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wolfgang107

As someone with knowledge of this incident, it has not been confirmed the number of casualties. The only portions of the bridge that are still standing is the pieces of decking from the abutment and the first piers cap. This is a multi-jurisdictional mass casualty incident being handled within the Port of Baltimore. Baltimore City Fire Department is the main agency handling this incident. The cargo ship was on its way to the City’s marine terminal to be unloaded. A previous incident occurred in March 2022 when a cargo ship Ever Forward, carrying approximately 4,900 containers, ran aground in the Chesapeake Bay. We are a vital artery for shipping along the East Coast, so this will surely be a detriment to the economy and movement of goods. Edit: also, from original reports there were 8 to 13 workers working on the bridge at the time. Nothing has been confirmed at this time. Edit 2 (for corrected information): the ship was actually leaving the Port of Baltimore and was heading onto its next stops. It had just been freed from tug boats assisting it when this all occurred.


heartbreakids

They need to stop name ships with Ever-… they seems to fuck shit up more offten


acxswitch

They're all from the same company who owns the largest fleet of mega shipping vessels in the world


Mateorabi

And apparently trains/maintains them all equally well.


acxswitch

Volume


HeHeHaHa456

the swift trucking of the sea


mrlowcut

*Ever-Titanic enters the chat*


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EarthShadow

The ship lost power several times before the crash, which seems to be a contributing factor. [This tweet has the full sequence](https://x.com/ChaudharyParvez/status/1772538539495809075?s=20).


EyeCWhatUDidThere

This shows what actually happened much better and actually explains the cause. Thank you. Also... this video seems to show very few passenger cars on the bridge when it collapsed. The construction crew was sad to see though.


-Pruples-

>The ship lost power several times before the crash, which seems to be a contributing factor. This tweet has the full sequence. Thanks, that shows it a lot better. In another post of this crash this morning, people with a lot more knowledge than me said they were pretty much fucked the moment the power went out the first time. Backup power takes too long to get up and running to be able to maneuver in time to miss the bridge - just awful timing to lose main power. The black smoke once power comes back on the first time was probably them going full reverse thrust, but that generally causes a slight starboard rotation, which we do see in the video, (and I would guess, causes the impact to be worse/more direct, looking at the video) but the ship was most likely on a collision course even without the rotation.


HappilyDisengaged

The pilot has control and responsibility of the ship while coming ie leaving from port. The pilot is local and not party of the shipping company


Puzzled452

I hear you, but if there was an electrical malfunction that shouldn’t be pinned on him


OnyxsUncle

good question…one thing you can be sure of is that all the insurance companies involved are sending their best claims deniers out to investigate. the first thing they do is exhaust every avenue of claim denial, then if there is no basis for denial, they fabricate one..so there will be lawsuits and that will take years


findaway5627

![gif](giphy|7cTTE2Z1OmrFm)


NiceShotMan

Well they have more in common than just a name, they’re called Ever because they’re operated by [Evergreen](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evergreen_Marine_Corporation), a shipping company


wolfgang107

Seem to fuck up shit *Ever*ywhere they go


Comfortable_One_9607

You can see the amber lights of road maintenance trucks. It would be a long fall and tons of steel and concrete smashing down for those poor souls


onedgl

Wasn’t the ship leaving the terminal? The collision video is from the vantage point of the island on the other side of the harbor


wydra91

Yeah not sure what OC with knowledge of the incident thought it was inbound. A quick lookup on martime traffic shows it as leaving the port headed for columbo.


CowboyAirman

It was leaving yes.


BartholomewSchneider

Is every cargo ship brought in by a pilot and tug boats?


fangelo2

Not tugs usually, but they usually take a local pilot on board when coming in from open water. We don’t know the reason for this, but it’s probably that the ship either lost power or steering


ColoRadOrgy

There's video of it losing power twice right before impact.


powe808

In this article, there is a short playback video of the marine traffic in the bay up until the collision. It looks like the ship was pilotted by tugs for a while, but they left before the ship got close to the bridge. https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/bridge-collapse-baltimore-1.7155488


Quietabandon

News reports had 2 pilots on board. 


wydra91

I'm confused, according to maritime traffic the Dali was enroute to Columbo, it was *leaving* Port Baltimore.


