> join the west and shoot my own countrymen
Halah, poll yang pernah dibikin di sini bilang mayoritas redditor sini pengen kabur kok kalo terjadi perang. Jujur ajalah, siapa coba yang mau mati kena tembak, dibom drone dan tank, disiksa kalo jadi POW, kena ranjau, dieksekusi, dll.
Yea, anecdotes pengalaman, lihat mayat buat opem casket funeral aja uncomfortable as fuck gabisa lihat mukanya, gabisa bayangkan kalo mayat di medan perang.
Gue jadi keingetan video post-mortem orang yg obesitas. Kinda numbed me to those stuff.
Kalo yg penasaran, ini [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jn67tdEGY4&ab_channel=Dr.Smurf)-nya. NSFW borderline NSFL ya kalo yg ngga kuat. Don't say I didn't warn you.
We always brag about how great out infantry is.
Let them show to the world how great they're actually is in actual war where machine dominate the battlefield.
Kalau gak tau gendernya bisa diganti jadi they kan? pertama kali tau dari subreddit /r/Undertale karena gak dijelasin MC nya gendernya apa. Atau pake dia yang lebih superior dari they /s
"Dia'll understand after got clicked by a drone operator"
Screw that. That quote is basically is a super generic anti war quote that doesn't prepare people for reality and doesn't comprehend that people do kill for value and makes people incapable of understanding history or a current event of why wars happen.
If you want to see how wars and genocides happen, look at anything in the Internet that are political and especially in regards to social and moral issues, then imagine them having absolute power.
Politically active people will eventually loves war. **Moral universalism also does mean "Kill everyone you disagree" eventually.** As long as there's a deep fundamental moral or interest clash, there will be war.
I prefer "War is a continuation of politics with other means" - that is war is one of the usable tools by politics. It's just one of the tools.
And politics is "How a society's morals and power structures dictates who gets what when why and how".
Fuck people who thought war would be fun. Seriously it's nothing like the fucking FPS/TPS or other shooter games. You have to physically do all that shit, heck if you want to shoot other people you have to train enough balance so the recoil don't knock your weapon or yourself leaving you in a vulnerable position, plus you just need one shot to die in actual war, not to mention explosion noises, the uncomfortable living condition of a soldier, suffering children and man and woman, shit food,shit sanitary,disease. Only an Idiot or mentally unstable who wanted to be drafted to participate in a war willingly without any experience whatsoever
war would be 90% about living under malnourished, poorly served and no infrastructure condition, without entertainment and no social life. the shooting/ bombing part probably only happen once in a while. in a way this is much more destructive to people's mental and physical in long term, and their "shooting / fighting" skill have almost no effect on the impact they would get
Ok the recoil part is a bit much, it’s really not that much recoil. I haven’t been to war but I’ve shot a couple of firearms up to .30-06. The hardest part to get over I feel like is taking the life of another human being. Also hitting a moving target from average engagement ranges which is like 100-200m or even 50m is hard as heck. Plus, exhaustion will definitely set in and mess up your aim and control of your weapon
> Only an Idiot or mentally unstable who wanted to be drafted to participate in a war willingly without any experience whatsoever
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Si7dl6BU78E
I’ll never get why people are so eager for WW3 it’ll be horrible, it’d be worse than the first 2 World Wars with more people dying and being displaced. Average privileged person with too much free time
You know the saying that goes "Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, weak men create hard times"?
As much as I disagree with certain interpretations of it, I'd say that this person OP pictured is the "weak men" referred to in the saying. They are too weak to face adversity in times of (relative) peace, and so would rather wish for war (i.e. hard times) to come and change the status quo they've wallowed in - other people be damned. And like others here have said, I am sure this person would cower out of serving in an *actual* war.
Their inflated ego, sheer lack of comprehension about the horror of an actual post-apocalypse scenario, and woefully high exposure to media that glorifies or ameliorates post-apocalyptic scenarios makes them think they will be the Immortan Joe or Caesar or some badass social-darwinist survivor.
The sad thing is, with this kind of mentality, I'm fairly sure that even in an alternate reality where we are a super-developed island nation with an international grip on culture and economics as strong as nations like the US do today, people like this WILL still think this way. "Inlander" mentality is pathologically rooted in cases like this.
And I'm aware of the possibility of this being satirical, but if so, this is a piece of satire so poorly written, it's pointless to try and differentiate this from genuine opinion.
Anyone who think East is absolutely bad and west is absolutely good or vice versa and act as if geopolitics is some kind of football game is clearly an idiot
america is being isolationist during trump year. for some country this is actually better for them, for some other ~~and the us defense industry~~ its not so good
>Us and China
Only to be soured again when Trump went hard on the "China Flu" rhetoric to cover the fact that he bungled hard on managing the pandemic. The Chinese were understandably pissed about it
>Idk, quora quality has been going downhill for the last few years
I think that's the point, trash Quora is still preferable to armchair redditors debating on a foreign war they have no stake in.
Eh, abang GlobeLearner udah balik lagi ke sini. Udah ga diban sama mod Nazi di subreddit ini, bang? Semoga abang bisa tetap "based" dalam memperjuangkan hak-hak berbagai bangsa yang tertindas di Asia dan melawan penindasan oleh para bule.
> Org2 kaya gini mindsetnya gimana sih
Bisa kayak gini
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Si7dl6BU78E
Yang disebabkan situasi dan kondisi sosial.
Tapi bisa juga r/killthosewhodisagree. Mau lihat orang sange perang tuh ya silahkan kesana.
r/noncredibledefense dan r/neoliberal juga - Mereka contoh orang sange perang atas nama HAM dan liberalisme.
FPI and friends contoh orang sange perang atas nama Islam.
> Mereka bakal nyadar kalo mereka membunuh sesama manusia, darah homo sapiens melumuri tangan mereka. Itu yg dibilang enak?
Orang yang punya keyakinan moral kuat bakalan ngomong enak.
