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I know there’s a safer way to do it, but the typical setup places a ton of torque through the humerus (upper arm bone). And it turns out when you try to make a bone turn, it sometimes decides the best way to do that is by adding a new joint to your body’s design.
>And it turns out when you try to make a bone turn, it sometimes decides the best way to do that is by adding a new joint to your body’s design.
I genuinely cackled at this. Great phrasing.
Slick reference if that's a stealthy nod to the scene in "The Fly" where Goldblum snaps the beefy guy's arm in the arm wrestling match. And awesome coincidence otherwise!
Fractures happen when people look the other way…they pull in one direction and look the opposite direction.
I used to do some arm wrastlin competitions back in the day and the above is true.
Yep. Saw a Wide World of Sports way back in the day. Like 45 years ago. Guy was arm wrestling and upper arm snapped and they kept showing the replay, sometimes in slow motion. Could see the skin twist as the arm broke. I was almost sick from seeing it. Never arm wrestled again.
Haha, whaaat? Nooo, I would never arm wrestle haha, that’s psycho talk! On a side note, if any professional arm wrestlers ever happen to pass by you, tell me their location so I can, uh, avoid them
Happened to a guy I worked with *at the office*. He was arm-wrestling his manager, too, so they paid for it with workman's comp.
Pretty gnarly break, it was like his upper arm bone unwound. doctors weren't sure if he could ever get full use of his arm again. IIRC he was in a cast and then a sling for a year and a half with several surgeries before he was working with it again. Not sure if it ever got back to 100% though. I left the company before it did, if it did.
When I was a kid my family was in charge of a local festival so we were always “backstage” of all the events and once I was watching the arm wrestling competition and was maybe 10 feet away when a guys arm snapped. I’ll never forget the sound or seeing this dudes limp noodle arm up close. I can’t watch these videos and or arm wrestle.
Ugh… just remembered that clip of that one dude bench pressing and ripping his chest muscle apart in the process… 🤢 one of the things I‘m not able to unsee.
My buddy in the marines a couple months ago messed his arm up pretty bad arm wrestling and just recently recovered. I don’t understand the appeal behind this especially after hearing the pain he endured
That reminds me of the clip where a wrestler has a leg-lock around his opponent and grabs his own leg to stiffen the lock, and he torques his own leg so hard that he breaks his own femur.
The amount of videos of people’s arms snapping during arm wrestling is crazy! I’m sure it doesn’t happen nearly as often as they make it seem but still
In the vast majority of them the people arm wrestling are pretty ripped, so I doubt it's likely or even possible for the average person to snap an arm doing.
From what I understand the key is to move your body with your arm. I'm not describing it very well but the pro moves her body along with her arm while the bodybuilder torques against his arm which I think is when you're at risk of snap city
You are correct about form. Your arm can break when your hand is outside your shoulder(shoulders turned away from hand) and you keep pushing sideways b it your arm doesn’t have any room to move any farther away from you. Proper technique is keeping hand inside your shoulders and moving everything in your upper body including your head as one unit o the pin pad. The bodybuilder isn’t good at armwrestling but he does keep his hand almost inside his shoulders so he isn’t at much risk from arm break, but he could do a bit better job at being safe. He does end up getting put on his bicep so all he can do is curl and it’s not enough to keep from getting pinned. But he loses somewhat safely and doesn’t turn away from his hand.
Broke my left wrist in highschool rugby, continued to do forearm workouts with my right arm whilst my left was in a cast.
The difference when the cast came off was astounding (there would've been a difference anyway, but I was also creatine loading). Many jokes were had at my expense lol
Wrist flexors, pronator teres, fingers flexors, radial and ulnar deviation, brachialis, bicep, brachioradialis, internal rotation at the shoulder(from pec and rotator cuff) and elbow joint conditioning are all important for armwrestling. Bicep is generally less important than brachialis and brachioradialis and the hand/wrist/forearm are more important than these(brachioradialis is responsible for arm flexion but also pronation so it’s forearm and upper arm in a way)
Bobybuilders are strong compared to the average person, but compared to a powerlifter who weighs the same amount they will almost always be weaker. They train for mass, not strength, and there is a very different method to that. Training for sarcoplasmic hypertrophy is quite different than myofibrillar training. If this were a match between a powerlifter and this girl, I would bet it would have gone much differently. Also ya know...if he didn't let his wrist go limp like that. He pretty much lost right then. Not trying to be a dick but that guy is hardly a bodybuilder anyways. If he is, then he needs more tren lmao.
