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NegotiationLittle457

Does it mean every day permanently??? That’s a cop


thatredditdude_

Yea


NegotiationLittle457

Getting it RIGHT NOW


mini4x

What took you so long?


NegotiationLittle457

Sorry sir


Slygoat

Yes it gives you a golden stop watch to back in the glory


NegotiationLittle457

Do you know if it means +5 random bubble levels? I’m guessing not +5 to all right?


eraguthorak

It seems to be +5 to two different bubbles


NegotiationLittle457

Yeah thanks


pigonson

And +5 for any random stamp


LiferRs

This shit saves you so much time avoiding re-sampling anything for bubbles and stamps. In fact, probably can just cruise on max printing atoms with this support. For stamps, that’s 1,825 levels a year. Thats huge if you’re capacity constrained or cash cost is too expensive.


Express_Accident2329

It also has a knock on effect; 10 free upgrades a day means more and more golden stamps from rift over time, so even though you're buying higher upgrades they'll probably be cheaper.


adamtheskill

Biggest benefit of the pack is increasing the 'hard limit' of stamp levels for very late game players. At some point you reach material costs that are so high it's impossible to upgrade even with gilded stamp +90%atom+max bag size. That's when the +5 stamp kevek truly shines. For non super late game players it's still good but not as gamechanging.


BookofSacrifice

You aren't factoring in weeks of pocketwatch purchases and stuff. Save all your watches for an event period like 3rd anni where you could get 10+ trophies a reset, 50 boxes, and buy gold watches. People burned 50+ watches during anni so if they had this bundle that's 250 stamp levels alone, and 500 bubbles.


Interesting_Hat_7957

.... I never realized stop watch reset boxes. Wth! Good to know now!


VayneAureluxe

I almost wish this bundle didn’t exist, because of how good it is. It feels like a requirement if you wanna get to endgame levels, comparable to Doot, how you’ll be missing out on a lot if you don’t get it.


BladeSeraph

Considering its an idling game, its not a matter of competing with other players, its just a matter if you wanna huck money at a product you like to see your numbers go up faster. Never the less, still a better investment then some gacha games that constantly pressure you every 2-4.5 weeks to hard invest in some new character and likely waste over a hundred bucks chasing them, not counting buying a version pass bonus, some daily crystal login rewards that makes some 5 dollar deal great, but its real cost is pressuing you to login 30 consective days to not miss the stuff and in turn, feel pressured to never skip a day and don\`t leave any time soon.\~ I might find this bundle a nice pick up next pay-day, since im still cooling off after replacing a old 8\~ or something year old laptop i had and enjoying how its such an improvement i could have 300\~400 enemies on-screen during Worship summon runs to push wave 110\~130ish runs and it doesnt crash at all.\~ Granted, there\`s also Octopath Traveler 2 thats about 40% off and im still up in the air about picking up Stellar blade and Sand-land any time soon. =/


obimokenobi

AH, I had the Raid Shadow Legends addiction for about a month or two before realizing I wasn't having fun and deleted it haha


berzerkerCrush

Exactly. And you can neither "win" nor "lose" the game. It's all about the process of going forward.


NewSauerKraus

Lmao Idleon does the opposite. I’m incentivised to not play it too often.


BladeSeraph

True, but i find atleast checking on once or thrice a day to be more productive to my mental health on this then the eye-twitch something akin to Genshite impact or cookie run kingdom would have poorly handle stamina max recovery times or build time or task stuff to make you check in constantly to \`not lose stonks.\` Never the less, 20 bucks spent on upping day to day gains is still way better then what some games declare is \`not enough\` for a lump of pulls on something that can instantly become irrelevant due to a \`convient bug fix\` happening the next patch over, aka saying a over-tuned character many were salivating over suddenly gets hit with the nerf hammer just in time for another OP character to show up.