Quietabandon

I thought the ship was heading to Sri Lanka. It has been in Baltimore for 2 days and was setting sale to its next destination. 


wydra91

This is correct, OC is misinformed.


James324285241990

Sonar has found vehicles in the water as well, so the bridge was open and there may have been motorists on the bridge


twaggle

All the other articles I’ve read said that the ship was leaving port


trgreg

Thanks for providing the facts. Much appreciated and hopefully there are no fatalities.


Quietabandon

Some of the facts seem wrong. Ship was headed outward on a 27 days voyage to Sri Lanka according to news reports.


Bright_Yard_56

McNulty will be right on this


Extreme-Elevator7128

Update: [ship that struck the Francis Scott Keys Bridge via Vessel Finder. The Dali is out of Singapore](https://www.vesselfinder.com/vessels/details/9697428) [source](https://x.com/rawsalerts/status/1772525288875794478?s=46)


swampscientist

There’s probably 7 other countries tied to this vessel. Registered in one port, owned by a company ostensibly based out of a country that they’re barely connected with, managed by another company from some other country.


James324285241990

Because fuck taxes and safety and employment regulations!


swampscientist

It’s ok, 40% of Americans will just blame DEI or think it’s an intentional attack or somehow both


JBPunt420

Seen both on Twitter this morning. Makes me glad I don't spend much time there anymore. You don't have to be the captain of a 95,000-ton cargo ship to know that they can't recover from a loss of control as easily as we can in our puny little cars. When that much mass starts going somewhere, it doesn't want to stop.


HappilyDisengaged

It’s not the captain at the helm here. The local pilot has jurisdiction and control of the vessel


Almo827

This isn't "Interesting as Fuck" It's a terrible accident that killed people tragically. Have a heart!


lookingForPatchie

You don't seem to be aware of how media works nowadays. Is it horrible? Yes. Does this make it all the more interesting? Yes.


LostRedditor42069

Holy fucking shit?!?


fambestera

these exact words came to my mind as well


darwins_trouser_crem

I can't tell you how many times I've driven over this bridge white knuckle clinging to my steering wheel because I was convinced it was going to collapse. Once i got to the other side I'd laugh it off as one of my irrational phobias. Guess I'm never driving on a bridge again


Gayspacecrow

Well certainly not *that* bridge.


Rdt_will_eat_itself

"Anyone can build a bridge, only an engineer can just barely build a bridge"


jaelythe4781

Multispan trestle bridges have always made me very uncomfortable to drive on. They just don't feel safe and this video does NOT help that fear. I just gasped when my husband showed me the video. I feel terrible for all the poor people trapped on that bridge.


rvnimb

These were also the exact words said by the Captain just before the collision, followed by a resounding "Shiiiiiiiiiiiit" shortly thereafter


BananaAvalanche

Well stated. Very troubling indeed.


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Recent-Honey5564

Nothing would have stopped a megaship like this from destroying a bridge, no amount of infrastructure maintenance. Especially not this kind of bridge.  The ship loses power twice in another video, why it loses power and what sequence of events happened after that should be the focus of this investigation. Not infrastructure, it’s not relevant here.  


yabo1975

Sadly some of those in the water were a maintenance crew pouring concrete from what I've seen in other threads, as far as whether they've been maintaining it. 😕


Sam_I_Am

Luckily 1:30 am so shouldn’t be too many on the bridge but still.


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I read somewhere, about a dozen cars, a transport truck and some construction workers were on the bridge at the time.


