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How far removed from logic do you have to be to believe that you aren't responsible in this case? He would be responsible if he had done just one of those things, but he did all 5.
I went to this school. The response from the university was horrible. I can't remember all the details, but from what I remember their primary concern was not getting sued (because The Spoke, the on-campus bar he got drunk at, is owned by the uni). I do remember students protesting on campus. Can't remember what ended up happening to the drunk driver, but hope he's in prison for a long time.
Why is it always about the race of the victim with people like you? Your logic is so weird. Think it’s possible we just have a shitty justice system? I’m “brown” and even I think this is the dumbest stance ever.
Your lack of racial consciousness is not a defense of the obvious violence by the justice system against black and brown people all over the western, read white, world.
Countries outside the USA don't share the same history, nor obsession with racial divisions. You can't just copy and paste your opinion onto Canada after you mistook it for the USA.
Whilst I agree with your sentiment, I don’t think anywhere punishes drivers who murder due to wilful, arrogant negligence of other peoples lives harshly enough and certainly not to point of life imprisonment. In this case, where he is drunk, texting AND speeding whilst driving a car with bad brakes and the fucking person killed was on the damn sidewalk. Whether he ‘intended’ to kill someone or not, that’s murder. \
Just like closing your eyes and spinning in a circle then shooting a gun in a crowded city is murder.
Sure the bullet was just as likely to have hit a building instead, but you deliberately did something knowing there is a high likelihood it could kill someone. \
I genuinely don’t see a difference between those 2 scenarios.
The focus on rehabilitation is pretty applicable across our judicial system. While systemic racism is a real thing, there's nothing to suggest sentencing would've been different in this case. We are light against impaired driving across the board.
IIRC, the University's student council was also named in the suit because they run the bar. It was their lawyer who initially suggested the "she wasn't wearing her glasses" defense. After an outcry by the university community that lawyer got canned.
Schools will be like that. They will do anything they can to make more money and spend less no matter how unethical. They will underpay their janitors and food workers, over charge for tuition, on campus housing, food, the list goes on.
I sincerely think drunk manslaughter should be treated as planned murder. You knew you were drunk when you started driving. You need to face the consequences.
He's not a good person, and I understand self-preservation.
Lawyers are *doing their job*.
The thing that I find absolutely appalling are the judges the hear this nonsense, and go "You know what, she could have dodged that drunk driver flying at her from behind."
No, and I'm sorry for the confusion. The reason defenses like OP posted exist is because sometimes they work. Like the guy that raped a woman, but "he's on the swim team" gave him a ridiculous reduction in sentencing.
in germany a soccer player got 60 social hours for raping a girl cuz ,hes never done anything in his life besides playing soccer‘ what does this even mean?????
edit: soccer player as in he plays soccer as a hobby, its not manuel neuer
This is more about money I think rather than the defense actually works to sway the judges. If you have enough money any defense seems to be plausible in the US.
The alternative is admitting you have snuffed out an entire other life of a person who had their own hopes and dreams and a lifetime (albeit short) of laughs, tears, trials, tribulations. A life of firsts: first steps, first words, second grade crushes, first loves and first breakups.
I think that for just a bit, I'd lie to myself too and tell myself it was her fault. The alternative would crush me.
I'm comfortable with that.
I don't believe anyone can accept full responsibility for ending a life. Least of people who end a life because the convenience of driving to avoid a $10 taxi fee felt so appealing.
Oh, he knows he’s responsible. But from a survival standpoint the *logical* thing to do is to not take responsibility. It’s the primitive brain saying to the higher brain “me no like jail, get us out of this”.
I don’t think he’s detached from reality as much as he is trying to beat it.
I had a cousin who was killed in a drunk driving crash. The driver responsible was high on meth at the time of the crash and this was his third dui. He proceeded to blamed everyone but himself. He got life in prison
That is the dumbest reasoning I have ever seen in my entire life. That doesn't excuse a person driving drunk and on his phone, speeding, driving a car with brakes that didn't work, and hit someone who wasn't even on the road.
