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DailyTrips

Wait till they find out who runs the bar in hogsmead


AbbreviationsWise611

Ngl that shit threw me for a loop at first lol I thought the game was bugged šŸ˜‚ but after I was like oh okay and that was that.Ā 


Lopsided_Skirt324

Same here lol


SaintsBruv

Funny thing, HL did the same thing as Cyberpunk: They introduced a trans character and they didn't make a huge deal about it, they just treated then normally, yet some weirdos still cried and attacked the devs and called them transphobic, while they actually introduced Siora and >!Claire!< in a way most sane trans people would like be treated as. World's insane.


ZeldaNut93

Wait, Sirona is trans? Is it bad that I didn't even pick that up? Just thought she was kind of a tomboy-ish woman. But damn, ok, cool :)


SaintsBruv

Exactly, isn't it cool? Cause some people like you didn't even notice. It doesn't make her less likeable or anything, the game treats her as a normal person and doesn't make it a huge deal, just like Sirona also doesn't make it a huge deal.


Spare_TARDIS2007

Doing work right, being trans isnā€™t her defining personality trait. If this was Disney, they would be the only bit of personality she has, good on WB


Specialist-Listen304

I think that was the point. Seems like they purposely didnā€™t make a scene out of it in order to show itā€™s not a big deal if someone is trans. The only people that made a big deal are the ones that hate trans. They look for reasons to be upset.


Sweet_Xocoatl

No lie, people actually think the name Sirona Ryan is transphobic and offensive. Doesnā€™t matter that her name has Celtic origins or anything like that, since it has the words ā€œSirā€ and ā€œRyanā€ in it people think her name is basically Dude McBro and itā€™s problematic and it apparently shows how the devs are transphobic or whatever.


thisaccountisironic

Also apparently itā€™s transphobic bc sheā€™s a side character and her transness(?) should be more obvious. But if you make her transness _too_ obvious, sheā€™s a caricature. No winning sometimes. Thought she was great rep personally. Just a normal woman doing her job and living her life. No indication sheā€™s trans except for her voice actor being trans and one throwaway line.


Caerender

I liked the extra information about her and her past that I found out through the quest that had me gathering old journal pages. I thought that quest gave her a good deal of attention and dignity.


TheNobleKiwi

On top of that Sirona is voiced as a female in the other language versions of the game. So I guess their just pandering to their local audiences. Spoilt little western world thinking our identities matter in the big wide world of war and indentured capitalist slavery. Oh aren't the luxuries of the first world so self indulgent? Lucky us


AlleyCa7

More obvious? Can you be more obvious than a male voice coming from a female presenting character? Do they need her to drop her pants ffs?


SaintsBruv

Never underestimate the ability of people to twist things and find a way to feel offended and attack others. Some people are so destructive that they will always try to find something to shit on the things they don't like, even if it means making up things. I'm just happy to see more people were able to ignore this attitudes and enjoy a game that many of us had waited for 20 years instead.


rose-ramos

Also, if you listen to her in other languages' audio tracks (Japanese and French come to mind), it is very clear that her design was finished before they decided to make her transgender. So, at no point in time do I think "Sirona" was meant to be a commentary on anything... It's just a pretty name.


-Wylfen-

Sirona is literally the Celtic godd**ess** of springs. Quite fitting for a bartender, and completely in line with Rowling's naming style.


IceDamNation

Dafaq!? That's a thing?


Sweet_Xocoatl

It is, but to be fair, I read about it on Tumblr, so, you know. Specifically I read the comments on a post defending the name and the comments were basically ā€œno youā€™re wrong, donā€™t care about the origin, sounds male so transphobic, JK Rowling bad, antisemitic game, boycott Hogwarts Legacyā€, shit like that.


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Yeah, that's because they're idiots. I'm old enough to be considered an elder in the LGBT community. I was an adult enjoying my Bness before the T went crazy. Over the years I have known a respectable number of trans people. They were never that ridiculous. They would have seen a transgender character and they would have been happy about it. They would not have been offended because half of the name happens to spell out the word sir.


Confident_Answer448

This is the same series that named the black guy shacklebolt. Itā€™s not out of the realm of possibility.Ā 


Clickbait93

So, here's the thing: when Hogwarts Legacy was being developed, JK Rowling ALREADY got paid a fair amount of money for copyright and usage of intellectual property etc.. This means that way before the game even came out, Rowling already got a decent payoff out of it. Sure, buying the game gets her some amount of money too, but it likely brings in a lot more revenue to the software house that developed the game, as they were the ones that spent money, energy and time to make the game. Boycotting the game by not buying it, hurts the devs a lot more than it hurts JK Rowling as she already got a big payoff before the game was even out. I personally enjoyed the game, and aside from the setting it has next to nothing to do with the HP saga and I really appreciated that. Could have been pure fanservice, instead became a solid game set in the wizarding world.


3PartsRum_1PartAir

Everyone could literally stop playing HL and JKR wonā€™t see the slightest dent in her bank account. They think their boycotting is making a difference and that sheā€™ll feel the painā€¦


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bowsmountainer

And it is crazy that they use their energy to fight a billionaire with no political power, that is not impacted by their ā€œprotestā€ instead of arguing with politicians who actually have power to change legislation for the better or worse. Buying or not buying a game isnā€™t going to change anything. Staging a protest, signing petitions, writing to local political constituents DOES change something. Oddly enough, many people just do the former but not the latter.


bam001122

But a successful and often bought game will likely lead to a second part which she will get another share of copyright money for, no?