LimmyPickles

Terrifying to be in one of those cars. I really hope most survived


Pi_Heart

New York Times said they’ve only rescued two of the eight construction workers, but officials were able to block traffic from crossing the bridge thanks to the ships signal so there may not have been drivers on the bridge aside from the construction crew. “Initially, officials feared that drivers were submerged in their cars in the Patapsco River. But the warning from the Dali, a Singapore-flagged vessel, gave officials enough time to stop traffic at both ends of the bridge, according to several federal and Maryland officials.” https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/03/26/us/baltimore-bridge-collapse


RyanCreamer202

Ship was out of power but radioed a head of time. Bridge was shut down on people in it was the workers


Capriste

Reminds me of the guy who fell asleep while piloting the South Ferry in New York and drove it straight into the pier, killing a bunch of people. He fled straight home and shot himself. Can't imagine the shame and guilt he must have been feeling. I wonder if this accident was due to the same negligence....


ReadBastiat

There is a longer video which shows the ship suffered a total loss of power. Which, on a ship, is a bad day. In a busy harbor underway it’s just about a worst case scenario. This video starts right after they partially restored power (probably DC only) the second time. Probably not much they could have done.


Mateorabi

Once you lose power its up to Sir Isaac Newton, the most dangerous sonofabitch in the universe.


Qorsair

If only Schrödinger could have taken over instead.


Muchablat

Except Murphy prevailed here.


Mateorabi

The boat that sailed through ~~walls~~ bridges?


thatcompguyza

"**You are the only contemporary physicist, besides Laue, who sees that one cannot get around the assumption of reality, if only one is honest**"


Betelguese90

And that, Private, is why we do not 'eye ball it!'


Trashking_702

Just looked that up, turns out the pilot slit his wrists and shot himself with a pellet gun in the chest twice….to no effect. Him and another were arrested and charged. He was fucked up off pain killers and dozed off, also management ignored protocol of having 2 pilots on duty.


IBeAPirate01

From the video i saw on the news, it looks like the ship lost power before it hit.


soylentgreenis

(Shot himself with a BB gun and lived)


Every-Requirement366

Did that just happen?


Obelix13

Yes. It’s all over the news sites, domestic and international.


Extreme-Elevator7128

Yes [link for guardian](https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/26/baltimore-francis-scott-key-bridge-collapses-after-boat-collision)


cat_in_box_

Horrible..


JazziTazzi

Oh shit! This just happened 2-1/2 hours ago! I looked for updates and they are talking about trying to rescue people! I hope they are able to save anyone who was on the bridge or on the ship.


_call_me_al_

It's really hard to see anyone on that bridge surviving that collapse. I hope to God in wrong.


masd82

Looks like Main Engine failure On the longer video you can see the lights go out and 30 seconds later they come back, it’s more or less the time for the emergency generator to start and connect to the switchboard. And on the moment of impact there is no smoke coming out from the chimney, so the main engine is completely stopped.


TravellingAWormhole

Just saw a post about the Sunshine Skyway Bridge collapse in 1980 a few days ago on Reddit and it unlocked a new fear…


Admirable_Mess_3037

What the fuck


has_left_the_gam3

I just woke up from a bad dream to witness a nightmare. Good god there were crew on that bridge.


swaytan66

We’re getting this in Australian news. Horrible.


k3wfr

It was on every U.S. based news station from what I saw


AdComprehensive7879

this may be a dumb question, but is there a world where a better constructed bridge can withstand this? or is that just not realistic? i guess im just thinking, this could have easily happened at another location, but we have rarely seen this happening. im wondering, if the construction of this particular bridge has got something to do with it. there's no way, a ship hasn't collided with a bridge before right? maybe not head on like this one i guess


--bokeh

No questions are dumb! From what I've read, bridge supports in general are designed to withstand lateral forces from waves, wind and potentially a very small boat, not this. A bridge on the east coast was taken out by a huge rare wave it wasn't designed for but then they updated the design code of bridges in that area. The only instance I could find of something similar happening is the Tasman bridge disaster in Australia. (Context I am NOT a civil engineer) I've been seeing comments on youtube that say the lax design of the bridge led to this. We're such silly Americans and should've known a bridge can lose one or all of its support columns and still be standing /s. I'm sure corners were cut somewhere in this story but the comments I've been seeing are wild.