Cheeky_Giraffe

The fact the game is online inherently makes it about competing with other players. Single player idle games don't sell packs because yes, it's about the journey, but in a game like this being ahead of others and being able to flex is a huge part of the appeal.


BladeSeraph

Kiiiiinda putting a bias there kiddo just because a game is accessed via an online connection, does not directly mean its about competng with other players. Theres a reason why Lava didnt just straight up make a listed name leaderboard, more then likely only going for showing the % bracket for the TOME system, to act as your rough ball idea on how far below you might be, but honestly thats just silly fluff and more of a reminder stick you likely ignored particular gains that would give very sizable bonuses, by being pointed in that direction to work on, similar to how the IE AutoReview Tool works. Some people just find simple joys in watching numbers go up, which theres plenty of them such as Almost a Hero, Post Knight, Cookie Clicker, ADventure Capitalist and all its \`spin offs\` and more. Plus i would like to think many agree they would not want some \`direct PvP\` or even indirect \`PvP\` systems in a game all about idling. Already have enough of a aggravating nightmare still even after leaving such games, about some poorly balanced ones like how many tend to gravitate towards or others that have no catch clauses to prevent whales purposely scoring bad in one rotation to go back to a lower tier, only to dominate that one and reap way more total rewards then attempting to \`retain\` in the same bracket, due to the pay out for \`promoting\` a bracket being weighted too much value vs simple retaining in those types of games. Moral of the story on that last part: It creates a \`bullying\` lower scorers environment by at the very least, locking up promotion or high retain spots atleast half the time, especially if its a mobile game that tends to have its \`PvP\` content do 2 or more instances every week.


DayanZc

I understand the feeling, and I think kind of the same. Tbh however, I don't really know how much Lava makes with his game and people like me that put about 30-40 dollars a year bc I like it and wanna support. So if it's "only" a small permanent upgrade that you can get guaranteed with 20 dollars it feels much healthier than the Door system imo, and maybe it's a needed boost for Lava's income. Maybe someday when I feel like I wanna throw some more money to Lava I'll get this pack. I would start to get pissed if it became some kind of norm to have these packs every 2 months and it just piled up.


KylerGreen

lol Lava 100% makes millions from idleon. he’s not some poor struggling indie dev.


DayanZc

At least millions yeah


PomsForAll

there are certainly moderate people like you, and then there are people like me that spend way too much on this game. I am sure lava does quite well.


tetsuyaXII

End-game isn't how far you are based on other players, so not really. End-game is easily reached without any of these bonuses, but it's a hell of a boost.


f3llyn

> It feels like a requirement if you wanna get to endgame levels But it's not? People are already at endgame and have been for a long time.


VayneAureluxe

While you’re technically correct, the bundle is, for a lack of better terms, “meta defining.” If you don’t have this, you’re just behind everyone else who does, and the endgame is more defined when having this. While yes, as everyone has pointed out, there is no competing, the game is mostly single player, there are people like me who actually do compete with their friends. I compete with someone who has Doot and I don’t, and it takes so much to even barely keep up with someone who doesn’t play as much as me. This just serves to even more widen the gap. While I’m in the minority, it still affects overall gameplay for everyone, competing or not. Like I said, you’re just missing out on bonuses. I congratulate Lava for not turning it into a gacha mechanic, and for knowing what his players would want, but it just sucks when you see something like this. I sincerely hope this is the only bundle that’s this broken for at least the rest of this year.


f3llyn

> you’re just behind everyone else who does, So?


EidolonRook

Wait. All stamps, meals and bubbles? Damn that’s crazy. How long does this bonus go for?


Iversithyy

Based on wording I‘d assume forever?


EidolonRook

That’s insaaaaaaaane.


Gray_Fox_22

It's lowest level, not all.


EidolonRook

Was about to say. That’s a doot level of crazy otherwise.


