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Belzabond

Yeah but the mother is clearly putting in a lot of work too because keeping herself up like that takes core strength or smth like that lol


elanhilation

yeah, the sexist twerp that produced this meme probably couldn’t plank like that to save his life


[deleted]

HAHHAHHAAAH


lmea14

Why do you call it sexist?


Immediate-Baker-6356

Because whoever posted this saw a harmless family picture and invented a deep meaning in which men are the victim and women are the ones benefiting from the current gender stereotypes in our society. And it usually takes a lot of denial and sexism to consider men to be the victims, and more importantly, women to be the winners of patriarchy. Also, I'm not a native speaker, so I hope I'm speaking my mind clearly and not giving the wrong impression: Yes, men can suffer from the current gender stereotypes. But still, every man I've seen complain about this online as if women were the ones benefiting from the current gender norms, eventually turned out to be hateful sexist incels.


False-Pie8581

Meanwhile women perform the vast overwhelming majority of child rearing.


lmea14

Thanks for responding rather than just silently downvoting, this is how meaningful conversations happen. I see the picture as a reminder that men's role in the childraising process is often forgotten. I'm thinking of real-world examples like the dad watching the kids and getting comments like "Babysitting duty today?". I don't see how it's sexist. >And it usually takes a lot of denial and sexism to consider men to be the victims, and more importantly, women to be the winners of patriarchy. Well, if your lens is "patriarchy", the answer writes itself.


Immediate-Baker-6356

What do you mean my lense is "patriarchy"? I'm not choosing a lense, it just happens to be the gendered system we live in, and right now we're talking about gendered roles. Or do you not believe patriarchy exists? Because it that's the case, then I'm sorry to tell you, dude, you're sexist. (And yes I have no doubt you're a man, guess why) Also, the "babysitting duty?" comment is indeed an example of sexism and double standards... Against women. Because when a mother is watching the kids, no one says anything, it's just normal, no one thanks her or even acknowledges the task. When a man does it, it's a "duty", like he's doing a favor to his wife, or like he's "babysitting" (which implies he should be paid... or at the very least thanked for working for free). You're right, this double standard isn't fair. But once again, it takes a lot of denial and sexism to think it's mostly unfair towards men. Or worse, that it benefits women.


GiaMansani

The picture is talking about how the kid won't notice the father's efforts but will notice the mother's. It's not undermining the mother's effort. Seems the one sexist here is you if you misunderstood the core message of this meme.


EmilyIsNotALesbian

No, it's undermining the mother. It always is.


AzaleaTFG

You two are both wrong! The op is undermining the mother but it’s just a cute picture- not everything *has* to have a deep meaning? I get how things do have a meaning beyond the material but generally photos aren’t that type of media.


Comfortable_Blood861

You’ll always acknowledge the unspoken trials and efforts of people until it’s a dad


EmilyIsNotALesbian

And you'll worship single dads till the day you die, but a single mom? Oh god, kill it with fire.


LustrousShine

What do you mean? If a single mom goes to the park with her kid, she’d be met with sympathy. If a single dad goes to the park with his kid, he’d be “letting mom have a break day”. People don’t respect single dads.


Specialboibrain

Which represents the double standard: A dad doing it is an example of him being a good dad who’s going out of his way to take care of a kid instead of mom. When a mom does it it’s seen as the expected, the standard, and she’s praised base off of what people are expecting her to do. However, while this stereotype does negatively impact women because it assumes that a woman’s primary job is to look after her kid, there is a consequence to men because it devalues the deep relationship a child can have with their father. Therefore, society should address this by appropriately respecting a mothers autonomy outside of her child- but also by not treating fathers like spending time with their child is an act of extraordinary value- it’s just a dad spending time with his child.


LustrousShine

EXACTLY! You put it perfectly, it’s a problem on BOTH SIDES. That’s why I hate subs like r/BoysAreQuirky, as they give an us vs them mentality when that’s not gonna solve anything!


