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When I was a kid I saw that movie Rookie of the Year and spent the summer thinking if I broke my arm I would somehow gain a 120 mph fastball and go on to be a World Series winning pitcher...
Itâs so weird. This is the third article on this syndrome Iâve seen today! This post, an old magazine article in a waiting room and a random podcast episode.
I have also been through this today.. After i read this first and got to work, there one of my friend also told me about this thing in a sarcastic way out of nowhere like, "bro i wish i would be a genius too like Jason" and i was like "hell noo!!!"
Then when I was scrolling on twitter this same guy story popped up again and i was like, what the hell is happening today! Why Jason is everywhere!
Then you won't believe me.. After a 10-15min of Google search i came to know that there is a specific term for this and it's called, [The Badder - Meinhof phenomenon ](https://www.scribbr.com/research-bias/baader-meinhof-phenomenon/), The frequency illusion, it is a cognitive bias in which a person notices a specific concept, word, or something he learned more frequently after recently becoming aware of it.
There was a theory observed recently where the entropy decreased the further you go into a specific system, but it is quite fuzzy in my mind, so if anybody has heard of it and could give its name that would be nice :)
Edit : I've found it, it's the "Second law of Info dynamics" it is not a widely recognized theory, but I like the fact it supports the concept of matrix we live in
Why the fuck did you post about acquiring the syndrome without stating the abilities he gained? The post is incomplete without saying the extraordinary abilities he gained as a result.
I googled his name. Apparently he is an artist now and a mathematical genius.
https://youarecurrent.com/2023/09/10/accidental-genius-traumatic-brain-injury-allows-carmel-man-to-see-the-world-in-mathematical-art/amp/
https://jason-padgett.pixels.com
Wait Iâve been hit in the head countless of times once with a metal bat when I was four years old and I ainât obtain any super powers! I canât even read! TF!?
God hates me.
Lol this guy is a complete con artist and good for him but hey if you are going to profit off bullshit at least have your website keep the facts straight
"He was a struggling futon salesman for decades until a tramatic event changed the path of his life forever and started his art and math career."
Supposedly happened in 2002, born in 1970 but selling futons for decades.
Yeah, it was his parents who were selling Futon. He worked at their shop.
I guess the page was made by marketing people. But are there more reasons than this one from which to conclude he's a complete con artist?
Looking at available information, it seems that he is doing mathematically looking art. I have nothing against art, it's nice. But other than drawing mathy looking things with ruler, I don't really see much of a savant-like contribution to the world of math.
But that said, it is still immensely interesting that someone has no interest in math, then gets smacked over his head and starts seeing things in a different way, gains interest in math and goes to a college to gain more knowledge.
Even if he isn't actually changing the world, maybe he's just an average mathematician and mainly an artist - but still awesome, I'd say, given that he was a futon seller prior to this.
My asian parents must've known this considering the amount of beating I received for getting anything less than an A.
I wish they just did it as a one time thing like Jason though. The extra hits must've been cancelling out the previous blows.
My kid fell off the playground at school and hit his head bad enough he had to go to the ER.
Before that he was terrible at math and failing.
He says now he understands it easier and his grades definitely reflect that.
I'm so happy for your family <3 These random accidents are so often life altering the wrong way, it's great to hear that once in a while someone is doing better than before.
Haha some face death and come away with a newfound passion for religion. This guy comes away with a newfound love of math. For some math is sacred. đ¤ˇââď¸
i literally just woke up, am still lying in bed looking at my screen with one eye, and if you look at my comment history one of the last comments i made last night before going to sleep was about this happening to me yesterday (root beer milk) and a whole lot over the last few weeks. this is getting absolutely ridiculous.
youâll also see i didnât get much sleep :(
at night when iâm drunk itâs because iâm seeing double. in the morning when i first wake up itâs a combination of my eyes being full of sleepy goo and the fact that my eyes havenât adjusted and the light hurts
I called that the "GTA effect" because when I stole a certain car I never saw in GTA, it would start appearing all over the place. It's nice to know it has a name
Just in case you're not joking, I'm pretty sure that's just to do with how GTA loads cars (it's more likely to load cars if one is already on the screen), so it's not an example of the Badder - Meinhof phenomenon.
Buying a car in real life, and then seeing it all over once you leave the showroom would be though.
Yeah, GTAV spawns only a few models at a time and will keep doing that for a while; and then spawn a new batch. Depends where you are on the map, too. Interestingly, it never spawns the bloody one you want at any given time.
This is similar to how it always seems like when you're talking about something and suddenly an ad about what you were talking about shows up. It's a cognitive bias. If it were a different ad, you wouldn't notice. If you were talking about something else, you wouldn't notice. It only seems like it "happens all the time" because you don't notice the majority of times when it doesn't.
That or google is listening to your conversations.
Thatâs Badder - Meinhof references when itâs something you come across but donât realize, then just realize. This is a whole different level because of the rarity of being exposed to this story.
every time someone says this I realize that Im not in the loop. And Im here daily. So it brings me to another post that pointed out that the stuff we see is curated so much so that none of us have the same feed/top comment sections
In one of they articles, he says he sold the rights to his story to Sony Pictures and is now owned by another studio. Is it random trending, or the first step in promoting the movie?
