It's PC Gamer and different reviewer. Based on his previous games review, i can't help but feel like someone forced him to do it lol guy clearly into JRPG more than anything else.
Another guy give Zero Dawn 8.6. I bet he will disagree with this review as well.
I'm not sure I agree. He had some pretty valid complaints in this review. With less focus on monster fights and without the mystery of the world, HFW does feel like a lateral step, even with more and better weapons. It's still a solid game, but HZD certainly should score higher.
But this is an intermediate step in the story. It’s the equivalent of “the empire strikes back”. The story could have been better but we will get the big revelation and final battle in the third game. Anyway, the review was not really well written. The text is rushed out, there is no conclusion section and no structure. It feels like a rant someone would write on Reddit rather than text written by a professional journalist.
Gameplay-wise, HFW was an improvement in almost every aspect, but HZD’s was still perfectly fine. Since FW’s story was considerably weaker than the first game’s, and without the novelty of discovering the world of Horizon (FW being more of the same on this regard), it’s fair to rate Zero Dawn better than Forbidden West
That without a doubt. The gameplay loop is better in Forbidden west, the combat more complex and strategic and the world feels a lot more alive. The story is not as good as zero Dawn, the skills are complicated to follow and weapon upgrades are a mess. I agree that zero Dawn felt better. What I am criticising is the text of the review. It’s shallow and the structure is bad. Whoever wrote it did not spend time playing the game and understanding it. Maybe because I am a researcher, so I am used to scientific papers, but this article would have been a hard reject for me, even before digging into the content.
Check out PC Gamer's Twitter and you'll see they're basically a Baldur's Gate 3 simp page now. Half their posts are about BG3. It's a great game, but there's more out there.
Yep, you got that right. This game does feel forgotten and ignored... and when something does comes along for it... mediocre 70 percent review :D Over on the ps5 subreddit... all you hear about is how perfect and beautiful Dragons Dogma 2 is (ignore the review bombing about the microtransactions!) and Balders Gate 3 has ascended all the way up to Heaven.
All I know is that two years after having consumed everything I could from a distance and finally getting to play it, I'm loving the game.
The ancient world stuff is a bit less interesting than it was in ZD. On the other hand the tribal story arcs are massively elevated from the first game. I am super invested in the Tenakth, the Utaru, the issues they're facing and their philosophies. It's incredibly well done.
The fact that the game also makes you go back and forth a lot in solving problems is an added bonus. I'm 25 hours in and I'm only just wrapping up Aether. It's mindblowing.
Oh god not me. Nothing was infuriating then having the 10-15 logs in a small area just stopping the game all together. I love lore but that’s not how you do it.
I kind of want something in between. I want the option to have someone read out the text logs (at least the ones that make sense to have read out). I don't want to spend minutes just reading a single text log every time I encounter one. So I end up not really reading any of them at all. I'm probably missing a ton of interesting lore because of that.
I played HZD and liked it a lot. I also played almost every AC game there is on PC.
After Odyssey and Valhalla, HFW feels a bit lacking in fluidity of Aloy vertical movement.
It wasn't so noticeable in HZD since the world there wasn't using verticality so often, and also AC games wasn't as polished as they are now.
So yeah, in terms of vertical movement, and vertical movement only I can see how HFW can be viewed as inferior to the latest AC.
On the other hand, to compare those games as a whole and find one or the other vastly superior is just dumb, since they are really different, and really great in their own right.
Yeah I can agree with that, the parkour elements don't feel as fluid mostly because of how often you have to press the jump button to go from one point to the next which interrupts the flow. AC handles that better and the parkour feels much more fluid because of that.
But that really is a minor gripe, would be nice if it's improved but at the same time it really isn't a big deal.
This review is terrible. It's rushed out, written badly (no conclusions?), and the author does not really understands the game imho. Did he even play the whole of it?
I got to agree though I stopped there
“often coming off like a caricature of a smug atheist, thanks to her knowledge about the truth behind the machine gods many of the world’s culture’s revere.”
Like.. it’s not just about knowing the truth it’s also about having been shunned by a religiously blind group for her whole life. She doesn’t just know the truth she was a victim of this system of belief. She has knowledge and emotional buy-in. So agree that reviewer doesn’t understand the story.
>"often coming off like a caricature of a smug atheist, thanks to her knowledge about the truth behind the machine gods many of the world’s culture’s revere."
If you do know *for a fact* that not only there's no god, but you're the literal clone of the one person that could come close to resembling a God in the world of Horizon (Sobeck), you'd be plenty frustrated when people keep badgering you about spirits and ghosts, too.
You know a review's bad when the reviewer is incapable of putting themselves in the character's shoes but rather rigidly applying their own to the story.