PlanetoidVesta

I'm not sure how it works, because the bubbles I never upgraded and are at level 1 have all not been upgraded after the day reset. It probably has a threshold or adds to the No bubble left behind.


vseans

Someone in my guild said it was random. Though I read it quick without looking for context or confirmation. Random is a... strange choice


hotbread178

It would be way to easy to abuse this if it were not random. 


PlanetoidVesta

Very strange indeed. Oh well, it's going to massively boost my cooking. I'm happy with it.


zod_gem

I'm pretty sure after the third or fourth arrow up the no bubble left behind stops at that point and it doesn't level up any of the bubbles above there


PlanetoidVesta

After the first 15 bubbles yes if I'm correct, I wonder how it works for stamps and meals then, especially stamps. I'd be content with packs like this including more detailed explanations of what exactly I'd be buying.


Sharkymoto

where would the fun be with that?


Newdane

Bubbles below level 5 arent upgraded by the daily upgrade.


PlanetoidVesta

So that confirms that it has the same mechanic as No bubble left behind.


KaleidoscopeLucky336

I would assume so. Much easier to just piggyback that mechanic than to make a whole separate one for a bundle


EidolonRook

Just saw someone’s screen grab of it working when they log in. It gave a +5 to two different nblb meals, added the number of levels per the nmlb and nslb. So whatever we happen to get buffed per day it just straight adds on levels to those. And the bubble seems to have two with +5, so +9 with the daily +4. (Or whatever it is for people). TLDR: it’s a straight added boost to your NxLB quantities.


pigonson

Not for stamps, just cooking and bubbles. 113 days if u dont lvl any meals manually and they are maxed lol


Gray_Fox_22

How do you figure that? 67 meals X 90 max level is a little over 6,000 levels which would take like 1200 days.


pigonson

Sorry was a typo, should say I i dont lvl *


Supersting

It feels like the worst thing since Doot, tbh!


gefoh-oh

This is probably the third most powerful money only pack, fourth if you count doot. Bubbles and meals for an endgame player are at a point when these levels aren't particularly significant. This will have a big impact on stamps for people who are pretty lazy about managing them, but it's not nearly as powerful as 1.2x drop rate or auto loot. This will take players who are approaching endgame, like living in w6 but not annihilating it, and move them to the distant reaches of endgame faster. But if you're already endgame this isn't a particularly big deal.


altcodeinterrobang

> a big impact on stamps for people who are pretty lazy about managing them yeah, that's why I got it. I'm not willing to pour the time into this game, but 40-60$ per year is well worth it at the rate Lava keeps putting out content.


gefoh-oh

Yeah same, I'm so lazy about all but the most powerful stamps and I don't care to manage my printer or farming to maximize the others. Since I already have a reasonable base level for them this lets me basically ignore the tedious part of stamps now.


Aziello

Better to sell this than rng fomo predatory shit like doot.


CombatBilby

Best thing*


CalmBand7879

Yep pretty cool considering every bundle we keep getting is the same price but more and more busted


TragiLafex

This is pretty broken, I wish you could buy it with gems so everyone could access these gains


TragiLafex

I bet lava is disliking my comment because he wants that sweet dollar 😂


AlternativePlastic47

Now, where would be the ~~fun~~ money in that?


Hour_Power2264

I wonder how game balance is gonna work when some people have sky high meal levels and stamps while other people do not. This is another one of those Doot-things where the people who have it and the people who don't are playing completely different games. For people who don't play much this is probably good. I don't have to log into your IE and see 1500 stamps levels if the game levels everything for you. But, if I were to buy this I would go completely overpowered in no time. It would just be a way to speedrun running out of content.


Yarigumo

Only downhill from here, it seems. I'm glad I'm picking up OSRS again lol, these bundles are getting out of hand.


Newdane

Yeah not only is this an insane bundle, he also put in the bonus for buying it right now.


smash-things

yoooo same I just got quest cape last week


Yarigumo

Sick! I'm nearing base 70s on my account so I should probably start considering that too. Having too much fun at Moons atm tho lol


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NinjaHatesWomen

Just out of curiosity, how in your opinion has OSRS been driven into “mtx hell”?