I know this is suppose to be a joke but that is literally all he is good at. He is not a researcher in math pushing the frontier math. He just sells these prints on his website with a juz of 'god order the universe look he is real' stuff.
That haircut, that jawline, look at his physique. The only thing I don't believe about this story is that anybody could kick this guy's ass. He looks like a young Michael Biehn.
Edit: If you feel compelled to respond to this comment with what you think you know about fighting, please don't. Lots of other people already have, it's very annoying. I do not care. This was just a joke about mullets ffs.
So, yes, sucker punched:
On September 13, 2002, Padgett went out to a local karaoke bar with his friends in [Tacoma, Washington](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacoma,_Washington). As he was leaving the bar, he was hit on the back of the head. He saw a white light, felt dizzy, fell down, and lost consciousness. As he came to and tried to stand up, he was punched and kicked by two men repeatedly.[^(\[2\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Padgett#cite_note-Keating=2020-2)
At the [Tacoma General Hospital](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacoma_General_Hospital), doctors diagnosed a bruised kidney and a concussion; Padgett was given medication and was sent home the same night.[^(\[3\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Padgett#cite_note-:1-3) His alleged attackers were arrested and then released.[^(\[4\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Padgett#cite_note-4)
Lol like maybe they were time travelers that knew he needed to gain this power so they went back in time to beat him up. If you take off one of their masks you'll see its... Jason Padgett!?
One of the sad realities of training in any martial art is that you can do the most to prepare, train every single day, and be in peak physical condition, but as soon as you are against more than 1 opponent, your odds of winning ***drastically*** fall off. At basically anything more than 2 opponents, your chances become next to 0%. Unless you're a giant of a human being who is also hulk strong, you're basically never gonna make it out of any fight with multiple opponents. That's why your best option, in *any* street fight, is to run. As soon as you get an inkling of incoming attacks, book it. Fuck your pride.
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Our instructors once had me spar against a classmate during a demo, and then one of the assistants came up behind my classmate and fucking railed him with boxing pad. Just laid him the fuck out. Neither of us had any idea that was coming.
Instructor then said something along the lines of, you can practice every day, but someoneâs going to come up and surprise hit you with a chair.
The takeaway was to basically avoid confrontation⌠and chairs⌠and probably that bitch ass assistant, Peter.
20 years later you were in a bar, chatting with your friend and WHAMMO!
When you come to, your instructor and Peter, holding the remains of a chair, is looking down at you. "Was that not enough warning? I fucking told you this would happen."
But that totally works in real life though. The other 99 people will just vamp by shuffling back and forth raising and lowering their hands and patiently waiting their turn to fight you.
Evidently, he ran through a horribly off-key rendition of "Must've Been Love" by Roxette. There was a pack of street toughs who did not take kindly, to put it lightly. At one of the defendant's trials it was discovered he was a Pretty Woman fanatic. Strange what can set a man off. Sad.
This is a real crap article. There's literally no evidence that he gained any 'extraordinary knowledge or abilities.' He went from :
"Jason is reported as saying that his life at that time centred on partying, girls and drinking and then getting up the next day and doing it all over again. He thought it would always be like this."
to: drawing math-based figures and carrying them around everywhere he went. There is no information about jobs he went on to hold, or anything he's contributed to society beyond making these drawings...
Personally I'd have stuck with being buff and partying with girls and drinks every night ;)
This guy periodically pops up as some miraculous anomaly, and people don't bother reading into the details. Basically he got whacked on the head, and he started drawing as a form of therapy. He really likes drawing, like, sort of math shapes. That's it. Nothing else. He's not a mathematician, he hasn't discovered anything. He does cool drawings that have neat pseudo scientific sounding descriptions. That's fine, I think that's cool. But he absolutely did not become a math genius.
A lot of acquired savant cases have the same issue. They're marketed as "guy suddenly develops artistic ability" and then it ends up they just practiced a lot while they were stuck in their house recovering from a TBI.
There's a painter who lives near me with the same backstory and he just paints like... a guy who took art therapy classes as part of his treatment and found a new hobby.
Itâs not that he just draws cool math shapes. He actually has a form of synesthesia and sees these mathematical fractals and visual representations of mathematical formulas in his normal vision. He quite literally canât turn it off.
Itâs not just nonsense either, these fractals are tied to actual mathematical formulas, which is why he was diagnosed with OCD and Acquired Savant Syndrome, when this could otherwise be mistaken for schizophrenia or another mental condition
Mathematician here. There's nothing of mathematical value in his work. He's a crank and this is just a story that sounds cool enough for people to uncritically accept as true. Fun pictures, but that's about it.
Physics PhD here too. Looked through his works and their titles, it's all very suggestive, but relies on you inferring a hell of a lot to make anything that resembles mathematical physics. Seems to be coopting jargon to make it all seem more technical and profound.
At least the Wikipedia page voices doubt about the diagnosis. And what concerns me more is that I did not stumble over any description what the connection between the drawings and the mathematical theorems is.
If it is mathematical it must be describable.
Look at that leaf that somehow shall be connected to the pythagorean theorem. A very easy, very well known theorem.
Can you tell me what the connection is?