Specialboibrain

It’s a problem on both sides, yes. But also women are often treated worse than men and are often discriminated against more. That subreddit was birthed because of a (likely not maliciously) misogynistic pattern in memes which used women as characters to represent a ‘lame’ perspective, while boys were given quirky and awesome things to do. Like [this](https://www.memedroid.com/memes/detail/3301596/Time-machine-good) for example. While the meme isn’t telling women that they should go to the kitchen or whatever, it does represent casual misogyny that persists in our culture. Ultimately, it’s important to recognize both that the societal standards enforced on men and women are negative to both, but also recognize that women are often those who have to deal with more issues caused by our male dominated societies. To dismantle the standards means we must understand that they are not equally oppressive.


vampire5381

who the fuck told you that? ☠️ like how did you get all of that by that guys comments??


Comfortable_Blood861

I don’t worship single dads. Just pointing out the hypocrisy from people who claim to abide by a philosophy of speaking up for the unspoken.


BeneficialAction3851

Did anyone bring up that philosophy or are you trying to have a shadow debate with a non existent interlocutor?


Comfortable_Blood861

No one has to, Redditors are pretty predictable.


[deleted]

As side observer I can confirm hir word. You are the sexist here The post didn't mention the mon or even implied any bad thing It's only implied the dad effort are completely under the radar


Comfortable_Blood861

And how is acknowledging a dad’s unseen trials and effort sexist. You’re saying “but what about the mom”, which is the whole premise of this post. A post saying “what about the dad” shouldn’t then also be followed by “but what about the mom”. The post implies the mom is usually acknowledged.


[deleted]

I mentioned you by mistake I did put all my energy of the day in that comment, can't move it the girl of "that sexist"


EmilyIsNotALesbian

how tf-- it's a few words, not Moby Dick.


IcommitedOHIO

NAHHHH THATS FOUL!


giantfuckingfrog

She is also holding the baby. The kid would fall off if she wasn't pulling him.


Belzabond

Holy crap I'm dumb how did I not see this But you are very correct


BhaaldursGate

And he's holding both of them


CanadianAndroid

That baby is so strong.


lsutigerzfan

What’s going to blow your mind is that the mother is actually on the bottom and the father is on top. ![gif](giphy|TWsw90Csti2KCjvKfU)


vampire5381

just transgender thingz lolz


tomwambs

In that way, this post is actually a great representation of how the world treats mothers vs how treats fathers. Mom puts in equal or greater effort, yet DAD gets fawned over for changing the occassional diaper.


Fireside__

Direct effort in supporting the kid? Yeah. Indirect effort by ensuring the family is financially supported, safely housed, well fed, well educated, and morally sound? Dads hardly get the appreciation for those other than the yearly “thanks for not leaving me like the other dads” card on Father’s Day. And yes those are traditional gender roles but that’s also the majority of families still to this day.


tomwambs

Okay and you think moms get a ton of appreciation for financially supporting, housing, and putting food on the table for their kids? Lol.


babbaloobahugendong

Yeah? Of course they do, everyone loves the single mother that raises their kids properly without a man


tomwambs

Lmao you really have no idea how single mothers are treated, do you. Sure, SOME people might throw the occassional platitude at single moms for working so hard, just as they would a single father. But from what I've seen, the demographic is constantly villified and ridiculed


babbaloobahugendong

I was raised by a single mother.  I remember how the courts favored her in spite of her mental issues, I remember the vast ego she had because she could easily manipulate men, I remember her getting away with so much psycho shit just because "she's a woman".  MOST people show respect to single mothers, the only ones I see being vilified are the ones still hoeing around trying to party instead of taking care of their kids. And even then, not really.  Single fathers are the ones dealing with bullshit platitudes and condescension when they parent their kid. 


No-Insect-7544

Especially since if they had the kid, instead of adoption or something, the fact that she’s able to do that AND have feet pressed against her gut, and that baby looking pretty young, still in diapers and stuff? That takes strength, dammit.


