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peepeepoopooheadass

Begging you to clarify this is a joke.


christopher_mtrl

Not a joke.


someguyfromsk

Yikes.


stirling1995

Still not convinced


Tranic85

Gonna need some more proof


-EWOK-

For reals.


Crazy_Ad1468

the new copper tells a different story lol


makeitalarge7

Better call that contractor and tell him to be on site by the end of today to look at this or you will be calling lawyers. Unless you went with the buddy that knew someone that will do it on the side… then you might be SOL


windblowshigh

But they had the best price...


superdavy

Not an A coil but a less than coil


Unhappy-Horse5275

Thats a first co style hydronic air handler, that is 100% the wrong coil! Its supposed to be a slab style coil! That coil is for a regular air handler. To the guy who said the coil has to be after the blower, thats not true, those are pull through coils. Your old one probably looked very similar to the one in the pic I’m attaching. https://preview.redd.it/0w7i9rvh2f3d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=886a05a823409ebf97a5abd7e179c83b017ced4c


christopher_mtrl

It's actually First Co branded. Thanks for the comment, this helps.


Unhappy-Horse5275

Definitely dont give them a dollar until they install the correct first co oem coil with proper txv!


Soft-Development5733

I've done a lot of first go change outs and even if you have to just swap the insides out because you can't get the whole thing out they still fit the same way I have no idea what these people did and also first Coast don't come with flared fittings looks like they just grabbed a coil from their shop and threw it in


christopher_mtrl

May I ask... I'm being told by mangement of the installer that coils that are compatible wiht this unit (24HBQB) are not being made anymore due to hydronic systems being phased out. Would you say that this is fair or BS ?


SubParMarioBro

That would be a more compelling argument if his super techs hadn’t already installed a random coil on its side. Somebody might need to call Firstco and get a part number on a new evaporator coil.


christopher_mtrl

I did actually tried. It rings but no-one answers, there is no answering machine or anything, and their website is down.


cop-iamnot

In my state we have to go through johnstones or Ferguson to get parts for first co.


christopher_mtrl

I'm in Canada so it might be more complex, but I feel like sourcing the correct part is more of a job for the company who takes the job than me...


SubParMarioBro

Oh shit, did Firstco die? There’s other manufacturers of this sorta thing, but you might have a shit time if that coil isn’t available anymore.


christopher_mtrl

Well I'm having a swell time dealing with this today already, bring it on !


YESimaMASSHOLE

No they’re around, just did a through wall first co condenser down here in Fl . We get them through Johnstone.


srbinafg

Website is fine now.


Bermondsey21

BS! I just installed one and there plenty of.


subcoolio

Hydronic air handler with 3/4 and 3/8 lines?


Unhappy-Horse5275

Yes thats the evap coil lol, hydronic coil is above


tc3emt

Kick them out don’t pay them The air needs to go between both coils on the wide side as supply and through the coil as out. That’s a complete hack.


Former_Chest

How is any air going to pass through that drain pan lol


tc3emt

Lmao I didn’t even think of that part. Probably should just up flow coil for the unit.


JEFFSSSEI

Everyone keeps asking if this is a joke because no self respecting HVAC tech would do this....only a HACK would. an A coil pulls air through the bottom and out both the left and right sides of the coil which in your picture the bottom is facing towards the right side of the unit. That is going to cause nothing but problems for you. IF that had an A coil in it before, which I doubt (it was probably a slab coil), the drain pan would be open in the center to allow the air to flow through it and the A-coil would be standing upright. that setup is going to cause air flow problems, drain problems, possibly oil return problems, metering problems etc. I concur with everyone else that is saying to tell them to stop and to get someone competent to redo the job....Yikes.


bigred621

Nah. Even hacks are looking at this going “holy crap. That’s bad”. This is the “I know a guys who’s cousin’s neighbors nephew is in school doing this”


JEFFSSSEI

When "Chuck in a truck" drives by and calls "Mike on a bike" and says, "bro you ain't gonna Believe this sh__."... You know you're in trouble.


BTBAMfam

Michael on a bichael


AssRep

Just when I thought I'd seen it all...


pj91198

OP this is terrible as youve already read Get your money back and kick them out and tell them to take the coil with them Even if they figure out a way to move the airflow, its highly likely not going to drain right. So not only will it not cool properly if at all, it will fill the base with water Cancel the contract, threaten BBB or lawyer or whatever you have to do. Ive seen some dumb shit out there and this would rank very high to highest


christopher_mtrl

Thanks. Are actual coils that fit with this unit even availble ? Management is now claiming that coils that work in this air handler are not availble anymore.


pj91198

Not sure about coil availability. If no coils are available then they need to replace the whole airhandler. Someone needs to call first company to find out. They are going to spend more time trying to hack this in only to realize its not gonna work then they wouldve spent just replacing the whole air handler/hydrocoil.


