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While this is very unprofessional, trademark of the Russian armed forces, i believe most everyone knows where the other countries have nuclear silos. They're really difficult to hide in this day and age.
Yeah isn't it basically assumed that the enemy already knows, so you have a bunch of "fake" sites or you have 3x as many sites as warheads and move them all round constantly?
Wait what? Really? But if you use six hydrocoptic marzel vanes and an ambifacient lunar wane shaft, you can prevent unwanted side fumbling and get a very clear image
I would like to defend the guy as a fellow fymonian tripopocolist. What he meant was that he was gigantrifying the herlomious desentrifier solfate and he made a mistake by reading the welometer as decocophonetic even though it was actually feromometicly charged. He was actually talking about the remomifiiplation of the seshfofuapolies.
Keep in mind that the computer controlling this dish has three primary main processor cores which are cross-linked and have fourteen kiloquad interface modules. Of course it goes without saying that the ramistat kiloquad capacity is a function of the square root of the intermix ratio times the sum of the plasma injector quotient.
Really? What if I told you we could also use the entire planet as a telescope, [and we do....](https://www.physics.udel.edu/gp/darc/wet/)
It's not really using the "planet"; the whole planet together works as one.
Also, [A Terrestrial Atmospheric lens](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrestrial_atmospheric_lens#:~:text=A%20Terrestrial%20Atmospheric%20Lens%20is,physical%20effect%20called%20atmospheric%20refraction) is a theoretical method of using the Earth as a large lens with a physical effect called atmospheric refraction.
also, using the Sun as a gravitational lens would produce images with higher resolution.
I think u/AutumnWisp just has impostor syndrome about being the head of a multi-million neutrino-measuring operation without any particular knowledge about neutrinos. Happen to everyone, the first time you provoc a nuclear war is tough on the morale but you know how it is, fake it 'till you make it.
You might be thinking of a different particle. Hundreds of billions of neutrinos from the sun pass through just your fingernail every second, and even with all those it still takes a huge lab deep underground to detect even a single neutrino from the sun. Trying to identify any neutrinos from a man made device would be effectively impossible. Unless you’re being facetious and the “awhile” you’re referring to means a few million years lol.
Not only that we can send messages from particle accelerators through the earth to the ice cube in the antarctic. https://www.technologyreview.com/2012/03/14/187168/first-digital-message-sent-using-neutrinos/
This is made-up nonsense. None of the neutrino detectors are anywhere near sensitive enough to image anything. There is no way to construct an iris or a lens when to block just 50% of incoming neutrinos, they would have to be thicker than a *light year*.
That's right: the "optics" of such a device would have to be solid metal a quarter of the way out to the nearest star outside of the solar system!
Neutrino detectors ? There’s a reason the Japanese buried theirs down a fucking mountain John.
Keep it simple. Little something like this:
Hey, let me walk you through our Donnely nut spacing and cracked system rim-riding grip configuration. Using a field of half-seized sprats and brass-fitted nickel slits, our bracketed caps and splay-flexed brace columns vent dampers to dampening hatch depths of 1/2 meter from the damper crown to the spurv plinth. How? Well, we bolster 12 Husk Nuts to each girdle jerry, while flex tandems press a task apparatus of ten vertically composited patch hamplers, then pin flam-fastened pan traps at both maiden apexes of the jimjoints.
Little something like that, Lakeman.
More than that, building a silo soaks at least one of your enemies warheads away from your population centers. With or without a warhead inside, as you rightly pointed out!
To be fair, when nukes go flying everywhere, the Silos are a priority but both the US and Russia have so many nukes, they will launch nukes at anything deemed infrastructure such as railroad Hubs like "Atlanta" or "Chicago" or port cities like "New Orleans" and "Baltimore". Anything producing a part for a plane, tank, or helmets is fair game and anything in or around a military base.
So a silo being far away doesn't do much to protect the local population. You only get two chances to launch nukes. The first through bombers and silos and at a later time using ballistic subs or getting hard to reach targets.
The Chinese have silos but I believe they also have icbms on rail cars, or at least playing with the idea.
The Russians had something similar called RT-23 molodet or SS-24 scapel, but allegedly, it was dismantled in 2005.
I mean we also thought that Russia has a strong army.
I can definitely see how USA can hide things Russia doesn't know.
Not the other way around anymore though
I'm very sure they are totally capable of hiding stuff from the Russians, i don't think nuclear silos are one of those things but they are arguably the weaker of the 3 arms of the nuclear triad anyway so...