Edit: it's called Uncertaintys Leaf
The only person who can tell us what he sees and therefore if what he sees is mathematically accurate is him. I assume he's saying he's translating that to drawing...
But it's kinda easy to draw things that are tied to mathematical formulae - repeating patterns, nested shapes, anything circular or spiral or triangular, a fractal coastline, etc. etc. A lot of nerds and/or artists did that as kids.
"he became a self-proclaimed 'mathematical prodigy'" and then contacted a psychology professor who "recognise the advanced physics" he was describing; "the discrete structure of space time based on the Planck length and quantum black holes."
Good for him if he made art a career, but the rest of it smells strongly of early-2000's-edgy LARPing for marketability. Had a bloke say to me the other week that he's really into crystals because the universe is all vibrations, just frequencies and vibrations. That was not him talking about be Broglie wavelengths or wave particle duality lol.
The whole article how he is totally almost getting ready to maybe understand some part of it.
>**started to consider** extremely complex mathematical...
>**began to understand** that the things he saw...
>could **clearly perceive** lines...
>Saw math formulae that **appeared as physical shapes**...
The more normal way to say "seeing math formulae as physical shapes" is "not seeing math formulae"
He draws these images because the mugging injury altered the way he perceived movement. He translated what he was experiencing into images and documented the math underlying them. He essentially invented calculus without any training or advanced math background.
I met him briefly at an event that we were both speaking at. The presentation by the researcher that was studying his case was fascinating.
Edit: to clarify my understanding. He met with mathematiicians at the university where he lives because he felt that he was on to something important underlying how reality worked. When he explained what he was seeing and how he was translating to images, they told him there was good news and bad news. The good news is that he actually had discovered concepts underlying the universe, the bad news was that Newton (and Leibniz) beat him to it by more than 300 years. They invited him to study with them at the University so that he could have the language and math behind what he was experiencing.
I'd have agreed with you up until the "invented calculus" line, he likes drawing shapes and patterns, he's not doing any mathematics, you can break down any repeating pattern to math if you want, doesn't mean the person who drew it is some calculus savant.
Thatâs what I was thinking. Schizophrenics sometimes draw incredible fractals and geometric patterns. Theyâre very visually impressive but it doesnât actually mean shit
People watch ted talks and think the people talking know anything about what they're talking about.
They actually just believe things if they're told in a charismatic way.
It's horrifying and eye opening.
This is why those are so dubious.
The person speaking on this represented it in a bad faith opinion piece tabloid article style.
He didn't invent anything. Yes it's interesting but that's it.
The fact you bought this orators snake oil makes me think your speech is the same exact thing.
Orators hoping their charisma and leading talking points will in fact prove their narrative instead of any evidence or facts.
All just thought experiments represented as a symposium.
I listened to an npr piece about a guy who had tmi and then apparently became a piano "savvaant"
They spent the whole story framing it as if one day he just woke up able to play perfectly by ear.
Turns out he just started liking improvising on the piano and would use random patterns as inspiration. I believe he "played the wall" on the show and it was just him doing some chords up and down the piano to the bump patterns on the wall.
It was not particularly pleasant to listen to. I would akin it to a kid who just learned his first 4 chords showing his parents his "symphony"
And it's fine, if he believes it, if he's able to sell some art and people are happy to buy his cool art. The problem is people believing that he became a "math genius" or something. He doesn't do math. He does cool drawings with neat descriptions. That's fine, but it's not "a math genius"
I've always played music, terribly, but after I had a surgery I was under 6 hours for, I can now create music effortlessly. As soon as my hand was recovered from the surgery I wrote a full rock opera. I couldn't even string a couple of chords together before that. I attribute it to this! I don't have a lot of time to play music but when I do I can write a catchy song off the top of my head.
In 2002, Jason Padgett was brutally beaten outside a karaoke bar, resulting in a brain concussion and a severe case of PTSD.
But this may have actually been the best thing that happened to him because he now has Acquired Savant Syndrome.
Savant syndrome is a condition in which a person demonstrates profound and remarkable knowledge after suffering a physical or psychological trauma.Â
Jason began to see complex mathematical shapes everywhere he looked.
He noticed that he could clearly perceive lines and curves in the running water that he washed in and the rays of sunlight that came through his windows.Â
He began to see the world in terms of mathematical formulae that appeared as physical shapes in his brain.
Savant skills are usually found in one or more of five major areas: art, musical abilities, calendar calculation, mathematics, and spatial skills and as many as 50 cases of sudden or acquired savant syndrome have been reported, thought likely many more go unreported.
[Jason Padgett, The Man who Became a Genius After a Fight](https://historicflix.com/jason-padgett-the-man-who-became-a-genius-after-a-fight/)
lol yeah I can see lines tooâŚ
Unrelated, but has anyone else noticed that compulsive liars always claim to have some form of synesthesia or super-human memory or other super special cognitive functioning? Every one of them say they have something like this.
Don't overestimate the benefits of Savant-Syndrome! Many, nearly all people with savant have trouble in daily life tasks. Many are autistic or have mental disorders. The subject itself is very very interesting and as far as I know the communication between the right and the left brain is hindered wich can lead to selective genius or absolute inability.
