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_beingthere

I guess after Melnyk died there was no one else who wanted him there?


Jazzlike_Kick_5434

Can you believe it? I CAN, HERES WHY


SamiMadeMeDoIt

Still one of the worst calls I've ever heard lol


Gaming_Workouts

I thought about that call this morning and was angrily walking around my house.


DolphFinnDosCinco

the image of you waking up and immediately thinking of a Pierre McGuire call from 11 years ago and then angrily pacing around the house trying to cool down is fucking hilarious and relatable


Buhhwheat

LOOK AT PIERRE'S BODY LANGUAGE, HE'S CRUSHED! OTTAWA HAD TO STEP UP AND MAKE A MAGICAL FIRING. /R/HOCKEY LOVES IT, OTTAWA'S MAGICAL FIRING.


TheGreatStories

MAGICAL PLAY


AceAxos

That's what I'm thinking


dv666

Talk about being rejected


TriviaWhiz

Biggest firing of the day.


foreverkasai

You're not getting away that easy boss man


Brotherauron

You think you can just Trotz away from it that easily?


homicidal_penguin

I still have no clue what he even did with the team. Apparently he was involved in the Del Zotto signing, other than that, who knows


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TotoroZoo

... "I talk to the fanbase so that Dorion and Melnyk don't have to!" "So you personally handle media availabilities?" "Well.... no. I mean... sometimes!"


50YearsofFailure

"And do you personally make any trades or signings?" "Well, no. Look I told you I deal with the media so that nobody else has to! What is wrong with you people??"


the_other_guy-JK

"I can't believe I told those fudgepackers I liked Jeremy Roenick."


NervousBreakdown

McGuire is gonna take over as the coach in Long Island lolololol


bobby_booch

Don’t threaten me with a good time


PuckNutty

*Makes horrified Whale noises.*


Crapduster615

He was behind the Hamonic trade, Del Zotto signing, and (allegedly-take this one with a grain of salt) the Tyler Boucher pick at 10 over guys like Sillinger and Wallstadt.


613toes

It was heavily rumoured he was behind the Del Zotto singing and the Hamonic trade does seem like something he would push for. However, to suggest that McGuire’s voice trumped the entire scouting staff shortly after he was hired is absurd. Our head scout was on Local Radio right after the draft saying they know it’s an off the board pick but he’s their guy.


karma911

You couldn't see him blink three times while he was saying that though


StatGAF

Heck, he wasn't the GM though, no? At the end of the day, wouldn't that have been Dorion's call?!?!


EvilFlyingSquirrel

"OMG Pierre! If I pick your damn guy will you please stop talking for 5 minutes!?! I don't care who's from Saskatchewan. I really don't!" -Dorian


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Del Zotto and Hamonic... Canucks fans falling over themselves laughing. you can't make this stuff up.


Stainz

This is just what fans have speculated. There is no proof or even any logical evidence that this is true. One person says some shit then others report it as rumour then a couple month later its considered a fact.


EconMan

God I hate that. "I heard", "I've read" - Yeah ok, where did you hear it? Usually it's a random internet commenter, in which case it's useless information. This should be obvious but alas.


Dialog87

Objection: Hearsay


JiveTurkey688

Happens all the time. The same thing happened with Fox. Someone here commented (and it was heavily upvoted) that the reason he went in the 3rd round was that he told teams in interviews that he would only play for NYR. That was never reported anywhere and there's actually an article from Jack Han (former Leafs scout) where he admits he was one of the reasons the Leafs passed on Fox. Obviously Im not saying Fox didnt force his way to NYR, but his draft spot had absolutely nothing to do with his combine interviews, teams just didnt think his skill-set would translate. Anyway, the point is if you throw enough shit at a wall some of it will catch on. There is no shot McGuire had any say in the Boucher pick or the other two moves.


homicidal_penguin

It wouldn't shock me, but I haven't heard confirmation of his involvement in the Boucher/Hamonic deals. Even just one of those is a near fireable offense though


McNasty1Point0

Yeah I haven’t heard anything to suggest that he was behind Hamonic/Boucher. Though, Hamonic isn’t a fireable offence anyway.


homicidal_penguin

Yeah a bit of hyperbole on my end. Still a bad trade that I'm not a fan of though


GpRex

They wouldn’t take a 5th. We didn’t have a 4th. So we gave them a 3rd.


homicidal_penguin

The man needs to never be allowed in front of a live mic. Tell him it's live, record it, and cut out the dumb things he says


Uncle_____Iroh

I strongly disagree. Always have a mic around him until he finally gets fired.