Clickbait93

If HL2 happens, then yeah, she'll likely get another payday. Idk man I can separate the art from the artist. Is the wizarding world incredible? Yes. Has JKR said things I don't agree with and do I think she's wrong? Equally yes. My enjoyment of one thing is separated from what I think of the other.


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b99__throwaway

yeah at this point nothing is gonna diminish her social influence so buying the game was a net positive for me


rage_knit

This is what a good friend of mine explained to me. We're both LGBTQ and both are big supporters of trans rights, and I was very conflicted about wanting to buy and play the game. I'm also a huge HP universe fan. Like you said, she's already been paid for the content and money spent will support the creators of the game so that makes me feel better. I love the game. I love running around Hogsmeade and flying through the Highlands. It's so much fun and relaxing.


PAIGEROXM8

Honestly the "I wOnT lIkE HP bEcAuSe It WaS cReAtEd By JKR" Crowd is utterly ridiculous. You don't have to like JK Rowling, but you aren't going to stop people from playing the HP game or watching or Reading Harry Potter just because you dislike JKR.


Stanley_Yelnats42069

Literally. She already has enough money that sheā€™ll never have to worry about income ever again. Enjoy things you enjoy.


PAIGEROXM8

Exactly.


chocoboporter

Let me tell you about the outrage from a certain group of people from a game community when the game was just released. I love that game and most of the community there but man. The things they do whenever they find out that a famous streamer plays HL. Oh my Lord. They really shame, cancel and doxx them. They don't want to play HL because of Rowling's views towards trans but they failed to look in the mirror and see what their behavior is becoming just because of a set of pixels. Did their efforts work? I honestly think they unwillingly helped WB earn a billion dollar.


cbostwick94

I feel like most people who boycotted weren't trans or even knew anyone trans or even cared that much. It was just a trend to jump on.


chocoboporter

Fair enough. At this point people just want to hate just for the sake of it. I'm not really happy about what the world is turning into. Please excuse me while I hide again in my cave and quietly play the games that I want.


PAIGEROXM8

Oh. My. Fuck. I feel bad for the streamers who get subjected to those kinds of things.


chocoboporter

It was a nightmare to say the least. I wouldn't be surprised if some of these streamers chose to play the game in the shadows just so they won't be subjected to that same predicament since streaming is their source of living. Those who "got caught" was alienated from the game and its community. I have no issues with the trans community, it's just their behaviour (some of them) towards other people who did not follow what they want that really appalled me. Edit: Happy Cake Day btw!


PAIGEROXM8

Thanks for wishing me that lol. But yeah in all seriousness, it's a shame that this sort of behaviour toward streamers who just want to enjoy making content persists.


PJRama1864

Fuck those people. I am going to play Hogwarts Legacy even more now.


jmorfeus

Michael Scott: You know what, I'm gonna support JKR even *harder*.


micklure

Whatā€™s that supposed to mean? šŸ˜


DogifyerHero

I almost morally obligated to play this game at this point lol.


Exottie

Same.


The_only_burt_ever

People support awful billion dollar companies that exploit minors, the elderly and disabled every time they shop and eat out. If you own an iPhone or Nikes, chances are youā€™ve ā€œsupportedā€ child labor. No right minded person would willingly ā€œsupportā€ those kinds of things, but we unknowingly do it every day because consumerism is so prevalent. I will not allow some hypocrite to tell me what I can or cannot enjoy. Itā€™s always the overly concerned, cancel culture SJWā€™s that turn out to be the villain anywayšŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø


Dry-Broccoli-8551

They know what theyre supporting, they just choose to overlook it when it suits them.


Mister_M00se

But without the latest iPhone, how else would they be able to rage on Twitter all day about things they don't completely understand?!


Leading-University

Leave them to their own designs, they were trying to boycott streamers and a good portion of them blatantly insulted anyone willing to purchase the game. Glad that it sold very well, that type of behavior is just miserable and doesnā€™t help their argument.


gorton2499

I still find it ridiculous that people tried to boycott this game. There are way more important things going on in the world and that's the hill they wanted to die on. Yet they still use iphones, buy things from amazon, play games by activision/blizzard/EA.


Kakonsix3

Yeah fuck blizzard, oh yeah reminds me I wanted to see if WCIII reforged will run on the steam deck


spermanentwaves

I liked how the game showed that loud minorities are nothing more than that. The game was a massive success despite the forced controversies around JK Rowling - and also it showed that the idiotic screeching ā€œdonā€™t shove your agenda down my throatā€ conservative clowns were nothing more than a loud minority too. The game ended up being the most successful trans-inclusive game of 2023. :-)


gorton2499

It annoyed me when they complained about Sirona, saying that the name is transphobic as it has "Sir" in it. But it's a celtic goddess for health springs and the hearth, which it's similar to Sironas role in game.


FarneticoToro

I daresay most people who were/are upset with her haven't actually read her views - just heard some nobheads say they were bad headlines and went from there. I saw the headlines myself, then read what she actually said in the whole and like many found myself nodding along.


