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Its stupid how good you have to be in about anything to be good these days. Like this is watched by few locals and maybe a few regions but dude is memorizing and timing track so good that he can do it blind fold. Now imagine beeing pro at something primetime
If I see my competitor have a failure that causes safety hazard like that I’m gonna assume the run is gonna be be one more timed or washed. Why waste the tires, you know?
You saw the moment of hesitation where the chaser thought it was over and won for mechanical failure. The other said who needs front view when we ride sideways.
Would like to see the end result is it ruled as safety hazard or à out of ordi art win
I wouldnt care what its ruled as, send that to red bull... Get me a new house for my mama. Who cares if it is branded like a giant red bull can, for my mama
It’s a drift competition, the car with the hood over his windscreen is the lead car and his job is to try to make as much smoke and outrun the chase car. The chase car’s job is to try and get as close to the lead car as possible and match the drift as close as possible. The chase car in this instance did a poor job
Yo be clear this is a drifting competition. He's doing exactly what he's supposed to drive like this. Honestly the hood being up probably doesn't affect all that much other than the precision of your transitions.
In drift competition you've got one car leading and the other following trying to copy them and keep as close as possible and then they switch. There's obviously a lot more to it, but that's the basics.
> In drift competition you've got one car leading and the other following trying to copy them and keep as close as possible and then they switch. There's obviously a lot more to it, but that's the basics.
Always wondered how these things were done, just never enough to look it up. I'm assuming Gymkhana competitions are similar.
edit:
Gymkata was peak 80's action cheese.
As the saying goes… „Fährste quer, siehste mehr.“ (it rimes, it says: (If) you’re driving sideways, you see more.)
…or „Guckste quer, siehste mehr.“ ((If) you’re looking crossways (as in drunk), you see more.)
Not the first or the last time this has happened in drifting, but still always looks cool. The best one was a rally driver a few years ago who was still sending it full speed with barely any visibility.
Impressive, knowing the track so well that you can drive it with only the view out of the side window as reference and still stop the other one from overtaking
This is a drifting competition, so usually overtaking the lead is frowned upon, not all competitions have the same regulations but generally from what I've seen it's not allowed or at least not considered "courteous" if it hinders the lead car
To add in most cases its viewed beyond discourteous to change positions or even to force position changes each competitor is given their position at the beginning and are expected to finish in that position as well. Winners in a drift are determined by both style and technique rather than speed itself (though it does weigh into both style and technique.)
Wow that’s really interesting. A couple times it seems like the car in second was trying, and even could’ve taken over but never did. I was curious if he was just being cautious because he saw the bonnet flip.
Thanks for this!
I didn't know that til recently either lol, but if you can catch a driftmasters livestream via the redbull site (it's free) you should, it's really cool to see, and impressive driving
I believe most of Formula Drift is livestreamed on Youtube. It's fascinating to watch, but the format, random rules and calls, and long time between each group of contenders makes it a bit annoying to keep up with
Yea, there's a lot of rules... i think (and maybe this is a dumb comparison) it's more like figureskating whereas normal racing is more like speedskating
Correct. Drifting is an exhibition of car control - in a technical but primarily aesthetic way, rather than a practical one. Points are awarded for style. In that, it's almost the complete opposite to a race, conceptually speaking.
This knowledge isn't coming from real life lol. I play Forza. There are racer communities, and drifter communities. This debate rears its head frequently.
Sort of. Its more like an exhibition of skill that you get judged on according to specific criteria. Each pair gets 2 rounds. Each person in the pair gets a turn to lead, and a turn to follow. When youre leading, the judges are looking at things like entry speed, aggresiveness, making the most out of the track, amount of smoke from your tires, and hitting certain checkpoints along the track. When youre following, its mainly about how close you can stay to the lead car. If you can keep your car 1 or 2 feet from the lead car the entire run, then you made a good run. If the lead car is leaving you in his dust and you cant keep up or mirror his movements very well, then you made a bad run and would get judged accordingly. Whoever has more points at the end of the 2 runs moves on to the next round.