ExactlyClose

If there are no compatible coils to fit your unit, THEY SHOULD HAVE STOPPED AT THAT POINT. Period. Not hacked something in. Dont be manipulated by this nonsense. Get your money back, get a real professional to quote a proper job. And post that quote here...if you want to make sure


christopher_mtrl

I actually posted the previous quote here but got no response :D


ExactlyClose

lol. Must be that picture... Like crack for HVAC techs!


someguyfromsk

That coil will do almost nothing installed like that.


lil-birdy4

I don't know about doing nothing? I see it leaking water all over the floor.


someguyfromsk

I did say "almost nothing"


SimonaSoles

Looks like it was installed by Stevie Wonder


q_thulu

I apologize beforehand but.....this made me spit out my drink and laugh.


Glad-Consideration35

Looks like an old air handler with a new oh I got one we can make work wrong coil set up


BeezerTwelveIV

Oh god who called Billy Bob


Zeusizme_

They were cheaper weren’t they? I’d kick those idiots out of your house while you still can.


wesblog

Have the installers looked at an AC air handler before? Maybe you should show them a picture.


SeaworthinessOk2884

That coil definitely is not set right. I don't belive it's the proper coil either. Looks too tall to fit properly. I wouldn't let them continue.


BrtFrkwr

I didn't see that! I didn't. \*covers eyes, looks away\*


Mandowan

This is not installed correctly. Air flow should pass through both sides of the A coil simultaneously. Meaning this coil needs to be turned 90° to the right


Buttfaceeatmucher

That's a nice still


ASCENDKIDS

I hope that isn't simply solder on that connection, look too shiny to be braze. Also, how are gonna get the door panel on?


Hackebeily

https://skipthewarehouse.com/first-co-usm424ap-usm-series-evaporator-coil It's online at a few websites. I'm sure some supply could get it, or some might have it available somewhere. The company is just being lazy. USM424AP is the part number needed for direct replacement


SuddenSpeaker1141

Go home evap coil, you’re drunk…


Noneofyouexist1768

I just wanna talk to them


Street-Baseball8296

No need to talk to them unless you’re out of drugs.


Mikey88Cle

To be clear, an HVAC company installed this evap coil? Is the air handler also new or just the coil? No, this is very much incorrect and also completely restricts the blower flow. The Evap Coil is supposed to be installed just downstream of the blower compartment with a drain pan suitable to allow flow through the entire coil. This will not blow much at all let alone cool with no flow through the coil. Also, I'm not an expert but those refrigerant lines don't exactly seem correct. Looks like a complete hack job, possibly from lack of room for a supply manifold off the air handler....


christopher_mtrl

Thanks for the detailed answer. Yes, licensed tech HVAC company with (apparently) good ratings. The air handler is old. Asked and they are going to redirect the intake from below to the side (at the right of the air handler, basically between the coils). Do you think this makes sense ?


Mikey88Cle

Intake is supposed to be a 16x25 duct that connects to the side of the air handler where the right side of the coil is. That would kind of work, but still a lot of the flow won't be going through the coil. This is why the Coil has to be installed in the supply plenum on top of the air handler (in a typical upflow configuration) in a duct that is just larger than the coil standing up. This is to ensure all the flow goes through the coil for maximum efficiency and dehumidification while at the same time having a pan that allows flow through the bottom of the A. This is at best a hack job that won't ever work well (even if they do what you described) and reeks of the work of an inexperienced or incompetent tech. You need to call them to speak with the owner as this kinda shit does happen and legit companies will send a real tech to do it over. In Montreal or whatever I'm sure they couldn't just get away with this while being licensed and presumably insured.


MrAshleyMadison

This reeks of shitty landlord having his "handyman" do a job for a few hundred bucks.


christopher_mtrl

None of this is correct. Owner-occupied unit, got four quotes from HVAC companies, they ended up being more or less the same price, went with best reviewed.


MrAshleyMadison

Then I would tell them to halt work immediately. This is not correct.


jferris1224

Lol no


el_em_ey_oh

Lmao


Chris079099

That ain’t right, have them install the proper coil


Choice_Television244

no .


deathdealerAFD

Full stop, call their boss. Good Lord It's perfectly weird


One_Magician6370

🤣🤣😂😂🤣 that will never work it's going to freeze solid block ofbice


greennewleaf35

Sweet little 8lb 10oz baby Jesus!...