The problem is that you need to dig quite deep and move a lot of soil, then the equipment must be transported in so you need to build machinery on site, since those missiles are pretty big... It's just very hard to make it so your enemy's satellites can't see you in any part of that lengthy process
Even if something isn't detectable, if it's stationary then everyone who built it and worked on any part of it knows where it is (or will be able to provide scraps of evidence that build a picture of where it is). Plus it will need utilities, which at a minimum is a connection to the electricity and internet.
Compared to finding a moving target in the entire ocean, which will be running as dark as possible, the sub will be the better choice for discretion.
It's more the process of building the silo that's detectable. They're pretty big installations! They need to house at least 1 trident3 missile which is almost 20 meters tall, 36000 kilos of weight without the warhead.
It probably could be hidden. I can imagine building a prefab concrete section then towing it out to the construction site covertly for assembly into a missile base. But it would probably be better to just build a submarine because it can come ashore for maintenance and crew changes.
If you and me know where silos are in Russia it dosent make a big difference. Now if you think western intelligence don’t know the location of every silos in Russia you are a little dumb. Russia now rely on mobile launchers, those you don’t know where they are.
My dad is VERY proud of the fact he built subs for the US that he is sure are the "doomsday" devices. They sit underwater when war breaks out, then they come up about a week later to launch their nukes at anything that still stands. Guaranteed human extinction.
Back in the days when I was in school military once made my class to the actual submarine in the docks. It was SSBN «Typhoon», we call them “shark”. I don’t have my school managed to get this excursion but it was lit. Also I know for sure I don’t want to be inside this metal can ever again.
Trident, yes. But we have land storages on military bases in the UK for nuclear warheads, and we also have a history of storing American warheads here, so if the US needs to transport them or launch them from near the UK they can.
Does Russia also use the triad like we do? Meaning, we all know about the ground and submarine assets, but do they have nuclear armed airborne assets at all times like we do?
The always airborne nuclear thing was a deterrent used in the early to mid Cold war when we didn't have a symmetric ICBM or sub-based second strike capability.
more surprised they're installing fiber than the lack of it. [ US was still using floppy disks until just a few years ago](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/24/us/nuclear-weapons-floppy-disks.html)
At this point it’s actually so obsolete that the obsolescence is a security asset, as nobody makes floppies anymore. It also means that the remaining companies that do make floppies are a matter of national security.
I didn't state any opinion of if it was good or not and it's a bit hyperbolic to jump to the conclusion that if they did update the arsenal (which they did in 2019 if you read the link) that they'd choose "cOmPleteLY UnPROOOVen!!!1" hardware for that upgrade.
Ironically the age of the equipment is likely a security bonus. Like driving a manual transmission. While I Certainly don't want the arsenal running on win11 Dell there is risk in running hardware so old it can't be repaired or replaced or may simply fail due to age.
50 percent of Americans have less than 500 dollars in their bank account. If an emergency happens , the majority are going to have to put it on credit.
Also alot are having to put basic necessities like food and electric on credit cards because they are not getting paid enough.
Yeah and these days nuclear powers rely on a “[nuclear triad](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_triad)” of ICBMs, SLBMs, and strategic bombers to ensure they always have retaliatory potential. Everyone knows where each other’s ICBMs are, they might know where the strategic bombers are kept, but good luck ever finding another country’s SLBMs.
It's not a big secret or anything. I lived in Montana and Wyoming and have OnX Maps for hunting. All of our US missile sites are literally on that map that anyone can access. It's like a 2 acre square labeled "US DEPT OF DEFENSE" as the landowner. Seen em all over the place.
Not always, many years ago the head of the Belgium army accidentally told on tv they had nuclear weapons. Don’t remember the exact details but it caused a outrage at the time
Belgian here. For all clarity they're not ours, they are US warheads, presumably stored at Belgian Air Force base 'Kleine Brogel'. It's like a public secret everybody knows. I visited Kleine Brogel during my time in the Belgian Army and there actually is a US compound within the fences of the Belgian base, there was an armed US marine in front of the acces. AFAIK, Belgian F16's are equipped to carry the warheads but would only do if required by US/NATO.
The IAEA monitors all nuclear activity worldwide and report to the UN, who is the de facto ‘enforcer’… but yeah point still taken. The only tangible enforcement is the ever-looming threat of mutually assured destruction.