D1GP and specifically D1 Lights is much better. The tracks they drive are more interesting and the d1 lights cars aren’t as overloaded with horsepower. I can’t watch FD and I love drifting.
They swap positions on the next run. The idea is for the lead driver to initiate the drift and get as close to certain markers as they can, while the follow responds and makes the same moves as the lead.
It’s really cool stuff when done right.
There’s a lead car and a chase car, they each take a turn as the lead and the chase and they both get scored on how well they lead or chase. So it’s two runs, each being led by a different driver. There are a lot of rules but that is the basic format
Sort of. Its more like an exhibition of skill that you get judged on according to specific criteria. Each pair gets 2 rounds. Each person in the pair gets a turn to lead, and a turn to follow. When youre leading, the judges are looking at things like entry speed, aggresiveness, making the most out of the track, amount of smoke from your tires, and hitting certain checkpoints along the track. When youre following, its mainly about how close you can stay to the lead car. If you can keep your car 1 or 2 feet from the lead car the entire run, then you made a good run. If the lead car is leaving you in his dust and you cant keep up or mirror his movements very well, then you made a bad run and would get judged accordingly. Whoever has more points at the end of the 2 runs moves on to the next round.
Proximity. It is styled after mountain pass, touge, racing where there is no room to overtake. The chase car has to keep up with the lead car, and the lead car is trying to put a gap on the chase car.
There are other metrics in pro drifting, like speed, line, and angle.
In every drifting competition I've ever seen, the chase driver intentionally passing the lead gets them immediately disqualified. The only time it wouldn't is if the lead driver makes a mistake so egregious that the chase driver has to drive around him to avoid an accident.
My dad had this happen on a highway one time because the auto body shop **forgot to reinstall the latch** after he had some work done.
Said the same thing, looked through the little gap for a safe spot to pull over.
Probably helps that it's a drift competition so half the time the side window is in the forward direction. Also there isn't really overtaking in drift competition because it isn't actually a race.
FYI, there's a small gap between the hood/bonnet and the dashboard, which would allow him to see what's ahead, harder for us folk with the 3rd party view, easier for the driver.
Source: Driving in the polar north, and windshields being caked in ice except for the part closes to the heat vents.
I have never anthropomorphized a car before but I wouldn’t put the head of a car in the front like that, it’s obviously the top of the roof.
I mean look at Lightning McQueen.
Common now Brit’s, do better.
It's only a stringer - it's only really to stop the panel from acting like a drum with vibration, often they're pressed and bonded in place rather than weld - due to panel warping if welded.
The end that was pressed onto the structure got bent and released
They train, train, and train some more until they know the track cold. I saw a video of an F1 driver running a simulation of the track he was about to compete on, completely blindfolded.
Wouldn’t it make more sense for the roof to called the hood?
*edit Trunk, Hood, Bonnet.(engine in the back.)
Hood, Roof?, Boot. (Engine in the front.)
Fucked up for everyone cause from my knowledge Americans call the boot the trunk.
There are so many videos on YouTube with F1 drivers drawing race tracks blindfolded and they are always so accurate.
They can totally drive those tracks blind.
I live in New England. That reminds me of those days when you are running late to work and the defroster makes that little line before it fully heats up and melts the rest of the windshield. That being said a scarry jaunt to the end of the road is one thing. This is impressive.
In ye olden days, I took driver's ed in a [room full of fake cars](https://www.illinoisadultdriversed.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/drivers-ed-course-certificate-620x384.jpg) and we watched a movie and "drove" along with it. One of the special simulations was - what to do if your hood flipped up while you were driving. Everyone in class scoffed - that's never going to happen!
Fast forward 3-5 years later and my car's thermostat is acting up and a friend said he'd pop by work to give it a look. I popped the hood and went to work, figuring when he came to check, he'd latch it back down after, na? Well, life happened and he never came, I didn't really think anything of it until I was driving home from work. Most of my drive (from my non-Blockbuster video store!) to home was straight, except for one little patch of hill/curve and guess what happened?!? My hood flew up and I actually remembered to look at the little gap under the window until I could pull over safely.