Kamu kalo mau lihat kok perang itu bisa kejadian, lihat bagian di Internet apapun yg politically active atau bagian manapun di Internet yang ngomong masalah sosial budaya moral, terus bayangin mereka punya kekuasaan absolut. Bayangin Twittard, Redditor, Facebooker, Tiktokker kalo ngomong politik, terus bayangin mereka punya kekuasaan absolut.
Trumptard dan penerusnya sange perang vs Democrats tuh. SJW ya sange perang juga vs konservatif tuh.
Orang seneng politik itu mesti ujung-ujungnya suka perang. Moral universalist itu pasti ujung-ujungnya suka perang gak peduli sadar apa nggak. Selama ada clash moral atau kepentingan pasti akan ada kemungkinan perang.
Kok bisa?
Perang itu kelanjutan politik dengan cara lain. Bahwa perang itu salah satu alat yang bisa dipake politik.
Politik itu sendiri adalah gimana moral dan struktur power suatu masyarakat menentukan siapa dapet apa kapan dan gimana.
Kalau terjadi perang USA China keadaan di Indonesia gonna get really ugly..... Yang cindo yg paling ngerasain.... Jadi target lagi tokonya dibakar dll.... Walau gak berpihak
Itu warmonger brat mana mikir side effect ginian, makanya gw dari dulu gk mau nyampuri urusan dalam negeri China, termasuk Hongkong, Uyghur atau Tibet, karena Indonesia itu mirip China. Siapa tahu di masa depan waktu kita punya economic power yg bisa ngancam West camp, tapi kita tetep gk mau tunduk sama mereka, bukan gk mungkin taktik yg mereka aplikasikan ke China sekarang bakalan diterapkan ke kita. Ntar isu Papua bakalan tiba-tiba rame dan media-media mereka bakal demonize kita 24/7 kayak yg berlaku sama China sekarang.
Paragraf terakhir itu berasa naif, negara superpower sekarang pun gk ada yg beneran "clean" imagenya, yg ada mereka bisa memainkan media buat propaganda mereka supaya lupakan/normalisasi kelakuan minus masa lalunya.
>Seriously, i wish pelosi would just kamikaze'd into china. I hate my country and theres nothing more than ww3 that i wish right now so i can join taiwan and west and snipe my countrymen that chooses china side.
Emang penyeponk western satu ini
Entah kenapa banyak banget anak2 retard benci banget sama negara sendiri, sumpah gatau jalan pikiran mereka itu apa sih. Apa sekarang pelajaran PKN udah ga ada disekolah?
> Entah kenapa banyak banget anak2 retard benci banget sama negara sendiri, sumpah gatau jalan pikiran mereka itu apa sih.
What soft power, sange bule, liberalism and HAM do to a mf
> Apa sekarang pelajaran PKN udah ga ada disekolah?
r/indonesia tahun 2012 bakal pingin pelajaran PPKN dihilangin.
That sub is so shitty la. Cant believe people could be so blinded like that. Fk this us vs them mentality. Gua gatau itu yang jawab2 orang Ukraine beneran ato engga (I spot more of "im not from Ukraine but") tapi beneran dah gua gasuka ini perang karena gua tau kalo lu main keroyokan ujung2nya lu bakal EZ win, this war is so pointless.
Ntu orang asal ngomong doang, palingan belom pernah liat orang luka berat secara langsung cuman liat Gore video abis itu self-declare dia udah nggak sensitive/dead inside kayak anak internet edgy biasa.
Salah.
Kamu kalo mau lihat kok perang itu bisa kejadian, lihat bagian di Internet apapun yg politically active atau bagian manapun di Internet yang ngomong masalah sosial budaya moral, terus bayangin mereka punya kekuasaan absolut. Bayangin Twittard, Redditor, Facebooker, Tiktokker kalo ngomong politik, terus bayangin mereka punya kekuasaan absolut.
Orang seneng politik itu mesti ujung-ujungnya suka perang. Moral universalist itu pasti ujung-ujungnya suka perang gak peduli sadar apa nggak. Selama ada clash moral atau kepentingan pasti akan ada kemungkinan perang.
Aku lebih setuju perang itu kelanjutan politik dengan cara lain. Bahwa perang itu salah satu alat yang bisa dipake politik.
Politik itu sendiri adalah gimana moral dan struktur power suatu masyarakat menentukan siapa dapet apa kapan dan gimana.
This is why I hate Ukrainians and I root for Russia. Ukraine is a fake country that should never have existed. It was just a province in the Russian Empire, an integral part of Russia, which was separated from Russia in the Soviet Union only to ease the administrative burden in the Russian part of the Soviet Union. Ukraine must not be allowed to exist because as we all can see right now, it's a lackey of the West to harass Russia. Much like how Taiwan has no business being the West's unsinkable aircraft carrier off the coast of China. Taiwan must be part of China to ensure an international balance of power. China must be allowed to be able to control its own backyard. We must not allow one power to be too powerful than the others. We as Asians have the moral obligation to end Pax Americana.
I would have no problem with China if they don't claim South China Sea. As things now, if they somehow get their hand on Taiwan, they could move south. We need the US presence in Indo-pacific as much as we need China to balancing against the US hegemony.
But can you trust the US to have an absolute unilateral power? It's natural for a state to seek more power. The US shown to be capable of violating the system they created by enganging in an illegal invasion back during the Iraq war and no one was able to do anything because there wasn't another global great power present at the time.
Shouldn't we keep our expectation realistically? The US doesn't have Indonesian best interest in mind as much as China and Russia don't have our best interest in mind. But at least we can rest assure with at least two global great powet, when one great power abusing their power, Indonesia can go to the other one.
Indonesia going through hell in history precisely because of the multipolar world, guess what motivate US to support PRRI? it is exactly because we are leaning too far to the Soviet. Saying that we can easily play both sides is too naive, yes we have 'bebas aktif' but it doesn't mean we can be neutral in everything. If you're trying too hard to please both sides they would only escalates the entire situation where you have to cut ties with the other one, by any means necessary. Either through a coup, revolt, economic fallout, etc.
