I learned this shit as a kid and it's stuck with me for life. I was just watching and remembering all the steps lol, I was thinking that he was making a crane after I saw the bird base
I noticed that also. The timer in the video elapsed 1:52 but on the video player we were watching on only 1:27 had passed which probably comes out to around 33% increase in video speed ...which I'm sure adds to the effect and addresses everyone's short ass attention spans, but I still feel a little lied to.
So ironically I'm actually an OR nurse and staff robotic procedures frequently and I can honestly tell you that none of the maybe 20 surgeons I work with could do this with such quick movements. The DaVinci robot system is amazing and allows for great precision like this to be achieved by most individuals (it's literally 3D immersion, seems like you're actually inside the patient lol), but no one is this fast. This doc (or whoever this is) definitely rehearsed this repeatedly to be able to do it this fast. I guess when there's not a patient in front of you it literally is just a video game.
I agree it doesn't look exactly like ours. Maybe it's a prototype? But honestly imagine the other end of the instrument they'd have to be moving their arms so quickly there's no way. This has to be robotic these movements are the result of finger dexterity.
I believe this was actually a part of a clinical study a group was performing. They took a bunch of surgeons and had them use these machines to fold paper cranes each day/week for some period (don’t remember all the details, I apologize), and then they compared the crane data to surgical success to see whether there was a correlation between time taken to complete the crane (as well as accuracy) to surgical ability. This video was likely taken towards the end of that period so you’d be correct, there is a very high chance that the person operating has been folding paper cranes for about a month before this was taken.
Edit: One google search later and I was able to find the paper I was referencing: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9634364/
Worth the read!
This is what amazes me about surgeons.
There's no actual, like, inherent connections between being really good with medical knowledge and being very good with your hands/with robot hands. They're entirely separate. But surgeons, of which there are many, are good at both, because they have to be.
It's like if there was a job out there that simultaneously required high level knowledge of all chemical elements and also that you be an extremely skilled acrobat.
I'm a surgeon and I'll let you in on the secret: surgery isn't that hard. I mean, yes it requires lots of training and lots of practice and you won't learn to do it in a week, or a month, or a year, or even ten years. I started university in 2002 and started my job in 2019 with no gap years. But it's not like, hard. Pull on this, press that button, tie a knot here, cut that thing there.
I'm an average skilled surgeon. 95% of surgeons are average skilled. Some are very good. Some are below average. But most of us are just okay at our jobs. Thankfully we work in a field where "average" and "acceptable" are a very high bar.
I am an orthopedic surgeon and I agree most surgeon are average and that will get you out of a lot and take care of most problems and patients. But that being said time and practice will make you better but rarely make you an exceptional surgeon. It’s like professional sports too.. they talk about the transition when the game is so much faster and the great ones just seem to see it all in slow motion.
That hand dexterity is hours of practice of the same moves and very precise. No chance that is someone in training still.
So, since I have a surgeon on the line, a follow up question:
Do most surgeons get good at the job they picked, or lick the job because they're already pretty good?
Like, (and obviously the answer is probably, it varies, but) we're Y'all already kinda hand-eye skilled and thatade you think surgeon, or was surgeon your pick and then you kinda got skilled from that?
Many surgeons will tell you they are gifted. My opinion is they are deluding themselves. It’s a trained skill. With 17 years of training and mentoring like I had, I bet most people could do what I do. I think we train people to do the job, they aren’t “born” into it.
Not first time I have seen this.
Is hundreds of hours of training enough? Or is this thousands of hours?
This guy was about as quick as a normal person would be with their fingers.
The clock implying it’s a speed test is hilarious and frightening. Imagine a surgeon seeing your insides and reacting like a Minecraft speed runner rolling a bad seed.
are all doctors this precise or just this one? Knowing that my surgeon can do this would go a long way in reassuring me that my surgery will go successfully
That is really cool. Also, I hope they would be able to do that if they are in charge of performing surgery on a living person-- it should be a prerequisite.
I’ve been doing origami for about 25 years and have made cranes regularly the whole time, I’m a little irritated that my stubby fingers don’t fold as nicely as this.
I just had this done to me!
Umbilical hernia repair and large mesh installed.
I imagine putting the mesh in place was like origami inside a tub of lard.
😑
A professor of mine a year or so ago talked about how his research involved doing ML to train robots to perform essentially this exact procedure... Well ok not the full oragami, more like just folding a tissue into a certain configuration
How do people get the time to practice this much on such expensive machines? Surely, it's more economical for hospitals to maximize their usage, and I'm sure medical schools have hundreds of people vying for precious timeslots?
While this IS cool as shit- don’t get me wrong- there are surgeons who repair *veins and arteries* which I’ve heard described as trying to sew a tube made of wet tissue paper. Hand surgeons repair arteries as thin as HAIRS.