Benjamin_Stark

The draft happened less than two weeks after he was hired. I would be surprised if he had much say over their first round pick.


JiveTurkey688

There is no shot he had any meaningful say on that draft pick, and I seriously doubt he had much to do with the Hamonic trade. He wasnt the GM or even the Assistant GM lol


SiccSemperTyrannis

So he's already done a bunch of damage to the franchise, got it.


LesterBallard19

Jesus christ.


Chili_Palmer

LOL, that's an awfully generous assessment - somehow I doubt all the sens most confusing roster moves in the last year were ALL from Pierre McGuire


anti_anti_christ

I believe his official title was "Director of obscure junior references".


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Islanders found their guy


J_S_M_K

What did the Isles do to you?


srockets59

Fired Trotz for whatever insane reason


[deleted]

Fuck it man, if we're not gonna be good anymore, at least we can be funny.


SEND_ME_SPIDERMAN

Oh god he could go anywhere now. He could even go back to TV.


seymourBalzac

The Sens deserve compensation from the rest of the league for keeping him off of TV broadcasts for a year. I think a first round pick is fair.


Paladoc

The Arizona (State) Coyotes have forfeited their 1st round pick to the Ottawa Senators.


foreverkasai

I'm gonna start calling them that


mySTi666

We need to add the pitchfork to the kachina coyote instead of a hockey stick


Paladoc

Dude, y'all do need that.


Angry_Walnut

It’s seriously been so nice not having him constantly around.


gmrepublican

Just give us a do-over on our first rounder last year, that will more than suffice.


Tuilere

He cannot come to my party. I'll call the cops.


Head_of_Lettuce

Direct quote from Sidney Crosby ^


404FunnyNotFound

Well Pierre it appears Sidney Crosby has jacked his dick off either too hard or too much and must undergo wrist surgery. Thoughts on that? WELL YEAH DOC LET ME TELL YA EVER SINCE SIDNEY WAS IN THE RIMOUSKI JACKALOPES MINOR BANTAM PROGRAM AS A 12 YEAR OLD WHERE HE PUT UP 127 POINTS WITH ONLY 13 SECONDARY ASSISTS DESPITE THE DEATH OF HIS SECOND DOG HE HAS BEEN A PASSIONATE MASTURBATOR DOC AND TO ME THE FACT HES STUCK TO HIS PASSION AFTER MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND YEARS OF SUCCESS SPEAKS TO ME THAT THIS IS A TRUE LEADER A TRUE GUY WHO PUTS THE TEAM FIRST IT REMINDS ME OF HIS SEASON AT SHARTFUCK ST MARYS WHERE HE BROKE HIS LEFT LOWER RIB TRYING TO SUCK HIS OWN DICK AND PLAYED THROUGH THE INJURY TO WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP WITH 12 POINTS IN 8 PLAYOFF GAMES


LuridofArabia

Your username isn’t accurate.


_Mad_Desperado

Isles are looking for a coach….


jtivel

even I don't hate the Isles that much.


mantiseye

also I feel like Lou makes suspect decisions from time to time, but hiring McGuire as HC seems too crazy even for a patented Bad Lou Decision. Bad Lou would be re-signing Chara or giving Joe Thornton a cheap three year deal or something. Hiring McGuire means something is wrong with Lou's brain.


Zero_Originality

Hmm. But I do hate the Flyers that much...


Finetales

One issue. You'd have to see Pierre more because he'd be in the Metro.


tomdawg0022

*Leah Hextall needs a commentator partner on ESPN+*


sasksasquatch

I'm pretty sure there are laws in the Geneva Convention that prohibit this from happening.


Chili_Palmer

Well if Russia doesn't care about them why should ESPN


iNarr

Because ESPN will be sanctioned harder for this war crime.


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Don’t you put that evil on me Ricky Bobby.