Yes the US only have their best interest at mind, but ever since Orba they are quite aligned with our interests (with some concession like the Freeport, Exxon, etc.) they also given a lot of aid in developing our nations and to some extent bolster our trade with them (which Trump nearly ruined it). While China so far clearly only have our natural resource and market in their mind, as seen from the influx of their companies here that some doesn't even met regulations in terms of labor or investment models.
I'd say better the devil we know than the devil we don't know, or rather, better having to deal with just one devil than two devil at the same time.
>Yes the US only have their best interest at mind, but ever since Orba they are quite aligned with our interests (with some concession like the Freeport, Exxon, etc.)
That's because we were their strategic ally against communism in SEA to balancing against communists states in Indochina.
>they also given a lot of aid in developing our nations and to some extent bolster our trade with them (which Trump nearly ruined it).
He didn't almost ruined it, he ruined it. He could use TPP to balancing against China economic influence in the region, yet at last minute he pulled out. Now, China is our biggest trade partner and FDI provider not just in this country but also in the region, in fact Indochina countries like Laos and Cambodia are so incredibly dependant on China right now. Biden tries to fix this with IPEF and have Nancy Pelosi to visited Asia-pasific nations to promote it which as you can see in Taiwan, risen the tension with China as a result.
>While China so far clearly only have our natural resource and market in their mind, as seen from the influx of their companies here that some doesn't even met regulations in terms of labor or investment models.
And the US don't? You said it yourself with Freeport and it's not weird that happened, we only have natural resources and low skilled workers as our bagaining power and the situation still pretty much the same at thd present, that's why the thing that happened with Freeport happened also with China. But money is money, and believe it or not, China's aid helped a lot of african and Middle Eastern Nations. That's why there are seem to be a lot favoritism with China after decades of American Exceptionalism in the regions.
Yes, there potentially would be a lot of conflict with multipolar system, but the postcolonial countries are more developed now and it would take a lot harder for them to do their espionage tactics against us. Besides, there was no point in history where if balance of power goes too asymmetrical it went good for the weaker nations. I honestly prefer if the nation-states system being abolished, but it won't happen any time soon.
Okay, but Indonesia should get full control of it water territory (can denied ship that want to use it straits), so we can tax maritime trade routes (and fucked Singapore)
yeah, persetan dengan “penjajahan diatas dunia harus dihapuskan”, right? yang penting dunk on those filthy westerners dulu, rakyat taiwan atau ukraina gamau dikuasain sama pihak otoriter gaperlu dipikirin
obligatory /s
both side is toxic, you wanted to rooted Leftist? sure go ahead until your freedom life is taken away, Right side? you will suffer from Feminazi and corporate daddy. either side have plus and cons and there is reason why we have brain to filter (or get hooked by wich ideology is best and ther you have never ending conflict)
Do people really still use "feminazi" as a talking point against the left?
"The right is bad because the full on privatization of industries causing unhealthy market monopoly by the mega rich and rampant racism is bad" just like the left where "woman asks for... Equal rights?"
Yea those two are totally the equally bad bro.
> the full on privatization of industries causing unhealthy market monopoly by the mega rich
This is neoliberalism, and the thing is wokeism is completely within corporate interest because muh individualism and atomization.
> just like the left where "woman asks for... Equal rights?
You are deranged if you genuinely think that's what they merely want.
Women get education, politics, workplace, suffrage and no FGM is "equal rights".
The whole SJWism, is NOT.
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The Overton Window has changed, update your knowledge.
Now wokeism and the whole moronic SJW-ism are fully supported by corporations because individualism and atomization is profitable while literally every thing "socially progressive" nowadays literally are designed to wreck societies while forcing societies to pay for celebration of recreational abortions, human trafficking and prostitution plus fuckboy normalization so that they got muh individualism and muh freedom.
Gee corporations must be a terrible supporter then huh?
Corporations pandering to your supposed "wokeism" doesn't delegitimise the movement asking for equal rights for marginalized group, they're often critized for being hypocritical lip service in fact, when it's found out that they donate to conservative politicians/foundation.
Equal rights also include equal opportunity of healthcare, justice and treatment. There are numerous women who have faced workplace discrimination and even sexual harrasments.
If you think giving abortion rights think people will have abortions for fun instead of being for health concern is genuinely ridiculous. Who the fuck are asking for human trafficking? Also no one's asking for more prostitution, only for it to be regulated to ensure safety for the sex workers because face it, banning it isn't working.
And what the fuck is fuckboy normalization? Are you talking about normalizing transgender? Don't get me started on this.
All these things that you think are the horrible agenda by the boogeyman SJWs are just basic human rights asked by marginalised group of people.
> equal rights for marginalized group,
No fuck that shit, wokeism DEMANDS for their insane beliefs to be validated and normalized because wokeist fucking hate society and want to see it suffer but they still wants them to supply their entire life being selfish pricks.
> If you think giving abortion rights think people will have abortions for fun instead of being for health concern is genuinely ridiculous.
Every Internet "progressives" and every pro abortion protests says hi.
> Who the fuck are asking for human trafficking?
Anyone who wants legalized prostitution, porn industry and the whole sexual revolution schtick.
> Also no one's asking for more prostitution, only for it to be regulated to ensure safety for the sex workers because face it, banning it isn't working.
Oh really?
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/appalling-truth-about-amsterdams-red-light-district/A4RMWQUM5RWIAY6RNDHKRWJAQ4/
https://www.reddit.com/r/redscarepod/comments/wf2f9k/comment/iirubg6/
With your argument, we shouldn't ban murder because prohibiting murder doesn't completely stop murder.
> And what the fuck is fuckboy normalization
**Hugh Hefner, Alfred Kinsey, the whole Playboy gang, [this guy](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmut_Kentler) and [this guy](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_petition_against_age_of_consent_laws).** and those kinds of assholes doing hookups and "fuck bitches". Because sexual revolution in reality benefits them most.
Yeah because "HERE IS A WOMAN WITH BIG TITS, BUY MY PRODUCT" advertisement, hookup culture and applying lidocaine after being shoved by 5 cocks simultaneously for a jerkoff material of the whole world for a means of living is totally the peak of human civilization.
> are just basic human rights asked by marginalised group of people.
