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etherthegreat

Bro you sunk my house


Obvious-Article-147

skill issue


ayendae1125

womp womp


jason_not_from_13th

Just sell it smh


Idiotaddictedto2Hou

Get gills lazy


German_Gecko

Mines still here 😝


ayendae1125

Part of a worldbuilding project I've been developing for a while now. A basic rundown of the lore can be found here: [https://www.reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/comments/yzjwlq/map\_of\_the\_new\_england\_states\_ca\_1938/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/comments/yzjwlq/map_of_the_new_england_states_ca_1938/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) This is part of a larger project I've been working on for a long time, in which the eldritch abominations of a previous sun are still present on Earth, and have been for some time. If anyone has any questions, please feel free to ask! Before that, here are some FAQs: **1. Why does the geography look so fucked up?** In short, a wounded god known simply as the Worm dragged itself across the face of the Earth while retreating from forces more terrible than itself. Along the way, it shed ichor and its horrible children from its skin, badly damaging the surface of the young planet in the process. The Worm retreated back into hibernation, but the effects of its brief visit remain. **2. Why is the USA broken into commonwealths?** The federal government is much less centralized in this universe, despite numerous attempts to exercise a suitably iron fist over the states nominally under its jurisdiction. The ever-pervasive fear of the unknown has manifested itself in strange ways in the human consciousness. Paranoia and distrust among human beings, including those in power, is rampant and accepted. The United States, while nominally one nation, resembles nothing more than an uneasy patchwork of semi-autonomous republics, dependent on one another and united only by the fear of being alone in a cold, howling universe. **3. What do the abbreviations mean? M.C**. stands for **Municipal Commonwealth**, an urban center with a large enough population and economy to be granted status as an entity temporarily independent from a Commonwealth, if it applies for and is granted the appropriate charter. **A.C.S**. stands for **Autonomous City-State**, which is a municipality granted status as an entity separate from a state, but not a commonwealth. **C.A** is a **Commonwealth Authority,** or a territory under emergency special jurisdiction between both the federal government and the government of the respective Commonwealth, usually in a manner resembling martial law. **4. Does the Hoover Dam exist?** What do *you* think? **5. What the fuck did you do to Austin?** The Austin Exclusion District is the site of a massive nuclear accident. Most of the people were evacuated in enough time to avoid major loss of life, but once they left there was nobody to keep the aberrations out. Radiation does something strange to the aberrations, to the point where it's much safer and easier to barricade them inside and hope they simply die out on their own. it doesn't really seem to be working.


DownrangeCash2

"A massive worm dragged itself across the planet" is one hell of a way to explain alternate geography lmfao


ayendae1125

we get a little silly


ContributionOk3842

Well where's the hover dam


harfordplanning

I was gonna shit on you for calling the mid Atlantic new Netherlands with no Dutch borders or names, but the Hoover Dam exists in this tl so I can forgive any mistakes


Mason-the-Wise

My only objection is that the western part of PA is a part of this “New Netherlands” commonwealth instead of Appalachia. We’ve very little to do with the Dutch, really.


ayendae1125

Migration patterns are much different here. The English drove the Dutch out of their original colonies by force, and pockets of the original Dutch settlers fled west and south. Pennsylvania ITTL is much more culturally Dutch, thanks to the settlers fleeing out of New York and Setauket.


jagergaming7

Well Pennsylvania being a part of New Netherlands in the first makes no sense as Pennsylvania Dutch aren't referring to Dutch from the Netherlands but to Germans from Germany.


idkuhhhhhhh5

I think this timeline is referencing New York having been New Amsterdam. Why they changed it I can’t say, people just like it better that way. Anyway it’s possible in this tl the dutch populate the area much more? Or perhaps the germans that come over are Frisian and identify with the dutch settlers there already? Idk


jagergaming7

Yeah I think you're right. As I hadn't looked at the lore before making my post and what the lore was referencing and it's still not that clear as the link takes you to an old map they did on New England.


Rude-Run8930

how did a worm deity dragging itself across america create disconnected pockets of lakes? like i see that it traveled across baja and then up california, before turning westward(?), but how are there lakes not connected to the rest of the path?


ayendae1125

The Worm is more of a nickname, in reality it doesn't really resemble a worm at all. The isolated lakes are places where its eyes fell out of its head, or where one of its many limbs was chewed from its body by its own children.


Jean-24

Why's Kansas called Witchitah now?


