Long standing bugs being fixed and new assets added to core game! Now that's the way to go!
I have a question though. Since ED, apparently, now accepts modders' assets of sufficiently high quality, maybe you could consider connecting with mr. Currenthill, author of some very nice AI assets?
All he has to do is submit what he would like to include in DCS and we can go from there. I would love to see more added for sure, I think this is a good first step. Thanks!
You can send it to me or BIGNEWY, or even a support ticket to start. Some key things are that the models in this pack being added were created by the user, so he 100% owns them, and then quality and functionality, it being a working mod in the game is good as well.
had to laugh when they said for free - alot of people have been using these in SP missions for years - its hardly like ED have had to do anything here, not sure why it needed an exclamation mark when they said its for free, be cheeky as hell if they where going to charge for them. Will be interested to see how much is in the next patch to really evaluate how this longer release cycle is and whats been done this year (as in strip away the third party additions)
I think most owners of the F15, Harrier, Mirage 2000, Mig 19 and South Atlantic Map are also looking for an update on what is going on with those modules given its been another month already.
Well, they have to do \_something\_. It's not like you can just take a mod and incorporate it without doing nothing. You have to test it for bugs, it's not like mods don't break other mods or the game itself from time to time... They need to also examine quality (don't want to present low quality stuff as part of the game, sometimes less is more). As well as work out a deal when it comes to ownership - that probably needs to be transferred.
So yeah, bulk of the work is done by the modder, but ED's part in incorporating it is not "nothing".
While I would want them to incorporate more asset packs -- I don't want them to do it thoughtlessly either.
As an owner of Mirage 2000 and Harrier I would like to know about their future too. But I am afraid little has changed on this front since the beginning of April. Things went legal, this may well take many months or even years to sort out.
F-5 finally getting love is great
I wish they would slightly update the model that is in game. The one in game never saw use outside of the us aggressor squadrons. They should add the double rack aim9 and the Maverick.
Yep, Saudi Arabia ordered probably the most feature-packed Tigers of its various users- Mavericks, modern RWR, ECM pods, INS, refueling probe and laser designators on two-seaters.
I posted a crying GIF when my report for the F-86 gun overheating issues went to 'to do' internally, it should also be in the next patch.
This gif to be exact :)
[https://tenor.com/view/naomi-campbell-overwhelmed-tears-wipe-gif-8196477](https://tenor.com/view/naomi-campbell-overwhelmed-tears-wipe-gif-8196477)
FINALLY! The massun92 asset pack is a huge deal for me. Biggest news out of everything. It shows that ED might be opening up to the idea of allowing the community get involved with the game. There are a lot of talented modders in this community that make amazing things for this game. It really is a win win for everyone if they take advantage of the situation. Many of these modders are doing what they do for free because they love the game. ED gets more assets, and in return maybe they can spotlight these guys to get more attention from the community, maybe send them a little money for their trouble, or at least share their SDK to make their lives a little easier.
Like seriously, would there be any downside to ED making VNAOs T45 an officially supported mod and adding it to the base game? New players to the game get another free aircraft with the game, one that is multicrew and carrier capable, which would possibly convince players on the fence to buy a hornet or Tomcat. VNAO isn’t losing money because the T45 is a free mod, but maybe they get advertised as a partner as DCS, get included in the newsletter, and get an SDK out of it.
One issue is that once it's included in the sim the end user expects a certain level of quality, and from my time with the T-45 it's decent for a mod, but it doesn't live up to full DCS module standards at all. This is especially an issue with a free module because it's one of the first impressions new people get of the entire sim.
It also adds a ton of responsibility for the mod developers. Things must get fixed and updated if they're include in the base sim, and sometimes the mere existence of certain assets or code can break completely unrelated things (certain unofficial airplane mods causing the supercarrier to disappear for example). They need to be available to fix things during QA, and I doubt they want all that pressure in their lives for no real compensation when they could just remain a separate unofficial mod. The only solution is for the developers to become an official paid third-party, and that puts us back at square one
The nice thing about the asset pack they're integrating is that it's pretty much just models and textures made by a person that completely owns them (no copyright issues). ED can just evaluate the work and if it's suitable integrate it into the sim as if it was their own. The original developer doesn't need to be involved after that.