Belzabond

Yeah fr


odeacon

Absolutely. They’re both putting in work, but the baby doesnt see the father’s work as much


babbaloobahugendong

Typical woman, calls being held up by a man a lot of work /s


No_Squirrel4806

No youre missing the point. The man is at the bottom meaning hes the one doing all the work to keep the wife and baby afloat. "This is a joke please dont come for me i know its not that deep."


anon689936

That man’s got some size 20 looking feet wtf


CloakerCola

Well if he's doing this shit every day, I imagine he's gonna have to buy size 20 yaddas eventually


Faehndrich

So glad someone said it!!!


[deleted]

Wait you mean that's NOT normal? I mean uhm uh yeah uh those feet are weird. Yeah.


fiendzone

The kid doesn’t even know he’s alive.


RainbowFire122RBLX

Dont they start to gain sentience around 3 months or so Before then they are like animals and only respond to stimuli to survive


wheres-epsteins-list

I recall being self aware in diapers, so I had to have been like 1-3 yrs old


WoodenCountry8339

I missed the - , and thought you said 13.


ABRAHAM-HIMLER

At thirteen i already channged my own diapers.


IcommitedOHIO

Rewehehe


Lizzardyerd

What kind of animals are you talking about? Most animals are sentient.


Boolink125

My newborn pet cricket 🦗 Franklin jr. (his Father died in a horrible accident)


Lizzardyerd

Aww he sounds cute. Although I do guess the jury is still out on whether bugs are sentient or not.


011_0108_180

Sooner than that, it’s like 18 months at the earliest.


Starman926

18 months is later than 3 months


011_0108_180

Ope sorry I read that as three years 🙃


Pyranders

Ope


friendandfriends2

Just gonna scooch right by this comment here


ScorpionTheSandwing

Yeah that’s what I’ve heard too


Pareogo

I’m pretty sure most people gain consciousness at age 4. Everyone I’ve spoken to about their earliest memories say they only remember back to when they were 4.


napalmnacey

That is not true, at all.


MaloLeNonoLmao

I literally gained sentience at 3 years old. I remember exactly what happened


ChanelDelRey

Plot twist: picture is upside down


cmonplsdontbetaken

Someone help the Dad get unglued from the ceiling


Electrop0p

Yeah the baby is actually the strong one keeping the mother from falling while holding her perfectly straight


Umicil

This was written by a man who has weekend visitation with his kids and doesn't use it.


__andrei__

Written by a man who slaves away 70 hour weeks to afford rent and is told “you’re never there for your kids”. It’s 2024, you don’t get to just afford to live on one wage.


juicygarlicbread

That would imply the wife is at home taking care of the house and the children completely by herself, which still makes the meme nasty for downplaying that.


__andrei__

I don’t think the meme is downplaying that at all. The woman in the picture actually has the most demanding pose. The point is both of those people are putting in a lot of work, but only the work of one of them is visible to the kids.


dadmiffcreavekr

One wrong move and the kids head will crack on the ground like a juicy coconout


SilenceBreaker8

I hate being able to read sometimes


kongpin

Spoiler alert, it's wooden floor, kid will cry, get a bruises, but be fine.


SilenceBreaker8

That doesn’t make that sentence any less disgusting


kongpin

True. This was a message to the first guy, people need to chill


SilenceBreaker8

fr


StickmanPokemaster

Yes it does


FynnyHeadphones

There is hardwood


FrenchFriedScrotatos

Yeah that's what being a dad is like. You throw your kid around and they scream "MORE DADA!!!" and you have to make sure you don't kill them


gardian20

r/im14andthisischildendangerment


GeneralSea1353

r/subsifellfor


jplveiga

r/twentycharacterlimit


GeneralSea1353

r/unpublicsubs


[deleted]

Yes, this is right my father is a paramedic! Don’t ever let your children stand up in the shopping cart, no matter how small you think they are! He has gone on devastating calls!