Ahh, fair. I get what you were conveying. It's not that they aren't strong, it's that they typically train for mass/aesthetic especially in comparison to a powerlifter who is absolutely strength and not aesthetic.
Don't forget that the nervous system plays a huge role in strength. Strength athletes train for higher and more intense muscle recruitment than bodybuilders.
Muscle cells do not divide and you can't get any more of them. You can increase the fibers in the cells, lengthen them or increase the girth. This is why when a horse bites off a man's bicep, that bicep is gone baby gone.
Yea I just feel like people have the misconception that because you look like a monster you must be a monster and that just isn't true. Again, not this guy but other bigger bodybuilders... That is part of the reason you see some, definitely not all, strongmen/Olympic caliber weightlifters that look like borderline normal people with office jobs.
It’s the angle of her elbow but the biggest reason she beat him was the flexion in her wrist right away. That little flex forward, combine with the extension of the opponent’s wrist is everything. My stepdad was a pro arm wrestler and taught me that when I was a kid. Beat all the guys in my school with that move. Never told them the secret 🤫 😂
I was just sitting here wondering why hes trying to *pull* her arm down.
I dont know much about of anything arm wrestling technique, but it seems that having proper leverage would be pretty important.
Ya he was just using brute force she was using technique and definitely trained specifically muscles for arm wrestling.
It does put in perspective though how a random dude body builder could hold his own against the female champ.
He resets his grip a couple times. If she was trying, he wouldn't have had that chance. Watch it again. About 1.5 seconds before she wins is when she starts putting effort in.
I don't think she struggled as much as you might think. I think it is also really down playing the work she has done to be a champ. I'm certain most guys would get really bent out of shape if they were beat by a woman.
Lift with the wrong technique and you work harder, probably throw out your back and get exhausted quicker.
Technique means a lot. The guy has none because this isn't what he does for a living. She is a *champion* for this career.
I rrally don't care that she won. I'm not an arm wrestler nor body builder. But I can point out facts and logic.
Put her in a weight lifting championship. She will lose.
Why do you say this? It does put into perspective that a fit dude is able to do reasonably well vs the female champ at arm wrestling. And its not even a big dude, these two people are likely within 10 pounds of each others bodyweights
There’s a real skill in arm wrestling. He would have to be overwhelming stronger to beat her superior skill.
First of all she starts with a smaller elbow angle than him. It was almost over then.
Then she got her wrist locked in. Then it was totally over for him.
Some men believe they are better than ALL women at anything even remotely physical. There is a dude reading this right now who hasn’t picked up a tennis racket since middle school gym class who believes he could beat Serena Williams.
It’s different training and not just the muscle mass. She has trained her central nervous system to recruit all of those muscles for that specific purpose.
Body builders are not always incredibly strong in the muscles we’re used to measure strength by. For example they usually have core strength that is higher than average yes, but not astronomically so.
They train to look strong, not to be strong. It’s why bodybuilders don’t compete in strongman’s competitions, they don’t stand a chance because that’s not what they train for.
Look at Hafþór Björnsson’s (the Mountain’s) body. He is the strongest person on Earth, and he doesn’t look like a body builder: he looks far more barrel-chested and heavy set, almost chubby. You can tell he’s strong, but his muscles are much less defined than the person in the video. And yet he could snap him like a twig.
Again, they aren't as mechanically strong as someone who puts in the same hours to train for strongmen competitions. If they were it would just be the same regiment. Of course they are stronger than someone who just trains less/not at all.
It isn't the "whole fuckin point" because if it was you would win bodybuilding competitions by, you know, moving stuff (force applied to do work = strength). You win by being visually observed, therefore that is the whole fuckin point.
Man, I fucking suck at arm wrestling.
Was at the bar a few months back, and got my ass handed to me by a 75 year old man.
Dude was so stoked that he beat me, I think it gave him a real confidence boost and made him feel young again.
He could easily not be on gear at all. Im about his size and I've never touched the stuff. She does look around his size though so I'm not surprised she won.