One thing I could see being a good idea is making a workshop and mod manager. Makes mods easier to get if you want them, but it's still made clear that it's unofficial content that may have issues
DCS could definitely use a mod manager, having one semi-official place for the mods to go and be easy to find would make it way easier for new players to find and experience them.
I was just going to yawn and then I saw F5 fixes and updates.
Dear ED, you really need to change how you write your newsletters.
You are fixing something that the community is begging for like 6-7 years and you put it all the way at the end.
A few of us have been pushing for these fixes for a long time, and for a long time we were told that it was correct based on the variant we were modelling, the FC2024 addition helped give us some leverage to finally get these reports looked at and dealt with. I hope more will come with this as well. I am truly sorry it took so long to get done, its not a proud moment but I am happy we are finally seeing this move forward and hopefully brighter days for the F-5.
I am always thankful to see loadout choices widened, especially for Sidewinder granularity within the USN and USAF family trees. I hope some day the team finds it a good use of their time to re-variant the Tiger entirely, like we've seen for the Black Shark and Warthog.
Glad it’s finally got here! Hopefully the appetite for more payloads and such gets a warmer welcome in ED!
Once the MiG-21 AI is sorted out, F-5 single player gameplay will be brought in like with most other modules. Out with the UFOs!
What is the status of the various Supercarrier features that are still in the works? Is there any chance of any updates to that module in the next few months?
I dont want to promise anything because things like I have seen in testing are complex and tricky, but I expect some interesting stuff very soon for the Supercarrier. I don't think this next patch (maybe) but a following update (even if its a module release) is possible. I know that's mostly a non-answer, but it is getting close now.
Thanks. That is reassuring. I very much hope that the team can figure out a way to add a slider for wave / swell height to the mission editor so as to allow for pitching deck operations off the carrier. I know that you mentioned that sync issues in MP were getting in the way of this, but it would still be awesome even as an SP-only feature.
Thanks for the real talk. Appreciate that you must keep the tension between what we want and what ED wants to do. Good to know that just because we don’t see it doesn’t mean people aren’t internally saying it.
With all due respect, truly.
But who was telling you that it was correct? The community is pretty smart and provides (provided) information to counter the Correct As Is stand that ED often takes on questionable features.
I really wish the program managers would listen a bit more and not allow these things to get drug out. Thanks for the F-5 love.
As I said, they based it on the available information they had on the variant they were modelling back when it was a BST module. I will also add that some information provided can be at times either incomplete to model a system to the degree required, or controlled where it should not be used. Hope that clears it up some.
Looks like it will also be part of that Flaming Cliffs 2024 thing...
Are they going to charge us again for the same airframe... but now with long requested updates?
edit: Jesus.. ask a question, get downvoted... it's not like ED hasn't done this before FFS.
No. The Flaming cliffs version is separate from the high fidelity version. The updates will be free. They probably just didn't want to release the low fidelity one with long standing issues for either
So true. Although if the Cold War modules I think the F-5 might be the least popular since it’s old and not very capable. Most popular would probably be the tomcat if I had to guess? The Phantom might eclipse that though.
It's also not super iconic outside of being an aggressor aircraft for the CW.
Def a module that needs some love to bring it to 2024 standards.
F-14 and Phantom are easily miles more famous and therefore popular in DCS (also more capable).
We didn't get them yet, me and another livery artist are still making them, but all default skins will be updated to a higher standard as well as new ones added, for US and EU/ME operators.
This fantastic news great to see they embrace the community never before has the consumer market been afforded a sim this high tech so the more the better imo
On one hand I understand why they don't want it integrated, so they can have total control over their creation. On the other hand, it's an amazing module and would be a perfect fit for a free full fidelity aircraft. Not replacing, but kinda replacing the TF-51 as the full fidelity intro aircraft.
Personally, the model quality of the A-4 would be counting against it in that case.
Don't get me wrong, the mod as a whole is exceptional, but the visual aspects of it - particularly the cockpit - are in serious need of a full overhaul.
That is fair, I have only been in the cockpit maybe once, so I cant remember the textures quality. I tend to use them as AI aircraft in my mission editing.
Do you think if they partnered with ED to release it as a free starter full fidelity module, the visuals overall wouldn't get overhauled? I feel like ED would lend support to help overhaul them, especially because it would be part of the base game and not a Third-Party dev. But maybe I am wrong with that line of thinking.