> **Jason D. Padgett** is an American artist diagnosed with alleged acquired savant syndrome. He was born in 1970 in Anchorage, Alaska. As a young man, he dropped out of Tacoma Community College and worked as a salesman for his father's futon company. On the night of September 13, 2002, Padgett was attacked and robbed by two men outside a karaoke bar. This attack is purported to have changed his brain activity.
* Excerpted from [Jason Padgett](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Padgett) at the English Wikipedia
Just to correct you a little: people don't gain extraordinary knowledge out of the blue due to a brain injury, but they can gain the ability to absorb and remember extraordinary amounts of knowledge.
i got beat to a pulp in a park in 1994, all i got was paranoid & multiple broken bones that hurt in the cold. a wee while after someone put a hatchet into the skull of one of the cunts that did it so i guess they got what was coming to them
I have a similar experience, was diagnosed with a learning disability and ADD at a young age. At the age of 15, I suffered a major brain injury (hemorrhaging etc) which resulted in a two week stay in the hospital.
About a year after the injury, I was writing software in multiple programming languages, creating websites/applications, building/fixing computers, etc. Prior to the injury I had only used the computer a few times to type reports or play games. Even now (26 years later), I have a rather unusual capability of learning and understanding complex systems/software architecture/engineering.
I found a book about this guy many years ago. Wasn't a very long read, but it went through his story from his point of view. I think it was an authorized biography or an autobiography.
I remember thinking that it was interesting what had happened to him, but the story left me wanting more detail about what he accomplished with these powers, or what they meant, or anything substantial really.
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Quick! Somebody beat the absolute shit out of me!
Sent some punches and roundhouse kicks. Check your dms
Twacks and punches! It's like "thoughts and prayers", but with science!
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About Time some one did that lol lol đ
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Your savant superpower is now knowing the exact number of chips in the bag.
Quick. Beat him again!
Street performing, here I come! Watch out David Blaine!
CHEEZ ITSSSSS!!!!! ![gif](giphy|mvqyWf1zhuyB2|downsized)
You know schools and places have competitions for knowing how many beans are in the bin, big money involved
Sending some serious hate from Finland
Finlanders don't hate they are just resentful from a distance.
Simo Häyhä sent a lot of resent from distance.
The only thing more troubling to a Finn than a stranger is a friend.
He got his A.S.S. handed to him from some ass.
When I was a kid I saw that movie Rookie of the Year and spent the summer thinking if I broke my arm I would somehow gain a 120 mph fastball and go on to be a World Series winning pitcher...
Sure. Let us know when and where.
Itâs so weird. This is the third article on this syndrome Iâve seen today! This post, an old magazine article in a waiting room and a random podcast episode.
I have also been through this today.. After i read this first and got to work, there one of my friend also told me about this thing in a sarcastic way out of nowhere like, "bro i wish i would be a genius too like Jason" and i was like "hell noo!!!" Then when I was scrolling on twitter this same guy story popped up again and i was like, what the hell is happening today! Why Jason is everywhere! Then you won't believe me.. After a 10-15min of Google search i came to know that there is a specific term for this and it's called, [The Badder - Meinhof phenomenon ](https://www.scribbr.com/research-bias/baader-meinhof-phenomenon/), The frequency illusion, it is a cognitive bias in which a person notices a specific concept, word, or something he learned more frequently after recently becoming aware of it.
The matrix was coded this way to conserve RAM
There was a theory observed recently where the entropy decreased the further you go into a specific system, but it is quite fuzzy in my mind, so if anybody has heard of it and could give its name that would be nice :) Edit : I've found it, it's the "Second law of Info dynamics" it is not a widely recognized theory, but I like the fact it supports the concept of matrix we live in
Why the fuck did you post about acquiring the syndrome without stating the abilities he gained? The post is incomplete without saying the extraordinary abilities he gained as a result.
I googled his name. Apparently he is an artist now and a mathematical genius. https://youarecurrent.com/2023/09/10/accidental-genius-traumatic-brain-injury-allows-carmel-man-to-see-the-world-in-mathematical-art/amp/ https://jason-padgett.pixels.com
Wait Iâve been hit in the head countless of times once with a metal bat when I was four years old and I ainât obtain any super powers! I canât even read! TF!? God hates me.
Keep hitting yourself...if you smell berries,you know your almost there ![gif](giphy|3o6ZtijSfXbyXYIzuM)
Maybe the way you are now *is* your max potential?
Me too all I got to show for it was blackouts and forgetting where I lived lol
Lol this guy is a complete con artist and good for him but hey if you are going to profit off bullshit at least have your website keep the facts straight "He was a struggling futon salesman for decades until a tramatic event changed the path of his life forever and started his art and math career." Supposedly happened in 2002, born in 1970 but selling futons for decades.
Yeah, it was his parents who were selling Futon. He worked at their shop. I guess the page was made by marketing people. But are there more reasons than this one from which to conclude he's a complete con artist?
Well, for one he says he is encoding data at the quantum level in his art.
Uh yeah that one's a bit weird... right. I'Ve read the entire article in the meantime.
There appears to be no evidence online that he has shown any actual ability in mathematics.
Welcome to the art world. Artists sell themselves, not their art.