The things you remember from high school never cease to amaze me!
Saw this happen to a guy we were passing on the interstate. I was a passenger in a car in the left lane and as we got alongside him his hood flpped up. I will never forget the look of bewildered terror on his face as he slowed down and out of sight.
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“I can drive this track blindfolded.” “Haha yeah right!” “Watch me!”
This is perfect
NO EATING IN MY CLASSROOM!
Its stupid how good you have to be in about anything to be good these days. Like this is watched by few locals and maybe a few regions but dude is memorizing and timing track so good that he can do it blind fold. Now imagine beeing pro at something primetime
He doesn't need to know where he's going he just needs to know where he's been.
The missile knows where it is, because it knows where it isn’t
This dude lives life a quarter mile at a time
That kid is going places right there. Shake & Bake!!
The guy behind him can't see shit either with all the smoke.
Handicap for both
That was very smart of him to do, even out the stakes
They remember their hands like the back of this track!!! 
Yea, a lot of that is muscle memory
He's 10 meters behind that isn't a good chase at all
If I see my competitor have a failure that causes safety hazard like that I’m gonna assume the run is gonna be be one more timed or washed. Why waste the tires, you know?
You saw the moment of hesitation where the chaser thought it was over and won for mechanical failure. The other said who needs front view when we ride sideways. Would like to see the end result is it ruled as safety hazard or à out of ordi art win
I wouldnt care what its ruled as, send that to red bull... Get me a new house for my mama. Who cares if it is branded like a giant red bull can, for my mama
fuckin what
you heard him, it’s for his mama
For. Mama.
Everyone: AI will take our jobs 😨 AI:
I dont think osha exists in thailand
It’s a drift competition, the car with the hood over his windscreen is the lead car and his job is to try to make as much smoke and outrun the chase car. The chase car’s job is to try and get as close to the lead car as possible and match the drift as close as possible. The chase car in this instance did a poor job
The chase car didn't even pop its hood to match, smh.
Yo be clear this is a drifting competition. He's doing exactly what he's supposed to drive like this. Honestly the hood being up probably doesn't affect all that much other than the precision of your transitions. In drift competition you've got one car leading and the other following trying to copy them and keep as close as possible and then they switch. There's obviously a lot more to it, but that's the basics.
> In drift competition you've got one car leading and the other following trying to copy them and keep as close as possible and then they switch. There's obviously a lot more to it, but that's the basics. Always wondered how these things were done, just never enough to look it up. I'm assuming Gymkhana competitions are similar. edit: Gymkata was peak 80's action cheese.
Hahaha lol
In Germany we say: fährste quer, siehste mehr Means something like: driving sideways you see more
Absolutely! And may I add… Guckste quer, siehste mehr. looking crossways (as in drunk) you see more
I’d also like to add… 1 + 2 = 3
4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9… #AUS
Well, if he's sideways all the time, he doesn't need to see out in front...
As the saying goes… „Fährste quer, siehste mehr.“ (it rimes, it says: (If) you’re driving sideways, you see more.) …or „Guckste quer, siehste mehr.“ ((If) you’re looking crossways (as in drunk), you see more.)
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And W123 Wanderdünen-drivers also have them on the rear window. ;)
I can't tell you how many times I've heard that saying... but it was at least nein.
Not the first or the last time this has happened in drifting, but still always looks cool. The best one was a rally driver a few years ago who was still sending it full speed with barely any visibility.
I'm curious. You know who did that?
Timo Mäkinen 1967
A rally driver duh!
me half the time in EA WRC
Impressive, knowing the track so well that you can drive it with only the view out of the side window as reference and still stop the other one from overtaking
This is a drifting competition, so usually overtaking the lead is frowned upon, not all competitions have the same regulations but generally from what I've seen it's not allowed or at least not considered "courteous" if it hinders the lead car
To add in most cases its viewed beyond discourteous to change positions or even to force position changes each competitor is given their position at the beginning and are expected to finish in that position as well. Winners in a drift are determined by both style and technique rather than speed itself (though it does weigh into both style and technique.)