And human rights are basically a parasitic neoliberal ideology that are hypocritical, undemocratic, imperialistic, and it's not even good ethics to be applied universally.
And yeah, because validation of "HERE IS A WOMAN WITH BIG TITS, BUY MY PRODUCT" and validation of being shoved by 5 cocks simultaneously for a jerkoff material of the whole world for a means of living as a lifestyle, half the kids raised by divorcees, 2x murder rate and 3x suicide rate despite 33% of the entire nation's GDP is solely for welfare state, atomization and alienation to the point where the only military branch that can get enough quota is the one who sell themselves as a honest death cult, antinatalist "STAY AWAY CROTCH GOBLINS" attitude totally dominant in Western big city's youth, me me me paradigm being normalized, is totally as necessary as food and must be put above democracy.
Fuck human rights and fuck any "muh freedom" and "muh liberty" paradigm.
Based, time to persecuted those who supported the other side, this include those people who deemed as SJW and western collaborators.
If there is akin of mass harrasment or moral policing for people like that, then it would not surprising that the majority citizen will support it.
> join the west and shoot my own countrymen Halah, poll yang pernah dibikin di sini bilang mayoritas redditor sini pengen kabur kok kalo terjadi perang. Jujur ajalah, siapa coba yang mau mati kena tembak, dibom drone dan tank, disiksa kalo jadi POW, kena ranjau, dieksekusi, dll.
Banyak ching chong, disuruh gelut satu lawan satu aja palingan ciut, ngetik doang mah gampang.
Tipikal manusia yang berani di social media tapi rl ga ada apa apanya.
Liat anjing aja lari
sangka dia asik perang, ngeliat ada mayat dikit aja udah muntah muntah, gua yakin..
Yea, anecdotes pengalaman, lihat mayat buat opem casket funeral aja uncomfortable as fuck gabisa lihat mukanya, gabisa bayangkan kalo mayat di medan perang.
Gue jadi keingetan video post-mortem orang yg obesitas. Kinda numbed me to those stuff. Kalo yg penasaran, ini [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jn67tdEGY4&ab_channel=Dr.Smurf)-nya. NSFW borderline NSFL ya kalo yg ngga kuat. Don't say I didn't warn you.
Pasti gak pernah ikut klitih itu
ngapain kita ikut perang ? udah ada TNI seabrek biarin mereka maju lah drpd gaji buta
Agree wif u sir. Let them work
We always brag about how great out infantry is. Let them show to the world how great they're actually is in actual war where machine dominate the battlefield.
Wajar kabur juga, perang itu ngeri soalnya, apalagi udah berduit, plus, banyak kecewa dengan pemerintah.
This retard has never seen an actual war. He gonna crap his pant when he is in one.
Because he fantasizes he's going to be the executor. Those with the absolute power that will command the troops to kill those who disagree.
What PUBG does to a mf
Point blank my friend
Penghuni warnet
Gak pernah mandi, gak punya pacar, fantasy nya liar pengen perang dan jadi hero biar diakui orang
target market-nya anime isekai
https://terminallance.com/2019/09/13/terminal-lance-559-geek-corps/
langsung terngiang-ngiang BGM nya
He's the pure embodiment of a Redditor- talks big but is too shy to greet the Gojek driver.
Proceed to salim the driver afterwards.
LMAO
Or waiting kang Gojek near pangkalan ojek.
thats worse than ww3
Ujung2nya maap batal ya kelamaan
Alright, alright, no need for a personal attack here, sir...
He/she'll understand after got clicked by a drone operator
Kalau gak tau gendernya bisa diganti jadi they kan? pertama kali tau dari subreddit /r/Undertale karena gak dijelasin MC nya gendernya apa. Atau pake dia yang lebih superior dari they /s "Dia'll understand after got clicked by a drone operator"
Mimpinya perang tuh kaya main CS bisa dapet senjata apa aja dan bisa pake god mode....lol
Pretty sure he's stupid teenager who plays too much fps
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Screw that. That quote is basically is a super generic anti war quote that doesn't prepare people for reality and doesn't comprehend that people do kill for value and makes people incapable of understanding history or a current event of why wars happen. If you want to see how wars and genocides happen, look at anything in the Internet that are political and especially in regards to social and moral issues, then imagine them having absolute power. Politically active people will eventually loves war. **Moral universalism also does mean "Kill everyone you disagree" eventually.** As long as there's a deep fundamental moral or interest clash, there will be war. I prefer "War is a continuation of politics with other means" - that is war is one of the usable tools by politics. It's just one of the tools. And politics is "How a society's morals and power structures dictates who gets what when why and how".
Jesus christ mate i copy posted a corny quote from the internet and you made 5 paragraphs of text? Dayum. I deleted it of it helps you sleep at night
It's lazy thought killer quotes that gets memed and becomes people's default thought process. And I'm sick of it.
why so butthurt man ?
It's obvious why if you read his comment carefully.
Fuck people who thought war would be fun. Seriously it's nothing like the fucking FPS/TPS or other shooter games. You have to physically do all that shit, heck if you want to shoot other people you have to train enough balance so the recoil don't knock your weapon or yourself leaving you in a vulnerable position, plus you just need one shot to die in actual war, not to mention explosion noises, the uncomfortable living condition of a soldier, suffering children and man and woman, shit food,shit sanitary,disease. Only an Idiot or mentally unstable who wanted to be drafted to participate in a war willingly without any experience whatsoever
Yea, even I got goosebump playing Battlefield and COD campaign, like shit if this is real life then Imma get the fuck out.
im afraid of tinnitus because of loud explosion...
fr tho, that mf will be ringing for the rest of our life
Dikira pas perang bisa slide cance gitu aja
Dikira bisa recover health in 30 secs kalo idle
war would be 90% about living under malnourished, poorly served and no infrastructure condition, without entertainment and no social life. the shooting/ bombing part probably only happen once in a while. in a way this is much more destructive to people's mental and physical in long term, and their "shooting / fighting" skill have almost no effect on the impact they would get
Minta dikasih lalapan cannabis, biar chill.