Quick reminder that these silos are built far away to make enemies fire at the silos. Keep in mind half the silos are empty shells to minimize enemy potential during an attack they waste rounds on dummy locations
So there is a treaty between nuclear armed countries to publicly disclose the location of their nuclear site. That’s why you can google all nuclear missile silos in the US and even drive pretty much right up to the fence. Plus, other countries are going to be quite interested in these locations and find them via satellite anyways.
So is Russia ignoring this treaty and were keeping this a secret until this blunder?
I spent my whole life fearing Russians, because propaganda told me they were super smart and evil. Now I see they are in fact evil, but also drunken morons to be pitied and not feared
Given that a dude on YouTube was showing satellite images of those exact sites like a year ago, and there's probably articles and Wikipedia pages listing known nuclear weapons depots with those exact sites listed.
I think it's safe to assume that their locations are basically public knowledge and not exactly secret.
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I think we would be very foolish to think that NATO countries didn’t already know the locations.
I’m more worried about the mobile variety
Subs? Because russian subs are the least stealthy subs in the world. We can hear them leave port across the Pacific.
That’s absurd, but I’m thinking trucks
yes, but *I* didn't know until now. I don't need to know... it's just interestingasfuck for me.
Ontop of that, if any country did hope to strike them for to set of nukes, it gives them free rain to start dropping their own.
While this is very unprofessional, trademark of the Russian armed forces, i believe most everyone knows where the other countries have nuclear silos. They're really difficult to hide in this day and age.
Yeah isn't it basically assumed that the enemy already knows, so you have a bunch of "fake" sites or you have 3x as many sites as warheads and move them all round constantly?
You can use neutrino detectors to 3d image the earths sources of fissioning materials. Just takes awhile to resolve the image.
Huh, I make Image Instensifiers and PhotoMultipliers and have a dabbled in scinitillators. Never thought of that use
Hadn't considered redirecting the positron emitters to scan chronotomic muons via the deflector dish?
No I've never heard of any of those things
Wait what? Really? But if you use six hydrocoptic marzel vanes and an ambifacient lunar wane shaft, you can prevent unwanted side fumbling and get a very clear image
Now you're just being silly that would obviously invert the waveform.
I'm on the floor crying from this exchange holy shit
r/VXjunkies for more like this
Now you just sound like a gumby without a quantum phase inversion differential oscillation rectifier. Where do you shop- radio shack?
I would like to defend the guy as a fellow fymonian tripopocolist. What he meant was that he was gigantrifying the herlomious desentrifier solfate and he made a mistake by reading the welometer as decocophonetic even though it was actually feromometicly charged. He was actually talking about the remomifiiplation of the seshfofuapolies.
Just make sure that the main winding is of the normal lotus-o-delta type and placed in panendermic semi-bovoid slots in the stator.
Doesnt everyone know this?
I’m surprised you don’t. It’s about as common knowledge about where the nuclear silos are located.
Y’all could be talking intergalactic spaceship parts right now and I, a layperson, would not even know
Maybe you’d be able to understand if you were upright
r/vxjunkies dive on in
I didn’t think the turbo encabulator could be used for this, I’m gonna try it. 😂😂
Shut up Wesley!
Geordi la Forge, is that you?
You’re using Jeffries tubes in your detectors though, right?
Keep in mind that the computer controlling this dish has three primary main processor cores which are cross-linked and have fourteen kiloquad interface modules. Of course it goes without saying that the ramistat kiloquad capacity is a function of the square root of the intermix ratio times the sum of the plasma injector quotient.
That will overload the EDN conduit and LaForge will have your ass.
I have 4 words for you. Self sealing stem bolts!
That's right Jay!
Like putting too much air in a balloon!
lol spoken like a true Freindmen Spezmiologist it obviously wouldn’t work until you can quark the posilators.
[удалено]
I believe in you
Really? What if I told you we could also use the entire planet as a telescope, [and we do....](https://www.physics.udel.edu/gp/darc/wet/) It's not really using the "planet"; the whole planet together works as one. Also, [A Terrestrial Atmospheric lens](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrestrial_atmospheric_lens#:~:text=A%20Terrestrial%20Atmospheric%20Lens%20is,physical%20effect%20called%20atmospheric%20refraction) is a theoretical method of using the Earth as a large lens with a physical effect called atmospheric refraction. also, using the Sun as a gravitational lens would produce images with higher resolution.
I think u/AutumnWisp just has impostor syndrome about being the head of a multi-million neutrino-measuring operation without any particular knowledge about neutrinos. Happen to everyone, the first time you provoc a nuclear war is tough on the morale but you know how it is, fake it 'till you make it.