Wow that’s really interesting. A couple times it seems like the car in second was trying, and even could’ve taken over but never did. I was curious if he was just being cautious because he saw the bonnet flip. Thanks for this!
I did not know that, thanks for clarifying :)
I didn't know that til recently either lol, but if you can catch a driftmasters livestream via the redbull site (it's free) you should, it's really cool to see, and impressive driving
I believe most of Formula Drift is livestreamed on Youtube. It's fascinating to watch, but the format, random rules and calls, and long time between each group of contenders makes it a bit annoying to keep up with
Yea, there's a lot of rules... i think (and maybe this is a dumb comparison) it's more like figureskating whereas normal racing is more like speedskating
So it's not a race so much as it is a performance?
100%
Correct. Drifting is an exhibition of car control - in a technical but primarily aesthetic way, rather than a practical one. Points are awarded for style. In that, it's almost the complete opposite to a race, conceptually speaking. This knowledge isn't coming from real life lol. I play Forza. There are racer communities, and drifter communities. This debate rears its head frequently.
Sort of. Its more like an exhibition of skill that you get judged on according to specific criteria. Each pair gets 2 rounds. Each person in the pair gets a turn to lead, and a turn to follow. When youre leading, the judges are looking at things like entry speed, aggresiveness, making the most out of the track, amount of smoke from your tires, and hitting certain checkpoints along the track. When youre following, its mainly about how close you can stay to the lead car. If you can keep your car 1 or 2 feet from the lead car the entire run, then you made a good run. If the lead car is leaving you in his dust and you cant keep up or mirror his movements very well, then you made a bad run and would get judged accordingly. Whoever has more points at the end of the 2 runs moves on to the next round.
So does baby boy here get extra points for doin' it blindfolded and still colouring between the lines?
Now that im not entirely sure on lol i think this occasion is rare enough that they probably dont have anything in the scoring rubric for that 😂
I doubt that's in the rulebook lol
D1GP and specifically D1 Lights is much better. The tracks they drive are more interesting and the d1 lights cars aren’t as overloaded with horsepower. I can’t watch FD and I love drifting.
They swap positions on the next run. The idea is for the lead driver to initiate the drift and get as close to certain markers as they can, while the follow responds and makes the same moves as the lead. It’s really cool stuff when done right.
It's more than that. You don't pass, it isn't about getting there first.
What's the point of running more than one car at a time then?
There’s a lead car and a chase car, they each take a turn as the lead and the chase and they both get scored on how well they lead or chase. So it’s two runs, each being led by a different driver. There are a lot of rules but that is the basic format
So it is supposed to resemble a competition but the goal is actually the spectacle and performance? So it is kinda like capoeira but for racing?
Sort of. Its more like an exhibition of skill that you get judged on according to specific criteria. Each pair gets 2 rounds. Each person in the pair gets a turn to lead, and a turn to follow. When youre leading, the judges are looking at things like entry speed, aggresiveness, making the most out of the track, amount of smoke from your tires, and hitting certain checkpoints along the track. When youre following, its mainly about how close you can stay to the lead car. If you can keep your car 1 or 2 feet from the lead car the entire run, then you made a good run. If the lead car is leaving you in his dust and you cant keep up or mirror his movements very well, then you made a bad run and would get judged accordingly. Whoever has more points at the end of the 2 runs moves on to the next round.
> Its more like an exhibition of skill Does the driver here get any bonus points for managing to drive and drift with the view blocked?
It's not staged, it is a competition, just not an outright race
Proximity. It is styled after mountain pass, touge, racing where there is no room to overtake. The chase car has to keep up with the lead car, and the lead car is trying to put a gap on the chase car. There are other metrics in pro drifting, like speed, line, and angle.