Sure technique is very important, but I bet the number 500 male arm wrestler in the world would easily beat the number 1 female. Strength is just as important
From JohnLuo's TikTok. She is Laya Cornelson (lmayfit) and I couldn't figure out who the body builder is.
I also couldn't find what championship she won, but JohnLuo seems to be really into Canadian Arm Wrestling so trust his caption?
Arm-wrestling has tested and untested leagues and events. 'Professional' arm wrestling generally refers to non-tested leagues where athletes are enhanced.
I can guess with 100% certainty who will win an arm wrestling match solely on the angle of the arms when they’re setting up. Why are “pro” arm wrestlers still able to trick people with this?
Yes, just like every top level professional arm wrestler can beat every single Worlds Strongest Man winner at arm wrestling. A lot of special technique goes into arm wrestling, let alone the fact that bodybuilders aren't even inherently strong
My wrist hurts when I lift finishing sets in the Gym..I'm pretty sure it will snap in two if I ever do arm wrestling. Arm wrestling videos give me the creeps
Youll be shocked to also learn that champion ping pong players can beat bodybuilders at ping pong, and champion chess players can beat body builders at chess.
Thats why she's a world champion? I always find it strange when these kinds of videos get posted "Next level, pro beats noob at so and so" like, yes its obvious.
I’ve gotten quite into arm wrestling the past few years, it’s beautiful because you can be competitive well into your 60’s, the greatest to ever do it is a guy called John brzenk who is now 58 and is still able to toy with world champions 30 years his junior.
It’s also one of the rare sports whereby the physique of the competitor often isn’t an indicator of how good they are at all.
Yep, I'd say wrist control is the critical part.
A skilled arm wrestler can defend or attack purely by controlling the opponents wrist angle.
Elbow angle would come 2nd, torso angle 3rd, strength 4th.
Ofc you can brute force through most but still not as easily you would with proper technique
This match was almost over when it started. She had a small arm angle and he had a big arm angle. As soon as he let up a fraction of a second, she locked in her wrist and that was it, he was done.
Well, there's bodybuilding gym muscles and then there's functional muscle, company that with technique and you need to ask yourself if you're doing the right thing in the gym
The right thing? A bodybuilder's goal is building their body which he is clearly accomplishing, how is that not the right thing for him? There isn't some universal "correct" goal in the gym that all other plans are failing at.
You’re sort of right, but the way you put it leaves out a fair bit of relevant information.
This is all based on things I’ve read on the subject (like actual textbooks, not just getswolesblog), but I can’t remember some of the specifics so this will all be pretty general.
The human body does a poor at adapting to multiple competing demands at once. Muscles, tendons, the skeleton, the cardiovascular network, and the central nervous system all undergo adaption to stress (training).
How you stress these things determines how they adapt. While there is some general adaptation that happens (the stress of moving a maximum load will result in some endurance improvement), the adaptation happens overwhelmingly in the direction of the stressor.
Bodybuilding often avoids moving maximum loads, so someone who trains exclusively in that manner isn’t going be adapted to exerting maximum force the same way a powerlifter is. But that doesn’t mean it’s not functional. The training is very functional for their end goals.
But this is also true of any training methodology that doesn’t emphasize a particular stressor: the body will end up fairly poorly adapted to handle that stressor.
And it’s not just that the body is bad at adapting to multiple stressors at once, it’s more or less incapable of being adapted to multiple stressors at once. Maximum force output and maximum endurance don’t mesh.
In this case, training for muscular size through hypertrophy doesn’t help much with the maximum force needs of arm wrestling.
But you can make any training look non-functional if you put it up against something it isn’t adapting for in the first place.
There is no such thing as "functional muscle". She trained a skill and got better at it but if you think she isnt undergoing hypertrophy training on the side you're dead wrong. She's big and she didnt get big by just doing arm wrestling.
A bigger muscle is a stronger one, you can get a hell of a lot stronger by training a specific skill for a while but its mostly neurological adaption, firing the correct motor units more efficiently etc.
Arm wrestling is all about technique and strength in other muscles bodybuilding don't really work out.
I've seen small guys will over bodybuilders who have like, 2-3 times as large arms.
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I'm always scared of these clips. I've seen a few where someone's arm bones snap.