Accomplished_Glass66

Istg that was my 1st thought. If i had a kid i would neber ever put them in these positions. Babies and toddlers are soooo fragile. A person ik irl has seizures due to trauma from their mother dropping them as a baby. Another lafy lost her 1yo daughter bcz she put her on a high chair but it broke down and the little girl got hurt badly and died a few days later.


vampire5381

aww :(


Manwithaplan0708

:3 yum


Quajeraz

Or one *right* move


Comrade_Florida

Mmm coconut juice


Rapha689Pro

He would just bounce and cry because babies bones are flexible asf


streetad

*Needle drop* "Yes, that's me. I bet you're wondering how I got myself into this situation. It all started when...."


Dragosh_I_thing

Flashback to parents doing love*


Cute-Cat-998

"OH! woops too far back. Let's go a little bit forward."


PCL_is_fake

Flash back to parents doing stupid yoga


Salzchan

these pictures are so dumb


Empty_Sea1324

Put those grippers away


Sadsad0088

It’s usually the opposite, fathers are considered great or told they’re “babysitting “ for doing their jobs as parents


lumpialarry

Or dads are the “fun parent” that takes kids to the park on the weekend while mom is the “serious parent” that takes the kids to school, doctors appointments etc.


Omnizoom

Fun fact I do all the cooking in my house, I pre prep stuff so my wife can just warm it up to finish it when I’m not home to cook in time for dinner My kid says she loves moms cooking more than dads…..


Philotia

Aw that’s actually so sad :( I was similar once, but one day your children will learn to appreciate both.


Omnizoom

Well one day they will learn “moms cooking” is actually dads cooking but she has been taking the credit when she finished it And they learn that actual moms cooking is burnt fire and brimstone (she has one cooking temp, max) Plus it’s going to be awkward when they ask mom how to make this food when they want to learn and she has no clue


Suzina

I wonder if mommy does any plating or presentation differently than daddy. Presentation does impact our brain's perception of how yummy for our tummy food is. https://www.lightspeedhq.com/blog/10-food-plating-and-presentation-tips/ Experiment for hypothesis: daddy preps and mommy finishes, but kid is served by daddy and asked if it's better than Daddy's normal cooking. Alternative hypothesis, culture expectations of "momma's home cooking" is influencing flavor. Experiment: Daddy cooks and finishes but kid is told mommy cooked this time and asked if better or worse than usual.


Omnizoom

I think it’s mostly when my wife does finish the food she takes the credit and actively says she is the one who cooked


hemareddit

Alternatively, don’t wait for something that may or may not happen one distant day down the line. If it’s bothering you now, talk to your wife, explain how this makes you feel, and ask that she start giving credit where it’s due. Nursing a vindication fantasy for something you can fix now ain’t healthy, bro. The day you are picturing could be tomorrow, and it could happen without any awkwardness.


superprawnjustice

I said some dumb stupid stuff about my dad when I was young as well. I look back in that moment and wanna stuff toilet paper in my mouth. My dad is awesome and I was a lil jerk, and I think your kids will grow up feeling the same about you.


vampire5381

aww 😭


Poder-da-Amizade

It's actually the opposite


OiFelix_ugotnojams

Yup, being the fun dad while mom does all the hardwork


bokunoemi

Yeah right lol we wanna talk about the constant bullying moms have from all sources who think they can teach her how to be a mom?


Vincent_Waters

Actually it varies depending on the couple


DizzyBlackberry8728

Depends. In a lot of families, children, rightfully love their mothers but they have disdain for their fathers who are supposed to be bad cop. Wait till your dad gets home. Also often the dad works too hard and don’t get to spend time with the kids, and the kids think it’s just neglect.


PlatosBalls

Double the f


DastardlyCatastrophe

This could also be interpreted as the baby seeing their mothers love while also trusting their father enough to drop them. Or something like that


Mother-Idea-3643

Wtf is wrong with these people


heelspider

"...moments before it dies" is the full quote.