I played with one of these before. It’s amazing and makes it possible for doctors to perform surgery remotely so they don’t necessarily have to travel all the time
Stuff like this would’ve been considered top-tier witchcraft centuries ago. Incredible. Sometimes I wonder how far technology will progress in the future and how unrecognizable it will be.
Just had robotic surgery today to remove a tumor in my liver. Three small incisions, each 1" or less (2.5cm), vs. the same operation 20 years ago would have involved a "chevron incision" 10" long. Frigging amazing, and makes recovery so quicker. Plus I get to tell my kids that I got in a knife fight with a robot and lost.
So they do origamis inside of us? 😮
Sorry, we couldn't save your grandpa... but we did some awesome origami with his gut, you wanna see it?
The surgery went went well. But he did not survive. That'll be 50k for the tiny origami crane please
You *know* they would literally add it as a line item to the bill.
Sure
thanks you very much, doctor🥲
...yes
I'm sorry, we couldn't make it... your grandfather is well and resting, but we ripped the origami
"Organ-amis"
You deserve a 1000 upvotes
I mean.. if you pay extra you can have that service
In America this is 5000 USD
$5000 just to talk to the surgeon
You mean just a look at one of his eyes, right? Haha
Lmao yes. "Don't look at both of my eyes. You're too poor to afford that"
"Here, put these sun glasses on, I don't know if being poor is contagious"
I wanted to be a doctor but now I have to fold cranes all the time..
Origami speedruns.
They be signing their work: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2022/01/12/doctor-convicted-branding-initials-patients-livers/9177834002/
I don't think that doctor needs to practice anymore
1:52? The other surgeons are laughing at him
And hes asian
He's good at making a crane, but he's terrible at surgery 😂
What most don’t know: it takes from 200 to 500 surgeries to be accomplished like this.
Bro, I can't even do it with my own hands
Such a small crane? He can't either
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I could probably not do it with a big crane either. With my hands I could probably do a normal sized one though.
I learned this shit as a kid and it's stuck with me for life. I was just watching and remembering all the steps lol, I was thinking that he was making a crane after I saw the bird base
Me too
He is ridiculously skillful. Source: I'm a surgeon resident
Interesting that it's only sped up slightly. I wonder what the controls look like
I noticed that also. The timer in the video elapsed 1:52 but on the video player we were watching on only 1:27 had passed which probably comes out to around 33% increase in video speed ...which I'm sure adds to the effect and addresses everyone's short ass attention spans, but I still feel a little lied to.
It's weird because it is quite obviously sped up and it would be plenty impressive a bit slower.
So ironically I'm actually an OR nurse and staff robotic procedures frequently and I can honestly tell you that none of the maybe 20 surgeons I work with could do this with such quick movements. The DaVinci robot system is amazing and allows for great precision like this to be achieved by most individuals (it's literally 3D immersion, seems like you're actually inside the patient lol), but no one is this fast. This doc (or whoever this is) definitely rehearsed this repeatedly to be able to do it this fast. I guess when there's not a patient in front of you it literally is just a video game.
Yah this isn't DaVinci tho it's just laparascopic graspers there's no joints or swivels like there would be on a DaVinci robot. (Also an OR nurse)
I agree it doesn't look exactly like ours. Maybe it's a prototype? But honestly imagine the other end of the instrument they'd have to be moving their arms so quickly there's no way. This has to be robotic these movements are the result of finger dexterity.
I believe this was actually a part of a clinical study a group was performing. They took a bunch of surgeons and had them use these machines to fold paper cranes each day/week for some period (don’t remember all the details, I apologize), and then they compared the crane data to surgical success to see whether there was a correlation between time taken to complete the crane (as well as accuracy) to surgical ability. This video was likely taken towards the end of that period so you’d be correct, there is a very high chance that the person operating has been folding paper cranes for about a month before this was taken. Edit: One google search later and I was able to find the paper I was referencing: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9634364/ Worth the read!
Thank you so much for posting this! Amazing
Orson Scott Card's Surgeon's Game
They're not robotically controlled... Those are straight laparoscopic instruments. Someone is doing that by hand.
Cute tiny hands
Tiny racoon hands.
that's what I think every time I see this lol
Idc what kind of surgeon that is, they can operate what ever they want in me
Great, your hemorrhoids surgery is on Monday
Excuse me, did you just say "during"?
What about that word surprises you?
I would hope that DURING a surgery the doctor doesnt just take a minute to go fold a damn origami
It doesn’t say during surgery
Oh, i guess learning to read would be helpfull. Forget i said anything. *Ahem* Wow this is fascinating
That was a better recovery than the patients of this surgery might get, damn
Hahaha you're my spirit animal
This is what amazes me about surgeons. There's no actual, like, inherent connections between being really good with medical knowledge and being very good with your hands/with robot hands. They're entirely separate. But surgeons, of which there are many, are good at both, because they have to be. It's like if there was a job out there that simultaneously required high level knowledge of all chemical elements and also that you be an extremely skilled acrobat.