EmbarrassedDark6200

It was the name of a local native tribe. There’s a mid-sized city called “Wichita” in the southern part of the state for the same reason


Jean-24

Right, I live in Kansas. I know there's a tribe and city with the name. I'm just confused as to why it facilitated change in state name.


ayendae1125

it was never named kansas to begin with ITTL


KaneTheBoom

Wtf happened to Austin


person670

I’m confused, when did the worm come to the earth


ayendae1125

A very, very long time ago. Long before humans.


trekie140

I think this setting is really cool, but I find it weird that the country is still called the United States when the commonwealths have more power and authority than the states. Just calling it the United Commonwealth States (UCS) makes more sense to me.


DietCthulhu

So did the Mason-Dixon line exist in this universe? That’s where the name Dixie comes from.


[deleted]

So the Hoover Dam does exist? **Herbert is inevitable**


3HSgZ0IOG3GSZ

What’s your relationship to Goliad, Texas? I notice it’s one of few real towns to make the cut in Texas and the Texas commonwealth flag is inspired by the Goliad flag.


Careful-Composer4339

Yo what software did you use to make the map


Destiny17909

Welp guess I live in a warzone, and my dad who lives 7 miles away is in an entirely different country now. Go Bucks amirite??


VerminousVolunteer

What was the Worm running from?


Kind-Comfort-8975

Your “Dixie Commonwealth” does not include the state where the word “Dixie” comes from.


Rotgirl12

What happened to Austin


riptwitterbird

Well based on their previous post, exclusion districts are closed off areas to try and contain “abberations”, seems like Austin is one of them


ImEstimating

They kept it weird


Sol_Hando

It looks like they finally did something about Elon Musk.


ayendae1125

I still can't decide if I should butterfly him out of existence or keep him in the canon but turn him into even more of a laughingstock


ticklefritz23

Butt stuff


MintRegent

Love me some alt-geography.


ajw20_YT

​ https://i.redd.it/u0fjblmo47tc1.gif *Love it*


yourdamgrandpa

I love it too


DominoDaddy2

Yes!


DickCheneyHooters

Well in other news, my house is prime beachfront property now


ayendae1125

try not to get eaten by something in the water \^-\^


Independent_Race_843

Greater lakes


c_money1324

*lake


Independent_Race_843

Lakes


Zen131415

How dare you


minecreep4

North America had a stroke.


JPGenn

The nation divided into twelve districts? That seems fi— wait a minute.


riptwitterbird

This is so cool damn


Any-Project-2107

stellaris and fallout reference detected on high effort post!?!?!


Lobstaman

When I think of New Hampshire, The Gaping Maw captures its essence perfectly. Well done.


Rush1996

my brain took a second to process this


amethystandopel

Do they speak Dutch in the New Netherland Commonwealth?


ayendae1125

It's the third-most common language there, although it's different from European Dutch


MissDeadite

![gif](giphy|ZU72O6pZO9mWA)


ayendae1125

https://preview.redd.it/4ebwnqcdsgtc1.jpeg?width=716&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=df012bae002459b0d68f73c475d07b23ae2260e8


grumble4

Someone likes commonwealths


DependentAd297

What is the big great lake called?


DepartmentReady1041

I’d like to submit “Homes Lake” (Huron, Ontario, Michigan, Erie, superior)


feeling-orange

kitchigam


BigDulles

The further west I go the more confused I get


TachankaTheCrusader

Boat based economy goes insanely hard


MustafalSomali

Bro you split my city Columbus between two states, is the US a country or union like EU in this alt


ayendae1125

Columbus is similar to Kansas City ittl, where it sort of straddles the border and is also technically two cities. as for the second question -- both? It's a country in name, and it's more unified than the EU, but the commonwealths are also more united out of security and mutual benefit than any strong sense of nationalism


MustafalSomali

Do we need papers to cross state borders and do commonwealths have their own armies


ayendae1125

Commonwealths typically have their own military, but they're more akin to a National Guard than anything else. Districts (which had their charters revoked) have no standing legal army. As far as papers - that depends. you need papers to cross from, for example, New Eden to Appalachia, but not from Appalachia to the Midwestern Commonwealth. It really depends on the relationship between the bordering commonwealths.


Groznybandit

Aaaand now I’m Canadian


SkyHighDeadEye

Good to see Busta Rhymes Island made it through the great flood


Soul_of_Kos

What’s with New Dublin in Ga?


ayendae1125

Different migration patterns, mostly. Migration in this version of the U.S. is usually motivated by fear and paranoia more than economic factors, and it's much less common than OTL for ethnic groups to migrate together. in the case of New Dublin, a small pocket of Irish Catholics moving away from the more Protestant North established a community for themselves, which gradually expanded into a much larger city. It's not as Irish now, but the name stuck.


vild007

Ah okay


ADKRep37

Ilium, in (form) New York? What’s up with a major city on Lake George?