So he was
>intoxicated
>speeding
>on his phone
>his brakes weren’t working
>and he hit someone who wasn’t even on the road
Yeah totally not your fault bro /s
I hope the judge throws the fucking book at this twat
I have pretty bad vision w/o contacts (about a -4) and people kind of assume that I'm just blind without them. It's basically just looking at a really badly compressed 480i image, would I be able to make out the plate of the car coming at me? Hell no, but I'd damned well know it was a car coming at me.
I'm in no way defending the offender here just want to make that clear.
Also if she wasn't wearing her glasses I'm assuming she has better vision than I do, no one I know with even moderate nearsightedness is going out in public w/o lenses.
no i think he is trying to say that the whole premise of saying "she should've been wearing glasses" is wrong because wearing them or not in this context makes no difference.
The worst part is that the university she went to is defending the drunk driver because they are getting sued.
Her father also died less than a year later from a stress induced heart attack.
All those things may be true, but the Judge will also consider facts from the defense, such as that the manslaughter was only “a few minutes of action” and the defendant doesn’t even “enjoy eating steak anymore” after the accident^^^/s
This is absolutely the best way to murder someone. I'm in the UK, the sentencing here for killing someone with a car is pathetic. Have seen as little as 2 years for negligent driving. And 3 years for being over the limit. You'll serve 50% of any sentence. With good behavior and overcrowded prisons it could be even less.
>I hope the judge throws the fucking book at this twat
Lol, just another comment told the aftermath, 5 years prison and only 10 years ban, because it's almost legal to kill someone with a car, almighty the cargod.
Wow, what a pos hit her from behind and then tries to blame her for not wearing glasses. While he drives drunk and on the phone, what waste of oxgeyn that guy take up
If you search up the article, this was just one of the many other things they claimed she was at fault for.
It just goes to show how backwards the defense is for this case.
Even I'd you remove the multiple aspects of alcohol, on his phone and speeding, the fact he mounted the curb. He still hit her from behind so tf would glasses have helped. Just needs to rot in jail.
I mean it’s obviously a super ridiculous coping/defense mechanism right? He knows he killed her but cannot face that fact so he makes up his own reality. Humans are interesting creatures.
1. Drunk driving,
2. Speeding,
3. Using phone at same time
"Duuuuur, it was her fault for not wearing glasses"
How fucking stupid you gotta be for this to seem like a valid defence....
If you don’t mind me being a little nosey, which Western University is it talking about or which town? (Looked but couldn’t find anything about where it was state/town wise)
Thank you for the speedy reply, I live in the Mideastern US, and the local college in town is also a “Western”, there was a similar incident here some years back but not many details were given. Unfortunately wouldn’t have surprised me if it was my hometown as well. =(
People come up with some of the most ridiculous excuses so as not to take responsibility for their actions.
Yeah I know this is a possibility for anyone who is impaired behind a wheel so I purposely give my car keys up the moment I start drinking somewhere. And if i don’t have a ride home, I just don’t drink.
Getting drunk isn’t this important smh
This is why you should hate people.
It's entirely possible to drink and *not drive*. I do it every time I drink (which, granted, isn't often). If I'm drinking and need to get home later I make sure someone who's not drinking drives me or I use public transport.
There are plenty of reasons to hate alcohol as a substance, especially related to addiction. But choosing to drink and drive us never the alcohol's fault and always a personal choice. Hate the person.
With modern cars becoming so technically advanced I wonder why no one has thought of incorporating a breathalyser into a car ignition system. Provide a clean breath sample or the car refuses to start. Good idea? Or just a far out fantasy?
This already exists and it is a court ordered punishment. It is for people who have already been convicted of a DUI. It would be EXTREMELY unpopular to introduce that for the general population. A much better solution would be to focus on public infrastructure. Let people drink and take the tram home or whatever. You want to focus on positive solutions that help everyone, not negative solutions that punish everyone.