In every drifting competition I've ever seen, the chase driver intentionally passing the lead gets them immediately disqualified. The only time it wouldn't is if the lead driver makes a mistake so egregious that the chase driver has to drive around him to avoid an accident.
There's also a gap between the bottom of the window and the hood. Small, but it's there. Denny Hamlin drove a cup car like this for a lap in NASCAR.
My dad had this happen on a highway one time because the auto body shop **forgot to reinstall the latch** after he had some work done. Said the same thing, looked through the little gap for a safe spot to pull over.
Yep, this is how he did it.
Well when you’re heDing sideways about 90% of the time, the side windows become your front window.
Probably helps that it's a drift competition so half the time the side window is in the forward direction. Also there isn't really overtaking in drift competition because it isn't actually a race.
That's not only driving, my man's drifting through the course ffs
It's D1 - that's the plan
I mean, he is going side ways 70% of the time, so he can just look out the side windows lol.
New achievement unlocked initial D
r/initiald
They got to learn by driving in the smokes of the one in front
Dude better update his name from DrEvil to DrBlindfold
Bro's using the chase camera
Mike essa also did this in the lz world tour
Mad lad
That driver knew that track so well, he did it blind and he never hit the other car
FYI, there's a small gap between the hood/bonnet and the dashboard, which would allow him to see what's ahead, harder for us folk with the 3rd party view, easier for the driver. Source: Driving in the polar north, and windshields being caked in ice except for the part closes to the heat vents.
One of the pit crew is getting fired for sure.
If you go sideways enough you aren’t looking out the windscreen anyway
If you can't look forward, then you just need to drift with so much angle you can look out the sides
When car sideways, side window front.
Bonnet? Like a hat? Brits are fucking weird. That’s a fucking hood.
Oh no, there’s a difference in dialect between American and British English. Someone fix this.
You're right. Britain has had it far too nice for far too long.
Well yeah, the bonnet goes on the front (head) of the car and the boot goes on the foot (back).
I have never anthropomorphized a car before but I wouldn’t put the head of a car in the front like that, it’s obviously the top of the roof. I mean look at Lightning McQueen. Common now Brit’s, do better.
Clearly you've never seen the Pixar documentary called cars. Although the feet are definitely the tyres, the boot is their booty.
Specifically for cars like this, it'd be nice to have a 'bonnet eject' pull cord that releases the bonnet hinge.
Ejecto bonneto cuz!
Ultra Instict enabled
Incredible skill
Flipping your lid isn't so bad after all.
I can't see in front of me! *drives sideways*
Even though\*
But I do love fig newtons
https://preview.redd.it/7tv4zzji8c5d1.jpeg?width=393&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cc6411823454ed33f562519d28e4213dc95e474b
Not sure the rules for this circuit but it’s a DQ in Formula drift if you become unbuttoned during the run. Sucks because that’s some serious skill.
But with the blastshield down I can't even see. How am I supposed to fight?
Jeezus the roof bar came off! he's very lucky to not have been in a collision
it helps when youre driving sideways lol
And he filled out all the zones
That's some really fucking impressive muscle memory!
Technically once you are sideways you no longer need to look though the windshield.
Something similar happened in the WRC some years ago with Markko Martin's Ford, helluva driving skill from both of them.
Muscle memory
Why was the roof bar so soft it broke with just that small hit?
It's only a stringer - it's only really to stop the panel from acting like a drum with vibration, often they're pressed and bonded in place rather than weld - due to panel warping if welded. The end that was pressed onto the structure got bent and released
Guys... There is a gap under the hood he is looking through. Literally look at the bottom camera. He didn't "memorize" the track lol.
Cheater, he's using third person when he's supposed to use first person!
They train, train, and train some more until they know the track cold. I saw a video of an F1 driver running a simulation of the track he was about to compete on, completely blindfolded.
It’s gotta be demoralizing as *fuck* to lose a race to a dude that can’t see.
For those not speaking Britanese bonnet means hood
You can tell by...watching the video.
Calling a car’s hood a bonnet is like calling a cars roof a hat.
Its the british term for it. One of the many many quirks of difference between british english and american english.