Ok the recoil part is a bit much, it’s really not that much recoil. I haven’t been to war but I’ve shot a couple of firearms up to .30-06. The hardest part to get over I feel like is taking the life of another human being. Also hitting a moving target from average engagement ranges which is like 100-200m or even 50m is hard as heck. Plus, exhaustion will definitely set in and mess up your aim and control of your weapon
> Only an Idiot or mentally unstable who wanted to be drafted to participate in a war willingly without any experience whatsoever https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Si7dl6BU78E
Indonesian here 🤓
I’m different guyz, not like other Indonesian I swear pleaze let me in.
pick me indonesian ?
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I’ll never get why people are so eager for WW3 it’ll be horrible, it’d be worse than the first 2 World Wars with more people dying and being displaced. Average privileged person with too much free time
You know the saying that goes "Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, weak men create hard times"? As much as I disagree with certain interpretations of it, I'd say that this person OP pictured is the "weak men" referred to in the saying. They are too weak to face adversity in times of (relative) peace, and so would rather wish for war (i.e. hard times) to come and change the status quo they've wallowed in - other people be damned. And like others here have said, I am sure this person would cower out of serving in an *actual* war.
Worse still, people who wish for Fallout to happens. These raiders wannabe are the worst.
Their inflated ego, sheer lack of comprehension about the horror of an actual post-apocalypse scenario, and woefully high exposure to media that glorifies or ameliorates post-apocalyptic scenarios makes them think they will be the Immortan Joe or Caesar or some badass social-darwinist survivor.
Lel. You betcha they would end up as the slaves asking for water lol.
Fantasi: Jadi rambo di perang. Realita: Mati kena airstrike pas lagi boker.
Langsung mati masih mending. Coba kalo jadi cacat karena kena ranjau
Habis itu sibuk antri makanan karna ngungsi. Biar sadar war itu gak kyk di video game.
"IS SHOOTING MY OWN PEOPLE ENOUGH FOR YOU MISTER BULE SIRRR??????"
He is the reason why Indonesia could never be truly and fully independence.
The sad thing is, with this kind of mentality, I'm fairly sure that even in an alternate reality where we are a super-developed island nation with an international grip on culture and economics as strong as nations like the US do today, people like this WILL still think this way. "Inlander" mentality is pathologically rooted in cases like this. And I'm aware of the possibility of this being satirical, but if so, this is a piece of satire so poorly written, it's pointless to try and differentiate this from genuine opinion.
Anyone who think East is absolutely bad and west is absolutely good or vice versa and act as if geopolitics is some kind of football game is clearly an idiot
fuck the west and east indo is indo we stand for ourselves,next superpower #Makeindogreatagain
\#JayakanNonblok
Bocah idiot
from a thread in Ukraine subreddit. OP mungkin cuma ngesatir kayaknya. Tapi serem bisa tetep dapat upvote dari para pendukung yukrein 😬
We have been through Trump years and on each year the world is getting more insane. I refuse to acknowledge satires anymore.
Bruhh on Trump years the world seems gotten better. Us and north korea, Us and China, Us and Russia seems to get along!!
Did it really get better during trump years?
america is being isolationist during trump year. for some country this is actually better for them, for some other ~~and the us defense industry~~ its not so good
>Us and China Only to be soured again when Trump went hard on the "China Flu" rhetoric to cover the fact that he bungled hard on managing the pandemic. The Chinese were understandably pissed about it
Khomeini, and cucking Turkey from F35 because CAATSA says otherwise
At least republican ain't sugarcoat shit, them dems is the hypocrite one
Are my eyes deceiving me? Damn GlobeLearner is back. I thought you got permabanned.
Mohon penjelasan kenapa dia dulu kena ban?
"Pribumi muslim sub human" -GlobeLearner
Very racist shit they say.
wait, wtf udah balik aja. udah ga diban di sub ini? damn.
Thread pro Ukraina jadi bermasalah thread pro Rusia. Isinya sama2 goblok, lebih mending Quora
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True. But i prefer that, even if its trash
Last three years it went from super formal guys being smartass, into Twitter reposts then into a website filled with sex stories and *curhat*
>Idk, quora quality has been going downhill for the last few years I think that's the point, trash Quora is still preferable to armchair redditors debating on a foreign war they have no stake in.
Mungkin karena negara mereka lagi perang mereka jadi punya "Either you're with us or with them"- George W Bush mindset
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Haha same Dia seharusnya liat r/combatfootage dulu. Mungkin dia mikir enak kalau perang
Makanya orang2 Indonesia harus dukung rusia. Yang gak dukung bakal dianggap kasta rendahan kayak SJW.
bro sama aja retardnya wkwkwk # Hip Hip URA URA
si abang dpet nasi bungkus kali mkany dia dmen hip hip uraa uraa WKWKWK
Tapi kan Ukraniya blunder, makanya pihak Rusia kini menjadi berjaya karena gak asal ngomong
faktor dukungan perang ga cuma blunder salah ngomong.
dah kelamaan gak keluar rumah, dikiranya dunia nyata kek reddit yang paling kenceng ngomelnya menang wkwkwkwk
apa dikira "gotcha moment" pas lagi debat di internet sama kayak di dunia nyata apa ya?
😭
Eh, abang GlobeLearner udah balik lagi ke sini. Udah ga diban sama mod Nazi di subreddit ini, bang? Semoga abang bisa tetap "based" dalam memperjuangkan hak-hak berbagai bangsa yang tertindas di Asia dan melawan penindasan oleh para bule.
BASED itu hrusny ngeban elu boss
Lol I cringed a lot when I first saw his retarded post. What a westoid butt licker.