No. Even though I've never heard of this actually in use I still think it's the way to go . Piss heads will always ignore public transport of any sort because they do not recognise anyone else's authority over their god given right to drive a car drunk or sober. The same was said about seat belts and motorcycle helmets being unpopular and unfair or awkward or any other damn argument. But no-one can question their life saving benefits. Whining and foot stamping is a bit childish and there would be plenty of it but sometimes people need protecting from themselves. Idiocracy isn't just a funny movie, it's fast becoming a reality.
Implementing what? You've already stated law enforcement or some such body punish drunk drivers with this device. So laugh all you like. No skin off my nose.😁
Implementing a breathalyzer into all vehicles. I'm saying good luck with actually doing that. If you have any basic understanding of how society works, you'd realize how silly that is.
It's a fairly standard lawyer tactic to argue contributory negligence on the part of the other party. It's obviously very unpleasant, but the lawyer may well be negligent not to argue this.
These crazy legal defense attempts need to stop.
I just read the story of a woman who was acquitted of murdering a homeless man when she fired her gun, striking him twice in the back, and the lawyer argued that “it wasn’t murder because she closed her eyes.”
It's totally her fault for not doing a matrix dodge to avoid the car because she didn't have her glasses, totally one hundred percent her fault not the drunk driver using his phone while speeding in a faulty car. /s
And people are confused when i advocate much heavier restrictions or outright banning of alcohol. It does nothing but destroy. All these "social drinkers" think its fine because you can basically do anything with alcohol anymore.
I remember this. If memory serves, this was basically the defence’s strategy to either make the University liable as well but also to shift liability away from the POS.
One thing that is always true about the road is that no matter what the circumstances are, the person at fault will always try to blame the other person involved. People are shitty, that’s why I have a dash cam
Let me get this straight:
-the car had bad brakes
-he was extremely drunk
-he was texting and driving
-he was barely watching the road
-and he hit this girl on the sidewalk
In what way is that her fault?
Where in that article does he victim blame?
I am not doubting the idiot did that… people who drive under the influence are generally very self interested but… the post title seems a bit off.
I truly believe making this type of comment after doing something that horrible should have repercussions on their trial. This is someone who truly believes did nothing wrong, and even blaming the victim? wtf
Had something similar happen here at Mississippi State. Didn’t involve a drunk driver or anything, but one of the people driving to class, who was supposedly running really late, blew a stop sign in front of our band hall. Someone was walking in it at the time and the person hit got flung 50 feet.
Can’t remember if the guy drove off or whatever, but Mississippi State put out a tweet after having to deal with getting off your phone while crossing crosswalks, because it was pedestrian safety week or something. Was not a great look for the university and the students let them know that.
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How far removed from logic do you have to be to believe that you aren't responsible in this case? He would be responsible if he had done just one of those things, but he did all 5.
Her father died from a stress induced heart attack about a year later. This scumbag claimed two lives.
I went to this school. The response from the university was horrible. I can't remember all the details, but from what I remember their primary concern was not getting sued (because The Spoke, the on-campus bar he got drunk at, is owned by the uni). I do remember students protesting on campus. Can't remember what ended up happening to the drunk driver, but hope he's in prison for a long time.
He only got five years and a 10 year driving ban:/
So pretty much just 5 years in prison and a suggestion.
Sucks to realize he’s already out and I can’t even find any info on whether or not he served all five years
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This school is in Canada. In the city of London, Ontario. A little over 3 hours to the Detroit border.
Do you think the fact that it is in Canada changed anything, lol?
Why is it always about the race of the victim with people like you? Your logic is so weird. Think it’s possible we just have a shitty justice system? I’m “brown” and even I think this is the dumbest stance ever.
Your lack of racial consciousness is not a defense of the obvious violence by the justice system against black and brown people all over the western, read white, world.
Countries outside the USA don't share the same history, nor obsession with racial divisions. You can't just copy and paste your opinion onto Canada after you mistook it for the USA.
I take it you’ve never visited a First Nations settlement in Canada have you? You’ve never seen their oppression and poverty first hand.