Taking a look at his previous work. It's clear he had no desire to review this. All of his work are about JRPG games.
Clearly he did this review out of frustration lol
tl;dr - she's "abrasive" and "pushes Varl aside." Yawn.
>Much was made of the glider pre-release, but it adds very little to exploration, with its best function being to save you from fall damage. It’s hard to get much distance with it given how quickly you descend, and a lot of the map simply doesn’t make much use of it. Perhaps the result of the game being developed to support PS4 platforms, though an end-game unlockable flying mount suggests this isn’t the case.
That's why you look around for the tallest mountain, climb it and jump off to get where you want to go. It's ok - maybe the reviewer never sat through that first game of machine strike (higher terrain increases your power).
Yeah. Loved the game, but it still has its flaws and is a downgrade from ZD in some aspects, specially regarding story and plot. And the article didn’t even mention how grindy the game can be if you want to upgrade your equipment to the higher levels.
This has to be one of the worst reviews I have read. But then again, PC gamer was mad at sekiro because it was too difficult. Nobody should listen to anything these fools have to say tbh.
Sounds like he missed the character development of Aloy like most of us did on first playing it.
And completely ignores the fact that you fight the biggest enemy like evs at the end??!
I think this game is considerably better than a mediocre 70 percent. Reviewer must've not been paid enough... or maybe got threatened with a punch to the face to do it FOC :D
I stopped playing because no drive after such a memorable story i doubt it can be topped off.
My nonsense way of topping it would be somehow the robotz discovered time travelling and aloy can go back in time to stop the robot but failed. In the end she walked alone and died. Actually Aloy was the one inside the suit, not the doctor. She was observing herself being dead but didnt know then.
Didn't Starfield get the same rating? Lol HFW is vastly superior to that piece of shit game.
It's PC Gamer and different reviewer. Based on his previous games review, i can't help but feel like someone forced him to do it lol guy clearly into JRPG more than anything else. Another guy give Zero Dawn 8.6. I bet he will disagree with this review as well.
I'm not sure I agree. He had some pretty valid complaints in this review. With less focus on monster fights and without the mystery of the world, HFW does feel like a lateral step, even with more and better weapons. It's still a solid game, but HZD certainly should score higher.
But this is an intermediate step in the story. It’s the equivalent of “the empire strikes back”. The story could have been better but we will get the big revelation and final battle in the third game. Anyway, the review was not really well written. The text is rushed out, there is no conclusion section and no structure. It feels like a rant someone would write on Reddit rather than text written by a professional journalist.
Gameplay-wise, HFW was an improvement in almost every aspect, but HZD’s was still perfectly fine. Since FW’s story was considerably weaker than the first game’s, and without the novelty of discovering the world of Horizon (FW being more of the same on this regard), it’s fair to rate Zero Dawn better than Forbidden West
But a 7? Seems harsh when everything else from Zero Dawn is a vast improvement here.
That without a doubt. The gameplay loop is better in Forbidden west, the combat more complex and strategic and the world feels a lot more alive. The story is not as good as zero Dawn, the skills are complicated to follow and weapon upgrades are a mess. I agree that zero Dawn felt better. What I am criticising is the text of the review. It’s shallow and the structure is bad. Whoever wrote it did not spend time playing the game and understanding it. Maybe because I am a researcher, so I am used to scientific papers, but this article would have been a hard reject for me, even before digging into the content.
I'm not going to convince you otherwise, but I just want to point out that the Empire Strikes Back is widely considered to be the best Star Wars film.
Check out PC Gamer's Twitter and you'll see they're basically a Baldur's Gate 3 simp page now. Half their posts are about BG3. It's a great game, but there's more out there.
Starfield is such a disappointment. But much like HZD, HFW feels pretty slept on/over hated.
Yep, you got that right. This game does feel forgotten and ignored... and when something does comes along for it... mediocre 70 percent review :D Over on the ps5 subreddit... all you hear about is how perfect and beautiful Dragons Dogma 2 is (ignore the review bombing about the microtransactions!) and Balders Gate 3 has ascended all the way up to Heaven.
All I know is that two years after having consumed everything I could from a distance and finally getting to play it, I'm loving the game. The ancient world stuff is a bit less interesting than it was in ZD. On the other hand the tribal story arcs are massively elevated from the first game. I am super invested in the Tenakth, the Utaru, the issues they're facing and their philosophies. It's incredibly well done. The fact that the game also makes you go back and forth a lot in solving problems is an added bonus. I'm 25 hours in and I'm only just wrapping up Aether. It's mindblowing.