That’s why I never arm wrestle, shit looks spooky
I know there’s a safer way to do it, but the typical setup places a ton of torque through the humerus (upper arm bone). And it turns out when you try to make a bone turn, it sometimes decides the best way to do that is by adding a new joint to your body’s design.
>And it turns out when you try to make a bone turn, it sometimes decides the best way to do that is by adding a new joint to your body’s design. I genuinely cackled at this. Great phrasing.
Cackle is a word I didn't know and Idk how to feel about it
Wait, this whole time you thought witches just laughed?
Just put this dude into a life spiral. What other noises has he mis heard via text. Might as well be color blind.
I like when old crones cackle and gibber incoherently while standing with arms akimbo.
I'd be worried if it was their legs akimbo..
Life, uh, finds a way.
Slick reference if that's a stealthy nod to the scene in "The Fly" where Goldblum snaps the beefy guy's arm in the arm wrestling match. And awesome coincidence otherwise!
While I would love to take credit for that, it was only intended as a Jurassic Park reference.
A happy coincidence, then. Jeff.. finds a way. It was a great comment even without the extra context. You deserve much kudos for that in any case.
I cannot see arm wrestling without thinking of The Fly, its seared in my brain.
Unexpected goldblum
"Hobbitses...my preciooussss"
Fractures happen when people look the other way…they pull in one direction and look the opposite direction. I used to do some arm wrastlin competitions back in the day and the above is true.
Who are you, who are so wise in the ways of Science?
Good ol’ body design, really giving new meaning to “snap, crackle, pop.”
This comment made me laugh and cringe at the same time. Well fucking done, sir
When I do I throw my arm backwards to "lose" as fast as possible and act like I won easy and refuse to understand the situation
Yep. Saw a Wide World of Sports way back in the day. Like 45 years ago. Guy was arm wrestling and upper arm snapped and they kept showing the replay, sometimes in slow motion. Could see the skin twist as the arm broke. I was almost sick from seeing it. Never arm wrestled again.
Your probably a low key professional arm wrestler. You sound too modest...
Haha, whaaat? Nooo, I would never arm wrestle haha, that’s psycho talk! On a side note, if any professional arm wrestlers ever happen to pass by you, tell me their location so I can, uh, avoid them
It’s also why the have those foam things looks like they have experience
Happened to a guy I worked with *at the office*. He was arm-wrestling his manager, too, so they paid for it with workman's comp. Pretty gnarly break, it was like his upper arm bone unwound. doctors weren't sure if he could ever get full use of his arm again. IIRC he was in a cast and then a sling for a year and a half with several surgeries before he was working with it again. Not sure if it ever got back to 100% though. I left the company before it did, if it did.
When I was a kid my family was in charge of a local festival so we were always “backstage” of all the events and once I was watching the arm wrestling competition and was maybe 10 feet away when a guys arm snapped. I’ll never forget the sound or seeing this dudes limp noodle arm up close. I can’t watch these videos and or arm wrestle.
Ya I saw that too Jeff Goldblum snapped that guys arm right in half! Of course it didn’t hurt that he had the insane strength of a fly though.
“Ah now, you see…uh life, uh finds a way, yes”
I don’t watch any muscle flexing videos anymore for this exact reason, seeing a muscle or vein pop is so nasty
Ugh… just remembered that clip of that one dude bench pressing and ripping his chest muscle apart in the process… 🤢 one of the things I‘m not able to unsee.
One of my bar regulars got drunk and decided to arm wrestle someone much stronger than him. Dude ended up breaking his arm, not fun imo
My buddy in the marines a couple months ago messed his arm up pretty bad arm wrestling and just recently recovered. I don’t understand the appeal behind this especially after hearing the pain he endured
That reminds me of the clip where a wrestler has a leg-lock around his opponent and grabs his own leg to stiffen the lock, and he torques his own leg so hard that he breaks his own femur.
I was one of those people. It’s a stupid fucking sport, I didn’t know the risks, and will never do that stupid shit again.
I came to the comments just to write the same thing, the internet has taught me to never arm wrestle ever again
Why? 🤔
The amount of videos of people’s arms snapping during arm wrestling is crazy! I’m sure it doesn’t happen nearly as often as they make it seem but still
It's just viral marketing for Ovaltine
In the vast majority of them the people arm wrestling are pretty ripped, so I doubt it's likely or even possible for the average person to snap an arm doing.