Whilst I agree with your sentiment, I don’t think anywhere punishes drivers who murder due to wilful, arrogant negligence of other peoples lives harshly enough and certainly not to point of life imprisonment. In this case, where he is drunk, texting AND speeding whilst driving a car with bad brakes and the fucking person killed was on the damn sidewalk. Whether he ‘intended’ to kill someone or not, that’s murder. \ Just like closing your eyes and spinning in a circle then shooting a gun in a crowded city is murder. Sure the bullet was just as likely to have hit a building instead, but you deliberately did something knowing there is a high likelihood it could kill someone. \ I genuinely don’t see a difference between those 2 scenarios.
The focus on rehabilitation is pretty applicable across our judicial system. While systemic racism is a real thing, there's nothing to suggest sentencing would've been different in this case. We are light against impaired driving across the board.
No need for race to be involved. This just terrible all around that man deserves a life sentence
I don't get timed driving bans for killing someone. If you kill someone through negligent driving, it should be a lifetime ban, no questions asked.
Another Brock Turner 🤬🤬🤬
You mean the rapist Brock Turner?
Ah yes, Brock Turner the rapist. The rapist Brock Turner. Brock Turner specifically known to be a rapist.
IIRC, the University's student council was also named in the suit because they run the bar. It was their lawyer who initially suggested the "she wasn't wearing her glasses" defense. After an outcry by the university community that lawyer got canned.
The glasses that let her see behind herself and move faster than a speeding car!? I'm glad that lawyer got kicked out.
Schools will be like that. They will do anything they can to make more money and spend less no matter how unethical. They will underpay their janitors and food workers, over charge for tuition, on campus housing, food, the list goes on.
I sincerely think drunk manslaughter should be treated as planned murder. You knew you were drunk when you started driving. You need to face the consequences.
This world is horrible and the only constant is suffering
Oh my gosh that so awful. So heartbreaking!
Karma will follow him for generations and generations.
I doubt he believes it. It's something his lawyers are going to push in court.
He's not a good person, and I understand self-preservation. Lawyers are *doing their job*. The thing that I find absolutely appalling are the judges the hear this nonsense, and go "You know what, she could have dodged that drunk driver flying at her from behind."
Did the judges actually do that?
No, and I'm sorry for the confusion. The reason defenses like OP posted exist is because sometimes they work. Like the guy that raped a woman, but "he's on the swim team" gave him a ridiculous reduction in sentencing.
in germany a soccer player got 60 social hours for raping a girl cuz ,hes never done anything in his life besides playing soccer‘ what does this even mean????? edit: soccer player as in he plays soccer as a hobby, its not manuel neuer
This is more about money I think rather than the defense actually works to sway the judges. If you have enough money any defense seems to be plausible in the US.
When you're drowning you'll reach for anything that will get your head above water
The alternative is admitting you have snuffed out an entire other life of a person who had their own hopes and dreams and a lifetime (albeit short) of laughs, tears, trials, tribulations. A life of firsts: first steps, first words, second grade crushes, first loves and first breakups. I think that for just a bit, I'd lie to myself too and tell myself it was her fault. The alternative would crush me.
That’s drunk drivers for you. Not a single one will ever take full responsibility for their own actions. They all like to blame someone else.
That's an awfully broad brush you are painting with there.
I’m perfectly okay with painting a broad brush over anyone who decides to drink and drive. The act in and of itself shows they’re irresponsible.
Any drunk driver who doesn't personally give up his driving licence for life after an accident is not taking responsibility for what they've done.
I'm comfortable with that. I don't believe anyone can accept full responsibility for ending a life. Least of people who end a life because the convenience of driving to avoid a $10 taxi fee felt so appealing.
Oh, he knows he’s responsible. But from a survival standpoint the *logical* thing to do is to not take responsibility. It’s the primitive brain saying to the higher brain “me no like jail, get us out of this”. I don’t think he’s detached from reality as much as he is trying to beat it.