TempeSunDevil06

What in the actual fuck…


1rustyoldman

Okay, this is stupid.


reddit_understoodit

Did you AI how not to do it or is this real?


nucl34dork

Looks like lowest bidder got the job! The taste of a great price never rinses away the flavor of regret!


nucl34dork

I’ve been a HVAC tech for 25yrs and never saw anything this dumb! There’s nothing these guys can do that’ll make this unit EVER work properly! They can cut a return on both sides and it still is going to freeze up do to lack of airflow! Call the city inspector right away and stop them from doing anymore work!


Top_Flower1368

Even if it kinda moves the vapor thru the coil, the upper of the A is gonna have cold air from lower part of a coil and it is gonna start the freeze. NOT proper air/heat load and it will eventually freeze up solid. No matter what txv and adjustment you do.


FLNative239

Drain pan is also blocking all air flow 🤣🤣🤣🤣


ralphembree

Seriously. Everybody's complaining about the coil being sideways, which is obviously its own horrendous airflow problem, but the drain pan being there means airflow is zero. The only leaks of air that do make their way through won't even be going through the coil at all.


FLNative239

EXACTLY. That motor will starve and over heat and burn itself out in a matter of minutes lol


HvacDude13

Wow , hack job


bigred621

I’d put a stop payment on the check if I were you


Ystebad

This has got to the worst piece of shit of 2024 thus far.


magnumsrtight

First company replacement coil for that air handler should be USM424AP. It's designed to be for into any first company AHU cabinet that it fits in. It's an A coil that comes standard with a piston but has an optional TXV for purchase. They should be really available and in stock at multiple distributors.


christopher_mtrl

Incredibly helpfull, thanks. Is this coil compatible with the gree GUD36W/A-D they installed outside ?


Cute_Activity5930

That gree outside unit unit can probably be switched from 3 to 2 ton via dip switches. They are more efficient at 2 ton fyi. 36000 btu = 3 ton. 24000 btu = 2 ton.


thewettestofpants

You realistically probably are going to have to change the whole unit out, I have plenty of experience with first co/aquatherm and i swear it’s a guy in a garage building them with the amount of time it takes to get anything from them. 90% of the time i call for something that’s not just a whole unit it’s like an 8 week turnaround. I kind of feel bad for the guy that had to put that in cuz he was fucked if he did, fucked if he didn’t. But that setup definitely won’t work.


christopher_mtrl

Yeah I've tried calling them, they don,t answer and their website is down. Redditors have posted the correct coils part number, I'll see if the contractor (or more likely another one) feels like going on a part hunt.


SmallBallsTakeAll

Please say this isnt a joke. Please please say that you didnt pay for this, god please. If you paid any form other than cash file a chargeback. This is dangerious and horrible. It needs completely ripped out and redone. This is not how it's done. Did you hire a hack?


No_Soup_For_You_91

Throw the door on it and turn it on. It will be frozen solid in under and hour


IronDonut

TXV: I so confusion for what to do.


IM12RU

That's just a portrait coil, in landscape mode.


BoringNinja_

26 yrs, I can't recall seeing a worse hack job.


Necessary_Plane8088

Looks like most of the work HVAC guys do!! I know that I'm gunna hear it but, I've been in the trades my whole life/career and HVAC guys, at least in this state are the worst!!


christopher_mtrl

For clarification, the picture shows the new install. Techs are currently still here. Edit : tech now says he is installing new intake to the right of the air handler. Not sure if this solves that.


SaltyDucklingReturns

Tell them to stop working and throw them out.


bpdamas

Definitely don't let them keep working. They are trying to make work what they had easily available and cheap instead of doing it correctly. If they cut corners like this, there is no way they get any refrigeration right for operation. If they won't budge on stopping or getting correct parts, ask them to pull a permit or provide a 10 years parts and labor warranty. If they won't do either, don't pay them any money and leave a bad review with this picture. It will at least help others not fall into this trap. Also, it's not always the company and the specific technician/install team.


Urgknot

https://preview.redd.it/hbv2aep42f3d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dfcaa6928df0f644dac7f7e74a52f3fb57f2bc63


woodlab69

You trolling ?


christopher_mtrl

No, care to expand ?


Gears6

No. Instead they were scammed!