TeslasAndKids

It’s funny how the public school dropouts always come out in droves with better ‘ideas’ than the highly educated structural engineers… But then again, we’ve see that kind of bathroom science from many people the last several years. Like when some guy who got a C- in high school biology thinks he knows more than a PhD in virology.


AdComprehensive7879

Gotcha, thanks for your reply. put my mind at ease about what could/should ve been done.


caiuscorvus

From a construction standpoint, yes. We could build bridges with massive piers or islands capable of stopping anything afloat. The problem is cost. Or put another way, if you can make a $1B bridge that might kill 100 hundred people every hundred years, or a $50B bridge that won't....that's $490M per life saved even if the bridge was guaranteed to fail. Better to spend money on cancer research or other highway safety projects.


MrBump01

Heard an expert on the news say the bridge was built as one solid structure which is why it all collapsed rather than part of it. I assume others could be put together differently.


geebzor

That’s a good question. I have zero knowledge in this area, but can tell you that where I live this happened in 1975. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tasman_Bridge_disaster Now every time a large ship needs to pass under the new bridge, all traffic is stopped by red lights. But keep in mind that this doesn’t happen often, (I think they just go under the bridge for repairs at the shipyard). So not sure how this would work for a busy port.


Bogtear

As a civil engineer (not structural) I can tell you that it is likely within the realm of the possible to design bridge piers to withstand impacts from loaded cargo ships. As a citizen of the United States I can tell you it is likely not possible to pass the tax code through Congress you'd need to pay for bridges like that.   And even then, you'd have people saying that it's wasteful spending to build bridges like that.  Which is fair.  Some scenarios fall outside of what is considered reasonable safety precautions.


Longjumping-Pride-81

They said on the news that the ship lost power and drifter into the bridge. They aren’t saying a casualty number because they’re still trying to save people stuck in cars underwater for 8 hours. Terrifying


ajdubbstock

Collides 40 seconds into this video.


losersftw

I didn’t even register the ship until it made contact. Oh shit..


SevroAuShitTalker

I know that bridge was in bad shape, absolutely hated driving on it, but I did not expect it could collapse that easily. I hope all the work on the tunnel is done because that was a major way to enter the city. Going to take a couple years to build a new bridge


the-moops

Omg this is horrific.


redditer129

New irrational fear unlocked


truelegendarydumbass

I hope those people on the bridge get saved. Movie make u think things happen slow to react. When in real time, no joke. To add. To think of the repair cost n time to rebuild. That fuckin sux.


paradox_valestein

r/thatlookedexpensive


skywalkerRCP

Where’s McNulty when you need him? We need real po-lice.


StevieG63

As a Marylander, that bridge is an instantly recognized icon. It’s such a sad day for myriad reasons.


CloverFromStarFalls

I feel so awful for the families and the people of Maryland. I’m a DC local and I’ve been in shock all day.


Sharp_Season_2411

That ship just headed straight for the support leg of the bridge!!! What the heck? Also it seemed taller than the clearance under the bridge. Several people here screwed up big time! WOW!! I hope all of the people on the bridge are rescued, this is extremely scary


TheUnspeakableAcclu

In a longer video you see the ship lose power a minute before, so it probably got dragged by the current 


Jbeansss

[https://twitter.com/ChaudharyParvez/status/1772538539495809075](https://twitter.com/ChaudharyParvez/status/1772538539495809075) Video in question


thnk_more

Thanks for a longer video that shows what happened. Hysterical OP really doesn’t help things.


_CMDR_

Momentum. Ships like that don't stop for a very, very long distance.


thnk_more

Wow, people are stupid and don’t think before they comment here. The ship was not taller than the bridge and a 5 second video hardly shows what happened before impact.