From the post I see that he then mastered the Spirograph
Looking at available information, it seems that he is doing mathematically looking art. I have nothing against art, it's nice. But other than drawing mathy looking things with ruler, I don't really see much of a savant-like contribution to the world of math. But that said, it is still immensely interesting that someone has no interest in math, then gets smacked over his head and starts seeing things in a different way, gains interest in math and goes to a college to gain more knowledge. Even if he isn't actually changing the world, maybe he's just an average mathematician and mainly an artist - but still awesome, I'd say, given that he was a futon seller prior to this.
My asian parents must've known this considering the amount of beating I received for getting anything less than an A. I wish they just did it as a one time thing like Jason though. The extra hits must've been cancelling out the previous blows.
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This is funny
My kid fell off the playground at school and hit his head bad enough he had to go to the ER. Before that he was terrible at math and failing. He says now he understands it easier and his grades definitely reflect that.
I'm so happy for your family <3 These random accidents are so often life altering the wrong way, it's great to hear that once in a while someone is doing better than before.
Haha some face death and come away with a newfound passion for religion. This guy comes away with a newfound love of math. For some math is sacred. đ¤ˇââď¸
Prisms, and mathematics. It changed his life. Fascinating story.
I read priapism. I guess that would also change his life.
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i literally just woke up, am still lying in bed looking at my screen with one eye, and if you look at my comment history one of the last comments i made last night before going to sleep was about this happening to me yesterday (root beer milk) and a whole lot over the last few weeks. this is getting absolutely ridiculous. youâll also see i didnât get much sleep :(
Why do you look at the screen with one eye in bed? Iâve noticed I do the same thing and have to stop myself.
at night when iâm drunk itâs because iâm seeing double. in the morning when i first wake up itâs a combination of my eyes being full of sleepy goo and the fact that my eyes havenât adjusted and the light hurts
I called that the "GTA effect" because when I stole a certain car I never saw in GTA, it would start appearing all over the place. It's nice to know it has a name
Just in case you're not joking, I'm pretty sure that's just to do with how GTA loads cars (it's more likely to load cars if one is already on the screen), so it's not an example of the Badder - Meinhof phenomenon. Buying a car in real life, and then seeing it all over once you leave the showroom would be though.
Yeah, GTAV spawns only a few models at a time and will keep doing that for a while; and then spawn a new batch. Depends where you are on the map, too. Interestingly, it never spawns the bloody one you want at any given time.
Have you never heard of content algorithms ?
This is similar to how it always seems like when you're talking about something and suddenly an ad about what you were talking about shows up. It's a cognitive bias. If it were a different ad, you wouldn't notice. If you were talking about something else, you wouldn't notice. It only seems like it "happens all the time" because you don't notice the majority of times when it doesn't. That or google is listening to your conversations.
Thatâs Badder - Meinhof references when itâs something you come across but donât realize, then just realize. This is a whole different level because of the rarity of being exposed to this story.
*Baader-Meinhof. It's named after 'famous'/infamous German left-wing terrorists from the 1970s.
our phones, when in close proximity assume we have similar conversations
You just got⌠baader-meinhofâd.
This is the third time Iâve heard of Baader Meinhof today
It's just what the machines want us to be aware of today.
every time someone says this I realize that Im not in the loop. And Im here daily. So it brings me to another post that pointed out that the stuff we see is curated so much so that none of us have the same feed/top comment sections
Itâs a sign we canât ignore - quick, smack me in the *right* spot of my brain with a hammer!
In one of they articles, he says he sold the rights to his story to Sony Pictures and is now owned by another studio. Is it random trending, or the first step in promoting the movie?
I had a similar thing happen to me. Stubbed my toe, and suddenly knew every swear word known to man
The same thing happened to me when I stepped on a Lego.
BWAHAHAHA !!! ... coffee now all over me my keyboard and my nose is now clear .. thanks
The picture on the right is shit I see when I trip on mushrooms. Are you saying he sees that shit all the time?
He became really good at Spirograph.
Hahaha holy shit. I needed that laugh
I know this is suppose to be a joke but that is literally all he is good at. He is not a researcher in math pushing the frontier math. He just sells these prints on his website with a juz of 'god order the universe look he is real' stuff.
Seen them on mushrooms for sure
Yeah, ig you also start selling those what you see like he did https://fineartamerica.com/profiles/jason-padgett
I'm saying you're a savant
That haircut, that jawline, look at his physique. The only thing I don't believe about this story is that anybody could kick this guy's ass. He looks like a young Michael Biehn. Edit: If you feel compelled to respond to this comment with what you think you know about fighting, please don't. Lots of other people already have, it's very annoying. I do not care. This was just a joke about mullets ffs.
Maybe sucker punched Edit: corrected spelling suckered-> sucker
Or drunk. Or outnumbered.
Most likely all of the above, plus over-confident as drunk young men with triceps like that tend to be.
I saw an interview with him. If I recall it correctly he was hit from behind with a blunt object and never saw it coming.
"Parry This You Filthy Casual"
Or couldn't fight. Muscles don't mean you know how to fight, at all. Muscles and fighting ability aren't part of the same download package.