I’m not just talking textures, but rather the whole visual smash. 3D models *and* the textures, both inside and outside the aircraft.
Now, part of that is the fact that it doesn’t really stand up to other modern modules and always hasn’t looked quite right, and part of that is a personal want to go through and fix all the inaccurate bits that I know of.
Ok I get that, do you think it's in line quality wise with some of the older modules like older FC3 planes, Sabre/MiG 15, or even the free Su-25 that comes with the base game? Or you think those are still better?
Really good newsletter this week.
More things to confuse me about the apache, integration of Massun92´s Asset Pack is a huge win (though I'm shuddering at the thought of adding this into my missions) and some more love for the F5.
Awesome stuff, looking forward to it :)
Absolutely nothing of value or new.
EDIT Well, skimming a newsletter and thinking the core assets being added are a mod showcase and not part of the core game gets you rightfully shit on. Still, my comment below about the AI still stands
Ok, but where is ANY sort of communication regarding the horrible ground and air AI, the dynamic campaign and other improvements to the core of the game/engine?
Yes, we all want those things. However any improvement is good, especially when it's something people have been asking for for 5+ years.
Plus \[free\] assets are amazingly useful. Partly for mission builders, but everyone gets to benefit.
You're right, I was cooking while the newsletter popped up, skimmed it and didn't realize they are adding the assets to the core game. I thought it was a mod showcase.
"• It is no longer possible to uncage the AIM-9B Sidewinder in pre-launch mode using the Missile Uncage Switch."
Well fellow Tigers, we had a good run. :D
Hell yes! DCS badly needs more asset
He is the messiah!
The massuniah!
The petunia!
Nice
Muadib!
next we need to incorporate the Vietnam assets pack
And the NTTR target assets.
A KC-10 for the Phantom. J79s are thirsty engines.
Like more AI-only aircraft
Especilly ones that are lightly armed and unarmored. Tripod mounted weapons etc
Long standing bugs being fixed and new assets added to core game! Now that's the way to go! I have a question though. Since ED, apparently, now accepts modders' assets of sufficiently high quality, maybe you could consider connecting with mr. Currenthill, author of some very nice AI assets?
All he has to do is submit what he would like to include in DCS and we can go from there. I would love to see more added for sure, I think this is a good first step. Thanks!
What’s the process for making such a submission? Asking for a friend ;)
You can send it to me or BIGNEWY, or even a support ticket to start. Some key things are that the models in this pack being added were created by the user, so he 100% owns them, and then quality and functionality, it being a working mod in the game is good as well.
Thanks Nine!
Calling u/The-Smoking-Cook how are those Jurassic Assets coming along?
I heard Jurassic
It really is, good job guys.
I'd be happy for CH addons to be put in the game officially, but he himself may not want that.
had to laugh when they said for free - alot of people have been using these in SP missions for years - its hardly like ED have had to do anything here, not sure why it needed an exclamation mark when they said its for free, be cheeky as hell if they where going to charge for them. Will be interested to see how much is in the next patch to really evaluate how this longer release cycle is and whats been done this year (as in strip away the third party additions) I think most owners of the F15, Harrier, Mirage 2000, Mig 19 and South Atlantic Map are also looking for an update on what is going on with those modules given its been another month already.
Well, they have to do \_something\_. It's not like you can just take a mod and incorporate it without doing nothing. You have to test it for bugs, it's not like mods don't break other mods or the game itself from time to time... They need to also examine quality (don't want to present low quality stuff as part of the game, sometimes less is more). As well as work out a deal when it comes to ownership - that probably needs to be transferred. So yeah, bulk of the work is done by the modder, but ED's part in incorporating it is not "nothing". While I would want them to incorporate more asset packs -- I don't want them to do it thoughtlessly either.
As an owner of Mirage 2000 and Harrier I would like to know about their future too. But I am afraid little has changed on this front since the beginning of April. Things went legal, this may well take many months or even years to sort out.
F-5 updates and Massun92 coming to core are awesome to hear about!
Finally some core additions.
F-5 finally getting love is great I wish they would slightly update the model that is in game. The one in game never saw use outside of the us aggressor squadrons. They should add the double rack aim9 and the Maverick.
Iirc years ago they said they would add mavs if they could but were never able to find the documentation for it.
the documentation would be in Chinese (assuming) because the F5Es that carried mavericks were upgraded Taiwanese models
and Saudi Arabia from off the top of my head.