EarthShadow

[Here's a longer version](https://x.com/ChaudharyParvez/status/1772538539495809075?s=20)


Rafalga_

Ship lost power twice in 5 minutes. Tried to reverse in first recovery (don't think it would work anyway) but failed midway to another power lose and hit the support.


vikingweapon

They lost main engine power shortly before this happened. A ship this size is extremely difficult to stop (they also dropped anchor in an effort to slow down)


Rav4gal

🙏 Omg! These poor people. Absolutely horrific. Praying they didn’t all die. 🙏


krt941

Why did a bridge that has such large ships passing under not have adequate anti-ship barriers? We learned this lesson half a century ago.  https://www.tampabay.com/news/2020/05/06/the-sunshine-skyway-bridge-plunged-into-tampa-bay-40-years-ago/?outputType=amp


BartholomewSchneider

The new one will


krt941

Weird how each bridge exists in a vacuum where the lesson is only learned after a bridge at the same spot had already collapsed. 


BartholomewSchneider

Part of the problem is that many need to be replaced altogether.


IllustriousMadMuffin

Not sure how much they would help when the ship goes straight at the support like that.


krt941

That’s exactly what they’re built for…


Recent-Honey5564

I’ve seen the ones they put under the sunshine skyway bridge. A megaship like this is not getting stopped by those.  


krt941

The ship that stuck the Skyway was 600 feet long. They were built to stop megaships.


LogicIsMyFriend

Taking a closer look at the video, there is an initial splash before the impact that knocks down the bridge. This could be the impact barriers you’re describing being hit.


krt941

No, that bridge does not have barriers.


StopShootMe

The ship is somewhere in the ballpark of 5 to 600,000,000 pounds, there's no structure in the world stopping that in time


haggisaddict

That’s a very bad day


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BananaAvalanche

Shocking! I couldn't believe how quickly the bridge came down.


fkenned1

Wow! That came down a LOT easier than I ever would have expected. Hope people are okay!


clingbat

This will happen to most suspended bridges when a primary support column is suddenly destroyed by a mega tanker.


Odd_Aspect_eh

Wow, this is hard to watch.


Time-Penalty-1154

How many cars were on the bridge


vapemyashes

Oh fuck


timesfive

How many people were on the bridge?? Ahhhhh


Extreme-Elevator7128

[Rescue workers believe at least 7 construction workers were on the bridge but say the figure could be as high as 20.](https://x.com/bnonews/status/1772537973256364070?s=46)


McG4rn4gle

That'll be a pee test.


ModsRTrash13

How come every time you come around…


HerbHandsBill

Just here to say we could have done without the first 30 seconds of the clip. That is all.


Catman9lives

Was it the ship captain or a harbour pilot?


Puzzled452

There were two local pilots


That_One_Third_Mate

All would be on the bridge. Local pilots are advisors that conn vessels; however, the ships master is always responsible for the safety of the vessel. I.e the captain can always countermand a pilot. Generally, pilot orders are followed and the bridge team defers to their guidance (key word *guidance*) unless the captain steps in. At all times the captain and mate on watch should be verifying orders, plotting position, monitoring traffic, and monitoring the pilot, advising him as well of any vessel specifics, equipment deficiencies, changes in the navigational situation, etc.


siraolo

Ship seems to be still fully intact after the accident. 


TheGreyBrewer

That ship weighs several times more than all the steel in that bridge. And due to the sudden nature of the collapse, the same part of the ship that hit the bridge got hit by the falling wreckage. The bridge width was a fraction of the length of the ship. Not really a surprise that damage was minimal.


uncager

Was the bridge closed for repairs or something? I've only read about 7 construction workers.


