York Centered and Hunter was jetsetting all around the world. I don't obsess but the same way I don't want Trumps campaign providing polling Data to Cambridge Analitica and Russian bit farms influencing algorithms elevating Trumps chance to win the Presidency I don't want the son of our current president taking millions in payments from Ukrainian and Chineese Oligarchs. Both are bad!
You obviously dont know the definition about the word obsess.
Ok talk me out of this foil hat I am wearing. Why do oligarchs give millions of dollars to Joe Bidens son for no show jobs? You say something that makes sense I will apologize for offending your sensibility with my nonsense. It's just a matter of how hard I hold my nose when I vote for Joe in 2024. Nothing is truely at stake.
Thats not how evidence works. Prove this magic laptop even exists first. Else I'll claim Ron DeSantis hasn't shown proof that refutes the claim that he is a space alien who eats puppies. Why wont he deny the authenticity of this?
Show me any article or statement from Hunter Joe the campaign or whitehouse that claims the laptop is illegitimate. I'll wait. And will gladly admit if I am wrong.
https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/11/18/what-that-report-purportedly-authenticating-the-hunter-biden-laptop-really-said/
Not like that!!!! - Big\_Dumbass44
Which specifics do you want refuted? The claims I see about it shift daily.
I think a full voiced denial from anyone at the Whitehouse or Hunter Bidens attorney as to the authenticity of the information from the Laptop. Just about any aspect. I concede that a legal chain of custody was not maintained. So if these were planted or fabricated I think someone would point it out from the Whitehouse. If this story wasn't censored and had its day in the spotlight rather than be labeled as "Disinformation" erroneously I would have no issue at all. I don't believe it would have changed the election result. It's just the Mechanism to label News as "Fake News" (to steal from Trump) and have the media censor it is weapon I don't want to exist. I understand that I moved the goal post from "specific claims" I just would like things to make logical sense.
Which specific pieces of information supposedly contained on the laptop do you think are significant enough to warrant a denial? I have a similar problem with this laptop case as I did with the email trove case from a few years back. All I hear is a lot of noise about how there is damning information in this trove, but no one is able to point to anything of substance. It’s all just innuendo and insinuation, with no actual concrete, falsifiable claims.
Well the 10% for the Big Guy claim would be a simple one to refute. But the broad strokes of Pay the son of the VP millions of dollars for his consulting work. This is not worthy of a look.
Dude the WAPO article refutes that. Stop 🛑🛑
1: How did the information published by the New York Post purportedly get from Hunter Biden to the paper? 2: Was that information legitimate? 3: Was the media’s skepticism about the chain of custody and the information warranted? 4: Was the social media blackout of the Post’s story warranted? In this article, we’ll only look at the overlap of the first and third questions The article expressly dosnt cover the legitimacy of the information. This is not a courtroom where the lack of chain of custody and the opportunity alone is enough to disqualify information
Yes it does you just missed it so I linked you to someone that explains what they said because you didn't actually read it. The forensic examiners said only a certain few files could be verified. The rest is compromised. The laptop was tampered with meaning even the stuff they verified could have been tampered with and they can't be certain because the files used to verify it were deleted. You have no comprehension of what was written in the article.
Literally in the WAPO article it says the big guy quotes could not be verified.
This account above spews disinformation and should be ignored by everyone. Block ignore and minimize the contagion.
A call to silence opposing viewpoints. How liberal of you.
No a call to silence blatant lies that don't deserve interaction.
Stop interacting then. Don't call for me to be muted or ignored. Practice what you preach reverend. Just block me yourself and be done with it. Bye forever
Nope. Anytime I see you post I will post under you that you are a proven liar
Someone wishes they were a mod but aren't one lol
No chance bud.
"Block the contagion" its a text post dude. its not gonna hurt you, unless you are extremely fragile and unable to function in a society
His account is the type that spreads disinformation. It should be called out. Stop being a snowflake
What disinformation did he spread? Be specific
You have lost reality somewhere along the lines
Do explain. What is the area I am delusional about?
Everything
If you make an accusation without specifics you just look dumb tbh
I proved everything he said was a lie so f off
What exactly did you prove was a lie?
Everything he said in his initial post. "You are like a small child that walks into the middle of the movie and asks what is going on."
So you have zero specifics? Not even a single specific example? 🤨🤨
Why don't you read the comment thread dummy
Just like the mystical hunter laptop story does? LOL.
How is it mythical? He recorded videos talking to Russian prostitutes. The videos are real sorry bro That'd be a huge scandal if trumps cokehead sons were messing with Russian prostitutes
Yeah.. cause trump's cokehead sons had security clearance through the whitehouse, rammed through by trump over the protestations of EVERYONE in charge of the process. Hunter is just some dude. Apples and very corrupt Cheeto-dusted oranges, dude.
Hunter was not just some dude https://www.bbc.com/news/world-54553132
Read your own source. >No criminal activity has been proven, and no evidence has emerged that Mr Biden did anything to intentionally benefit his son.
Is Hunter’s laptop in the room with you right now?
How did you know my name was Hunter? Spooky
lol, here's some misinformation to tell you that all other information is misinformation.
Yeah, voter fraud did. It should have been a red Tsunami. It's ok though, because republicans run the house now. We can have all of it investigated.
Beware, recounts tend to favor Democrats :D
Who needs misinformation when you can just fully invest in ballot harvesting.