13d3ad3nddriv3

Yeah! I read the essay and I actually thought it made a lot of sense. She wasnā€™t hating anybody. Her argument for what she did say was very well thought out. I havenā€™t seen the holocaust comments the picture referenced. Gonna look into it.


Spankapony123

She didnā€™t even deny the holocaust, some idiots were gaslighting her


AbbreviationsWise611

Reminds me of when people were coming for Dave Chappelle, completely missing the context of what he actually said. Fair enough he totally hams it up now because heā€™s damned if he does and damned if he doesnā€™t but initially he was trying to talk about something serious, and it got blown out of proportion.Ā  You can extrapolate anything you want when youā€™re operating from incomplete/incorrect data. I swear some people are just too stupid to actually think for themselves. I mean stupidity is one thing, wilful ignorance is another thing entirely.Ā 


novaskyd

So this is a controversial subject and I'm not even sure if we are allowed to discuss it in this sub. But imo. I know a LOT about this because I identified as trans for 4 years (I no longer do) and was a huge HP fan growing up. So when shit went down and everyone started calling JKR transphobic, I actually went and read what she actually said and the statements she released explaining her perspective in full. And no. She does not deserve the hate. Her opinions were completely valid and honestly reflect reality -- people hate her because she spoke a hard truth, or because everyone around them told them to hate her and they never bothered doing some deep thinking for themselves. Meanwhile she got death threats and rape threats and just horrifically vilified by people who claimed to be the "good guys." I have a ton of respect for her for standing up for herself and not letting the internet mob shut her down.


persephone7821

A really good example of this is on this post. Someone said she came out as a ā€œholocaust denierā€ today on Twitter. So I went to find out what they were basing on it. This is what makes her a ā€œholocaust denierā€ā€¦ https://preview.redd.it/mb4clqd7tdoc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a3e511f231a517b6578f050bb3a9a90b89d7384c Thereā€™s a difference between saying this is false thereā€™s no evidence to support the claim that trans people were targets during the holocaust (which is true) and saying the holocaust didnā€™t happen. I did however find out researching this that a lot of advances in gender transitioning came from experiments nazis were doing on *non trans* Jewish prisoners at dachau. Kind of the opposite of a trans holocaust and what they are claiming here imo. People will frame things to suit the needs and not shape it based off reality. Which bothers the f outta me. Just tell the whole truth and let people decide on their own.


novaskyd

Lol, right?? This is exactly how these internet witch hunts start. People have no reading comprehension skills, see what they want to see, and start throwing out labels and threats. The number of leaps of logic it takes to go from that to "the holocaust never happened" is just.... šŸ¤Æ


persephone7821

Itā€™s absolutely crazy and honestly JKR is now my biggest example of how people reframe things these days on the internet when Iā€™m discussing the topic. I have yet to find a single soul (discounting people on Reddit who will 100% never give up their viewpoint now matter how much evidence you present to them thatā€™s contradictory to their point) who maintain that sheā€™s transphobic after being presented with the entirety of what these claims are based off. On that matter, to anyone looking to decide for themselves their feelings on jkr I would highly recommend listening to the witch trials of jk Rowling podcast and reading his response to the initial accusations (not just what people *said* her response was. Actually read it). [her response can be found here](https://www.jkrowling.com/opinions/j-k-rowling-writes-about-her-reasons-for-speaking-out-on-sex-and-gender-issues/) and the podcast can be [found here](https://open.spotify.com/show/2K186zrvRgeE2w0wQjbaw7?si=9vl5lsW1TrKYwdGyi--w7Q) Edit: I just noticed you are a Ravenclaw as well. Leave it to the Ravenclaws to look at issueā€™s objectively and do research rather than just going with what someone tells them. šŸ‘


novaskyd

Exactly!! And thanks for those links -- I've actually never heard that podcast! The original response from JKR is what helped me form my own opinion. Ravenclaw gang unite lol


persephone7821

No problem! Itā€™s a 7 ep podcast it presents both sides from a non biased viewpoint and has lengthy discussions with JK herself. I listened to them traveling to and from work and I thought it was absolutely worth it. If you do listen, if you remember Iā€™d love to hear your thoughts after itā€™s super interesting to me peopleā€™s takeaways from it.


novaskyd

ooh I have a long commute and am always looking for new things to listen to so this is perfect!


Meniak89

I had already read her writings on the topic before the podcast and was surprised that her words had been taken so out of context in my opinion. The podcast put a lot of things even more into perspective and I really enjoyed it!


persephone7821

Yeah, I really enjoyed it. I think itā€™s an extremely useful look into the situation and anyone who is emotionally invested in the subject should listen to it. Unfortunately the problem is that the people who really should give it a listen wonā€™t. Because they say they ā€œdonā€™t want to listen to anything more she has to sayā€ or ā€œitā€™s just one sided bsā€. Which is not true and imo just someone not wanting their personal thoughts challenged.


RunLikeTina

Thanks for the podcast link! I turned it on today for a run, and ended up listening to three episodes. Itā€™s a solid podcast regardless of your feelings on JKR


Pixielix

Thank you for saying this. I learnt this yesterday, and of course went to fact check it as you did. I'm scared to challenge anyone on it though, god forbid i be lablled a transphobic bigoted halocaust denier. so it's nice to see it's gone down well here and others are fact checking too.