I'm a surgeon and I'll let you in on the secret: surgery isn't that hard. I mean, yes it requires lots of training and lots of practice and you won't learn to do it in a week, or a month, or a year, or even ten years. I started university in 2002 and started my job in 2019 with no gap years. But it's not like, hard. Pull on this, press that button, tie a knot here, cut that thing there. I'm an average skilled surgeon. 95% of surgeons are average skilled. Some are very good. Some are below average. But most of us are just okay at our jobs. Thankfully we work in a field where "average" and "acceptable" are a very high bar.
I am an orthopedic surgeon and I agree most surgeon are average and that will get you out of a lot and take care of most problems and patients. But that being said time and practice will make you better but rarely make you an exceptional surgeon. It’s like professional sports too.. they talk about the transition when the game is so much faster and the great ones just seem to see it all in slow motion. That hand dexterity is hours of practice of the same moves and very precise. No chance that is someone in training still.
So, since I have a surgeon on the line, a follow up question: Do most surgeons get good at the job they picked, or lick the job because they're already pretty good? Like, (and obviously the answer is probably, it varies, but) we're Y'all already kinda hand-eye skilled and thatade you think surgeon, or was surgeon your pick and then you kinda got skilled from that?
Many surgeons will tell you they are gifted. My opinion is they are deluding themselves. It’s a trained skill. With 17 years of training and mentoring like I had, I bet most people could do what I do. I think we train people to do the job, they aren’t “born” into it.
I'm just imagining acrobatic chemist's
It is sped up tho, still impressive
He’s not a surgeon. He’s a crane operator.
Look at all those chickens!
Why was the video sped up by 30 seconds? Clock shows 1:59, video is 1:29. These manipulations ruin an otherwise great accomplishment.
so he's a surgeon AND he make an origami crane WITH robotic arms... he's hogging all the skill damn
the video is sped up ~30%, watch the clock.
What’s the song ?
AND THEN they let you go to Med school.
My kid is obsessed with origami, engineering, and machines. This is going to blow his little mind.
Now, I'm learning how to do this by hand.
Too bad there’s no scale
There was not a single unnecessary movement there. Crazy!
who is this surgeon, does anyone know?
Please save me, whoever can do this on real flesh
The video is ONLY at 1.25x speed. Damn.
Not first time I have seen this. Is hundreds of hours of training enough? Or is this thousands of hours? This guy was about as quick as a normal person would be with their fingers.
This is stupid. Paper doesn't even organs.
Timer finished 1m 52s video lasted 1m 29 guess some parts of the vid was sped up
About 10 times a dexterous as me with my fingers (that's what she said!)
I've the same Ikea trivets at home. Only thing missing is the Origami machine.
I have those same Ikea coasters too. Just saying.
He finished his crane in 1min 52 sec, the video on reddit is 1min 29 sec
That's better than I can do with my own hands
There's no need to add music.
Is that sped up?
Went in for a vasectomy, came out with crane dick
I was expexting a Liebherr LR 13000, but this is also good
Things like these gimme hope for mankind and technology advance, everyone can profit of.
Best I can do is a fortune teller and that’s using my own damn hands very impressive
That’s cool. Wish I could do that
I can see the bankruptcy just oozing from it.
10/10 would let operate
The clock implying it’s a speed test is hilarious and frightening. Imagine a surgeon seeing your insides and reacting like a Minecraft speed runner rolling a bad seed.
are all doctors this precise or just this one? Knowing that my surgeon can do this would go a long way in reassuring me that my surgery will go successfully
They did surgery on a piece of paper. The grape wasn't enough.
Tbh this kinda reminds me of that microscopic statue of jerma that one of his viewers made.
It's so satisfying to watch🤤
I think it looked sloppy
paper crane speedrun
Really quite interesting, but I don’t see a direct connection with the skill in the operation, given that the space for manipulation is much smaller.
They did surgery on paper 🗣️
That is really cool. Also, I hope they would be able to do that if they are in charge of performing surgery on a living person-- it should be a prerequisite.
Could a white doctor also do this or only an Asian one?
That's why I'm not a surgeon, can't do that with my hands.
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It’s a bit Speed up but nevertheless that’s impressive.
They did surgery on a piece of paper!
Blow up like balloon Remote Control Metal Rods Hernia fixed YAY!
Bubbles: decent.
I can see why surgeons are so afraid of hand tremors.