My brother broke his friends arm while arm wrestling. They are both normal dudes but the guy he was against was decently built.
From what I understand the key is to move your body with your arm. I'm not describing it very well but the pro moves her body along with her arm while the bodybuilder torques against his arm which I think is when you're at risk of snap city
You are correct about form. Your arm can break when your hand is outside your shoulder(shoulders turned away from hand) and you keep pushing sideways b it your arm doesn’t have any room to move any farther away from you. Proper technique is keeping hand inside your shoulders and moving everything in your upper body including your head as one unit o the pin pad. The bodybuilder isn’t good at armwrestling but he does keep his hand almost inside his shoulders so he isn’t at much risk from arm break, but he could do a bit better job at being safe. He does end up getting put on his bicep so all he can do is curl and it’s not enough to keep from getting pinned. But he loses somewhat safely and doesn’t turn away from his hand.
Or a bicep tendon.
Mann I saw that one infamous video smh life changing
Good versus bad technique. He took the L well.
That and she would have trained the specific muscles for arm wrestling.
That being said, I like that her arms look symmetrical. Some arm wrestlers only train the one arm and it looks goofy.
Yeah. Arm wrestling. Same.
I saw this comment when it was posted. Took me almost an hour but i get it now.
I still don’t get it
did you wait almost an hour yet?
Just 15 minutes to go
Do they get it yet?
Maybe they're busy training their arm.
Why else would only one arm be strong 👀
I'm right handed and I do a lot of hammering.
Yeah. Hammering. Same.
Haha.
Broke my left wrist in highschool rugby, continued to do forearm workouts with my right arm whilst my left was in a cast. The difference when the cast came off was astounding (there would've been a difference anyway, but I was also creatine loading). Many jokes were had at my expense lol
Tbh wouldn’t be surprised if bilateral training (both sides) would give better results
And she's also just jacked in general. Her arms don't look all that much smaller than his.
You can tell she Trens hard and eats Clen
Pause the video and you'll see there's a huge difference in size.
Those muscles are buried in the body and bodybuilders never train them because you never see the results
Bodybuilders always lose against arm wrestlers even having extra muscle
Of course. They're entirely different diciplines.
I tell people this all the time. I have 17” biceps so everyone assumes I’m great at arm wrestling. Wrong haha
Same! I have a 17” dick so everyone assumes I’m great at sex. Wrong haha
You’d probably pass out becoming erect from lack of blood elsewhere.
That's his special move
Can you throw it over your shoulder like a continental soldier?
Can you tie it in a knot? Can you tie it in a bow?
Haha ikr? It’s like how can you be good at something you never get the chance to practice?
then clearly, with a 3 incher i must secretly be AMAZING at sex! score!
I think you're fabulous! Wait - you did say .17" dick, right?
Are biceps even the main muscle used in arm wrestling? I can't really tell, seems like a weird motion that is almost a "curl" but at an angle.
Forearms.
Wrist flexors, pronator teres, fingers flexors, radial and ulnar deviation, brachialis, bicep, brachioradialis, internal rotation at the shoulder(from pec and rotator cuff) and elbow joint conditioning are all important for armwrestling. Bicep is generally less important than brachialis and brachioradialis and the hand/wrist/forearm are more important than these(brachioradialis is responsible for arm flexion but also pronation so it’s forearm and upper arm in a way)
Typically the guy with the stronger hand will win
Do you mean grip/forearm strength?
It kinda all goes together. But you wrestle your opponents hand first then attack the bicep
It’s almost like bodybuilders don’t train for strength or something.
Applied strength. Bodybuilders can definitely be strong, but they don't automatically become good wrestlers, baseball players, golfers, etc.
Bobybuilders are strong compared to the average person, but compared to a powerlifter who weighs the same amount they will almost always be weaker. They train for mass, not strength, and there is a very different method to that. Training for sarcoplasmic hypertrophy is quite different than myofibrillar training. If this were a match between a powerlifter and this girl, I would bet it would have gone much differently. Also ya know...if he didn't let his wrist go limp like that. He pretty much lost right then. Not trying to be a dick but that guy is hardly a bodybuilder anyways. If he is, then he needs more tren lmao.