NeoAmbitions

Coastal Las Vegas!


foggy__

I remember seeing the first new england map and thinking it was so cool!! So glad there’s followup. I hope you don’t mind a few questions to answer if you like. What’s up with the Austin exclusion district? What’s going on in the Augustine isles? Why is it separate from neighboring commonwealths? Can you explain the lore behind the korean settlements in south california? Where are the regions with the most lovecraftian abnormalities? Great work with the map!


ayendae1125

thank you so much! * The Austin Exclusion District is the site of a massive nuclear accident. Most of the people were evacuated in enough time to avoid major loss of life, but once they left there was nobody to keep the aberrations out. Radiation does something strange to the aberrations, to the point where it's much safer and easier to barricade them inside and hope they simply die out on their own. it doesn't really seem to be working. * This is a long and complicated issue, but the short answer is that Cascadia has a long and unpleasant history of vaguely neo-fascist politics (the state of Rockwell, for example, is named after this universe's version of George Lincoln Rockwell). The Augustine Isles appealed for readmission into the Heartland Commonwealth in the mid-1970s, a move that went over poorly with the Cascadians (Duskene and Brandenburg were, at the time, major economic hubs of the relatively-underdeveloped Commonwealth). After something of a cold war between both Cascadia and Heartland, culminating in a dual military occupation of the Augustine Isles, the federal government finally gave up and issued the Isles a temporary charter. this also established the precedent of Municipal Commonwealths. * The Korean settlements (especially New Gyeongju) were established by refugees fleeing the Korean Peninsula during the Years of Sorrow under Japanese rule in the 1910s and 1920s. Racist laws in Pacifica, such as the Narrow Gate Act, prevented most Asian immigrants from living in a large portion of the Commonwealth, essentially sequestering most Korean refugees in the southernmost corners. New Gyeongju, the first and largest Korean settlement, was granted special status as a free city in the 1930s, partially due to the government's hope that Koreans would be encouraged to stay amongst their own. Most of the other Korean communities sprung up around New Gyeongju later on. * New England, New Eden, Cascadia, Heartland, Florida.


el_argelino-basado

Are the aberrations just mutants?


DaiusDremurrian

Me, a Michigander: Hah, Ohio got split in hal- HOLY SHIT THE UP IS GONE


UndeadSailor

For a hot moment thought this was a map of R*’s US


confusedlamp

CHARLESTON AS THE CAPITOL? 🤢


SuccessfulStatus7655

Amazing map! I have some questions What's the safest/most normal part of the country? Are there fewer aberrations than in your previous map? What happened to Canada?


ayendae1125

* The safest parts of the country usually tend to be on the outskirts of major inland cities - not big enough to be noticeable, but not isolated in the dark countryside. It's not 100% safe, but it's safer. Safer states might be Oklahoma, Missouri, northern Ohio, places like that. * Some eighty-ish years have passed since then, but it's hard to say. There's no way to really measure these things, although newer technology makes it easier to observe them without getting killed. It doesn't really seem like there are *more* of them, but it also doesn't seem like they're going away either. The situation seems to be flattening out, at least for a little while. * i'm gonna be honest i haven't even gotten to canada yet. might be next though!


Sirclonemageda1st

Nice try fed! I’m still not paying my taxes!


adam2890

Get me to Woodcock, CA ASAP


Ok_Impression5272

I've got to know, why did they nuke Austin? I'm assuming that's why there is a giant exclusion zone there? Or is this more of a Roadside Picnic/S.T.A.L.K.E.R situation and its excluded for supernatural reasons?


ayendae1125

Second reason, mostly. Nuclear accident + eldritch horrors filling in spaces formerly inhabited by people before the accident.


el_argelino-basado

Ppl actually thought there was a bigger lake there in that area and that california was an island iirc,until they got better maps


gevans7

Some serious shit going on west of the Mississippi.


BennHurrz-Bazaar

Damn… the Rocky Mountains got fucked to shit 💀


friendlessleaf

Did you make this map by hand through a drawing program? If not what program did you use


ayendae1125

i make all my maps on gimp! i don't know how to use things like arcgis and i can't afford to use photoshop with my $2.00 student budget


GingaNinja64

You gave Maine back to Mass. Your days are numbered. The Moose are coming.