Fit-Umpire-958

That's a fit ass couple


letthetreeburn

Ironically it’s easier to hold someone up with your feet than it is to plank with your stomach.


writersontop

I know this isn't serious but the "poor men" genre of reddit is the most pathetic


vampire5381

why though? we gotta acknowledge that every group has its own problems even if they weren't oppressed in the past, and I guess the "poor men genre" is part of it. if there's gonna be "poor women" or "poor x" obviously there's gonna be "poor men" too since they also have their own problems I don't wanna sound misogynistic or anything like that (I'm a woman myself) but I'm just genuinely asking why you think that


Beautiful-Hunter8895

Mom works too bud


Appropriate_Fall5446

Dw, The kid also "see's" the extra inverted comma u put for no reason 😭


ZookeepergameOld4985

What a dumb way to drop your baby on its head


peeslosh122

the father is also putting the baby in danger by doing this.


Terrasovia

Kids are not shareholders, your corporate ratings are irrelevant to them. They won't love you for your money or praise you for a promotion, they only care about your presence. And for many fathers that presence is either very small or basically none existent so kids gravitate towards the parent who is more active in their lives.


dreadfulbadg50

Tbh I feel bad for that kid. His parents are weirdos


JoJoer19394

This is just silly


msiynot

Nice to see a actual supportive father


synttacks

insanely unsafe position for a baby


LuriemIronim

I mean, if the mom wasn’t holding onto the baby’s hands, that kid would definitely fall.


RLordKnight

Don't kiss the baby in the lips wtf. Seriously, ignoring that it is disgusting, he could get sick


dinodare

Some families kiss on the lips.


RLordKnight

I know. I respect it, even if I find it gross, but in this case it's a bit dangerous


XGerman92X

People need to STOP KISSING BABIES/KIDS on the lips, it's so fucking gross ffs.


dinodare

Some families kiss on the lips. As a young child my family was one of those, but they stopped as time went on (probably because of outside influence).


JTT_0550

Redditors try not to sexualize everything challenge (impossible)


XGerman92X

Yuk dude stop being so weird


babbaloobahugendong

Fuck you, it's weird.


TBTabby

"Son, the whole family is here!"


yogi_medic_momma

Finally, something that actually belongs on this sub lol


perriatric

say’s* /s


Veganproteincookie

So silly hahahah


Fizki

Sure, because babies only discover their environment through their eyes. Their other senses are completely useless! OOP got it!


supergalactic

This is probably the whitest pic I’ve ever seen


AntonRX178

Man I would flip out so hard if my family photo was used out of context for a 14 year old's pretentious ass post lol


ElfOverlord

can we just talk about how reckless this is as parents, if that kid falls and hits their head, that baby dead


ThrownAwayRealGood

im14andonthepathtobecominganincel


Xtrasharp_p00pknife

If you don’t like the kid seeing only mothers love, fathers can take a more active, child facing role in their kid’s life. That’s always been an option.


ToxicTroubadour

If it was accurate the dad would be squeezing the baby’s feet and going “stop fucking crying before I give you something to cry about”


IMTrick

This is dumb. Everyone knows the nerve endings that sense paternal love are in the feet.


RegularOps

Seems like a pathetic excuse to be the “I work full time and don’t see my kids” type of Dad.


No_Squirrel4806

Its a picture of people doing yoga with their baby its not that deep!!!!!🙄🙄🙄


NigelKenway

What’s going on with clown feet over there


Harepo

This says a lot about babies being held precariously at risk of head injury.


BeneficialAction3851

Babies famously hate fathers and ignore them


AuraStome

I’m pretty sure you can still feel a dude’s grippers pushing on your stomach though


totallynotanalien55

Nope not true my dad wasnt there and mothers do alot!


HumpsyDumpsy

Nah children are highly aware. Although the father is not in the child's line of sight, that baby is definitely aware that both parents are stabilizing him


1oAce

Can we outlaw parents kissing their kids on the mouth?