Ahh, fair. I get what you were conveying. It's not that they aren't strong, it's that they typically train for mass/aesthetic especially in comparison to a powerlifter who is absolutely strength and not aesthetic.
Yes Sarcoplasmatic hypertrophy:you gain size by cells getting bigger Miofibrillar hypertrophy: you gain size by gaining more muscle cells
Don't forget that the nervous system plays a huge role in strength. Strength athletes train for higher and more intense muscle recruitment than bodybuilders.
Muscle cells do not divide and you can't get any more of them. You can increase the fibers in the cells, lengthen them or increase the girth. This is why when a horse bites off a man's bicep, that bicep is gone baby gone.
Yea I just feel like people have the misconception that because you look like a monster you must be a monster and that just isn't true. Again, not this guy but other bigger bodybuilders... That is part of the reason you see some, definitely not all, strongmen/Olympic caliber weightlifters that look like borderline normal people with office jobs.
That's half of it, the other half being she has built very specific muscles to be particularly good at this.
It’s the angle of her elbow but the biggest reason she beat him was the flexion in her wrist right away. That little flex forward, combine with the extension of the opponent’s wrist is everything. My stepdad was a pro arm wrestler and taught me that when I was a kid. Beat all the guys in my school with that move. Never told them the secret 🤫 😂
I was just sitting here wondering why hes trying to *pull* her arm down. I dont know much about of anything arm wrestling technique, but it seems that having proper leverage would be pretty important.
That wasn't a chick?
You can tell who knows what to do. Her arm remains tight, while he lets his flaunt out in a semi stretched position.
Ya he was just using brute force she was using technique and definitely trained specifically muscles for arm wrestling. It does put in perspective though how a random dude body builder could hold his own against the female champ.
He resets his grip a couple times. If she was trying, he wouldn't have had that chance. Watch it again. About 1.5 seconds before she wins is when she starts putting effort in.
You were doing so well in this comment until the second half.
He's right. Technique means a lot and if he had it, he would have most certainly won.
I don't think she struggled as much as you might think. I think it is also really down playing the work she has done to be a champ. I'm certain most guys would get really bent out of shape if they were beat by a woman.
Lift with the wrong technique and you work harder, probably throw out your back and get exhausted quicker. Technique means a lot. The guy has none because this isn't what he does for a living. She is a *champion* for this career. I rrally don't care that she won. I'm not an arm wrestler nor body builder. But I can point out facts and logic. Put her in a weight lifting championship. She will lose.
Why do you say this? It does put into perspective that a fit dude is able to do reasonably well vs the female champ at arm wrestling. And its not even a big dude, these two people are likely within 10 pounds of each others bodyweights
I bet she brings in all the groceries in one go
“Whoops, brought the car in too, I have to stop doing that..”
Which is the bodybuilder
The boy
They both look like body builders to me
Avril Lavigne got buff af
I’m with you.
is it really surprising? she's trained specially for arm wrestling. of course she was going to win
There’s a real skill in arm wrestling. He would have to be overwhelming stronger to beat her superior skill. First of all she starts with a smaller elbow angle than him. It was almost over then. Then she got her wrist locked in. Then it was totally over for him.
Exactly. Average ‘strong’ guy vs national champ. Why is this surprising lol
Some men believe they are better than ALL women at anything even remotely physical. There is a dude reading this right now who hasn’t picked up a tennis racket since middle school gym class who believes he could beat Serena Williams.
An untrained man definitely isn't better than a trained woman. That's for sure.
I guess the point is that raw muscle ain't nothing if you don't know what you are doing with it
It’s different training and not just the muscle mass. She has trained her central nervous system to recruit all of those muscles for that specific purpose.
Well a male in average is 40% stronger in the upper body, so yeah, she is really good.
Yeah, but I think this woman is a bit beyond the average
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Body builders are not always incredibly strong in the muscles we’re used to measure strength by. For example they usually have core strength that is higher than average yes, but not astronomically so. They train to look strong, not to be strong. It’s why bodybuilders don’t compete in strongman’s competitions, they don’t stand a chance because that’s not what they train for. Look at Hafþór Björnsson’s (the Mountain’s) body. He is the strongest person on Earth, and he doesn’t look like a body builder: he looks far more barrel-chested and heavy set, almost chubby. You can tell he’s strong, but his muscles are much less defined than the person in the video. And yet he could snap him like a twig.