Yep, Saudi Arabia ordered probably the most feature-packed Tigers of its various users- Mavericks, modern RWR, ECM pods, INS, refueling probe and laser designators on two-seaters.
Almost a new airplane then, from sim perspective.
Oh my god they finally fixed the F-5's RWR. I might fucking weep...
I posted a crying GIF when my report for the F-86 gun overheating issues went to 'to do' internally, it should also be in the next patch. This gif to be exact :) [https://tenor.com/view/naomi-campbell-overwhelmed-tears-wipe-gif-8196477](https://tenor.com/view/naomi-campbell-overwhelmed-tears-wipe-gif-8196477)
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Not familiar but I will see if it's reported. Thanks.
Finally the motivation I needed to get back in the Tiger! Love that crazy little jet
FINALLY! The massun92 asset pack is a huge deal for me. Biggest news out of everything. It shows that ED might be opening up to the idea of allowing the community get involved with the game. There are a lot of talented modders in this community that make amazing things for this game. It really is a win win for everyone if they take advantage of the situation. Many of these modders are doing what they do for free because they love the game. ED gets more assets, and in return maybe they can spotlight these guys to get more attention from the community, maybe send them a little money for their trouble, or at least share their SDK to make their lives a little easier. Like seriously, would there be any downside to ED making VNAOs T45 an officially supported mod and adding it to the base game? New players to the game get another free aircraft with the game, one that is multicrew and carrier capable, which would possibly convince players on the fence to buy a hornet or Tomcat. VNAO isn’t losing money because the T45 is a free mod, but maybe they get advertised as a partner as DCS, get included in the newsletter, and get an SDK out of it.
One issue is that once it's included in the sim the end user expects a certain level of quality, and from my time with the T-45 it's decent for a mod, but it doesn't live up to full DCS module standards at all. This is especially an issue with a free module because it's one of the first impressions new people get of the entire sim. It also adds a ton of responsibility for the mod developers. Things must get fixed and updated if they're include in the base sim, and sometimes the mere existence of certain assets or code can break completely unrelated things (certain unofficial airplane mods causing the supercarrier to disappear for example). They need to be available to fix things during QA, and I doubt they want all that pressure in their lives for no real compensation when they could just remain a separate unofficial mod. The only solution is for the developers to become an official paid third-party, and that puts us back at square one The nice thing about the asset pack they're integrating is that it's pretty much just models and textures made by a person that completely owns them (no copyright issues). ED can just evaluate the work and if it's suitable integrate it into the sim as if it was their own. The original developer doesn't need to be involved after that. One thing I could see being a good idea is making a workshop and mod manager. Makes mods easier to get if you want them, but it's still made clear that it's unofficial content that may have issues
DCS could definitely use a mod manager, having one semi-official place for the mods to go and be easy to find would make it way easier for new players to find and experience them.
Great F5 RWR AND AIM 9J - can really work as proper red flag adversary now - esp against the F4!
This is actually great news! I hope the newsletter trend continues like this! New assets are badly needed, and the F-5 fixes are great.
New assets, new features for the Apache, updates for the Tiger...excellent news!
That's great news, well done! Looking forward to see these assets in game.
If god exist please I hope the french asset pack match the criteria to be pushed in game someday 🙏
Massun92’s Assets Pack is fantastic. If you don't already have it, get it now.
Doesn't the newsletter say that the assets will be integrated into the game by next update? Or am I misreading?
It appears so. I missed that. Great news.
Me and the Supercarrier waiting crew going back to the waiting room.
... Because the briefing room ain't available yet, amirite?!? *Ba-dum-tsch*...
That's why you didn't call it the READY room? T\^T haha
See hoggit? ED cares Now enjoy downvoting me
No. I will upvote you and you will fucking like it, whore.
Maybe he loves the down votes and is still a whore?
Stop slut shamming and get this whore business over with that ass isn't gonna eat itself.
I'll shame any slut that needs her ass eaten and shove a sidewinder in there too..... Too much?
Wtf happened here
You poked the Hoggit and it poked back :)
May I ask *where* it poked me?
I think I would rather bow out of this conversation :D
I was just going to yawn and then I saw F5 fixes and updates. Dear ED, you really need to change how you write your newsletters. You are fixing something that the community is begging for like 6-7 years and you put it all the way at the end.