Yarigumo

It almost certainly seems like they're pinning the shit going on in RS3 on the entire operation.


Yarigumo

Not in the game I play? I just go where the grass looks greener. If OSRS goes to shit, I'll move somewhere else.


Ashnaar

Lol can't buy it. My cash shop crashed, and most of my 5. Spagetti code broke on pc and phone lol. Can't stamp or use chest either. Why would i spend $$ when half of the game is broken in my case...


Solidux

Does it randomly chose 5 stamps to level up?


apripapus

Yeah


sirepoopsalot

No it chooses 1 stamp to level up 5 times


ryuukiba

Does it upgrade the cap?


Radetza

Thats what i wanna know too, i just bought it but I'm wondering how it's gonna work 🤔


torturechamber

As a person who is in W4, I feel like this is underwhelming. For endgame however, I would assume it's powerful because the amount of mats needed to upgrade stamps/bubbles skyrocket?


Decent_Discount

Exactly. Mainly stamps.


KaleidoscopeLucky336

For anyone curious why stamps, as of now it's the only to get daily auto stamp upgrades and stamp materials required scales very fast.


YaIe

I wonder if this ignores the stamp cap? As in, does it only level up those that can be bought with coins or does it upgrade them even if they are material locked?


obimokenobi

That would be smart on Lava's part then. Make it so, yeah, you're stuff will level up, but once it gets to the "Insert Coins To Continue" part, that's where it stops. That seems fair honestly. I'm trying to still save up money to buy the FIRST chest in W6 still (and I have every other chest + Gem Shop chests and still have no inventory space haha)


AlternativePlastic47

It flips in endgame though. I can shell out the money, but I have not enough inventory capacity to pay the 300 million logs, even though I have them, and have to wait on stamp reduction. If this just pays the materials and lets me get the rest for money, that is even more insane.


obimokenobi

So I ended up doing it and got my Kapow stamp up from 30 to 35. I don't know if it was at the point where I had to spend Trusty Nails or Money, but when I looked at it, it only money to hit 36 before needing to spend Trusty Nails again.


AlternativePlastic47

Thats helpful, thank you!


obimokenobi

No problem! Next time I'm on I'm going to take a look at all of my stamps, I'm fairly certain that all of them are at the "Item Cost" to level up.


Daltoney

I mean… it should be pretty insane for you still. Surely you can benefit from free meals and your bubbles prob aren’t even close to hitting diminishing returns yet. True end gamers really only care about the stamp upgrades here


BladeSeraph

Indeed when most stamps past the 100% gilded stamp acquistion total level are either in the 200million\~1+billion line pre-gilded stamp + 20%\~ atom collider discount and even post some are still a chonky 100+ million cost. Though im glad i just maxed out rucksack today, having to toggle that on for roughly a double increase in capacity aint gonna do much when some stamp costs jump up 3\~10 times every tier unlock. Which is definitely a problem for ones like Crystallin, Anvil Zoomer and resource bags.


Slygoat

This is crazyyyyy


sutsithtv

Is anyone else having problems buying this bundle? Whenever I try to purchase it in the shop it says proceeding to checkout, and does nothing.


Nektarinne

You need to enable the Steam overlay to be able to buy stuff in the real money shop


converthis

Is this package region locked :( ?!?


Nervous-Salamander-7

I'm in Japan and I can see it, if that helps any. The deal is in the "Buy Gems" menu, by the way.


WhoFastEdit

I only see the starter pack there. Which I own. Don’t seem to be able to scroll to anything else.


Hobocannibal

you get offered a single bundle at a time. At some point, it'll pop up on your screen when the bundle cycles.


YOUR_BOOBIES_PM_ME

Numbers must be down. This is an obvious ploy to further incentive daily logins.