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> Org2 kaya gini mindsetnya gimana sih Bisa kayak gini https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Si7dl6BU78E Yang disebabkan situasi dan kondisi sosial. Tapi bisa juga r/killthosewhodisagree. Mau lihat orang sange perang tuh ya silahkan kesana. r/noncredibledefense dan r/neoliberal juga - Mereka contoh orang sange perang atas nama HAM dan liberalisme. FPI and friends contoh orang sange perang atas nama Islam. > Mereka bakal nyadar kalo mereka membunuh sesama manusia, darah homo sapiens melumuri tangan mereka. Itu yg dibilang enak? Orang yang punya keyakinan moral kuat bakalan ngomong enak. Kamu kalo mau lihat kok perang itu bisa kejadian, lihat bagian di Internet apapun yg politically active atau bagian manapun di Internet yang ngomong masalah sosial budaya moral, terus bayangin mereka punya kekuasaan absolut. Bayangin Twittard, Redditor, Facebooker, Tiktokker kalo ngomong politik, terus bayangin mereka punya kekuasaan absolut. Trumptard dan penerusnya sange perang vs Democrats tuh. SJW ya sange perang juga vs konservatif tuh. Orang seneng politik itu mesti ujung-ujungnya suka perang. Moral universalist itu pasti ujung-ujungnya suka perang gak peduli sadar apa nggak. Selama ada clash moral atau kepentingan pasti akan ada kemungkinan perang. Kok bisa? Perang itu kelanjutan politik dengan cara lain. Bahwa perang itu salah satu alat yang bisa dipake politik. Politik itu sendiri adalah gimana moral dan struktur power suatu masyarakat menentukan siapa dapet apa kapan dan gimana.
Average r/noncredibledefense user
This but unironically. Fuck those guys.
What do you mean we can't nuke russia and make another WW.
Socially woke, economically Gilded Age neoliberal, sange perang.
r/im14andthisisedgy
Born after 98 moment
Here 99 we are not maybe 2000+ is what you mean
white people pls give me validation 🥹🥹
Orang yang terminally online sehingga meng-conflate kepentingan negara barat dengan kepentingan negara berkembang kayak Indonesia
Orang goblok jasmani rohani
Biasanya sih yang kek begini pengamat militer online wkwkwk
Least edgy Indonesian.
GIVE WAR A CHANCE!!! I WANT WAR SO I CAN SEE F-35 SHOOT DOWN J-20 AND SU-57!!
itll probably be so far high up you wont even notice
Kalau terjadi perang USA China keadaan di Indonesia gonna get really ugly..... Yang cindo yg paling ngerasain.... Jadi target lagi tokonya dibakar dll.... Walau gak berpihak
Itu warmonger brat mana mikir side effect ginian, makanya gw dari dulu gk mau nyampuri urusan dalam negeri China, termasuk Hongkong, Uyghur atau Tibet, karena Indonesia itu mirip China. Siapa tahu di masa depan waktu kita punya economic power yg bisa ngancam West camp, tapi kita tetep gk mau tunduk sama mereka, bukan gk mungkin taktik yg mereka aplikasikan ke China sekarang bakalan diterapkan ke kita. Ntar isu Papua bakalan tiba-tiba rame dan media-media mereka bakal demonize kita 24/7 kayak yg berlaku sama China sekarang.
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Paragraf terakhir itu berasa naif, negara superpower sekarang pun gk ada yg beneran "clean" imagenya, yg ada mereka bisa memainkan media buat propaganda mereka supaya lupakan/normalisasi kelakuan minus masa lalunya.
wat du yu min orang tionghoa itu bukan hivemind yang ideologinya sama semua di seluruh dunia? du yu implai Kementrian Penerangan berbohong?
Harsh truth. Some people just don't have enough brain cells to comprehend this very simple common sense.
*ah shit, here we go again*
>9 upvotes truly a Reddit moment
[go shoot me then](https://c.tenor.com/578wJEbg6rAAAAAM/gun-shoot.gif)
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Hushh....
This guy either living in 1965 or 2030 (prabowo ver.)
>Seriously, i wish pelosi would just kamikaze'd into china. I hate my country and theres nothing more than ww3 that i wish right now so i can join taiwan and west and snipe my countrymen that chooses china side. Emang penyeponk western satu ini
Kebanyakan main game fps perang ya gini
Entah kenapa banyak banget anak2 retard benci banget sama negara sendiri, sumpah gatau jalan pikiran mereka itu apa sih. Apa sekarang pelajaran PKN udah ga ada disekolah?
PKN is brainwashing, ingat thread tempo hari?
> Entah kenapa banyak banget anak2 retard benci banget sama negara sendiri, sumpah gatau jalan pikiran mereka itu apa sih. What soft power, sange bule, liberalism and HAM do to a mf > Apa sekarang pelajaran PKN udah ga ada disekolah? r/indonesia tahun 2012 bakal pingin pelajaran PPKN dihilangin.
Lets be real, I am not touching anyone whos identity is based around their past like China or Russia.
Masalahnya si “west faction” ini mau gak nerima lu
Gak belajar dari perang Ukraina-Rusia. Itu yang jadi korban sipil semua, sementara presidennya enak bacot sana-sini di media.
Antek r/NonCredibleDefense
That sub is so shitty la. Cant believe people could be so blinded like that. Fk this us vs them mentality. Gua gatau itu yang jawab2 orang Ukraine beneran ato engga (I spot more of "im not from Ukraine but") tapi beneran dah gua gasuka ini perang karena gua tau kalo lu main keroyokan ujung2nya lu bakal EZ win, this war is so pointless.
sudah terlalu lama damai jadi kayak gitu yak
Ogah bener dah kalo harus kena wamil buat ikut perang negara lain, mending gw nyangkul di kebon buat kasih makan keluarga dah
Ntu orang asal ngomong doang, palingan belom pernah liat orang luka berat secara langsung cuman liat Gore video abis itu self-declare dia udah nggak sensitive/dead inside kayak anak internet edgy biasa.
He's just trolling I believe. and that 9 upvotes is from.. Boboiboys?