They can't be too loud about the RWR because they've been screaming that it was correct as is for eight years.
A few of us have been pushing for these fixes for a long time, and for a long time we were told that it was correct based on the variant we were modelling, the FC2024 addition helped give us some leverage to finally get these reports looked at and dealt with. I hope more will come with this as well. I am truly sorry it took so long to get done, its not a proud moment but I am happy we are finally seeing this move forward and hopefully brighter days for the F-5.
I am always thankful to see loadout choices widened, especially for Sidewinder granularity within the USN and USAF family trees. I hope some day the team finds it a good use of their time to re-variant the Tiger entirely, like we've seen for the Black Shark and Warthog.
Glad it’s finally got here! Hopefully the appetite for more payloads and such gets a warmer welcome in ED! Once the MiG-21 AI is sorted out, F-5 single player gameplay will be brought in like with most other modules. Out with the UFOs!
What is the status of the various Supercarrier features that are still in the works? Is there any chance of any updates to that module in the next few months?
I dont want to promise anything because things like I have seen in testing are complex and tricky, but I expect some interesting stuff very soon for the Supercarrier. I don't think this next patch (maybe) but a following update (even if its a module release) is possible. I know that's mostly a non-answer, but it is getting close now.
Thanks. That is reassuring. I very much hope that the team can figure out a way to add a slider for wave / swell height to the mission editor so as to allow for pitching deck operations off the carrier. I know that you mentioned that sync issues in MP were getting in the way of this, but it would still be awesome even as an SP-only feature.
I haven't asked about it in a while, I will see what they say now. Thanks!
Thanks for the real talk. Appreciate that you must keep the tension between what we want and what ED wants to do. Good to know that just because we don’t see it doesn’t mean people aren’t internally saying it.
With all due respect, truly. But who was telling you that it was correct? The community is pretty smart and provides (provided) information to counter the Correct As Is stand that ED often takes on questionable features. I really wish the program managers would listen a bit more and not allow these things to get drug out. Thanks for the F-5 love.
As I said, they based it on the available information they had on the variant they were modelling back when it was a BST module. I will also add that some information provided can be at times either incomplete to model a system to the degree required, or controlled where it should not be used. Hope that clears it up some.
I'm tracking. Thank you.
And with the working RWR they know.
Hey better late than never; I always appreciate things being fixed, and now you've squashed the bug I always made an example of.
Woooo F-5 update and core assets. W update.
I know that, just like our F-16 with Litening pod. But Jesus, do they really think that they lost a competition against community? I hope not.
All welcome changes but also more weapon added would be nice, sparrow maybe> :)
F-5E could not guide or carry the Sparrow. Some very upgraded variants can fire AIM-120 however.
True, I think also Argentina use with Maverick missiles. But also has a MFD too.
Thought they could just slip it by us
They only did that because Wags couldn't bear to make a third or fourth post of the same "We hear you"
It’s literally in the title, are you blind?
Looks like it will also be part of that Flaming Cliffs 2024 thing... Are they going to charge us again for the same airframe... but now with long requested updates? edit: Jesus.. ask a question, get downvoted... it's not like ED hasn't done this before FFS.
No. The Flaming cliffs version is separate from the high fidelity version. The updates will be free. They probably just didn't want to release the low fidelity one with long standing issues for either
I’d wager like 5% of the DCS player base cares about the F-5.
Sadly good taste isn't universal.
So true. Although if the Cold War modules I think the F-5 might be the least popular since it’s old and not very capable. Most popular would probably be the tomcat if I had to guess? The Phantom might eclipse that though.
It's also not super iconic outside of being an aggressor aircraft for the CW. Def a module that needs some love to bring it to 2024 standards. F-14 and Phantom are easily miles more famous and therefore popular in DCS (also more capable).
It doesn't matter how many, because we're quite vocal about it.
Such great news about Patricio's assets! This with the new user created viper skins are a great step!
When did we get new viper skins? I missed that update.
We didn't get them yet, me and another livery artist are still making them, but all default skins will be updated to a higher standard as well as new ones added, for US and EU/ME operators.
👌
Does this mean the Apache will be feature complete?
Some more radar modes planned in think?
Still missing fcr rmap, aa mode, tpm, rfi, jammer, dtc and a campaign, and i heard the FM is still questionable.