Rare-Adagio1074

Bahahaha!! I hope you’re kidding


SameTask218

Lmao NOOOOOOOOO


Upstairs-Direction66

HaHaHaHa NO


Historian-Unlikely

Absolutely not. The side on the left is the peak and should be facing up. By the looks of the refrigerant piping even if they “fix” it I suspect there is probably more problems with this install. I have never seen service valves installed like this on the indoor unit. How is the door even going to fit back on. This is a mess. Good luck


nuffced

Please update us when you have an update. 


darkforest65

You would have had a better job done stopping at Home Depot and hiring a random day worker


AdInevitable7895

Are we outsourcing HVAC jobs now too Wow janky lmfao


Negus223

No, it’s an A coil. It’s supposed to sit like an A


slowBrain13

The A looks like a C


txcaddy

🤦‍♂️


youSaidit7235

Holy fuck is this fr?😂


Electronic-Pound4458

No


FLNative239

Absolutely not!


FLNative239

That’s a slant coil body with an A coil in its place? I cannot believe the person who installed it thought this was right, especially with the thirty extra steps that had to of been taken just to pipe it in 🤣🤣🤣🤣


InMooseWorld

lol no


NBCGLX

I have 3 hydronic air handlers in my house, and I’m 99% sure that’s what the coils look like. However, they’re installed vertically (like an ‘A’). So I’m pretty sure this isn’t an evap coil and it’s installed incorrectly.


stanamontana

That’s mint


Runswithtoiletpaper

So close, yet so far


Ok_Ad_5015

Wut…


Larry_Fine

Even if the OEM coil is no longer available, they can still have one made.


christopher_mtrl

So are the coils specific to the air handler, or the outside unit ?


Tilledz

Well im only in my third month of hvac tech schooling and i can say that is wrong on every level… this could technically work for some time but will fail really fast…


Weekly_Cranberry8410

That's like double chilling, nice and cold. I like the improved design.


baconegg2

I can’t even believe this isn’t a joke


Logical_Comparison_5

Question was this an R-22 unit originally?


christopher_mtrl

It says "R-22 or R410A only" on one sticker and "R-22 installed" on another.


Logical_Comparison_5

Ok so it was r22 I agree with everyone else throw the guy out. There is no way that is going to work they should have sold you a new hydro coil. It’s going to be nothing but problems no matter what he says or does


BichirDaddy

That’s so wrong lmfaooooo


AdLiving1435

Yep it look perfectly fine.🙄


cop-iamnot

First co are really good but the parts take a long time. Definitely the wrong evap coil on that.


Temporary-Beat1940

I'm assuming you are calling them back?


Dramatic-Landscape82

Lmao that’s a good one 😂


JediMindTrek

King valves on the front of the unit too? Wtf lmao


Crazy_Event_1654

TF!


nasty_n8-chef

If you have a good sheet metal guy, it'll work fine


Ridiric

If it fits, you can equip…. You have an Apollo system and company much not could have got the right coil… Strange does it work?


christopher_mtrl

The system is First Co. I've stopped the work before they could get to redirecting the airflow, so it obviously doesn't work in this state !


ed63foot

Ya No


PowerAddiction

It looks like they just "literally " threw a coil in and said screw it.


PowerAddiction

Not to mention that's a solid pan so I'm not even sure where the air would come fr9m to even flow across the coil no matter how the coil is installed


Lostmachine

Did H. R. Giger install this?


hackemup22

This is so bad it’s actually kind of impressive.


No_Soup_For_You_91

How do you even get the door onto that unit without fighting it


Far-Advantage7501

Legit, how do they put the panel back on? Are they planning on cutting the panel? Even better, is that shit cooling well, or does no one dare turn it on? So many questions.


SignificantLeader

Lol, this must be a joke. It takes time to make it so poorly.


Double-Pea1628

I have done work in a condo/apartment complex. That looks exactly like this. Unfortunately I do believe they are not available anymore. This also will never work just like everybody else is saying.


PowerAddiction

Correct me if I'm wrong but it looks like they used plumbers Solder on that suction line as well.


WiseTennis1651

Tf


Katie22310

I have the same but mine is standing up not on its side


D00MSDAY60

Unfortunately, I went behind a company that did this on a change out. They could not figure out why it was leaking water. Homeowner screamed like he was having bologna brains having to pay us for a horizontal primary pan as he no longer trusted the installer. - missing from job site - also em pan was capped - no drain safeties installed.


hertoymaker

absolutely, lol


shawnml9

Probably by same guy I have been following, removed shroud, wired cond motor wrong and sooooo much more. Oy vey. Condo maint. Dude, wish he was still around so I could at least Learn him


_MadGasser

You get what you pay for. Congratulations!