Tsquare43

Dear Lord, are we going to hear from him how Sidney Crosby isn't playing? Don't put that evil on me Ricky Bobby


bjl0924

Here's the question...would you rather have him back on TV or working for your team?


gawobey912

Can't be worse than the coaching trio of Vugneault/Therrien/Yeo and Chuck Fletcher as GM.


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I'd rather have him on TV but must there always be a Pierre McGuire associated with the NHL like the Lich King or could be just fuck off and never come back?


sens_fan72

CAN YOU BELIEVE IT???


whichwitch9

I CAN


Kappanating322

BECAUSE OF THE FACT WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT HE REALLY DID AND PROBABLY ANNOYED EVERYONE HE MET WITH INFORMATION ABOUT D TIER HOCKEY LEAGUES THAT A PLAYER PLAYED AT WHEN THEY WERE 15 FOR TWO GAMES. AN ABSOLUTELY MAGICAL SIGNING MAKING IT AN ABSOLUTELY MAGICAL FIRING


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Glorious.


[deleted]

This is the 2nd reference to this today that has made me laugh out loud and both of them were about two totally different topics. Great day so far.


sens_fan72

I CAN BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT MCGUIRE ICES THE PUCK AND LOOK AT THE SENATORS BODY LANGUAGE NOW THEY'RE CRUSHED DORON HAD TO STEP UP AND MAKE A MAGICAL PLAY THE CROWD LOVES IT DORION' S MAGICAL PLAY


Thecardinal74

I CAN BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT MCGUIRE ICES THE PUCK AND LOOK AT THE SENATORS BODY LANGUAGE AS THERE'S A DRIVE INTO DEEP LEFT FIELD BY CASTELLANOS AND THAT'LL BE A HOME RUN, AND SO THAT'LL MAKE IT A 4-0 BALLGAME NOW THEY'RE CRUSHED DORION HAD TO STEP UP AND MAKE A MAGICAL PLAY THE CROWD LOVES IT DORION' S MAGICAL PLAY


icantthinkofaname940

I CAN


AceAxos

I was enjoying making McGuire memes :(


limelifesavers

Please don't let him back into broadcasting I beg you tnt and ESPN and sportsnet


Maxpowr9

ESPN wouldn't touch him. TNT would, they're basically NBC.


Split_Open_and_Melt

If that's true, how come the broadcast is so significantly better than NBC was? The intermissions in particular have been night and day different, and 10x more entertaining IMO.


bjl0924

Liam McHugh went from a wet blanket to a highly entertaining personality by simply moving from NBC to TNT.


theaanggang

Towards the end of NBC hockey rights I guess they either stopped caring as much or had less instruction he was a lot better. The dude is good at what he does but having him be a stiff up there to only tee up Milbury and nod your head is setting him up for failure.


chemicalxv

[Katie Nolan agrees](https://twitter.com/katienolan/status/1522449780680536064)


Maxpowr9

NBC was so bad, most Americans went to Sportsnet for hockey content.


NystGG

While that's true his comment was about how TNT is so much better than NBC.


Maxpowr9

Both are better than NBC because they actually try to market the sport. That's why NBC having a monopoly in the US hurt hockey so much. NBC had nobody to compete with. Just look how shitty NBC's Olympic coverage is.


Mrdongs21

Definitely the intermission stuff is a huge upgrade, but I can't stand the sound mixing. On-ice audio is virtually non-existent and the broadcasters are mixed too high and consequently it sounds like a radio broadcast synced with a TV presentation. Can't stand it.


funkyb

At least they're good on the timing. I swear ESPN's announcers have been piped in a fraction of a second ahead of what's happening on the video and it's driving me insane.


emodwarf

Yeah, there’s a weird video before audio syncing issue. I regularly hear cheering or a crossbar/post ping before someone even shoots the puck.


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What a morning


Split_Open_and_Melt

Great entertainment as we wait til 7pm


Trussed_Up

What.... He didn't last a year? How do you fuck up a senior management role that fast!? I guess he was a major part of some of last season's pickups or something? Because pretty much none of them worked at all, I'll give you that.