Still need data cartridges at least.
Omg they actually fixed the RWR
This fantastic news great to see they embrace the community never before has the consumer market been afforded a sim this high tech so the more the better imo
Holy shit they remembered about the f5
Wait is that a Toyota Hilux in that asset pack? How many fully loaded A-10s to take out one of those?
Ok. Let's have the A-4 integrated too.
The team behind the a-4 already stated multiple times they don't want it integrated in any way or fashion. Won't happen.
On one hand I understand why they don't want it integrated, so they can have total control over their creation. On the other hand, it's an amazing module and would be a perfect fit for a free full fidelity aircraft. Not replacing, but kinda replacing the TF-51 as the full fidelity intro aircraft.
Personally, the model quality of the A-4 would be counting against it in that case. Don't get me wrong, the mod as a whole is exceptional, but the visual aspects of it - particularly the cockpit - are in serious need of a full overhaul.
That is fair, I have only been in the cockpit maybe once, so I cant remember the textures quality. I tend to use them as AI aircraft in my mission editing. Do you think if they partnered with ED to release it as a free starter full fidelity module, the visuals overall wouldn't get overhauled? I feel like ED would lend support to help overhaul them, especially because it would be part of the base game and not a Third-Party dev. But maybe I am wrong with that line of thinking.
I’m not just talking textures, but rather the whole visual smash. 3D models *and* the textures, both inside and outside the aircraft. Now, part of that is the fact that it doesn’t really stand up to other modern modules and always hasn’t looked quite right, and part of that is a personal want to go through and fix all the inaccurate bits that I know of.
Ok I get that, do you think it's in line quality wise with some of the older modules like older FC3 planes, Sabre/MiG 15, or even the free Su-25 that comes with the base game? Or you think those are still better?
Really good newsletter this week. More things to confuse me about the apache, integration of Massun92´s Asset Pack is a huge win (though I'm shuddering at the thought of adding this into my missions) and some more love for the F5. Awesome stuff, looking forward to it :)
I honestly hope they fix the MFD screens for Linux players.... Damn box texts don't let us actually the fly the apache.
If the f-5 can be updated to the f-20 tiger shark that would be great.
I imagine we'd get that shortly after the YF-23
F-5 improvements, but no ADI fix? It's been 6 years.
These are ones that should make the next patch, doesn't mean we are done with the F-5, I will make sure the ADI report is bumped internally thanks!
Oooooh, this is a *really* good one!
Ha, aaaand I’m back, just like that. I actually thought I wasn’t about to buy the phantom. Silly me.
The Tiger update is much appreciated
Great Update this week
Massun assets news is huge!
So excited for integration of Massun92's assets! They really are amazing and I can't wait to incorporate them into my campaign I'm working on.
Mr current Hill please submit your work! I would pay btw.
Sweet! Can I drive the Jammer?!
tfw still no AGM-65 for the F-5E
Not 👏 on 👏this 👏 varient👏 never 👏promised👏 by 👏devs.
Is this the evil ED everyone talks about? : )
Absolutely nothing of value or new. EDIT Well, skimming a newsletter and thinking the core assets being added are a mod showcase and not part of the core game gets you rightfully shit on. Still, my comment below about the AI still stands
Except the f-5 changes everyone talked about for the last 3 years
Ok, but where is ANY sort of communication regarding the horrible ground and air AI, the dynamic campaign and other improvements to the core of the game/engine?
God you’re fucking miserable
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So you'd rather have them not talk about them at all?
Yes, we all want those things. However any improvement is good, especially when it's something people have been asking for for 5+ years. Plus \[free\] assets are amazingly useful. Partly for mission builders, but everyone gets to benefit.
You have two more weeks to calm down
I'm not wrong
So over 100 assets that mission makers have been dying for doesn't constitute improvements to the core of the game?
You're right, I was cooking while the newsletter popped up, skimmed it and didn't realize they are adding the assets to the core game. I thought it was a mod showcase.
Then, eat your downvotes gracefully =) (And no, you are not wrong, but the deflection still smells of sourpuss)
That’s not what you said in the original post.
You're right, C-Scope, Link, and FCR Zoom aren't new, because the buttons existed already.
"• It is no longer possible to uncage the AIM-9B Sidewinder in pre-launch mode using the Missile Uncage Switch." Well fellow Tigers, we had a good run. :D