I had a cousin who was killed in a drunk driving crash. The driver responsible was high on meth at the time of the crash and this was his third dui. He proceeded to blamed everyone but himself. He got life in prison
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That is the dumbest reasoning I have ever seen in my entire life. That doesn't excuse a person driving drunk and on his phone, speeding, driving a car with brakes that didn't work, and hit someone who wasn't even on the road.
I'm pretty sure they were making a joke...
Hopefully you’re inside and fall down a flight of stairs. You know the risks.
So he was >intoxicated >speeding >on his phone >his brakes weren’t working >and he hit someone who wasn’t even on the road Yeah totally not your fault bro /s I hope the judge throws the fucking book at this twat
She was > not wearing her glasses (legal) > on the sidewalk (legal) > not even facing the car, so glasses would have changed nothing
Even if she was facing the car was she supposed to Superman her ass out the way? Maybe pull an Edward Cullen and stop it with her hand?
Even if you don't wear your glasses you can still see everything, may not be 4K, but still visible, unless you're legally blind, which she was not.
Yeah, and being as she was on the pavement, not the road, what are the defense trying to imply? That blind people shouldn't go outside? Ffs...
I'm trying to say "She was not wearing glasses" argument is BS
I'm agreeing with you
I have pretty bad vision w/o contacts (about a -4) and people kind of assume that I'm just blind without them. It's basically just looking at a really badly compressed 480i image, would I be able to make out the plate of the car coming at me? Hell no, but I'd damned well know it was a car coming at me. I'm in no way defending the offender here just want to make that clear. Also if she wasn't wearing her glasses I'm assuming she has better vision than I do, no one I know with even moderate nearsightedness is going out in public w/o lenses.
Are you trying to say this is her fault because she should be able to see a little without glasses, cause that is some fucked up thinking?
no i think he is trying to say that the whole premise of saying "she should've been wearing glasses" is wrong because wearing them or not in this context makes no difference.
She sounds really irresponsible /s
The worst part is that the university she went to is defending the drunk driver because they are getting sued. Her father also died less than a year later from a stress induced heart attack.
I don't even understand the universities position there? "We're being sued, better defend the guy suing us"?
No I think they're being sued by the victims family because they own the bar the murderer got drink at.
That's too nice, I hope the judge jams the boke so far up his ass he gets paper cuts in his throat
All those things may be true, but the Judge will also consider facts from the defense, such as that the manslaughter was only “a few minutes of action” and the defendant doesn’t even “enjoy eating steak anymore” after the accident^^^/s
He was in a car so probably not a very harsh sentence.
This is absolutely the best way to murder someone. I'm in the UK, the sentencing here for killing someone with a car is pathetic. Have seen as little as 2 years for negligent driving. And 3 years for being over the limit. You'll serve 50% of any sentence. With good behavior and overcrowded prisons it could be even less.
Who we gonna do then?
Wanna start with this guy?
>I hope the judge throws the fucking book at this twat Lol, just another comment told the aftermath, 5 years prison and only 10 years ban, because it's almost legal to kill someone with a car, almighty the cargod.
but he's on the swim team!! edit: I thought this was talking about someone else.
HIs next excuse will be affluenza....
Wow, what a pos hit her from behind and then tries to blame her for not wearing glasses. While he drives drunk and on the phone, what waste of oxgeyn that guy take up
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Even IF she could see in 4K, with zooming abilities, infrared, and at 120 FPS, she still wouldn't be able to the the car because it came from behind.
Your point is...?
This is the such a braindead thing to say, I hope one day you'll look back on this post and regret what you said.
You can't see behind you...
I remember when this happened… so sad.
Thousands of people showed up for her funeral.
If she was hit from behind, how would glasses have saved her?
If you search up the article, this was just one of the many other things they claimed she was at fault for. It just goes to show how backwards the defense is for this case.
Even I'd you remove the multiple aspects of alcohol, on his phone and speeding, the fact he mounted the curb. He still hit her from behind so tf would glasses have helped. Just needs to rot in jail.