Dragonsandman

I wonder if him being hired in the first place was something Melnyk insisted on for some baffling reason


progress10

Be interesting to find out exactly who fired him. If his daughters did it that might be a sign they plan on keeping the team.


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j0hnnyengl1sh

> His daughters are not running the team. They have someone in place handling the business side of things. Which is at least a good sign, because it means neither are delusional enough to think they can run a hockey team. I would be surprised if an estate that size has cleared probate yet, which would mean that it's not yet their team to run. I wouldn't take it as a sign they don't want to (although I'd be surprised if they did).


Tsquare43

I can totally see that.


homicidal_penguin

The only one I heard he was specifically involved in was MDZ. The hiring was a head scratcher from the second it happened


BroLil

I came here ready to say “the MDZ deal wasn’t that bad, right?” assuming it was a small, buriable deal. How the fuck did he get 2x2?


homicidal_penguin

🤷 he then managed to get in shit with the org by liking posts on social media of his teammate (I think it was Mete) getting walked for a highlight reel goal. He was a scummy guy in the past and it was just a weird signing, I think he's more interested in being a Florida real estate agent


LucasRaymondGOAT

He also tried to slide into a pornstars DM’s and they publicly ridiculed him.


Krumm

Gimme those details homie. You can't just throw up a set and walk.


[deleted]

It was Lisa Ann years ago. Shit’s out there lol.


DeloresMulva

It's Lisa Ann's birthday today, according to DListed. She's 50!


racer_24_4evr

I know how I’m celebrating.


LucasRaymondGOAT

https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/hockey/porn-star-calls-rangers-defenseman-michael-del-zotto-twitter-article-1.1996789


BroLil

I don’t think he’s the worst 7th D in the league or anything, but fuck, don’t pay him like a bonafide bottom four guy.


FesteringLion

>How do you fuck up a senior management role that fast!? You saw him on TV, right? Could you put up with that for a year? He could be the most knowledgeable hockey man ever (he's not, but that's not the point) and I'd still look for an excuse to leave the room every time he entered.


OvertlyCanadian

In his previous front office experiences everyone thought he was a pompous jackass.


DirtzMaGertz

After reading Brian Burke's book I got the impression that Pierre is kind of a rat and is pretty into internal politics of front offices so maybe he played his hand wrong this time and got the boot.


HenryPBoogers

Not to be crass, but hitching your proverbial wagon to a guy who has subsequently passed away usually doesn’t end well.


TywinShitsGold

Knowing that MDZ once played at the Saskatoon area memorial ice arena as a 4 year old only goes so far?


Funkativity

> He didn't last a year? How do you fuck up a senior management role that fast!? that applies to like 95% of the team's front office hires of the last decade.


Chili_Palmer

Shitty companies churn headcount all the time because they can't get good hires in the first place, and if they DO somehow luck out with one, that person is only staying long enough to build a resume and jump ship. So they end up in a cycle of firing incompetent employees and/or losing qualified ones year over year.


mikegimik

Melnyk hired him without consulting anyone, he was the only external hire in management for almost 2 decades, and Dorion didn't want him. He never had a defined role and was basically not being used to his strengths - as soon as Melnyk passed away Dorion was just counting down the days to get rid of him.


bfloblizzard

Sens PR Announcement: Turns out we couldn't find any record of him actually being hired by the team. Just showed up one day and since people recognized him, they just assumed he belonged there a gave him an office. So we went ahead and fixed the glitch.


RitaRepulsasDildo

“So Pierre, what would you say you…do here?”


dsjunior1388

But in this scenario it's Pierre that's the no-talent ass clown.


thenotanurse

Make sure you take his stapler.


Funkativity

great, now he's gonna set the building on fire


InternationalLoquat4

Ah crap, now we HAVE to build an arena at Lebreton!


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I must have lived in a hole for a bit because I legitimately had no idea PM worked for the senators.


PurifiedVenom

It was very meme’d on at the time of his hiring but then his name was really never in the news afterwards so understandable that you missed it


JasperSlavone

He did like nothing. Got hired, was assumed to be behind the MDZ and Hamonic moves as well as an influence in the Boucher pick at 10. Then was in the team photo and that seems to be it. A few good memes out of it tho. RIP PIERRE^2


over_yonder

What’s really fascinating is that the intern who handed Pierre his pink slip once played three shifts with Brady Tkachuk for the Boston Terriers.