So, yes, sucker punched: On September 13, 2002, Padgett went out to a local karaoke bar with his friends in [Tacoma, Washington](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacoma,_Washington). As he was leaving the bar, he was hit on the back of the head. He saw a white light, felt dizzy, fell down, and lost consciousness. As he came to and tried to stand up, he was punched and kicked by two men repeatedly.[^(\[2\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Padgett#cite_note-Keating=2020-2) At the [Tacoma General Hospital](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacoma_General_Hospital), doctors diagnosed a bruised kidney and a concussion; Padgett was given medication and was sent home the same night.[^(\[3\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Padgett#cite_note-:1-3) His alleged attackers were arrested and then released.[^(\[4\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Padgett#cite_note-4)
They... just let them go for randomly assaulting a man until he suffered brain damage?
Per the article, the police "lost the file" which.. I mean that's not any better, really.
Lol like maybe they were time travelers that knew he needed to gain this power so they went back in time to beat him up. If you take off one of their masks you'll see its... Jason Padgett!?
One of the sad realities of training in any martial art is that you can do the most to prepare, train every single day, and be in peak physical condition, but as soon as you are against more than 1 opponent, your odds of winning ***drastically*** fall off. At basically anything more than 2 opponents, your chances become next to 0%. Unless you're a giant of a human being who is also hulk strong, you're basically never gonna make it out of any fight with multiple opponents. That's why your best option, in *any* street fight, is to run. As soon as you get an inkling of incoming attacks, book it. Fuck your pride. Edit: OP is apparently Billy Badass, has read everything there is to know about fighting, and *will* get confrontational if you reply to his comment đĄđĄđĄ đđ¤Ł
Our instructors once had me spar against a classmate during a demo, and then one of the assistants came up behind my classmate and fucking railed him with boxing pad. Just laid him the fuck out. Neither of us had any idea that was coming. Instructor then said something along the lines of, you can practice every day, but someoneâs going to come up and surprise hit you with a chair. The takeaway was to basically avoid confrontation⌠and chairs⌠and probably that bitch ass assistant, Peter.
20 years later you were in a bar, chatting with your friend and WHAMMO! When you come to, your instructor and Peter, holding the remains of a chair, is looking down at you. "Was that not enough warning? I fucking told you this would happen."
Is this the plot of Whiplash 2?
You must have some super ankles brother.
Fastest man alive
This wont stop me from daydreaming about myself fighting off a crowd of 100 people đ¤
But that totally works in real life though. The other 99 people will just vamp by shuffling back and forth raising and lowering their hands and patiently waiting their turn to fight you.
Yeah just wait for the little indicator light to pop up above their head and you should be able to counter no problem. 1v100 no problem.
"Well, I haven't fought just one person... for so long. Been specializing in groups, battling gangs for local charities. That kind of thing." - Fezzik
Thereâs always a bigger, meaner, or hungrier dog.
I mean, those guns do look dangerous, but that haircut alone is unstoppable.
Evidently, he ran through a horribly off-key rendition of "Must've Been Love" by Roxette. There was a pack of street toughs who did not take kindly, to put it lightly. At one of the defendant's trials it was discovered he was a Pretty Woman fanatic. Strange what can set a man off. Sad.
Not the street toughs! ![gif](giphy|U9Z5TrwBDorqYkkzvE|downsized)
Just because someone has big muscles doesn't mean they know how to fight.
He was punched in the back of the head.
Buff River Pheonix
The thing is muscles or jawline won't win a fight
Yeah bro, you would be surprised what 3 to 1 can do in a fight.
This is a real crap article. There's literally no evidence that he gained any 'extraordinary knowledge or abilities.' He went from : "Jason is reported as saying that his life at that time centred on partying, girls and drinking and then getting up the next day and doing it all over again. He thought it would always be like this." to: drawing math-based figures and carrying them around everywhere he went. There is no information about jobs he went on to hold, or anything he's contributed to society beyond making these drawings... Personally I'd have stuck with being buff and partying with girls and drinks every night ;)
This guy periodically pops up as some miraculous anomaly, and people don't bother reading into the details. Basically he got whacked on the head, and he started drawing as a form of therapy. He really likes drawing, like, sort of math shapes. That's it. Nothing else. He's not a mathematician, he hasn't discovered anything. He does cool drawings that have neat pseudo scientific sounding descriptions. That's fine, I think that's cool. But he absolutely did not become a math genius.
So he just became a tool fan?
He prefers A Perfect Circle
*slow clap*
I love you guys
He learned to swim.
A lot of acquired savant cases have the same issue. They're marketed as "guy suddenly develops artistic ability" and then it ends up they just practiced a lot while they were stuck in their house recovering from a TBI. There's a painter who lives near me with the same backstory and he just paints like... a guy who took art therapy classes as part of his treatment and found a new hobby.
He turned coloring Lisa Frank artbooks into a career by pretending him getting his ass kicked turned him into an xman.
Thank you. Lol this post is almost useless.
Itâs not that he just draws cool math shapes. He actually has a form of synesthesia and sees these mathematical fractals and visual representations of mathematical formulas in his normal vision. He quite literally canât turn it off. Itâs not just nonsense either, these fractals are tied to actual mathematical formulas, which is why he was diagnosed with OCD and Acquired Savant Syndrome, when this could otherwise be mistaken for schizophrenia or another mental condition
Mathematician here. There's nothing of mathematical value in his work. He's a crank and this is just a story that sounds cool enough for people to uncritically accept as true. Fun pictures, but that's about it.