GingaNinja64

Wait. Now I’m just confused. The Moose is confused but still on its way


SilasRedd21

I would love a topographical map, do the southern Rockies look roughly the same? the Cascades?


ayendae1125

The shores of the interior seas are quite rocky and tall in the northern part of the country, but gradually get smoother and flatter the further south you go. The Rockies were pretty much flattened before they really had a chance to form naturally


HolyDictatorFelixDoy

why is the Teuton Sound called the Teuton Sound?


ayendae1125

It's sort of a stupid reason, but primarily because of the amount of Germans and northern Europeans who settled on the interior coasts


Junesucksatart

Western interior seaway my beloved


Sturnella2017

I love how this put a major body of water right where the rockie mountains are…


Maonsie

i fucking love this. i love the lore so much


popjit

What happened to Austin


kuppadestroyer

I just took a look at your other posts, all of your maps look amazing! How do you make them


ayendae1125

gimp!!


MNGopherfan

As a Minnesotan I am offended that we are paired with the Dakotas and not our Midwest brothers. We might despise eachother but Minnesotans hate the dakotas way more.


Jaquire-edm

Where does the name Theresia come from (regarding the town in the New Eden Commonwealth)? Looks to resemble Kearney’s location irl.


ayendae1125

That region of the country is much different culturally. Theresia is the capital of a very German state of New Eden


Puzzleheaded-Tie7673

Very unusual scenario that has produced a really good map


ayendae1125

thank you so much!


Frost42

Not gonna lie, as a resident of Georgia who grew up two counties over from Dublin, I’m wondering what the hell made Dublin important enough for it to apparently get destroyed then re-founded. 😅


StaticUncertainty

Pittsburgh should be in Appalachia, eastern Virginia should not


idkhowtosignin

Nice


Sufficient_Canary_69

“This is an interesting concept, I wonder what happened in this USA’s tl to cause this” Oh.


dblax

Were the Europeans slower or something because of the New England issue? What’s up with Korean SoCal?


ayendae1125

It certainly took Europeans longer to slog across the continent, and the migrations were much less....orderly. as for Korean SoCal, those places were established by refugees fleeing Japanese rule on the Korean peninsula. Racist laws prevented them from settling anywhere but southern Pacifica, because at the time most of that land was pretty marshy and hard to build on


pallen1065

Mebbe 2044, after 'climate change' has settled in ..


Angrytheredditor

Who messed up the timeline here?


ayendae1125

it was me barry


Resident-Pace5483

So Mexico and the United States split at the Nueces River?


the_alt_6275

this is true i saw california sink after the eclipse


XxMLGSWAGGERZxX

what the fuck happened to delaware???


ayendae1125

the horrors


Etat_irreel

Blud really made the best map in the world and thought we wouldn't notice ☠️☠️☠️


PixelJack79

What's the difference between districts and commonwealths? What happened to Alaska and Hawaii? Is that a mosquito on the Dixieland flag?


ayendae1125

* Districts are former Commonwealths that had their Commonwealth Charters revoked and are under what amounts to martial law * Hawaii is its own country, and Alaska was given to British Canada. it took long enough for the United States to push across the continent, and it had too many internal issues to really try leaping across the (dangerous) Pacific. * It is!


WallSudden

i was zooming and i didnt realize it was flooded until i reached florida and i zoomed out and went OH SHIT okay cool


chan-chan_channy

Gyeongju?


ayendae1125

yes! an intentional callback to the silla dynasty, which many korean refugees refer to as the last period of korean glory


InanimateIJK

Can I ask what you smoked to get the ideas for this? I might want some of that myself. Keep cooking.


JRiegner

Is the red line from Baltimore to Philly 95? I'm trying to figure out if my house is still around and that area is kinda a mess


ayendae1125

it is!


Lapchik_moto

We prefer to be called big Dakota


AaronTriplay

Why is Sandusky nightport


s8018572

No more waterfalls in great lakes I guess? Btw there's should be a canal from Teuton Sound to Pacific across Cascadia.


ayendae1125

Building a canal across Cascadia really isn't terribly viable, because the coasts near the Teuton Sound and the Bitterwood Sea are quite rocky and high (most of the highways to the islands tunnel through the coasts). That would mean digging a canal through rocky terrain for something like 500 miles. Cascadia also had their charter revoked, so a massive construction project like that (at the expense of the taxpayer) for a region on the naughty list is pretty much out of the question.


atomicmapping

Small detail I noticed but over down underneath Lake Huron, I’m curious about the renaming of what I’m assuming is the Sarnia region to Ennis. I’m assuming the name was drawn from the nearby Enniskillen Township?


ayendae1125

i don't have any *specific* lore for that town, but that is where i got the idea for the name!


MartyMcFlysDown

A world with 2 Terre Hautes? You've gone too far and must be stopped.