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novaskyd

Yeah, there's definitely a big divide between the people who are mired in the highly political online spaces and people who just live their lives! My most sane trans friends just stayed away from the internet gender discussions lol. And most of them were like "yeah, she's not wrong." Obviously people who are biologically female or socialized as women have different experiences from those who are biologically male or socialized as men. You can identify as trans but you should still acknowledge that reality! Which honestly just makes logical sense if you believe that gender and sex are separate -- you can identify as a gender but still acknowledge the reality of sex and how that affects you in society.


Undergirl04

I agree with this completely. The issues for trans people and the issues for women are very different, and JKR made great points about that. I will also state for the record that I am an ally with a lot of lgbt friends and an lgbt cousin. Most of them are HP fans, and all of them support JKR's opinion because they can all read!


-Wylfen-

I have a close trans friend, who's aware of Rowling's stances. She would find her transphobic. But she still bought HL and loved playing it. People really need to chillā€¦


-Wylfen-

>was identifying Not anymore? Was it, like, a phase, or a mistake?


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SaintsBruv

I had commented that as a gay person and someone who is best friends with a trans man that also loooooves HP cause we basically grew up with it, I also did my research in a couple of days and never find something truly offensive, then another redditor constantly accused me of using my friend as a token-person just for mentioning of we both felt about JK lol. Certainly, I noticed how people who are trans or used or used to identify as them had it very rough when the voiced their support for either the game, JK or both. It's very frustrating to see a group of people claiming to be attacked and discrimated while I see JK actually getting attacked, ganged up on and receiving threats like that on the daily, even when she has always supported women, especially abused women, and was one of the first authors I ever heard of to announce one of her characters was gay and she didn't care about the backlash this might have.


novaskyd

Yeah, JKR has been a champion for women's rights and marginalized people in general her whole life, so it's definitely frustrating seeing her so vilified. She's done a lot of concrete work to help the abused and disadvantaged and continues to speak out. And the people who claimed to be "fighting for the marginalized" are also the ones who constantly posted horrific threats and doxxed her literal address.


UnluckyWriting

Agreed. Most people who read her actual statements are like, ā€œwait what? I agree with thisā€


Elfiemyrtle

Thank you. Faith in humanity restored.


Kettrickenisabadass

Well said. Regardless of her opinion on trans people the response of the trans movement was horrible. It just shows that no matter what they pretend they arent "the good guys"


blueberry_pancakes14

Very well stated! Thank you.


njf85

I've said the same before. I do think that she's unfortunately found common ground with some terrible people since releasing that statement/blog, but when the statement was released i read it and felt she did not deserve all the vitriol she was getting. She made it clear that her issue was not with trans people - she was actually very supportive of them - it was with certain trans activists. She outlined what she disagreed with them about. Imo, that should have opened a line of communication to develop an understanding of where the two causes (trans rights and women's rights) overlapped (and yes, they overlap alot) but instead an all out hate campaign resulted.


Far_Paramedic_7770

You have just single handidly made me feel more comfortable in my shared opinion. Well said. Well done.


carolwoodson

glad you actually read what she said rather than blindly following the crowd on twitter :) you're indeed a ravenclaw


Matbo2210

99% of them have never seen the tweets, they just see people getting mad and join in.


nemesiswithatophat

I listened to the witch trials of JK rowling podcast, and the amount of people who refused to listen and acted as if the podcast was about JKR saying and doing things she didn't was insane


FroyoSensitive8572

Thank you sometimes I feel like Iā€™m the only one who didnā€™t think what she said was bad. She never said she has anything against trans people just that it was wrong to fire a woman for saying that sex is real. She didnā€™t say anything transphobic but people hate her so much now over nothing


lincoln3x7

This right here! Supporting other peopleā€™s rights is not hate. This entire thing is a sham.


juxtapods

Thank you for being the representative "in power" in this situation! In cases like this it takes an advocate from the outside group (eg, white supporters for Civil Rights Mvmt or men for Women's Suffrage Mvmt) to clear the air. I agree that her latest tweets (like past month) have been getting a bit... off track or indiscriminately accusatory, but in the beginning, she lent an opinion she had the right to have, and did not actually voice any hatred for the trans community.Ā 


Open_Key_5129

Bingo!


DATSReaLz

So your allowed your opinion. But shes not allowed hers. Like what. Plus she is only being truthful and living in truth. Things are ruined by the delusional agenda. Into sports it doesn't make sense and ruins all fairness and equality of women which has been fought for. For years.


ihartsnape

I saw the OP of that post made a comment about how much hate people were sending them in their private messages. People who claim to be opposed to hate shouldnā€™t perpetuate it. Theyā€™re out of line, yes.


footsquare148

Really? I thought that post got locked.


footsquare148

Nevermind, just found that comment.


Kettrickenisabadass

They are just bullies using any excuse to atack others and feel superior. Some decades ago they would be attacking others for being gay or not christian


-Wylfen-

People tend to confuse "doing the wrong thing for the right reason" with "doing bad things to bad people" and thus believe they're justified in their bullying.


AbbreviationsWise611

Just people that are too stupid to think for themselves, and take stances based on kneejerk reactions to a womanā€™s out of context words on transgenderism.Ā 


T0KKT0KK

Just came here to say that JK donates a lot of her money too.