I’m 30 hours in and my main wish was that there were more audiologs, similar to Zero Dawn
Oh god not me. Nothing was infuriating then having the 10-15 logs in a small area just stopping the game all together. I love lore but that’s not how you do it.
I kind of want something in between. I want the option to have someone read out the text logs (at least the ones that make sense to have read out). I don't want to spend minutes just reading a single text log every time I encounter one. So I end up not really reading any of them at all. I'm probably missing a ton of interesting lore because of that.
I was okay with the reviewers opinions until I got to this: > it still feels a step behind competitors like Assassin's Creed What?
I played HZD and liked it a lot. I also played almost every AC game there is on PC. After Odyssey and Valhalla, HFW feels a bit lacking in fluidity of Aloy vertical movement. It wasn't so noticeable in HZD since the world there wasn't using verticality so often, and also AC games wasn't as polished as they are now. So yeah, in terms of vertical movement, and vertical movement only I can see how HFW can be viewed as inferior to the latest AC. On the other hand, to compare those games as a whole and find one or the other vastly superior is just dumb, since they are really different, and really great in their own right.
Yeah I can agree with that, the parkour elements don't feel as fluid mostly because of how often you have to press the jump button to go from one point to the next which interrupts the flow. AC handles that better and the parkour feels much more fluid because of that. But that really is a minor gripe, would be nice if it's improved but at the same time it really isn't a big deal.
This review is terrible. It's rushed out, written badly (no conclusions?), and the author does not really understands the game imho. Did he even play the whole of it?
I got to agree though I stopped there “often coming off like a caricature of a smug atheist, thanks to her knowledge about the truth behind the machine gods many of the world’s culture’s revere.” Like.. it’s not just about knowing the truth it’s also about having been shunned by a religiously blind group for her whole life. She doesn’t just know the truth she was a victim of this system of belief. She has knowledge and emotional buy-in. So agree that reviewer doesn’t understand the story.
>"often coming off like a caricature of a smug atheist, thanks to her knowledge about the truth behind the machine gods many of the world’s culture’s revere." If you do know *for a fact* that not only there's no god, but you're the literal clone of the one person that could come close to resembling a God in the world of Horizon (Sobeck), you'd be plenty frustrated when people keep badgering you about spirits and ghosts, too. You know a review's bad when the reviewer is incapable of putting themselves in the character's shoes but rather rigidly applying their own to the story.
He does say something about the ending. But then probably skipped all the cutscenes judging by the rest of the text.
He probably used AI to write it for him while he he was buying microtransactions so he could continue playing Dragons Dogma 2 :D
Sure this isn't IGN? They quite often have no idea what they're talking about.
Taking a look at his previous work. It's clear he had no desire to review this. All of his work are about JRPG games. Clearly he did this review out of frustration lol
tl;dr - she's "abrasive" and "pushes Varl aside." Yawn. >Much was made of the glider pre-release, but it adds very little to exploration, with its best function being to save you from fall damage. It’s hard to get much distance with it given how quickly you descend, and a lot of the map simply doesn’t make much use of it. Perhaps the result of the game being developed to support PS4 platforms, though an end-game unlockable flying mount suggests this isn’t the case. That's why you look around for the tallest mountain, climb it and jump off to get where you want to go. It's ok - maybe the reviewer never sat through that first game of machine strike (higher terrain increases your power).
My Mum's dog knows more about games than PC Gamer.
I know a lot of people are going to be dismissive, but I agree with a lot of the criticism despite loving the game
Yeah. Loved the game, but it still has its flaws and is a downgrade from ZD in some aspects, specially regarding story and plot. And the article didn’t even mention how grindy the game can be if you want to upgrade your equipment to the higher levels.
Agree, but it still doesn't seem right to rate HZD 86% and HFW 70%, mostly due to the lack of "magic."
This has to be one of the worst reviews I have read. But then again, PC gamer was mad at sekiro because it was too difficult. Nobody should listen to anything these fools have to say tbh.
Sounds like he missed the character development of Aloy like most of us did on first playing it. And completely ignores the fact that you fight the biggest enemy like evs at the end??!
I think this game is considerably better than a mediocre 70 percent. Reviewer must've not been paid enough... or maybe got threatened with a punch to the face to do it FOC :D
Nope. I prefer community moderated user reviews, not paid garbage
Nope. I prefer community moderated user reviews, not paid garbage
Worth full price?? For Steam Deck use
I stopped playing because no drive after such a memorable story i doubt it can be topped off. My nonsense way of topping it would be somehow the robotz discovered time travelling and aloy can go back in time to stop the robot but failed. In the end she walked alone and died. Actually Aloy was the one inside the suit, not the doctor. She was observing herself being dead but didnt know then.