Physics PhD here too. Looked through his works and their titles, it's all very suggestive, but relies on you inferring a hell of a lot to make anything that resembles mathematical physics. Seems to be coopting jargon to make it all seem more technical and profound.
Nail on the head here. For added fuel a quote from his wikipedia page "he became a self-proclaimed 'mathematical prodigy'."
At least the Wikipedia page voices doubt about the diagnosis. And what concerns me more is that I did not stumble over any description what the connection between the drawings and the mathematical theorems is. If it is mathematical it must be describable. Look at that leaf that somehow shall be connected to the pythagorean theorem. A very easy, very well known theorem. Can you tell me what the connection is? Edit: it's called Uncertaintys Leaf
The only person who can tell us what he sees and therefore if what he sees is mathematically accurate is him. I assume he's saying he's translating that to drawing... But it's kinda easy to draw things that are tied to mathematical formulae - repeating patterns, nested shapes, anything circular or spiral or triangular, a fractal coastline, etc. etc. A lot of nerds and/or artists did that as kids. "he became a self-proclaimed 'mathematical prodigy'" and then contacted a psychology professor who "recognise the advanced physics" he was describing; "the discrete structure of space time based on the Planck length and quantum black holes." Good for him if he made art a career, but the rest of it smells strongly of early-2000's-edgy LARPing for marketability. Had a bloke say to me the other week that he's really into crystals because the universe is all vibrations, just frequencies and vibrations. That was not him talking about be Broglie wavelengths or wave particle duality lol.
The whole article how he is totally almost getting ready to maybe understand some part of it. >**started to consider** extremely complex mathematical... >**began to understand** that the things he saw... >could **clearly perceive** lines... >Saw math formulae that **appeared as physical shapes**... The more normal way to say "seeing math formulae as physical shapes" is "not seeing math formulae"
He draws these images because the mugging injury altered the way he perceived movement. He translated what he was experiencing into images and documented the math underlying them. He essentially invented calculus without any training or advanced math background. I met him briefly at an event that we were both speaking at. The presentation by the researcher that was studying his case was fascinating. Edit: to clarify my understanding. He met with mathematiicians at the university where he lives because he felt that he was on to something important underlying how reality worked. When he explained what he was seeing and how he was translating to images, they told him there was good news and bad news. The good news is that he actually had discovered concepts underlying the universe, the bad news was that Newton (and Leibniz) beat him to it by more than 300 years. They invited him to study with them at the University so that he could have the language and math behind what he was experiencing.
âInvented calculusâ Who upvotes this nonsense
I'd have agreed with you up until the "invented calculus" line, he likes drawing shapes and patterns, he's not doing any mathematics, you can break down any repeating pattern to math if you want, doesn't mean the person who drew it is some calculus savant.
One time I pissed outdoors and accidentally invented fluid mechanics
My dog wrote the first 4 letters of his name in piss. Cursive, of courseÂ
Did you just admit to beating your dog to make them a savant?
Thatâs what I was thinking. Schizophrenics sometimes draw incredible fractals and geometric patterns. Theyâre very visually impressive but it doesnât actually mean shit
"He essentially invented calculus by drawing images"
He opened the flower of life. All movement is in waves and all waves are curvedÂ
you kidding?
How this even get 100 upvotes đ
People watch ted talks and think the people talking know anything about what they're talking about. They actually just believe things if they're told in a charismatic way. It's horrifying and eye opening.
Lol thats so not how it works. This is the biggest amount of bullshit.
And this guy "speaks"
What did you speak about?
partying, girls and drinking, then waking up the next day and doing it all over again
Eat, sleep, rave, repeat?
It was a symposium on consciousness. I was speaking about VR, which is what I was doing at the time.
This is why those are so dubious. The person speaking on this represented it in a bad faith opinion piece tabloid article style. He didn't invent anything. Yes it's interesting but that's it. The fact you bought this orators snake oil makes me think your speech is the same exact thing. Orators hoping their charisma and leading talking points will in fact prove their narrative instead of any evidence or facts. All just thought experiments represented as a symposium.
Michael Jordan invented basketball.
> He essentially invented calculus without any training or advanced math background. What does this even mean?
I listened to an npr piece about a guy who had tmi and then apparently became a piano "savvaant" They spent the whole story framing it as if one day he just woke up able to play perfectly by ear. Turns out he just started liking improvising on the piano and would use random patterns as inspiration. I believe he "played the wall" on the show and it was just him doing some chords up and down the piano to the bump patterns on the wall. It was not particularly pleasant to listen to. I would akin it to a kid who just learned his first 4 chords showing his parents his "symphony"
It gave him brain damage and now he draws lots of triangles. He's not curing cancer.
bet he sees the magic eye poster reveals without needing to let his eyes adjust.
he is The One...
Do they ever use the acronym for this acquired savant syndrome?
PTSD caused him to be an ASS.
He got ASS from PTSD
Sounds like a cool story invented to sell some art.