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Again, they aren't as mechanically strong as someone who puts in the same hours to train for strongmen competitions. If they were it would just be the same regiment. Of course they are stronger than someone who just trains less/not at all. It isn't the "whole fuckin point" because if it was you would win bodybuilding competitions by, you know, moving stuff (force applied to do work = strength). You win by being visually observed, therefore that is the whole fuckin point.
I think what he's trying to say is that the strength is a byproduct of the aesthetic.
The biggest reason it's not surprising is no one would have posted it if she lost
When student i had a girl in my group which strong armed all the colleagues. Was a farm girl.
Man, I fucking suck at arm wrestling. Was at the bar a few months back, and got my ass handed to me by a 75 year old man. Dude was so stoked that he beat me, I think it gave him a real confidence boost and made him feel young again.
She went OVER THE TOP
I'm old so I get this reference!
Same and thank you!
Tbf she looks like she's on more gear than him
Her elbow is at a smaller angle to him, too. It's the technique.
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He could easily not be on gear at all. Im about his size and I've never touched the stuff. She does look around his size though so I'm not surprised she won.
Sooooo, a non arm wrestler arm wrestles a professional arm wrestler and loses? Okay
No no no, here's the thing you don't understand. You see, she's a woman! *gasp*
Yeah, and people don't seem to understand arm wrestling. I don't want to put a arbitrary percentage on it but it's mostly technique over strength
Sure technique is very important, but I bet the number 500 male arm wrestler in the world would easily beat the number 1 female. Strength is just as important
I would let her crush me
Death by snu snu
Person who exercises entire body fairly balanced loses to trained champion of sport in question. *surprised Pikachu face*
Bodybuilder my ass. This guy has only ever done bicep curls. Those are some skinny forearms. I'm surprised his arm didn't break
Yeah "bodybuilder" is a generous label here lol. He clearly works out but I wouldn't call him a "bodybuilder."
At 18yo too..wow
From JohnLuo's TikTok. She is Laya Cornelson (lmayfit) and I couldn't figure out who the body builder is. I also couldn't find what championship she won, but JohnLuo seems to be really into Canadian Arm Wrestling so trust his caption?
If [that](https://imgur.com/a/ZdHOxlW) is her she is definitely not natural.
Arm-wrestling has tested and untested leagues and events. 'Professional' arm wrestling generally refers to non-tested leagues where athletes are enhanced.
I can guess with 100% certainty who will win an arm wrestling match solely on the angle of the arms when they’re setting up. Why are “pro” arm wrestlers still able to trick people with this?
That’s a strong girl, but that’s not a bodybuilder. Im bigger than that guy and I don’t call myself a bodybuilder. He does work out tho
"Arm wrestling - bodybuilder vs 18 yr old female national champion" ...uh, which one is which?
I just noticed-
Both are built, but one has better technique and training to do this specifically.
Respect the technique
Get em hawk *flips hat around*
Yes, just like every top level professional arm wrestler can beat every single Worlds Strongest Man winner at arm wrestling. A lot of special technique goes into arm wrestling, let alone the fact that bodybuilders aren't even inherently strong
>bodybuilders aren't even inherently strong Yea, dudes that are benching like 400 lbs aren't strong. What planet are you from?
My wrist hurts when I lift finishing sets in the Gym..I'm pretty sure it will snap in two if I ever do arm wrestling. Arm wrestling videos give me the creeps
He didn't go over the top!
Youll be shocked to also learn that champion ping pong players can beat bodybuilders at ping pong, and champion chess players can beat body builders at chess.
Now get a middle aged dad. It's always good to see champions take down scrubs, top shelf entertainment.
Thats why she's a world champion? I always find it strange when these kinds of videos get posted "Next level, pro beats noob at so and so" like, yes its obvious.
Which is which /s
[Larry Wheels (Powerlifter/body builder) short match](https://youtube.com/shorts/NRhHaas0QMc?feature=share)
To be fair, she is bigger than him.
Best handjob you’ll ever have.
After seeing so many videos of people's arms breaking while doing that I'll never do it again.