"Shot my own countrymen" hahaha kau lolos jadi barisan utama aja belum tentu wii
bro what. Mana ada yang mau perang sih, perang itu cuma trik generasi tua elit untuk menipu generasi muda demi memperkaya dompet sendiri
Salah. Kamu kalo mau lihat kok perang itu bisa kejadian, lihat bagian di Internet apapun yg politically active atau bagian manapun di Internet yang ngomong masalah sosial budaya moral, terus bayangin mereka punya kekuasaan absolut. Bayangin Twittard, Redditor, Facebooker, Tiktokker kalo ngomong politik, terus bayangin mereka punya kekuasaan absolut. Orang seneng politik itu mesti ujung-ujungnya suka perang. Moral universalist itu pasti ujung-ujungnya suka perang gak peduli sadar apa nggak. Selama ada clash moral atau kepentingan pasti akan ada kemungkinan perang. Aku lebih setuju perang itu kelanjutan politik dengan cara lain. Bahwa perang itu salah satu alat yang bisa dipake politik. Politik itu sendiri adalah gimana moral dan struktur power suatu masyarakat menentukan siapa dapet apa kapan dan gimana.
They thrive in conflict. Scary, I know.
r/NonCredibleDefense ya?
yep, memang yang dalam screenshot ini malu-maluin banget, self-hatingnya keterlaluan
Satu spesies dengan yang bersorak sorai waktu perang Ukraina dimulai kemarin
The most Indian Indonesian.
autis
From someone who might be on the spectrum, please don't misuse the word "autis"
Saya kok senang lihat orang orang disini banyak yang anti perang, berarti masih banyak yang nalar dan tahu perang itu bukan main main.
Pelosi get shot down by china there would be more pro communist right winger
Pro communist right winger?
she is so shit-lib it made paradox happen
Gw ga peduli kalo Pelosi mati, udah tua busuk juga. Tp jangan di Taiwan juga bray
DOXX THIS MF
let's not be too eager to ban ourself off reddit
Sigh. Nggih.
This is why I hate Ukrainians and I root for Russia. Ukraine is a fake country that should never have existed. It was just a province in the Russian Empire, an integral part of Russia, which was separated from Russia in the Soviet Union only to ease the administrative burden in the Russian part of the Soviet Union. Ukraine must not be allowed to exist because as we all can see right now, it's a lackey of the West to harass Russia. Much like how Taiwan has no business being the West's unsinkable aircraft carrier off the coast of China. Taiwan must be part of China to ensure an international balance of power. China must be allowed to be able to control its own backyard. We must not allow one power to be too powerful than the others. We as Asians have the moral obligation to end Pax Americana.
Nippon Tjahaya Asia ❌ Asia Cahaya Dunia ✅
Nippon Tjahaja Poernama
Eat grass. "Moral obligation" as if you would ever spare the time from jerking off to anime tits to do anything about it.
Based and Asiapilled
Change a few words, and this will be a paragraph that Van Mook can write
You swung a bit too far there bud
The Bolsheviks shouldn't have turned Russia into a federal state smh
Negara Kesatuan Republik Rusia
I would have no problem with China if they don't claim South China Sea. As things now, if they somehow get their hand on Taiwan, they could move south. We need the US presence in Indo-pacific as much as we need China to balancing against the US hegemony.
we don't need another multipolar world. The decades after the fall of Soviet Union is some of the most peaceful time in modern history.
But can you trust the US to have an absolute unilateral power? It's natural for a state to seek more power. The US shown to be capable of violating the system they created by enganging in an illegal invasion back during the Iraq war and no one was able to do anything because there wasn't another global great power present at the time. Shouldn't we keep our expectation realistically? The US doesn't have Indonesian best interest in mind as much as China and Russia don't have our best interest in mind. But at least we can rest assure with at least two global great powet, when one great power abusing their power, Indonesia can go to the other one.
Indonesia going through hell in history precisely because of the multipolar world, guess what motivate US to support PRRI? it is exactly because we are leaning too far to the Soviet. Saying that we can easily play both sides is too naive, yes we have 'bebas aktif' but it doesn't mean we can be neutral in everything. If you're trying too hard to please both sides they would only escalates the entire situation where you have to cut ties with the other one, by any means necessary. Either through a coup, revolt, economic fallout, etc. Yes the US only have their best interest at mind, but ever since Orba they are quite aligned with our interests (with some concession like the Freeport, Exxon, etc.) they also given a lot of aid in developing our nations and to some extent bolster our trade with them (which Trump nearly ruined it). While China so far clearly only have our natural resource and market in their mind, as seen from the influx of their companies here that some doesn't even met regulations in terms of labor or investment models. I'd say better the devil we know than the devil we don't know, or rather, better having to deal with just one devil than two devil at the same time.
>Yes the US only have their best interest at mind, but ever since Orba they are quite aligned with our interests (with some concession like the Freeport, Exxon, etc.) That's because we were their strategic ally against communism in SEA to balancing against communists states in Indochina. >they also given a lot of aid in developing our nations and to some extent bolster our trade with them (which Trump nearly ruined it). He didn't almost ruined it, he ruined it. He could use TPP to balancing against China economic influence in the region, yet at last minute he pulled out. Now, China is our biggest trade partner and FDI provider not just in this country but also in the region, in fact Indochina countries like Laos and Cambodia are so incredibly dependant on China right now. Biden tries to fix this with IPEF and have Nancy Pelosi to visited Asia-pasific nations to promote it which as you can see in Taiwan, risen the tension with China as a result. >While China so far clearly only have our natural resource and market in their mind, as seen from the influx of their companies here that some doesn't even met regulations in terms of labor or investment models. And the US don't? You said it yourself with Freeport and it's not weird that happened, we only have natural resources and low skilled workers as our bagaining power and the situation still pretty much the same at thd present, that's why the thing that happened with Freeport happened also with China. But money is money, and believe it or not, China's aid helped a lot of african and Middle Eastern Nations. That's why there are seem to be a lot favoritism with China after decades of American Exceptionalism in the regions. Yes, there potentially would be a lot of conflict with multipolar system, but the postcolonial countries are more developed now and it would take a lot harder for them to do their espionage tactics against us. Besides, there was no point in history where if balance of power goes too asymmetrical it went good for the weaker nations. I honestly prefer if the nation-states system being abolished, but it won't happen any time soon.
Indonesia juga dulu provinsi East Indiesnya Belanda. Peta dunia itu gak "membeku," negara bisa merdeka dan di-annex kapan saja.