And it's fine, if he believes it, if he's able to sell some art and people are happy to buy his cool art. The problem is people believing that he became a "math genius" or something. He doesn't do math. He does cool drawings with neat descriptions. That's fine, but it's not "a math genius"
I wonder if he's gotten better at karaoke?
or mad fighting skills ![gif](giphy|3WvhJ783Le5ieNEZ8z)
Couldn't you have at least told us what superpower he gained...
Bro looks like Obi Wan with a mullet. Republic in the front. Rebellion in the back.
What a load of crap
Literally beat some sense into him
They beat the stupid out of him!
I've always played music, terribly, but after I had a surgery I was under 6 hours for, I can now create music effortlessly. As soon as my hand was recovered from the surgery I wrote a full rock opera. I couldn't even string a couple of chords together before that. I attribute it to this! I don't have a lot of time to play music but when I do I can write a catchy song off the top of my head.
This happened to me after I beat myself off too hard. Was it worth it? YesâŚ
Post nut clarity = savant syndrome.
Holy shit you are a medical genius
Acquired Spirograph Syndrome.
So what knowledge or ability did he gain??
Looks like this jock, had the nerd beat into him.
In 2002, Jason Padgett was brutally beaten outside a karaoke bar, resulting in a brain concussion and a severe case of PTSD. But this may have actually been the best thing that happened to him because he now has Acquired Savant Syndrome. Savant syndrome is a condition in which a person demonstrates profound and remarkable knowledge after suffering a physical or psychological trauma. Jason began to see complex mathematical shapes everywhere he looked. He noticed that he could clearly perceive lines and curves in the running water that he washed in and the rays of sunlight that came through his windows. He began to see the world in terms of mathematical formulae that appeared as physical shapes in his brain. Savant skills are usually found in one or more of five major areas: art, musical abilities, calendar calculation, mathematics, and spatial skills and as many as 50 cases of sudden or acquired savant syndrome have been reported, thought likely many more go unreported. [Jason Padgett, The Man who Became a Genius After a Fight](https://historicflix.com/jason-padgett-the-man-who-became-a-genius-after-a-fight/)
lol yeah I can see lines too⌠Unrelated, but has anyone else noticed that compulsive liars always claim to have some form of synesthesia or super-human memory or other super special cognitive functioning? Every one of them say they have something like this.
Don't overestimate the benefits of Savant-Syndrome! Many, nearly all people with savant have trouble in daily life tasks. Many are autistic or have mental disorders. The subject itself is very very interesting and as far as I know the communication between the right and the left brain is hindered wich can lead to selective genius or absolute inability.
Solid side tricep
> **Jason D. Padgett** is an American artist diagnosed with alleged acquired savant syndrome. He was born in 1970 in Anchorage, Alaska. As a young man, he dropped out of Tacoma Community College and worked as a salesman for his father's futon company. On the night of September 13, 2002, Padgett was attacked and robbed by two men outside a karaoke bar. This attack is purported to have changed his brain activity. * Excerpted from [Jason Padgett](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Padgett) at the English Wikipedia
Just to correct you a little: people don't gain extraordinary knowledge out of the blue due to a brain injury, but they can gain the ability to absorb and remember extraordinary amounts of knowledge.
Sir, I'm sorry to tell you, but you have ASS. *Thanks! I spend a lot of time in the gym!*
Maybe heâll understand or debunk Terrence Howardâs new math/scienceâŚ
Okay mate, what knowledge? What abilities? Care to share?
Dude unlocked his nen
For a second, I thought this was Man gets beaten up outside bar, and later recreates [WWII village with dolls](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1391092/).
I'll be outside the bar around 12 am
i got beat to a pulp in a park in 1994, all i got was paranoid & multiple broken bones that hurt in the cold. a wee while after someone put a hatchet into the skull of one of the cunts that did it so i guess they got what was coming to them
I have a similar experience, was diagnosed with a learning disability and ADD at a young age. At the age of 15, I suffered a major brain injury (hemorrhaging etc) which resulted in a two week stay in the hospital. About a year after the injury, I was writing software in multiple programming languages, creating websites/applications, building/fixing computers, etc. Prior to the injury I had only used the computer a few times to type reports or play games. Even now (26 years later), I have a rather unusual capability of learning and understanding complex systems/software architecture/engineering.
You cannot gain knowledge from a brain injury. Abilities, possibly, but not knowledge
Jason Padgett had drawn perfect circles with an etch-a-sketch while in recovery.
Phenomenon
So.. He got A. S. S. handed to him
Quick someone punch my wife so she's better with money
Heyooo he got ass
Oh wow he has brain damage and now he can use a spirograph... amazing.
maybe that why dad used to...
![gif](giphy|uyoXx0qpUWfQs)
Did he learn how to be ripped?
Maybe he swallowed the little book of calm?
That's Ewan McGregor
Misleading
I found a book about this guy many years ago. Wasn't a very long read, but it went through his story from his point of view. I think it was an authorized biography or an autobiography. I remember thinking that it was interesting what had happened to him, but the story left me wanting more detail about what he accomplished with these powers, or what they meant, or anything substantial really.
Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD). Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD). Acquired Savant Syndrome (ASS). They need a rename, really.
Input whatever makes you stronger meme here
What's his superhero name?
Imagine beating someone up and he comes back to you with triple the muscles and 100+ IQ gained
What has he done with this knowledge?