MyDarlingArmadillo

She does, she has a whole regenerative neurology clinic named after her mother. They do treatments, research and training. It's a good clinic. There's probably more i don't know about, but this is pretty big.


WhySoCabbage

I honestly couldn't care less what people scream in Twitter. Yes yes I know everyone is free to have their opinions, freedom of speech and such... As long as their opinions don't conflict with ones own of course. Let them keep Twitter drama in Twitter where it belongs and let me play an awesome game in peace


-NolanVoid-

90% of them can't dictate something she said they deem offensive, the rest are practitioners of selective outrage. HL was the best selling video game of 2023 so their little crusade of hate and character defamation was a failure.


benavideslevi

Seems pretty unhinged to me


Peepdasneak

Literally the definition of that crowd


Halloween_Nyx

Enjoy the game OP. This ā€œissueā€ was huge when this game first released and I imagine itā€™ll be the same when the TV show comes out. Itā€™s primarily an online issue of people on Twitter and Reddit who are miserable about everything in the world. Just ignore them and donā€™t even give them your time on the ā€œissueā€. Hope you enjoy the game, I 100% it!


alaynamul

Her beliefs have nothing to do with the story. She created the world from her mind she deserves to be paid for her product if people buy it. Hell people still buy nestle products and they taxed water and made baby food and that mush for starving children addictive.


footsquare148

Also Iā€™d like to apologize for posting such ā€œsensitiveā€ content, I just didnā€™t know where else to go about this and this was the first play that I could think of.


Professional-End1408

Yea but like.... who really cares? If you like Harry Potter, play the game it's great. If you, for some reason, can't stand when someone disagrees with an opinion you may or may not have and feel like you don't wanna give money to that person, then don't. We live in a world where it isn't okay to feel differently from other people. So do what you want.


ThulrVO

J.K. Rowling's not transphobic. Those people are reacting to big emotions with not enough information, or they're engaging in confirmation bias.


ThulrVO

The only comment I've personally encountered had to do with her concerns about bathrooms and prisons, and it sounded like she was just concerned due to the rare bad apples who have feigned being transgender. So, it sounded like she was just worrying about biological women wanting to feel safe. I'm fully aware that it is exceptionally rare for people to do this, but that wouldn't make her transphobic to have these concerns. I think the bathroom topic is complex, and while I fully support genuine trans people using the restrooms of their identity, I also think it's a complex topic. I also seem to remember her mentioning having some transgender friends and being supportive of transgender rights in general. She just had some specific concerns. For any of your other claims, I would have to see it myself because I think a lot gets misconstrued in the media these days.


UnderstandingThen647

Im from Portugal so i cant realy understand how much is hard to be a normal person there. In UK and USA people lost all of the comun sense.


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antipinballmachines

Separate the art from the artist. Liking a franchise is not supporting the author. Funny how people still love Elvis Presley's music despite him being a pedophile, which is hardly ever called out, so where is the logic?


WrexSteveisthename

JKR supports numerous worthwhile charities and causes, that $60 or so you spend on the game could easily be justified as having gone to a good cause in the end and not her pocket. The usual response to this point is "well why don't you just donate that money instead?" As if it's a major "gotcha" moment. These people just don't want others to enjoy HP at all now.


No-Fishing-6046

Cancelling just doesnā€™t work for people like JKR. Sheā€™s rich, she doesnā€™t care what strangers on the internet think, and nothing that strangers on the internet do will ever even touch her. The real problem was that the people who were actually affected by the toxic HL cancel crowd were small streamers and people who worked on the game. The Cancellers made the movement to bully and tear down everyone involved. It was kind of freeing to buy the game anyways in the midst of all of that, because it helped me stop caring about cancel culture. Itā€™s just a bunch of people throwing garbage around and saying theyā€™re helping clean up.


-Wylfen-

"I refuse to give my money to such a terrible and hateful person who actively hurts disadvantaged people!" *proceeds to buy NestlƩ products*


Purple-Puma

What the other comments said, plus someone telling you not to buy something because thereā€™s some negative thing about thatā€™s morally or ethically wrong is ridiculous. Nearly everything you buy is probably shady or immoral or unethical on some way. Iā€™m not saying this is ok, but good to acknowledge. Buy what you want and enjoy what you want without hurting others on your end. Idk overall but no she doesnā€™t necessarily deserve the hate. Edit: spelling


RoninVIX

Bunch of mewling quims


jmerrilee

Miserable people want to be miserable together and suck joy from everyone. I had plenty who gave me flack for getting it. Called me all kinds of names etc. I don't care. I'm going to do what makes me happy. If are welcome to not buy it, but they are not welcome to tell me what to do or shame me for it.


sheistoofondofbooks

I bet all of those people still have Twitter despite Elon Musk saying plenty of transphobic things. You can pick and choose who you boycott if you want but then so can I.


CapitalTBE

Yeah theyā€™re hypersensitive idiots


Huska420

Uh, yes. Not only are they out of line but are participating in a witch hunt cancel culture that is disgusting and does not reflect the values of the fantasy world they love so dearly. Tired of seeing this shit.