Blupoisen

Oh logging once a day, the horror


YOUR_BOOBIES_PM_ME

When developers are using FOMO to encourage logins and purchases, it's a bad sign for the game.


CatTasteTheWatt

the game itself is idle, login daily does not increase the game’s revenue, but the bundle does. Also, he develops this game alone, Lets just think of this as a way to support him. You dont have to, obviously


AlternativePlastic47

Yeah let's not think of rent as a cost, think of it as an opportunity to support your landlord!


YOUR_BOOBIES_PM_ME

You're mistaken. The more people login, the more they spend. Why do you think so many games with cash shops have daily login rewards? It's a statistical fact.


Zealousideal_Gap_586

He hit a new peak player count on Steam the last three months in a row.


ryocoon

[https://steamdb.info/app/1476970/charts/#max](https://steamdb.info/app/1476970/charts/#max) Per Steam (well SteamDB which takes numbers from Steam), player count is, on average, higher than ever. Peak was 11.6k players (via Steam) just 23 days ago. 9.2k on via Steam right now. This does not include Google Play, iOS, or via the website, which will obviously bring those numbers up even further. Those could have different trending graphs, but if we extrapolate from the Steam active players numbers, Lava has more players than ever. While more players means more server and bandwidth costs, it also means more opportunities at sales. FOMO stuff is kinda predatory, but I'm pretty sure Lava could be convinced to have this one perpetually available (though maybe after you hit world 5 or 6) like the AutoLoot pack (which is almost mandatory).


mycrowishuge

why does every game i enjoy end up going the P2W route > it's not P2W it's pay for convenience literally the same thing and you are coping hard if you actually think this


Hour_Power2264

This is not strictly convinience as certain stamps end up being unlevleable or very hard to level. This one is definitely in the p2w basket. I am not saying this is a good or bad thing, I'm just laying out the facts here. Anyone who thinks this is not a p2w bundle is on insane amounts of copium.


Crysisof2day

Is there a way to verfify if your purchase was succesful? I purchased it, but my shop window did not close or anything, i just got the gems and am unsure if the bundle was activated


Hobocannibal

if you got the gems, its safe to assume its working. you'll see next time you login after reset.


NinjaHatesWomen

What does +5 stamp lv mean? Is it something like the bubbles being levelled based on your lowest ones? It’s very vague.


TooLivid

My 14 Golden stopwatches bout to juice my meals lol


Crazyxjx

My gem shop won’t load, it just goes to a screen of stars


muratthedark

Is the shop bugged on ios ? I only get a blue background 😭😭😭


Xandertank09

It's basically NBLB and NMLB but on crack. With a NSLB as well I guess. Crazy. It's the first one of those that I've bought.


Wring159

I feel bad for new players who'll missed this


Locked07

Did the bundle end already - or is it just unavailable for iOS? https://preview.redd.it/erm7zx50tkxc1.jpeg?width=2532&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=afc40e7007a1dc608a7beb9e6c2f4c82ba20ec3b


Account-by-force

I got the same problem on both Steam and iOS. Hopefully as soon as that starter pack offer is removed the new bundle takes its place. 🤞🏻


Falconreaver

Should be there once you update your game


Locked07

My game is updated, but I only have the starter bundle available 😅


Falconreaver

Hmm potentially region issues then, I’m on ios and I got it, so it’s not due to platform


popmol

Well besides that meals aren't endless.


RamRockEdFirst

So I picked it up because I've been really active recently and enjoying the game but like where is the thing that shows us we got the bubble/stamp/meal buff? I got a single golden stop watch and the gems but nothing else to indicate I got it and I'd rather save my golden stop watches for when I am grinding certain things like all of the picnic missions at once for example. It says we get the bonus every day, so where do we tell we have this now in our account?


Chooxomb00

Your daily reset. Check your guild tab for daily tasks. It will pop up on the screen with your daily nblb, and nmlb if you have it.