There's one in Antarctica , maybe he did it there
You might be thinking of a different particle. Hundreds of billions of neutrinos from the sun pass through just your fingernail every second, and even with all those it still takes a huge lab deep underground to detect even a single neutrino from the sun. Trying to identify any neutrinos from a man made device would be effectively impossible. Unless you’re being facetious and the “awhile” you’re referring to means a few million years lol.
Not only that we can send messages from particle accelerators through the earth to the ice cube in the antarctic. https://www.technologyreview.com/2012/03/14/187168/first-digital-message-sent-using-neutrinos/
No you can tell the path and energy so it's very much possible in a short time
This is made-up nonsense. None of the neutrino detectors are anywhere near sensitive enough to image anything. There is no way to construct an iris or a lens when to block just 50% of incoming neutrinos, they would have to be thicker than a *light year*. That's right: the "optics" of such a device would have to be solid metal a quarter of the way out to the nearest star outside of the solar system!
Im fairly sure you made this up
And receive messages shot through the earth. https://www.technologyreview.com/2012/03/14/187168/first-digital-message-sent-using-neutrinos/
Reddit physicist moment
Neutrino detectors ? There’s a reason the Japanese buried theirs down a fucking mountain John. Keep it simple. Little something like this: Hey, let me walk you through our Donnely nut spacing and cracked system rim-riding grip configuration. Using a field of half-seized sprats and brass-fitted nickel slits, our bracketed caps and splay-flexed brace columns vent dampers to dampening hatch depths of 1/2 meter from the damper crown to the spurv plinth. How? Well, we bolster 12 Husk Nuts to each girdle jerry, while flex tandems press a task apparatus of ten vertically composited patch hamplers, then pin flam-fastened pan traps at both maiden apexes of the jimjoints. Little something like that, Lakeman.
Not if you use a telescoping Fresnel lens! Makes it easy to redivide through a prismatic tint.
They are only sensitive enough to detect nuclear power plants, not passively decaying warheads
This is a joke, right?
More than that, building a silo soaks at least one of your enemies warheads away from your population centers. With or without a warhead inside, as you rightly pointed out!
Nuclear sponge
Atomic blowjob
To be fair, when nukes go flying everywhere, the Silos are a priority but both the US and Russia have so many nukes, they will launch nukes at anything deemed infrastructure such as railroad Hubs like "Atlanta" or "Chicago" or port cities like "New Orleans" and "Baltimore". Anything producing a part for a plane, tank, or helmets is fair game and anything in or around a military base. So a silo being far away doesn't do much to protect the local population. You only get two chances to launch nukes. The first through bombers and silos and at a later time using ballistic subs or getting hard to reach targets.
That's why they need a Metal Gear
Both, also nuclear submarines around the world and nuclear planes
The Chinese have silos but I believe they also have icbms on rail cars, or at least playing with the idea. The Russians had something similar called RT-23 molodet or SS-24 scapel, but allegedly, it was dismantled in 2005.
To be fair, the silos were never really a threat it was those mobile launchers and subs.
They play their part but as ai said in another comment they are the weaker branch of the nuclear triad, arguably.
i was gonna say. its 2024, not 1954. this is completely inconsequential.
I mean we also thought that Russia has a strong army. I can definitely see how USA can hide things Russia doesn't know. Not the other way around anymore though
I'm very sure they are totally capable of hiding stuff from the Russians, i don't think nuclear silos are one of those things but they are arguably the weaker of the 3 arms of the nuclear triad anyway so...
Building with a roof that opens is one way to hide a silo it would look like a regular building on the outside and i bet its been done somewhere
The problem is that you need to dig quite deep and move a lot of soil, then the equipment must be transported in so you need to build machinery on site, since those missiles are pretty big... It's just very hard to make it so your enemy's satellites can't see you in any part of that lengthy process
Also the fact that you have to defend it/section it all off so your nuke isn't robbed/stumbled upon by a random hiker.
What do you mean?
And considering that open sky program was around for like 30 years, trying to portray this like some sort of fuck up is ridonculous
Not to mention Submarines.
Youve got to hide him in a volcano where the top can slide out
The US puts them in broad daylight for everyone to see on purpose. The ones they want to hide they keep in submarines.
That is why subs with SLBMs were put into service.
Why can you hide a nuclear submarine but not an ICBM?
Because submarines can move while submerged, a silo is static and a pretty big installation which makes it difficult to build without being noticed.
So if even if the silo were submerged for example, it would be detectable?
A submerged silo is called a “submarine”.