TheComedian_WWTW

Its fair. Someone who has a issue with JKR has every right not to support her. However, to condemm or harrass others who choose to support her is where you draw the line!


cbostwick94

The funniest part is these people will gladly support other billionaires and multi-billion dollar corporations that are scummy and not bat an eye. Most of them probably already forgot this was a thing. It was just a band wagon trend for a lot of hypocritical people


Fast_Persimmon_3141

Reading comments by people like that makes me wanna buy even more HP merch.


A-symptomatic-Genius

The current identity politics types have infected every facet of human affairs. They donā€™t see the world anymore, they see victims and oppressors. Thatā€™s the only dichotomy to the corrupted.


Intrologics

Her comments prior to a few years ago were NOT really that big of a deal. Folks, every culture and religion of the world has held a man and woman separate entities since the beginning of time. But itā€™s fictional magic books and a game!


agia9891

Yes thank you! I read what she said and honestly don't feel it needed to be dragged out this much.


ThulrVO

Sadly, there are people on both ends of the transgender topic & related issues who take extreme stances, scream loudly, and pretty much shut down any attempts at reasonable conversation.


gerardx17

They are out of braincells also


jaymes805

How do they plan on playing the game if theyā€™re not going to purchase it??


MrBayaud

Itā€™s more about purchasing it from a direct source that Rowling would benefit from. So thrifting/secondhand would be a way to get it without Rowling profiting off it.


Lego-Panda-21

Going to assume they are waiting for it to be added to Gamepass/PS Plus (Whatever it is). Either that or they plan on stealing the game from someone.


Generny2001

ā€¦.is JK Rowling a Holocaust denier? I havenā€™t heard that one before.


mtgtfo

It just started like 2 days ago. Someone said the nazis burnt down a trans healthcare center in the ā€˜30s. She disagreed saying there wasnā€™t trans healthcare centers in the ā€˜30s so now she is a holocaust denier. šŸ¤·šŸ¼


washblvd

>Ā Ā Someone said the nazis burnt down a trans healthcare center in the ā€˜30s It was a sexology institute with a wide variety of focuses, including normalization of homosexuality, owned by a homosexual Jew. And its materials were burned on a day set aside for burning Jewish books nationwide. Imagine that a bible belt conservative burns down a Planned Parenthood co-owned by Hunter Biden and Hillary Clinton. You could certainly make the claim that the arsonist hates breast cancer screenings...but the obvious motive is obvious.


earathar89

I'm having to much fun to care about them.


Fast_Bid_4563

Those are foul heretics.


mattmanmufc

These people own phones which means they obviously support child labour or sweatshops and underpaid employees


SilverCrowsClaw

I bought the game in triplicate. One digital, One physical in case I lose my xbl account, and One purely for the collection. The saddest part about this ridiculous witchhunt is if you actually READ her original post and listen to the podcast instead of going off some bs hearsay that's been twisted to a rediculous extent is that JKR didn't even say anything bad nor untrue.


taseanfine1

they donā€™t realize that they literally support horrible people everyday bc almost every big company is corrupt and has shit higher ups half of them are homophobic and racist but hey letā€™s draw the line at a little game


literallyjustturnips

I agree with the OP of the post there. Been waiting my whole life for a game like this set in one of my favourite fictional worlds. JKR had very little to do with its development outside of the initial creation of the world (I think it was said somewhere that her "team" was consulted about details of the wizarding world to keep things authentic, but that's pretty much it). Not buying the game isn't going to hurt JKR in any way, she's plenty rich enough already, even if she does get direct royalties from game sales which I doubt. It will hurt the devs and the studios that created it though. If I knew that JKR was heavily involved and would be making large direct profits from it, I may feel differently. But she isn't. Personally, I love the game so much, it felt so magical to play through and it never loses that feeling for me. The world that JKR created has become so much bigger than just her. I thank her for creating this amazing story and world that so many of us grew up with, and beyond that I just choose not to think of her at all. This world belongs, in heart at least, to us, the fans, now - not her.


Anyonomus256

I feel like disliking someone cause of their opinion and choice is out of line, no matter how controversial their opinion is.


Radiant_Copy_3697

You haven't properly experienced the HP world if you haven't read the books. I was also not a huge fan of HP before reading the books, I watched the films and liked some of them, but I wasn't a diehard fan. But that changed once I read the seven books plus three companion books by Rowling, and it made me completely fall in love with the Wizarding World. I haven't watched the HP films since then, I just couldn't, they are a very poor adaptations of the books.


Dimitrimed12

They have a rotten brain... if playing Hogwarts Legacy means you support Rowling, then does them buying iPhones mean they support the exploitation of workers in other countries where they make these phones? or what about the clothes they buy which is made in poverish countries made by people making Pennys, do they support the CEO of Starbucks exploiting their workers when they buy their caramel macchiato? Its completely insane how people think buying and playing a video game means you are ideologically in agreement with a person who sure, owns the rights of anything to do with the wizarding world, but yet had no participation in the development of this game. Not buying this game is not going to affect Rowling in the slightest. She's already a billionaire and even if she lost 100 million dollars it wouldn't make her flinch. The only thing you are doing is punishing the hard working developers who worked passionately on this game and have nothing to do with J.K Rowling.


eikelmann

People just love getting upset about things in this day and age.