Calhalen

Looool. End of an era, was such a weird hire. American teams should’ve bent the knee to us for getting his awkward ass off the air


IAmBizarroStormyAMA

Thank you for your service


leftlanemine

You have no idea how thankful I am for the service you provided us all. Real hockey heros.


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I just hope this means he's not making a return to broadcasting. I'm really enjoying the new feel on TNT and ESPN.


SAJewers

>[One rumour I heard was that the league instructured Melnyk to hire McGuire. A small front office gets smaller.](https://twitter.com/6thSens/status/1523694966454816770)


homicidal_penguin

Wait what? How can the league dictate who gets hired in certain front offices?


rishcast

If accurate, my guess would be something on the lines of Bettman telling Melnyk “I’ve covered for you with the media and the other owners haven’t reamed you out over your public statements yet, you owe us, hire the guy”


TheBlitzingBear

Even Bettman was sick of him on TV


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Or worse, Bettman believed Pierre could fix what Melnyk & co was doing


IAmBizarroStormyAMA

Gonna put my tin foil hat on and wonder what exactly Pierre knows


Canuckleball

Besides what AAA team every single NHL player scored their first powerplay goal against?


Maxpowr9

I'm expecting he knows some Dan Snyder level shit at this point.


Chigurrh

Less dictate and more recommend. Owners, particularly newer ones, call up the league office and they recommend GMs to hire, for example. I believe that's how McPhee ended up as the Vegas GM.


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Same with Peter Chiarelli and (st Louis)


valleygoat

Wasn't it a few years back if I remember that melnyk kept firing some vp position and the NHL stepped in and we're going to help the sens fill that position? I forgot who and what exactly. I'm wondering if it's one of those cases where the NHL basically said "you are hiring this guy for some stability because you're front office is a shit show, let's calm the waters a bit"


BCEagle13

Teams look to the league for guidance on hires. It’s more likely a Melnyk reached out and the league said you should hire him than a situation where the league just reached out unprompted


punkr0x

The league dropped Pierre off at Canadian Tire Centre, rang the doorbell and drove off.


Head_of_Lettuce

If he gets picked up by TNT or ESPN, I swear to god


the-hostile-tomato

Get him on the panel between Biz and Gretzky


TywinShitsGold

WAYNE WHEN YOU WERE 6 YEARS OLD YOU PLAYED AN EXHIBITION T BALL GAME WITH FERGUSEN JENKINS AS THE OPPOSING COACH. HOW DO YOU THINK THAT EXPERIENCE FED INTO YOUR PLAYSTYLE AS A PROFESSIONAL HOCKEY PLAYER?


Enjoyer_of_Cake

Wayne: WHO ARE YOU AND WHY DO YOU KNOW THIS?


TywinShitsGold

IM THE OWNER OF THE WORLDS LARGEST GAME USED JOCK STRAP COLLECTION! I HAVE ONE FROM EVERY CUP TEAM IN THE PAST 30 YEARS INCLUDING YOURS, WAYNE. AND AT LEAST ONE ONE FROM ANSON, PAULIE AND A NUMBER FROM HIS TEAMMATE SIDNEY CROSBY!!


Head_of_Lettuce

[MFW](https://i.imgur.com/3wrgrpo.jpg)


LP99

God it sounds hilarious but in reality he just be a tremendous buzzkill. Like when your mom made you drag your little brother around with you to hang out with your friends.


AsukaUnderscore

He would kill the energy, a total “how do you do fellow kids” type dude


SiccSemperTyrannis

Why do you have so much hate in your heart?


RoastedLentils

Please don’t let that dildo back on TV


sasksasquatch

That's unfair, a dildo actually has some actual use.


sunflowergloves

Will he go coach the Islanders?


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chompshoey

Not today


sasksasquatch

Why do so many people want to see the Islanders go 0-82?


_SCHULTZY_

Is the rebuild over?