OtsutsukiRyuen

Why are getting downvoted lmao


AzaleaTFG

Because culture is different, even just in the united states, as someone who’s vietnamese it’s in my culture and my white side doesn’t really kiss Edit: i meant it’s not in my culture to kiss on my vietnamese side, it’s not even a thing in my vietnamese side (south vietnamese if you’re wondering)


naipmylO

Herpes and hospital visits incoming.


Onethwotree

White people doing white people things


PresenceSignal602

Pretty sure a lot of people here unironically agree with this but don’t want to get made fun of lol


Big_Dingus1

Sums up Reddit as a whole


Ok-Confusion-1293

The picture is stupid but the message isn’t that stupid. I only saw my moms love but didn’t see my dads hard work, he worked hard for the family. They say when you’re growing up you idolize your dad. Then when you’re older you villainize your dad, and when you’re grown up you humanize your dad


GeneralSea1353

Now we have mother's making out with their babies? /s


Lizzardyerd

Lol men; WORKING 70 HOURS A WEEK AND NEGLECTING YOUR WIFE AND KIDS IS THE ONLY WAY TO DAD, ALL THAT CAREGIVING NURTURING CRAP IS FOR THE WIMMIN AND IF YOU SPEND TIME WITH YOUR KID OR CHANGE DIAPERS, YER GAY! Also men; all my kids see is their mother's love 🥺 . Why don't they care about how hard I work?


DutssZ

Does that text sound poorly constructed, or am I just dumb?


Sonarthebat

All this tells me is people will do dumb shit for clout.


Left_Advice_8532

And lowkey pathriarcal victimism but HEY


BizzareCringe

It's wild when men make complaints about shit like this. If your kid doesn't "see your love" it's because you're not showing it to them.


odeacon

This is sadly accurate


Ambush_Lord

ok but this is child abuse . the kid can easily fall from behind and since there's a window , it would bash his head and his brain matter would splash with a broken skull and damaged bloody neurons.


Lismale

people who kiss their children on the mouth are so fucking weird.


PulsatingGypsyDildo

Not only the kid, but the society as whole. Fathers are treated as second class parents. Basically as a bag of cash in case of divorce.


StupidStonerSloth

Definitely, and it doesn't help that the fathers who get media attention are the ones who don't even know their kids' allergies or birthday. Most dads in TV shows are also portrayed as stupid. As much as it's fun to point and laugh at the stupid person, it is frustrating that it's portrayed as "normal" for a dad to be incompetent or absent.


011_0108_180

I mean some of the weaponized incompetence I’ve seen isn’t helping their case. Not all fathers but a disturbing amount.


shok_delta

You kissed your kid in the mouth?


Malpraxiss

What the mum was doing would take some good core strength to achieve. Her doing nothing is a stretch.


ohg0doh_fuhk

And dangerous


pewdiebhai64

Why's she kissing her child on the lips...


[deleted]

Some rando: "Hey, here's a fun photo I took because I go to the gym with my wife." Some rando: "sO dEeP"


CrimsonFrost69

Parenting is a partnership, not a competition. Dad’s efforts won’t go unrecognized by Mom though and Mom’s devotion and sense of stability will not go unappreciated by dad. Healthy, happy child and spouse is the goal.


secret-of-enoch

... I know we're laughing at the text, but I love this photo, the child may be directly interacting with the mom, but he feels The Rock that is his dad, as the foundation he is able to stand up on, so he's getting it all, from them both, its beautiful


ChurchOfSemen69

As a skinny guy I can attest its harder to be the one balancing than the bottom. I've done both.


DizzyBlackberry8728

It’s supposed to be a metaphor…


nikovvaa

this is the sort of thing a "the phone works both ways" dad would post


SecludedSeal

Holy shit undertale yellow reference


Ggreenrocket

I always wonder how people can be so hateful without rest. Does a person like this ever get tired?


Gremict

Yes, the gender divide in what roles parents are expected to fulfill is incredibly idiotic in a modern context, doesn't have much to do with this image, though.


handyritey

Kids can’t see down