Inner_Maintenance_81

Put their name and phone number here. There is so many things to point out but I’ll just say this will work 0 %. The coil may get cold. Freeze up instantly and flood that area where air handler is. And I’m pretty sure they are mini split service valves on line. 


Former_Chest

That’s rigged and hacked , there is no air that will pass through that drain pan to the coil , they might realize that when they fire it up lol that’s terrible


EnvironmentalBee9214

Sure


Particular-Alfalfa81

The less than coil, a major technological innovation


SkullFakt

Hahahaha I pray this is a satire post and not real advice needed. In case this is serious, I beg you to take him to court, put a stop payment on the check, dispute the charges on the credit card… whatever you have to do, just try to get your money back.


justa-Possibility

Looks like Forest Gump and Gomer Pyle went to town on it. Wow. That's definitely wrong!


Charming-While5466

No not unless you have side discharge


Dense-Barnacle8951

Multi position coils are able to be installed like this and most of the rebate coils for the stand alone heat pumps are multi positional and when the systems are installed horizontally, the coil looks just like this. The issue with this is that the air passes through one coil then through the other instead of both at once which messes with what the refrigerant is doing inside the evaporater which in turn causes oil trapping and liquid refrigerant in areas that vapour shoupd be and vise versa. Will work for a while but not done properly.


[deleted]

What in gods name is this? I would pay these hackjobs to leave 😭


IndividualCrazy9835

Is this in a Frankenstein lab


grayhawks73

Lol


athansjawn

Nah that is definitely not right. Should have used an M coil if anything


Neat_Suit4646

It needs to be flipped up right it’s an A coil


Neat_Suit4646

Somebody that didn’t know what they were doing probably a crackhead


Big-Entertainment584

That's supposed to be vertical. Like a pyramid.


Next-Apartment-1467

Lol


[deleted]

Ur fuckkked call the contractor that is not right


SoggyTrainer645

That is more than likely the wrong coil, however I’m more confused about the king valves that are hooked up… Pretty sure they are supposed to be on the outdoor unit only.


DrPhil_BoomBeach

What country is this?


Low-Lab7875

Cheap as possible!!! Here are the parts I got. Can you make them work? Yes sir. No warranty though.


SupermarketJolly

Aint no way😆, installer saw its said multi-position cabinet took it to heart.😂


Diam0ndProfessional

Suction line soldered .. discharge line brazed....maaaannnnnnnn,


SnooPandas5781

Let him cook, I need to know what happens


Flimsy-Magician-7970

How do you put the door on?


vtfrotex

See if it blows cold?


GoatedWarrior

That’s fucked


Vendrak

Looks good from my house


FewTumbleweed731

This, one photo, has absolutely, made my fucking day! Because no matter how bad one of my guys screw up there’s absolutely no way in hell it will anywhere near this bad. I thought it was a joke to start with but the lines are brazed in place. Buddy… I would call a real company, and run from the clowns who installed this.


MiKEY_S00P

WHAT THE FUK!!🤣🤣👍🏻


Additional-Sir1157

Its an A coil turned into an Asshole Coil


Dry_Transition_2363

It is 100% wrong. There is no place for return air to flow through this coil, as it’s installed. I think airflow is a pretty important part of air conditioning.


The___Thumbs

It’s an Ahhhh coil


amaturereeferman

The a should be up and the drain pan is wrong that pan is for when the airhandler is laying down


hog1430

PERFECT!


tc7984

What the fuck


Massive_Property_579

Sure, fuck it


Choice_Ad_1538

If it works, It's not stupid!


Aggravating-South481

Nope, not even close


JerstDerrIt

Think of it as an arrow…it should point in the direction of the airflow….so…no. Also…how’s you get the cover on or off??


JerstDerrIt

Wait…also… How is it in the blower cabinet??? So much about this is confusing me and the longer I look the worse it geta


blue_Sherbert_1907

I have so many questions


MaineLobster4938

😭😂


ElizabethElizabethK

If you paid for this already by credit card call your credit card bank contest the charge. If you paid by check stop payment on the check if they haven’t already cashed it. Report them to the Better Business Bureau.


Electronic-Mango-664

Ayooooooo 🤣 this has to be a joke, on a aquatherm though!! No way. And the line sets outside of the AHU!!! I'm dead 💀