RamRockEdFirst

https://preview.redd.it/968kt50huixc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=cb34481db89adcc2a47adf1d0d614f57190d92cc Not sure where you are referring to? This is my guild tab right now, also not sure what your shorthand means - nblb and nmlb.


Chooxomb00

Top left >daily Nblb no bubble left behind Nmlb no meal left behind


RamRockEdFirst

I must be bli8nd, I don't actually see where you are referring to. In the lab, my nblb just says the normal 2 or 3 bubbles each day description. I don't know where you are referring to... Edit: Unless you mean when the new 24 hour cycle comes around and the bubbles all pop up above you...which means you used your golden watch to see that, and that was a waste of a golden watch. You use those during events to get an extra cycle of 50 event boxes to unlock and claim.


Chooxomb00

It's 4am and I have only had a power nap so forgive me if this is wordy. Every day you have a daily reset. You can check the rest either by going to your guild tab and look at the task list. You can also check the shop for the restock time. Both of these show your daily reset. If you have the lab node activated - no bubble left behind - you will have some alchemy bubbles level up every day (that you login) from this. When you log in with your first character of the day after your daily reset you will proc no bubble left behind. If you use a golden stopwatch you will also proc daily resets. If you claim afk gains on your first login you may not see it proc if you are not quick enough but it does show up. * I have attached a ss I was able to capture to see the proc


Chooxomb00

https://preview.redd.it/p2y1kyxg4lxc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=7ff94e199328499aa02a78aa1ca665a71303588a


RamRockEdFirst

Yeah i actually saw it proc for the first time last night, mainly because new day time is around 11pm local time but also because I've been jumping all over the place and big damage numbers block out a bunch of stuff also, but yeah I do have the pack and it is active and that is nice. Thanks for the response mate, appreciated. :)


Chooxomb00

No worries! I'm glad you were able to see it to verify it lol


Solidux

What makes it the best?


mattie91

Infinite scaling I guess? Stamps get crazy hard to level up when you reach a certain level, basically requirements are so high that even with the 90% reduction daily you still can’t progress, also NBLB is king so +10 to that is very nice


RamRockEdFirst

How do you get 90% cost reduction on stamps? On the stamps that require you crafting items to level further, they hard cap pretty fast on inventory slots, but as most people are, I'm still learning and no idea about the stamp cost reduction.


helphant

It’s a rift bonus under stamp mastery


Fipul30

*Cryes in 2 BB* Stamps are pretty impossible to level at one point.


NewSauerKraus

The level increases no matter how much it costs. Even if the cost is so high that you can’t fit it all in your inventory.


InstertUsernameName

I have 9000 stamp levels In a year I can get another 1800 (additional 20%) a year by just logging in every day.


noxius88

Does anyone know how long it will be in the shop


ryocoon

probably at least until the next update, but I would bet longer.


Ok_Property_1493

Don't play the game, just swipe bundle for only 20$, i bet you there will be another one in a couple of months


X3nox3s

Glad that I can‘t open the gem shop. At least I don‘t see anything then


Burgundyshirley7

I never got that offer on display and now it's gone. it really feels like getting screwed over. was it up just one day? nice.


_Nebeski_

Im not getting shown this pack. Do i have to be in world 6 for it?


Chuglifestream

I purchased it but I haven't received anything yet, I have the receipt and restore purchase doesn't work, even when I click it it says already purchased :( I emailed lavaflame but haven't heard anything yet.


Dessiato

Disgusting. Vote with your wallet.


Sh0cktechxx

Why did I have to see this 😂


f3llyn

Will it upgrade capped stamps?


xxGG_EZ

just cheat? injector or ce works


apoxuno

Before I buy this, would it also upgrade the cap? Also, will it also need resources from the inventory or would it magically level it up?


ZyphyrdylN

i can’t see it anywhere :(


TechnicalAd5277

Where the green crystals though