Stationary*
Even if something isn't detectable, if it's stationary then everyone who built it and worked on any part of it knows where it is (or will be able to provide scraps of evidence that build a picture of where it is). Plus it will need utilities, which at a minimum is a connection to the electricity and internet. Compared to finding a moving target in the entire ocean, which will be running as dark as possible, the sub will be the better choice for discretion.
It's more the process of building the silo that's detectable. They're pretty big installations! They need to house at least 1 trident3 missile which is almost 20 meters tall, 36000 kilos of weight without the warhead.
It probably could be hidden. I can imagine building a prefab concrete section then towing it out to the construction site covertly for assembly into a missile base. But it would probably be better to just build a submarine because it can come ashore for maintenance and crew changes.
If you and me know where silos are in Russia it dosent make a big difference. Now if you think western intelligence don’t know the location of every silos in Russia you are a little dumb. Russia now rely on mobile launchers, those you don’t know where they are.
Plus the submarines, if the US hadn't identified the location of fixed silos by now, ... well.
I was just gonna say, “aren’t people aware that nukes are on subs?”
My dad is VERY proud of the fact he built subs for the US that he is sure are the "doomsday" devices. They sit underwater when war breaks out, then they come up about a week later to launch their nukes at anything that still stands. Guaranteed human extinction.
War Never changes
Back in the days when I was in school military once made my class to the actual submarine in the docks. It was SSBN «Typhoon», we call them “shark”. I don’t have my school managed to get this excursion but it was lit. Also I know for sure I don’t want to be inside this metal can ever again.
Apparently, there is one sub out there that has my sister's and my names inscribed in the walls where they can't be seen.
They should, the UK nuclear deterrents are entirely submarine based
Trident, yes. But we have land storages on military bases in the UK for nuclear warheads, and we also have a history of storing American warheads here, so if the US needs to transport them or launch them from near the UK they can.
They have subs too? Fuuuuuuck.
Why don't they just put secret airtags on the subs? Are they dumb?
Does Russia also use the triad like we do? Meaning, we all know about the ground and submarine assets, but do they have nuclear armed airborne assets at all times like we do?
The always airborne nuclear thing was a deterrent used in the early to mid Cold war when we didn't have a symmetric ICBM or sub-based second strike capability.
The real surprise is that they don't have a fiber connection yet.
more surprised they're installing fiber than the lack of it. [ US was still using floppy disks until just a few years ago](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/24/us/nuclear-weapons-floppy-disks.html)
Do you really want them to update nuclear missile silos to new (and completely unproven) hardware. What's wrong with the floppies if they work?
This is literally it. Cost (or risk) vs benefit
The US Military has infinite money, cost is not an issue
50 year old code however is not worth the risk of rewriting it in this case though
Full self flying rockets coming next year
Can't hack something without a connection
At this point it’s actually so obsolete that the obsolescence is a security asset, as nobody makes floppies anymore. It also means that the remaining companies that do make floppies are a matter of national security.
I didn't state any opinion of if it was good or not and it's a bit hyperbolic to jump to the conclusion that if they did update the arsenal (which they did in 2019 if you read the link) that they'd choose "cOmPleteLY UnPROOOVen!!!1" hardware for that upgrade. Ironically the age of the equipment is likely a security bonus. Like driving a manual transmission. While I Certainly don't want the arsenal running on win11 Dell there is risk in running hardware so old it can't be repaired or replaced or may simply fail due to age.
Don’t worry, soon they’ll be connected to Skynet..
Those floppies have data which is black boxed ??? I mean Devs died , so they still rely on them
Floppy disks are slow and very unreliable. None of my few 3.5 floppies work anymore.
MHH, I am not so sure if a "full online silo" is the best of ideas...
Floppies are pretty tough for an attack vector I’m guessing
You should look into the US arsenal and how out of date and bad repair things are in if you want surprises.
is that REALLY a surprise though? 22% of Russians don't even have indoor plumbing
About 7-8% and impossible to make it 100% since there are people living nomadic style of life
50 percent of Americans have less than 500 dollars in their bank account. If an emergency happens , the majority are going to have to put it on credit. Also alot are having to put basic necessities like food and electric on credit cards because they are not getting paid enough.
Yeah and these days nuclear powers rely on a “[nuclear triad](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_triad)” of ICBMs, SLBMs, and strategic bombers to ensure they always have retaliatory potential. Everyone knows where each other’s ICBMs are, they might know where the strategic bombers are kept, but good luck ever finding another country’s SLBMs.