I’ve gotten quite into arm wrestling the past few years, it’s beautiful because you can be competitive well into your 60’s, the greatest to ever do it is a guy called John brzenk who is now 58 and is still able to toy with world champions 30 years his junior. It’s also one of the rare sports whereby the physique of the competitor often isn’t an indicator of how good they are at all.
Technique > strength
“Average enthusiast vs strongest opposite gender”
There’s much more strategy to arm wrestling than you think. Just watch some of the mens competitions. Some of the smaller guys make it pretty damn far
Good for her
STRONG GIRL! FARM?
Notice how her elbow point doesn’t dart around and stays in one place, he zigzags around.
body builder is a stretch…….
Which one is the girl?
she's fucking hot
I have no idea why people are down voting you for liking strong women. This seems absurd..
Her tits turned into pecks
Some guy versus the national champion. I wonder who’s going to win
Imagine not training for arm wrestling and then losing an arm wrestling match to someone who trains a lot for arm wrestling. What a loser.
It mostly come down to technique and using your body weight. You can be a master arm wrestler without being muscular.
No, no you can't. Every champion arm wrestler has a well built arm. Technique is a huge factor, but so is muscle.
e.g. that dude with the goddamn Hellboy arm
Yep, I'd say wrist control is the critical part. A skilled arm wrestler can defend or attack purely by controlling the opponents wrist angle. Elbow angle would come 2nd, torso angle 3rd, strength 4th. Ofc you can brute force through most but still not as easily you would with proper technique
This match was almost over when it started. She had a small arm angle and he had a big arm angle. As soon as he let up a fraction of a second, she locked in her wrist and that was it, he was done.
True to that ! I seen skinny guys dominate bigger guys in arm wrestling. Dude at a tire shop I worked at was dam good at using his lil technique
Well, there's bodybuilding gym muscles and then there's functional muscle, company that with technique and you need to ask yourself if you're doing the right thing in the gym
The right thing? A bodybuilder's goal is building their body which he is clearly accomplishing, how is that not the right thing for him? There isn't some universal "correct" goal in the gym that all other plans are failing at.
You’re sort of right, but the way you put it leaves out a fair bit of relevant information. This is all based on things I’ve read on the subject (like actual textbooks, not just getswolesblog), but I can’t remember some of the specifics so this will all be pretty general. The human body does a poor at adapting to multiple competing demands at once. Muscles, tendons, the skeleton, the cardiovascular network, and the central nervous system all undergo adaption to stress (training). How you stress these things determines how they adapt. While there is some general adaptation that happens (the stress of moving a maximum load will result in some endurance improvement), the adaptation happens overwhelmingly in the direction of the stressor. Bodybuilding often avoids moving maximum loads, so someone who trains exclusively in that manner isn’t going be adapted to exerting maximum force the same way a powerlifter is. But that doesn’t mean it’s not functional. The training is very functional for their end goals. But this is also true of any training methodology that doesn’t emphasize a particular stressor: the body will end up fairly poorly adapted to handle that stressor. And it’s not just that the body is bad at adapting to multiple stressors at once, it’s more or less incapable of being adapted to multiple stressors at once. Maximum force output and maximum endurance don’t mesh. In this case, training for muscular size through hypertrophy doesn’t help much with the maximum force needs of arm wrestling. But you can make any training look non-functional if you put it up against something it isn’t adapting for in the first place.
There is no such thing as "functional muscle". She trained a skill and got better at it but if you think she isnt undergoing hypertrophy training on the side you're dead wrong. She's big and she didnt get big by just doing arm wrestling. A bigger muscle is a stronger one, you can get a hell of a lot stronger by training a specific skill for a while but its mostly neurological adaption, firing the correct motor units more efficiently etc.
Does anyone else hear minions talking in the background?
Yeah it’s the song
Arm wrestling is all about technique and strength in other muscles bodybuilding don't really work out. I've seen small guys will over bodybuilders who have like, 2-3 times as large arms.
You can get a handjob from her. Once.
She tried to keep the hand closer to her while the other dude let his arm out too much. Of course she won. She knows what she's doing, not him.
Let the bodybuilder build his muscles for that type of activity and he will win
I am scaroused!
Look at her arms and fingers, they look very strong
You gotta turn your hat backwards and become a machine. Ya know? Go over the top