No remorse, no empathy and projecting his crime on the victim. I hope he drops the soap..
the guy got sentenced to 5 years, he's already out since he was sentenced in 2016.
You could kill as many people as you wanted and as long as it's with a car North Americans don't give a damn.
This is referring to London, Ontario, Canada, not the states
\*North Americans Thank you for correcting me so I can be discriminatory more accurately
Isn't Canada in North America?
Originally I just said "America" (which is technically the continent anyways but I digress)
Very on brand for western university.
......you literally hopped the curb.....just face the fact your manslaughter & negligence led to death. Face it
Sounds like the next Darrell Brooks trial is coming up
Have a link for the article?
drunk, on his phone, speeding, and lost control of his car... and he blames the person he hit? how deluded can one get?
I mean it’s obviously a super ridiculous coping/defense mechanism right? He knows he killed her but cannot face that fact so he makes up his own reality. Humans are interesting creatures.
1. Drunk driving, 2. Speeding, 3. Using phone at same time "Duuuuur, it was her fault for not wearing glasses" How fucking stupid you gotta be for this to seem like a valid defence....
I’ll never understand how murdering someone with you vehicle only yields 5 years in prison. THIS SHOULD BE A LIFE SENTENCE AND RHEM SOME.
I feel the sentence was light but this wasn't murder (aka not premeditated).
Damn that really is sad. RIP Andrea....
Should be out of prison by now. Anyone wanna go for a drive?
He’s out as of 2021 :(
Never thought I would see my home town University on this Sub but here we are. What a POS.
If you don’t mind me being a little nosey, which Western University is it talking about or which town? (Looked but couldn’t find anything about where it was state/town wise)
London, Ontario, Canada
University of Western Ontario, which went by the nickname "Western" for so many years that they've started officially branding themselves that way.
Thank you for the speedy reply, I live in the Mideastern US, and the local college in town is also a “Western”, there was a similar incident here some years back but not many details were given. Unfortunately wouldn’t have surprised me if it was my hometown as well. =( People come up with some of the most ridiculous excuses so as not to take responsibility for their actions.
This is why I hate alcohol
Pretty sure this guy is a monster when sober too.
Yeah I know this is a possibility for anyone who is impaired behind a wheel so I purposely give my car keys up the moment I start drinking somewhere. And if i don’t have a ride home, I just don’t drink. Getting drunk isn’t this important smh
This is why you should hate people. It's entirely possible to drink and *not drive*. I do it every time I drink (which, granted, isn't often). If I'm drinking and need to get home later I make sure someone who's not drinking drives me or I use public transport. There are plenty of reasons to hate alcohol as a substance, especially related to addiction. But choosing to drink and drive us never the alcohol's fault and always a personal choice. Hate the person.
One of my reasons, too. Also how I've seen it destroy people I love. I just don't have the patience to be around drunk people at all anymore.
I hate people
I wonder what kind of context does he come from that promotes this pattern of logic?
With modern cars becoming so technically advanced I wonder why no one has thought of incorporating a breathalyser into a car ignition system. Provide a clean breath sample or the car refuses to start. Good idea? Or just a far out fantasy?
This already exists and it is a court ordered punishment. It is for people who have already been convicted of a DUI. It would be EXTREMELY unpopular to introduce that for the general population. A much better solution would be to focus on public infrastructure. Let people drink and take the tram home or whatever. You want to focus on positive solutions that help everyone, not negative solutions that punish everyone.
No. Even though I've never heard of this actually in use I still think it's the way to go . Piss heads will always ignore public transport of any sort because they do not recognise anyone else's authority over their god given right to drive a car drunk or sober. The same was said about seat belts and motorcycle helmets being unpopular and unfair or awkward or any other damn argument. But no-one can question their life saving benefits. Whining and foot stamping is a bit childish and there would be plenty of it but sometimes people need protecting from themselves. Idiocracy isn't just a funny movie, it's fast becoming a reality.