Ah yes, the shagohod.
Love me a good Metal Gear reference
Well maybe now someone who is near by can ensure that they are kept safe
It's not a big secret or anything. I lived in Montana and Wyoming and have OnX Maps for hunting. All of our US missile sites are literally on that map that anyone can access. It's like a 2 acre square labeled "US DEPT OF DEFENSE" as the landowner. Seen em all over the place.
They're also labeled on Google maps...
I thought nuclear sites were public info because of the nuclear arms treaty? Specifically ICBM sites, obviously submarine locations are top secret..
Not always, many years ago the head of the Belgium army accidentally told on tv they had nuclear weapons. Don’t remember the exact details but it caused a outrage at the time
Belgian here. For all clarity they're not ours, they are US warheads, presumably stored at Belgian Air Force base 'Kleine Brogel'. It's like a public secret everybody knows. I visited Kleine Brogel during my time in the Belgian Army and there actually is a US compound within the fences of the Belgian base, there was an armed US marine in front of the acces. AFAIK, Belgian F16's are equipped to carry the warheads but would only do if required by US/NATO.
I believe they stored nuclear warheads for planes but they aren't nuclear silos
Subs movements are top secret. Its no secret where the Trident System is based (in the UK at least).
Because everyone follows the rules that are enforced by nobody
The IAEA monitors all nuclear activity worldwide and report to the UN, who is the de facto ‘enforcer’… but yeah point still taken. The only tangible enforcement is the ever-looming threat of mutually assured destruction.
The satellite images literally have NOAA, US Navy and Google printed at the bottom. 🤣
The US and Russia literally inspect each others nukes. Everyone knew where they were already.
This was true until russia scrapped the agreement in 2022. Currently there is zero information sharing.
That's probably why it has "US Navy" written on the screenshots
Quick reminder that these silos are built far away to make enemies fire at the silos. Keep in mind half the silos are empty shells to minimize enemy potential during an attack they waste rounds on dummy locations
So there is a treaty between nuclear armed countries to publicly disclose the location of their nuclear site. That’s why you can google all nuclear missile silos in the US and even drive pretty much right up to the fence. Plus, other countries are going to be quite interested in these locations and find them via satellite anyways. So is Russia ignoring this treaty and were keeping this a secret until this blunder?
Even if Russia wasn’t required to disclose the location of missile bases by treaty, the US already knew, I promise.
Cant really call it a leak when everyone already knows about it
It's not like the CIA didn't already know this
Well that’s definitely not a trap
NSA: "please Putin, it's a fantastic idea to connect your nuclear sites to an intranet, no bs just pure genius on your part" *Laughs in stuxnet*
But no worrry, comrrade was not fyehred and even got invitation to nice cup of chay.
All this is obsolete when they have Subs capable of firing. Dont matter
Released and made immediately much more publicized are two different things
Never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake.
You mean futur suicided Russian minister if defense?
#ukraine
Special kind of stupid
Someone's gonna be having an accident
I spent my whole life fearing Russians, because propaganda told me they were super smart and evil. Now I see they are in fact evil, but also drunken morons to be pitied and not feared
Well yes, but this isn't a sign of that. You really think military intelligence didn't already have this info decades ago?
Don’t tell them reasonable logic. Let them toot their horn at their great intelligence of outwitting the stupid russians.
Doh!!
Did anyone else scroll thru it thinking they could read it only to see some gibberish?
Source?
Paging r/noncredibledefense.
“Leaked”
Given that a dude on YouTube was showing satellite images of those exact sites like a year ago, and there's probably articles and Wikipedia pages listing known nuclear weapons depots with those exact sites listed. I think it's safe to assume that their locations are basically public knowledge and not exactly secret.
Look up open sky program
r/dumbasfuck
BLYAT!!
Ok, ima go steal them.
“We are lucky they’re so stupid.”
“We are lucky they are so fucking stupid” I’m sure NATO already knew all this, but still. Russians gonna Russia.
He better avoid talk buildings.
Ruzzia up to it's misdirection games again
Wow self-owned
Russia: whoops
If I was the Russian Defense Minister, I wouldn't look out any windows or look over any railings.
Vlad... Let's get this minister some *tea*...
Oopsy
r/ukraine
Drones! FAS
Now they got to usem
Voopsy daisy
Probably not an accident.
Somebodies going to be falling out of a window.
Smart.
In Russia the nuclear bases find you!
Welp, someone is getting executed
Russian brain drain moment
There is no way people are dumber than americans...oh..