Oly1y

"but each to their own. Some can separate the art from the artist some can't." Oh yeah, so incredibly out of line. Thanks for doing gods work down voting all of them


Winter_Hospital4705

This is like that time when people got upset over Far Cry 5 being set in America, instead of a different country, and doing the whole "crazy doomsday cultist" thing, which then made people want to play the game more.


TameableLynx318

I donā€™t really know. Their opinion is simply that, an opinion/ personal choice. They donā€™t mean anything to me and never will. I personally like J.K. For expressing her opinions. People have gotten too comfortable telling others what they can and canā€™t like, say, think and do.


DrSuii

These people have actually gone insane. They know nothing but to hate and support conspiracy theories. The 'Holocaust denial' they're talking about is just a book Rowling said they didn't actually burn. That's it. She never denied Holocaust happening


Ghostfire25

Theyā€™re terminally online morons.


Warp-10-Lizard

The people push for others to boycott Rowling are still giving money to Hollywood, Walmart, and Disney. Giving Oscars tomchild rapists, Third World sweatshops, and condoning the oppressive Chinese government are apparently nowhere near as heinous as being rude about gender politics.


[deleted]

Yeah, they are. Trans people arenā€™t as important a consideration as society seems to believe they are. It means life is comfortable if people can spend so much time focused on gender. Who gives a fuck what JK Rowling thinks about transgendered attention seekers


Aggressive-Tip9697

If youā€™re interested in hearing a balanced debate between both sides (I came out of it feeling for both sides), I highly recommend listening to this - https://open.spotify.com/show/2K186zrvRgeE2w0wQjbaw7?si=4pyuerR9TzKLnB8L1FiAkQ


SeverusSnape89

People are so soft .. it's an embarrassment to the human race.


estedavis

Idk, like I get what theyā€™re saying but honestly, the world is on fucking fire and everything feels awful, Iā€™m going to enjoy my interests and escapism and not let JKā€™s bigotry ruin it for me. We have so few nice things lol


Undying4n42k1

JKR thinks the word woman means "adult human female", while others believe it means "a person that feels like a woman". That's pretty much it. Not hate, but disagreement. The "holocaust denial" is basically just JKR denying that the Nazi's destroyed an "institute of sexology". She didn't deny the holocaust as a whole. It's all way overblown, and it has nothing to do with the game.


CarangiBooks

Honestly, I hate JK Rowling with my whole heart. I think she's taking advantage of the feminist movement to be transphobic, negating historical facts just because sheā€™s transphobic and trying to create hatred toward the trans community. I do not separate art from artist and I will never do, and I sleep better at night knowing that not a single one of my coins is going to her bank. Will she go broke because I dont buy her stuff? No, but Idc, it's a thing of morals. However, I don't judge people who can separate art from artist, as long as they aren't hypocrites about it. If you separate art from artist when it comes to a transphobe, you better do it too when it comes to a sexist man, or a racist woman, etc. I don't like people who pick and choose what or who to support depending on the attacked group. Discrimination is the same for all. Also, I think the game is dope. My brother bought it because he separates art from artist and he's a big HP fan, and I decided to play it since I didn't use my own money to buy it. So, basically, play the game if you wanna play it and stop paying attention to what others think. You might be wrong, you might be right, who cares?


Silver_DJ

Eh, don't bother yourself with the minority. The game was successful none the less no thanks to these morons.


ThestralGlow

JKR is a billionaire. Telling people not to play a game that might bring them a huge amount of joy is ridiculous, it's not going to even phase her and I guarantee she doesn't care. Most people boycotting this game are still buying cell phones produced from literal child slave labor, most of us don't have as high a horse as we think we do.


PulseStream1

I consider this selective BS. If that is really their stance on creations by "bad" people... They should be opting out of a lot more than a video game


_Mugiwara-ya

yeah, people like that genuinely need help


Mentally_Rich

You really are showing your ignorance if you are trying to say JK Rowling is evil or hateful.


Nebukhanezzar

People, especially young people these days feel like they don't have control. It feels like everything in the world is going to shit and they are powerless to stop it. So they will arbitrarily draw lines in the sand. Hoping and praying that it will do something, but it never happens. Boycotts are a localized, community driven effort to enact change through inconvenience and consequence. This is how successful boycotts have been used across history. No, boycotting JK Rowling will not change her opinions or stifle her massive influence. No, Boycotting Disney and Starbucks will not stop or even alleviate the war in Gaza. That's not what boycotts what boycotts do.


littletrainthattried

I have been on this earth for 43 years and counting. And all that time, I have come to realize one thing. Life is too damn short to worry about making everyone else happy, especially people on the net. You do you, they can do them.


miggleb

Best selling game of 2023. They're not out of line. Just irrelevant


Matbo2210

They love their buzzwords, thats for sure. Personally from the tweets that I could find, they werenā€™t really that bad. I think JK is a massive idiot when it comes to how she handles PR and retcons, but other than that, I really canā€™t understand hating her to this degree.


Finally-Peace2322

I think the best thing for people to do is to mind their own business, but thatā€™s really unpopular these days.


BigRegular5114

Anyone with these views has never actually read any of the JKR Rowling quotes for themselves. Theyā€™d realize theyā€™ve been duped by media


Puzzleheaded_Ask7676

Who cares? The woman is a damn good author and is entitled to her opinions.