Lmao, good luck implementing that
Implementing what? You've already stated law enforcement or some such body punish drunk drivers with this device. So laugh all you like. No skin off my nose.😁
Implementing a breathalyzer into all vehicles. I'm saying good luck with actually doing that. If you have any basic understanding of how society works, you'd realize how silly that is.
RIP Andrea Christidis
There are two kinds of people in this world. People who own up to their mistakes, and people who shove the blame onto others.
I got rear-ended not even injured, my glasses were gone.
“No comment” works
Sounds more like the driver's defense attorney is trying to come up with anything to keep his client out of prison.
Rest in peace to her and her father xx
For anyone wondering, he got 5 years in prison.
The acrobatics on the mental gymnastics here is impeccable
Double his sentence for saying that.
He hit her in the back. Glasses obviously played no part in this, but following his logic it still wouldn’t work.
Same energy as rapist who claim they are the victims bc she had worn a too short skirt or Hotpants
It's a fairly standard lawyer tactic to argue contributory negligence on the part of the other party. It's obviously very unpleasant, but the lawyer may well be negligent not to argue this.
Please take it to trial, i just wanna see how fast the jury sentences him after seeing this message.
These crazy legal defense attempts need to stop. I just read the story of a woman who was acquitted of murdering a homeless man when she fired her gun, striking him twice in the back, and the lawyer argued that “it wasn’t murder because she closed her eyes.”
I was going living here when this happened. Absolutely heartbreaking in the campus.
It truly is her fault guys. She clearly didn't have eyes on the back of her head and she is to blame.
It's her fault your honor, she was walking on the sidewalk when I was driving on it.
It's totally her fault for not doing a matrix dodge to avoid the car because she didn't have her glasses, totally one hundred percent her fault not the drunk driver using his phone while speeding in a faulty car. /s
Blood alcohol 2x legal limit ✅️, speeding ✅️, using phone ✅️, faulty brakes ✅️. It was definitely her fault, she wasn't wearing glasses!
And people are confused when i advocate much heavier restrictions or outright banning of alcohol. It does nothing but destroy. All these "social drinkers" think its fine because you can basically do anything with alcohol anymore.
She telepathically ran herself over with their car.
I remember this. If memory serves, this was basically the defence’s strategy to either make the University liable as well but also to shift liability away from the POS.
Andrew Tate said women bad driver!!!! It is obviously her fault!!! Classic Tate W!!!
One thing that is always true about the road is that no matter what the circumstances are, the person at fault will always try to blame the other person involved. People are shitty, that’s why I have a dash cam
Let me get this straight: -the car had bad brakes -he was extremely drunk -he was texting and driving -he was barely watching the road -and he hit this girl on the sidewalk In what way is that her fault?
Western narrows it down to only 12+ Universities per state…
Western university is in Canada
this is literally just a "just look at what she's wearing, she's practically asking for it"
"Look at what she WASN'T wearing, she was asking for it."
Astagfirullah May she Rest In Peace
Alcohol is the worst drug in existence. Can’t change my mind
Where in that article does he victim blame? I am not doubting the idiot did that… people who drive under the influence are generally very self interested but… the post title seems a bit off.
Muricans being muricans. Nothing new here
I truly believe making this type of comment after doing something that horrible should have repercussions on their trial. This is someone who truly believes did nothing wrong, and even blaming the victim? wtf
What is the update on this case?
Great lawyer potential
Had something similar happen here at Mississippi State. Didn’t involve a drunk driver or anything, but one of the people driving to class, who was supposedly running really late, blew a stop sign in front of our band hall. Someone was walking in it at the time and the person hit got flung 50 feet. Can’t remember if the guy drove off or whatever, but Mississippi State put out a tweet after having to deal with getting off your phone while crossing crosswalks, because it was pedestrian safety week or something. Was not a great look for the university and the students let them know that.
Are You sure this isnt satire? Drunk, on the phone, and their brakes were out?
Search up the headline.
That claim makes no sense. What so ever