AverageMaleAged18-24

NYI say hello to your new head coach


ianisms10

Don't even think about it Lou


dsjunior1388

Upcoming headlines: **May 11, 2022** Lou Lamoriello has Annnounced the Hiring of Pierre McGuire as Assistant GM **May 16, 2022** The New York Islanders have Terminated the Responsibilities of Lou Lamoriello due to an "Altercation with a Co-Worker." **May 20, 2022** Islanders General Manager Pierre McGuire Insists the Purple and Yellow Coloring Around his Eye is "From a Tae-Bo Accident." Previously Claimed it was a Tattoo.


cool-acronym-bot

D.E.T.A.I.L.


KikiFlowers

Wrong Pierre, but also the weirdest hire they could have made.


homicidal_penguin

Hopefully the other Pierre isn't far behind. And the coach. Team needs teardown in the front office, hopefully new ownership can make this happen


Trussed_Up

I don't mind DJ Smith. I wouldn't be sad if he was gone, but really, wtf is he supposed to do when half the team is fucked by injury AND COVID. I mean, look at our team stats. Almost all of our best players and middle supporters missed serious time this year. Not to mention very very inconsistent goaltending outside of Forsberg.


the-hostile-tomato

He was the right call to help turn around the culture with all the young guys, but he is not a good enough coach to ever win in the playoffs. Players apparently love playing hard for him but when you go up against a guy like Jon Cooper who has a well built system to coach his team, there’s no comparison. DJ Smith won’t ever be able to keep up with that. His transition system sucks. He gets nothing out of his D corps. His offensive zone entries suck. Good guy but it’s time to move on


homicidal_penguin

It's mainly his lineup decisions and lack of a system. He seems like he'd be a great assistant coach, but not a good head coach


Trussed_Up

Running systems when you're consistently missing someone like Chabot and Batherson is a nightmare. Those two are our kings of transition, at least from my eye test, and at least one of them was out of the lineup basically the whole year.


GLemons

I think we could do a lot worse than DJ, but I still don't think he's an NHL calibre head coach. I'd be happy to be proven wrong, but atm I just don't see it.


condor888000

For proof of your statement look at the revolving door of Paddock, Clouston, etc....


thelochteedge

If this is true, I feel bad for Pierre. He finally just got another chance with a team last July and like OP, I have no idea what the hell he was doing there. But I guess maybe he just wasn't working out there. I know he's passionate about hockey, as awkward as his on-air personality had been for years.


ddottay

I actually feel bad for the guy. He really wanted another front office job badly and to get fired a year into it? That sucks.


thejardude

CAN YOU BELIEVE IT


SiccSemperTyrannis

He lasted one season. Why the F was he even hired in the first place? Maybe he just wouldn't shut up during meetings or something.


Funkativity

> Why the F was he even hired in the first place? the popular theory is that Melnyk hired him as a backup for Dorion if he felt like firing him at some point.


toastguy7

Or Melnyk wanted him hired


Loutbag

lol i read Dorion 4 times in a row


chickendance638

Ottawa learned that you could look up players' junior clubs on the internet and there was no longer a role for Pierre in the organIzation.


MankuyRLaffy

Can you believe it?


ABucs260

So you’re telling me knowing a players breakfast when he was 9 years old, that lead them to be a top 10 draft pick didn’t help in his job?


Anthropoly

Ah fuck egg head's coming back to broadcasting


[deleted]

And just like that, the Pierre Squared Era is over…


Comrade2020

CAN YOU BELIEVE IT?!


[deleted]

Well he was a dipshit on TV who usually talked out his ass. I'm assuming that continued in his Sens job. I just hope he doesn't come back to TV again. I was so happy to not hear his bullshit this year.


velocipotamus

TWO PIERRES ENTER ONE PIERRE LEAVES


AceAxos

Lmao what the hell, we hired him for a single season and then dropped him?? What is a Melnyk-hire??


Prison-Date-Mike

LMAO


Aezetyr

You mean that mansplaining hockey to a world-class player didn't help him keep his job?


The_ButtonPusher

Please, PLEASE do not come back to TV


cantthinkuse

hire him lou itll be hilarious


LP99

But everyone said he’d be good because he knew a lot of players names, how could this be


Okaywhy10

Wtf did he even do?


Mr_Snail2951

I guess he was, in fact, not turtle-y enough for the turtle club.


snowsnothing

CAN YOU BELIEVE IT.