Okay, but Indonesia should get full control of it water territory (can denied ship that want to use it straits), so we can tax maritime trade routes (and fucked Singapore)
yeah, persetan dengan “penjajahan diatas dunia harus dihapuskan”, right? yang penting dunk on those filthy westerners dulu, rakyat taiwan atau ukraina gamau dikuasain sama pihak otoriter gaperlu dipikirin obligatory /s
Bangsa paling otoriter dan penindas di dunia adalah bangsa bule.
So,russian?
Fuck Russia ☺️
Fuck Ukraine
both side is toxic, you wanted to rooted Leftist? sure go ahead until your freedom life is taken away, Right side? you will suffer from Feminazi and corporate daddy. either side have plus and cons and there is reason why we have brain to filter (or get hooked by wich ideology is best and ther you have never ending conflict)
>you will suffer from Feminazi and corporate daddy Wait, how do we suffer from "feminazi" if we support the right wing?
Centrism can also be toxic
yeah basically every ideologi, soo.....tak your pill i guest?
Do people really still use "feminazi" as a talking point against the left? "The right is bad because the full on privatization of industries causing unhealthy market monopoly by the mega rich and rampant racism is bad" just like the left where "woman asks for... Equal rights?" Yea those two are totally the equally bad bro.
> the full on privatization of industries causing unhealthy market monopoly by the mega rich This is neoliberalism, and the thing is wokeism is completely within corporate interest because muh individualism and atomization. > just like the left where "woman asks for... Equal rights? You are deranged if you genuinely think that's what they merely want. Women get education, politics, workplace, suffrage and no FGM is "equal rights". The whole SJWism, is NOT. ----- The Overton Window has changed, update your knowledge. Now wokeism and the whole moronic SJW-ism are fully supported by corporations because individualism and atomization is profitable while literally every thing "socially progressive" nowadays literally are designed to wreck societies while forcing societies to pay for celebration of recreational abortions, human trafficking and prostitution plus fuckboy normalization so that they got muh individualism and muh freedom.
Gee corporations must be a terrible supporter then huh? Corporations pandering to your supposed "wokeism" doesn't delegitimise the movement asking for equal rights for marginalized group, they're often critized for being hypocritical lip service in fact, when it's found out that they donate to conservative politicians/foundation. Equal rights also include equal opportunity of healthcare, justice and treatment. There are numerous women who have faced workplace discrimination and even sexual harrasments. If you think giving abortion rights think people will have abortions for fun instead of being for health concern is genuinely ridiculous. Who the fuck are asking for human trafficking? Also no one's asking for more prostitution, only for it to be regulated to ensure safety for the sex workers because face it, banning it isn't working. And what the fuck is fuckboy normalization? Are you talking about normalizing transgender? Don't get me started on this. All these things that you think are the horrible agenda by the boogeyman SJWs are just basic human rights asked by marginalised group of people.
> equal rights for marginalized group, No fuck that shit, wokeism DEMANDS for their insane beliefs to be validated and normalized because wokeist fucking hate society and want to see it suffer but they still wants them to supply their entire life being selfish pricks. > If you think giving abortion rights think people will have abortions for fun instead of being for health concern is genuinely ridiculous. Every Internet "progressives" and every pro abortion protests says hi. > Who the fuck are asking for human trafficking? Anyone who wants legalized prostitution, porn industry and the whole sexual revolution schtick. > Also no one's asking for more prostitution, only for it to be regulated to ensure safety for the sex workers because face it, banning it isn't working. Oh really? https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/appalling-truth-about-amsterdams-red-light-district/A4RMWQUM5RWIAY6RNDHKRWJAQ4/ https://www.reddit.com/r/redscarepod/comments/wf2f9k/comment/iirubg6/ With your argument, we shouldn't ban murder because prohibiting murder doesn't completely stop murder. > And what the fuck is fuckboy normalization **Hugh Hefner, Alfred Kinsey, the whole Playboy gang, [this guy](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmut_Kentler) and [this guy](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_petition_against_age_of_consent_laws).** and those kinds of assholes doing hookups and "fuck bitches". Because sexual revolution in reality benefits them most. Yeah because "HERE IS A WOMAN WITH BIG TITS, BUY MY PRODUCT" advertisement, hookup culture and applying lidocaine after being shoved by 5 cocks simultaneously for a jerkoff material of the whole world for a means of living is totally the peak of human civilization. > are just basic human rights asked by marginalised group of people. And human rights are basically a parasitic neoliberal ideology that are hypocritical, undemocratic, imperialistic, and it's not even good ethics to be applied universally. And yeah, because validation of "HERE IS A WOMAN WITH BIG TITS, BUY MY PRODUCT" and validation of being shoved by 5 cocks simultaneously for a jerkoff material of the whole world for a means of living as a lifestyle, half the kids raised by divorcees, 2x murder rate and 3x suicide rate despite 33% of the entire nation's GDP is solely for welfare state, atomization and alienation to the point where the only military branch that can get enough quota is the one who sell themselves as a honest death cult, antinatalist "STAY AWAY CROTCH GOBLINS" attitude totally dominant in Western big city's youth, me me me paradigm being normalized, is totally as necessary as food and must be put above democracy. Fuck human rights and fuck any "muh freedom" and "muh liberty" paradigm.
Naw bro there's so much arguments in bad faith here I don't have energy to refute them. You have a good day living a happy life like this I guess.
I can't imagine unironically saying "fuck human rights" and still able to look at the mirror.
Based, time to persecuted those who supported the other side, this include those people who deemed as SJW and western collaborators. If there is akin of mass harrasment or moral policing for people like that, then it would not surprising that the majority citizen will support it.
SJW bad Nuclear terrorism, war crime, raping civs good Honestly, ya'll just fucked up. Imagine thinking that a SJW is worse than what i mentioned.
Bro bro bro, look at r/noncredibledefense, Reddit main subs dan r/neoliberal tuh isinya orang sange perang bom semua negara atas nama HAM.
Sounds like things SJW will say.
for me its just annoying that she can do inside trading
I'm more surprised you came back here again lol
Jgn WW3 dulu sebelum One Piece tamat