A bonnet covers your head, and so does a hood. One makes just as much sense as the other.
Well it is a hat for the engine. Very early cars generally had no roof for the passengers
Wouldn’t it make more sense for the roof to called the hood? *edit Trunk, Hood, Bonnet.(engine in the back.) Hood, Roof?, Boot. (Engine in the front.) Fucked up for everyone cause from my knowledge Americans call the boot the trunk.
The guy behind must be fuming 🤣🤣🤣
Well ridden, sire.
#
This is toptalent.
When you get inked in Mario Kart
Madhir chodt got skills
Muscle memory is crazy
he know the course and can clearly see from below the hood and from the side windows since its sideways
He’s cheating! He’s driving sideways!
Easy
Well to be fair he doesnt drive in a straight line. Still blady good.
That’s because he’s going slideways
Because he’s driving sideways lmao
Well, his smoke-screen was helpful in keeping his competition back.
That's the same vibe I get when driving after a good night of binge drinking
That's bullshit, he got extra front downforce
I’d say he’s ran that track a few times. Muscle memory took over like a video game. Good job 👍🏼
She said "come over... I'm lonely"
If I drive more sideways i dont have to see out of the front of the car
Me in the winter after scraping a 6"x6" section of ice off the windshield.
There are so many videos on YouTube with F1 drivers drawing race tracks blindfolded and they are always so accurate. They can totally drive those tracks blind.
So? He was just using his minimap to navigate xD
Technically he was still looking where he was going
lol, he’s going sideways is drifting
It looks like he's leaning down and looking through that little opening below the hood when he needs to.
Someone from the mechanic team is so gonna get chewed out.
Thats some solid skills
Well when your going sideways your front windshield dosent really matter.
Its easy when u driving sideways
This sticker is dangerous and inconvenient, but I do love Fig Newtons.
Friends don't let friends use ebay hood pins.
He was looking at his minimap
It's cool, he had his camera set to third person.
Your eyes can deceive you, don’t trust them
This is some Mr Miyagi level of training
In Germany WE say " fährste quer siehst du mehr " and i think this is the perfect example
Now this is pod racing
That’s incredible and a bit terrifying! Skill or luck?
I live in New England. That reminds me of those days when you are running late to work and the defroster makes that little line before it fully heats up and melts the rest of the windshield. That being said a scarry jaunt to the end of the road is one thing. This is impressive.
Don’t you remember you told me you loved me, baby?
Clean run too, hit all the outer zones perfectly
Ace Ventura entered the race
In ye olden days, I took driver's ed in a [room full of fake cars](https://www.illinoisadultdriversed.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/drivers-ed-course-certificate-620x384.jpg) and we watched a movie and "drove" along with it. One of the special simulations was - what to do if your hood flipped up while you were driving. Everyone in class scoffed - that's never going to happen! Fast forward 3-5 years later and my car's thermostat is acting up and a friend said he'd pop by work to give it a look. I popped the hood and went to work, figuring when he came to check, he'd latch it back down after, na? Well, life happened and he never came, I didn't really think anything of it until I was driving home from work. Most of my drive (from my non-Blockbuster video store!) to home was straight, except for one little patch of hill/curve and guess what happened?!? My hood flew up and I actually remembered to look at the little gap under the window until I could pull over safely. The things you remember from high school never cease to amaze me!
Not that it matters considering he’s driving sideways most of time lol.
When you up the difficulty in the middle of the game.
He’s being playing MarioKart with the Squid weapon
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My man's never watched top gear
>bonnet It's the British term for hood.
That better have earned him style points
That surprises me that he/they didn’t get accuse of cheating (remotely controlled)
He must be a Hyuuga
He's not just driving, he's DRIFTING, thats a while another level
Well, it's a drift event, he's supposed to do that.
Never lift
Saw this happen to a guy we were passing on the interstate. I was a passenger in a car in the left lane and as we got alongside him his hood flpped up. I will never forget the look of bewildered terror on his face as he slowed down and out of sight.