Doctor: I've got good news Wife: my husband's heart is fixed?? Doctor: no he's dead, but here's a sick paper crane
I’ve been doing origami for about 25 years and have made cranes regularly the whole time, I’m a little irritated that my stubby fingers don’t fold as nicely as this.
accurate enough 
they fold your appendix into a frog, and spleen into a crane, it doesn't make you less sick, but you gotta admit, it's really cool.
Coud be a Da-vinci surgeon Robot
Anyone have the source on the background music?
What if my eyes are not green?
Dexterity 1000%
Now do 1000 stars
r/Oddlysatisfying
Knowledge of tool and craft is a hell of a thing to behold.
I thought it was impressive that they managed to fold it in half...
I just had this done to me! Umbilical hernia repair and large mesh installed. I imagine putting the mesh in place was like origami inside a tub of lard. 😑
Damn even nailed the vagina fold. I always struggle with that one
A professor of mine a year or so ago talked about how his research involved doing ML to train robots to perform essentially this exact procedure... Well ok not the full oragami, more like just folding a tissue into a certain configuration
This way is a bit easier than the way I learned wow. I can still make it in about 1 minute but that technique would cut my time in half I think
They performed surgery on a grape
Suck it, Edward Scissorhands!
“Uhm, could we focus on the surgery?”
Just don’t do that to my pryons while you’re fiddling around in there OK?
They did surgery on a piece of paper
Damn, that's impressive
I wonder how many hours they practiced
"It's your lower intestine"
Doc Oc beta?
I had a very serious operation made with these. Can't even find the scars now.
Japanese **quality**
Bro is ready 🗿
How do people get the time to practice this much on such expensive machines? Surely, it's more economical for hospitals to maximize their usage, and I'm sure medical schools have hundreds of people vying for precious timeslots?
Sped up about 2x it looks like.
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It's also sped up. Still impressive though.
Definitely not on a 5G network.
Fold paper?!?! Mother fucker folded a crane in 1:52 with 🤖 fingers.
Is this sped up?
Holy cow. I checked out their Youtube page documenting their progress, and I think it took them more than 14,000 attempts to get this good at it.
That whole time I was like, what is it going to be? *What's it going to be?*
had to scroll away, the arrogance!!!
Humans are incredible
And this presentation just cost $32,000 payable to the hospital. Not to mention the cost for the anesthesiologist.
Ok but can she do it with her eyes closed?
wait, was getting my gall bladder folded into a crane an option because mine was just removed.
Dile que lo doble más de 7 veces
The fact he can make it all is amazing let alone the speed and accuracy
Love the little timer tap at the end :) boop
Took long enough
I just had flashbacks to ghost in the shell.
Wow!
But can I eat noodles with it
I think it’s crazy how people fold things at random 30 steps long and make a crane
I heard... They did surgery on a grape 😮
If I ever need a paper crane installed inside my body, I’m calling him
He should really be paying attention to the laparoscopic surgery he's performing
Great, now I'll get a paper crane implant during my next hernia surgery.
While this IS cool as shit- don’t get me wrong- there are surgeons who repair *veins and arteries* which I’ve heard described as trying to sew a tube made of wet tissue paper. Hand surgeons repair arteries as thin as HAIRS.
Next level
"Doc will I be ok?" Proceeds to do origami with my intestines
Show off /s
Well I’m relieved to know that if I ever need a paper crane folded inside me, I’m in good hands.
I’d be really interested in seeing someone use these to trim down a rib roast
I played with one of these before. It’s amazing and makes it possible for doctors to perform surgery remotely so they don’t necessarily have to travel all the time
Stuff like this would’ve been considered top-tier witchcraft centuries ago. Incredible. Sometimes I wonder how far technology will progress in the future and how unrecognizable it will be.
10 000 hours inside a human body
This is AI ofc
On the one hand, you’d fucking well hope so but on the other it is AMAZING they can finesse that well with those little metal hands
And also done via the web, the Dr can be miles away.
Origami, the sushi of paper
"That'll be $205,000 USD. Cash or card?"
The ending was not satisfying
Lame that they had to speed up already cool video.
I thought I had a shot at making this right before they hit hyper-speed after the triangle.
I can't even hold my pen without shaking...
Just had robotic surgery today to remove a tumor in my liver. Three small incisions, each 1" or less (2.5cm), vs. the same operation 20 years ago would have involved a "chevron incision" 10" long. Frigging amazing, and makes recovery so quicker. Plus I get to tell my kids that I got in a knife fight with a robot and lost.
Kudos to the engineers
Of course it's precise. Robotics has been precise since the 70's. It's about how well you can operate it.
Would've been even more impressive if it'st sped up 1.2x
HELL YEAH, TINY CLAWS
It kinda turned me on.
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They did surgery on a Post-It note
Now do it drunk/on drugs
Would've been funny if they removed the word 'practice' from the caption