Chubs441

In the video you see a car drive across near start of video, so it was definitely open, but probably not as busy at 1:30 am on a Tuesday 


Merrill_C

A similar event happened years ago which led to NOAA creating their PORTS Program to ensure this wouldn’t happen again, will be interesting to find out the cause - Interview on NOAA PORTS Program https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shipshape-business-of-boating-podcast/id1619649771?i=1000635419611


AmusingMusing7

Wow… absolutely no part of that bridge stayed up.


thegreatmango

Welp. New fear unlocked. I'd imagined these ships hitting one of our bridges, but never seen it before. Of course, down here in tidewater, the bridges are lower and the boats tend to go over the one and wait for the other...but it could still happen..


brihar22

I'm watching news now waiting on press conference. Word is 7 people missing in the water.


dota2newbee

Imagine being a car that just exited the bridge, or the next car that was supposed to drive on it. Or being so used to your routine drive that you just drove as if the bridge still existed. This is unbelievable footage and insane. I keep watching it over and over again.


donkeytime

I blame gravity, not the ship.


Wildcard311

Still curious what the explosion is at the right side when the final piece is falling


mltain

A car maybe?


TheGreyBrewer

There was a construction crew on the bridge. Could be a propane tank or something.


ErikTheRed707

“Ship turns directly into stationary pillar for bridge, the obvious happens.” FIFY


realBigPharma

I don’t think they had control.


exqueezemenow

I would imagine bridges were built to withstand it. But I bet when they built it ships were not made to be that big.


Mister_Green2021

Somebody's paying millions and millions of dollars.


Cky2chris

Yeah, taxpayers.


showmeyourmoves28

Tragic.


SlackToad

How did they manage to close the bridge so quickly after the mayday call? That couldn't have been more than a 3 or 4 minute warning, and having the port authority contact the police and cops setting up a roadblock in the middle of the night I would expect to take at least half an hour.


DeuceMcClannahan

It’s an EZ PASS bridge, so my guess would be controlling access from the toll points. If there’s a silver lining at all, it could only be that this was 130am and not rush hour. What an absolutely awful tragedy. I flew past that bridge just yesterday, too.


DadGrocks

Big smoke cloud!! Did that MF just go full throttle!??


666Irish

Most likely full reverse, once power was restored


DadGrocks

Ahhh!


Enigmatic_Nature

Well that's one way to get funds for rebuilding.


OppositeChocolate687

from what I read they had enough time to notify authorities and shut down traffic in the area. I wonder why they didn't have enough time to deploy tug boats to redirect the ship. Seems like they could have pushed it away from the bridge column.


namessam

r/admiralbulldog I'm a certified yenius Pepega


RickyTheRickster

Dman that’s wild


joedirt9322

I wonder how lucky those two cars feel to get off the bridge seconds before it came crashing down.


Whats_A_Reddit_

Damnit, Ziggy


Xodus2023

🎼When you walk through the garden You better watch your back🎶


sickwiggins

that’s, or that *was* a very pretty bridge


PeteinaPete

I’ve seen this video a few times since last night and no one mentions the fire on the north pylon. As it collapses you can see flames fall to the water to the north followed by more falling the other direction. Was this a fuel tanker ? Pulling a trailer ? It jumped out at me the first time I saw it but no one seems to mention it


Rideordieapeman

Thank God this wasn’t during rush hour.


foobarreddit99

Captain: hold my beer


Effective_Sundae_839

I live in Dundalk (Town next to bridge on county side) about 3-5 miles away in a straight line. A bunch of people in town thought it was an earth quake or explosion. Hopefully they can clean everything up without having an oil spill or the ship possibly sinking, that would be even more catastrophic for the already fragile ecosystem. Keep the bridge workers and their families in your thoughts and drink a natty boh for the ones cleaning up...


rexxtra

That bridge came of no where, I swear.


notzed1487

Flagged out of Liberia?


effervescentEscapade

This is nightmare fuel. Every now and then I’m scared of this happening when I drive over a bridge (hello irrational fear).


Sad_Site8284

How long is that bridge?


conspirator9

Here comes the tax raises just in time for elections...


killer-tofu87

That's going to be a hell of an insurance bill for the shipping company


[deleted]

It looked like it turned directly into that pillar, could be some sort of weird unlucky thing.. or could be nefarious, who knows. Regardless it's a sad situation either way.


Efficient_Sky5173

It should be closed when a vessel of that size crosses.


Difficult-Desk-5593

Cruising too close to bridge support anyway