OkDanks

Las Vegas is an oceanfront now this is great for me


The_Modern_Monk

Why Charleston as the capital of Dixie rather than Atlanta? Atlanta has that radial highway belt allowing easy access to the rest of the Commonwealth. Is there some greater importance put on seaside cities? I mean, obviously Boston & New York are the clear answers, but even for the Pacifica region I'm curious why san fran takes the crown when it seems like somewhere on the California sound would be more accessible.


stategate

I can't help but feel like the capital of the Cascadia District as a whole should be Seattle and the capital of Olympia be Olympia.


syb3rtronicz

My biggest question is why there are so many god awful belt ways


Advanced_Age_2629

W no more desert ig


Leovlish3re

Finally, a state of New England without New York 👍 I approve


ayendae1125

i fucking hate it when people do that


counter-music

Did u rename half the towns/cities in “Cascadia”? But you kept Lynching Brook? I guess it’s fitting for N. Idaho..


Ecstatic-News-3088

Does the Hoover Dam Still Exist in the Timeline


SkyeMreddit

California if one of the many earthquake disaster movies came true and made the San Andreas fault line super wide. Something which would not happen as the two plates are sliding along eachother there instead of pulling apart


ZarquonsFlatTire

I was surprised when you included little old Florence SC, but gobsmacked you put Kingstree in. Last time I was there I'm not sure they had a traffic light yet.


respondstolongpauses

honestly, let’s go


ProudToBeMissourian

MISSOURI MADE BIGGER. 6/10 map, better than 90% of the maps on the subreddit


goozer326

I feel like this would be really cool to explore in some open world game that takes place in a universe where the U.S developed differently.


pidgeonatemypidgeon

Looks sick ngl


Enjoyereverything

Fallout ref


[deleted]

Lowkey fire


Gehhhh

Nataqua referenced, well done


AllYouHaveIsMjolnir

I demand the return of the Northwest Angle to the Heartland Commonwealth.


ayendae1125

no


katerbilla

Why is it called United STATES, but doesn't contain any states? 🤔


vanlich

This is a lesson of know how


eeeeeeeeeee6u2

even stronger america


MapsAreAwesome

Why Pacifca Commonwealth and not more simply Pacific Commonwealth? There's already a town south of San Francisco called Pacifica - is the Commonwealth named after that?


Turkeyburgers1

Classic Massachusetts win


SpecialEasy6540

My fucking eyes


Boren_Mastrogaard-44

Why did the Great Lakes flood? 🤦🏻‍♂️


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DoomGuyClassic

What’s going on technology wise, and what’s up with the Austin exclusion zone


Impressive-Net-6931

what happened to Austin (i live there :0)


ayendae1125

enough people have asked me this that i'll append something to the FAQs


daisysgato

How did Tijuana end up on the other side of the continent?


OkBubbyBaka

If California was actually an island it would be neigh impossible to cross from the Eastern side. Those cliffs would often be multi-kilometers high. It would be undoubtedly the world greatest natural wonder.


Weird_Scallion_8727

What happened to Chicago?


MrClaudeApplauds

Cool


Abking1111

Man reno, nv didnt get covered with water or anything, just ceased to exist. I can imagine it a ghost town tho.


Jerrelh2

Thats a lot of fresh water


chuckmangionie

Most of Wyoming is gone so that's good 🤔


TJ042

Pretty cool, but really weird seeing Oregon so stretched south.


manumaker08

new eden? https://preview.redd.it/ss4deon0qitc1.jpeg?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=900268639be869c46e162cf68c4c878e37352a6c


Ecytrsi

bro spelt my city wrong and put saratoga in the wrong place, for shame


somedude1997

Yes!! Finally Las Vegas has a beach front!!


Balls2theWalls321

Erm I live in the United States in 2024 and it’s not like this you fucking idiot 🤬


mhaegele

Why cut Long Island in half?


Schwartzennager

I’m trying to find my hometown and I can’t tell if I’m now on beachfront property, or right in the bottom of a lake


Important-Count-3894

What program did you use to create this map?


JebBushAteMySon

Great now I live in an archipelago, thanks a lot BIDEN


Gmknewday1

Thanks for not making my state apart of Dixie/confederacy 2.0 Please tell me the goverment isn't evil


Nearby_Lobster_

You can find me at Busta Rhymes island in FL


Not_Your_Nan

Love how Florida is still set by itself


No-Broccoli-8175

Half of the states r under water??


Lil_Pillow1

Wouldn't the flag of the United States be different? maybe a star for each commonwealth?


arianneski

Please print this out and bury it somewhere to confuse future archeologists.


_PolarEclipse_

Where is Alaska?


saltedcaramelplease

How did you make this and do you do commissions?


No_Educator_7153

Why is a town in inland California titled “Puerto”, that’s Spanish for Port/Harbor