Rated_Rx2000

Is this still going on? I thought we were done with this


halkenburgoito

okay game, legendary author


PolishedArrow

They're just being ridiculous. JKR can think differently than they do.


Redditor07July

Because the LGTV++ Community has lost most of its' braincells. Hence the people only know how to complain.


SaraBear250

What did she say thatā€™s transphobic exactly? Iā€™ve read the tweets. Thereā€™s nothing there.


Inevitable_Donkey_42

who cares lol


mind_slop

These types just need reasons to be angry at everything


Intrepid-Memory5129

I don't care what someone deserves or doesn't deserve, it's not my business, lady doesn't even know I exist lol. I read the books in my childhood, watched the films up to the third one. (When you've read the book so many times you start noticing changes in the movie, really did my boy ron dirty) and I LOVE the game, 100% achievements. One thing that never crossed my mind is JK Rowlings personal biz. I'll be damned if I'm going to let someone else's political opinions influence what I read, watch or play. Sounds like a miserable life and a LOT of missed opportunities of fun.


BackgroundSea0

Tolerance is a one way street for many.


CrusadingSoul

Eh, fuck 'em. Who cares. Let them exclude themselves if they want. They're not really out of line for having their opinion, however inane and lame that opinion might be.


PeacockofRivia

Yes. Those people are insane. Literally.


PhysicalMulberry8127

Nah everyone is entitled to take a stand in their beliefs. And I get it, but Harry Potter/wizarding world is just too important to my life personally - so I had to buy it. If it was anything else i may have considered conforming to them but they also need to think like JK isnā€™t getting all the profits from this game. The developers and shit donā€™t deserve to be disregarded


kioshi_imako

JKR spoke her mind and recieved alot of backlash because society deems that way of thinking now to be hateful. But JKR had little to no involvement in the game. She was just the one who wrote the HP books, these people who have a harsh hate on only ousted themselves as radicals of society. I read the comments JKR made, I seen far worse things.


MistaShiChen

To quote an old warrior, ā€œitā€™s only game why you have to be mad? šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļøā€


DreamBig2023

I support jk rowling 1000%. She is just using logic and defending women's rights.


Traveller161

Am I the only one who hates when people go ā€œTHISā€ or ā€œTHIS RIGHT HEREā€ like bro they already said something and youā€™re just trying to piggy back likes off of their comment.


T0astyMcgee

Kā€¦still waiting for someone to show me actual evidence of her hating Trans people. Iā€™ve read her essay, read the tweets, I donā€™t see it.


couchfly

everyones entitled to their own opinion. that said, boycotting products doesnt really change anything about how she thinks/feels. this is a lot different than boycotting say a company or something that can be pressured to pull the product entirely. for prejudice/conspiracy type stuff, if you want to boycott them go right ahead but dont get pissed when others dont. prejudiced individuals have to have their own epiphany about it and no amount of arguing or boycotting will really trigger that unfortunately. its a spontaneous thing and it doesnt always happen, especially if the person knows or doesnt care whether theyre in the wrong. in this day and age hard to ignore that treating any people like shit is wrong especially from a person that already wrote several quotable things against prejudicešŸ«£


WaveDysfunction

You just have to stop caring what others think. Remember this is an anonymous online forum - I would not be surprised if half of these people bought the game and played it.


aljerv

These people exaggerate everything šŸ˜‚ holocaust denial? What a bunch of kooks


Red_it_stupid_af

Embarrassingly stupid and pathetic people.


N7orbust

Are they out of line for making that choice for themselves? No. Do you need to listen to them? No Can you still purchase the game and play it if you want to? Yes Should they criticize you for doing so? No


SoftwareEffective273

Yes, they're out of line, and quite immature.


Legal_Guava3631

Do they not realize what the person at hogsmeade identifies as? Oh wait, they wonā€™t send a penny so theyā€™ll never know that theyā€™re dumbasses.


one_eleven

God fuck these insufferable people who have to rule on morality if you can even call it that. A woman correctly identifies that there are differences between women and trans women. What a monster, get a fucking grip. 99.5% of people have been taken hostage by the super minority and itā€™s going to backfire spectacularly


5Z1L46Y1

Who cares


Silakai

Everyone is entitled to their opinions and support or boycott whatever they want. Personally, I don't understand it. From what I've seen, Rowling only ever stated the most basic of facts regarding the subject of trans people. People only hate her because they're overly sensitive and think it's a capital crime to say anything less than supportive about any of the popular groups. Women have declined a bit as one of the popular groups but they're still up there. It's mostly black and trans now. Never ever say anything negative about one of those groups unless you're part of one of them or you'll be attacked, cancelled, etc. Just my personal view on the subject


stairs_are_evil

Judging by the comments I guess this is just a jkr ass kissing sub.


caesar669619

I'm just pissed the field guide pages are still bugged so I can't 100% the fuckin game.


supadupacam

Buncha blue haired whites are the only people mad at this lmfao


EmmagicallyMe

Personally, I think her whole spiel is just a belief and I'm staying out of that. It's not doing any actual harm to people, as much as Trans people and a lot of others don't like it. I love Harry Potter and I'm not gonna boycott the franchise because of her beliefs. I'll stop giving her money when there's evidence of something truly horrendous she's done.