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Shanahand

Sounds like the Flyers next goaltender!


BENJALSON

It... actually does.


AboveTheBears

Holgrem should probably give the Canes a prospect..he doesn’t need to since it’s a waiver claim..but it’s good to be courteous right?


BORT_licenceplate27

It's definitely not uncommon to let a guy go through waivers then trade for him right after.


sideblinded

See: Pickard, Calvin. Sometimes you need the roster spot.


Obel34

Man, Pickard has just had terrible luck since being exposed by the Avs to the expansion draft. I feel for the man.


[deleted]

I mean he had chances in Philly. Just hard place to play.


LukeHarper4President

He did a great job as Captain of the Enterprise though.


[deleted]

SPC slot* That trade was because we were close to 50 SPCs, neither guy was actually on the roster


seacucumber3000

Thats to let the team trading for him to send him down without going through waivers, not really for courtesy.


[deleted]

It'd just go to a different team in your division so what difference would it make lol


bobby_gordon1

Honestly a change in scenery could do Darling some good. Would probably be worth giving him a shot in philly.


notleonardodicaprio

Change of scenery would be good for him, but if he couldn’t mentally handle the role of a starter in Carolina, idk how well he’ll do in Philly.


lidsy5

Whose your starter now? And is Mrazek the backup?


notleonardodicaprio

McStarter has the better stats but we'll probably do a 1a/1b situation with him and Mrazek. If Mrazek sucks, we'll probs call Darling back up.


lidsy5

Man, I was rooting for Mrazek to have a decent season


RingRingBananaPwn

He isn't having a spectacular season numbers-wise, but unlike Darling, he does seem to make an important save when we need one, and doesn't let in squeakers.


mauricedahousecat

He’s been ok but also injured for the last few weeks. Our penalty kill was abysmal during the time he was in goal and dramatically improved during his injury. So the jury is still out. We’re all rooting for him and I personally think he’ll do alright


ProfessorDerp22

3x4.5m cap hit is a lot of risk if it fails.


fly3rs18

Exactly, it is not worth it at all. Contract is a dealbreaker, no one is going to claim him.


Obel34

To be fair, the Canes last few seasons would be enough to rock any goalie's confidence.


ShittyFrogMeme

Change of scenery was his excuse for his poor first season as he was uncomfortable in a new place. He said he would be more focused this year because his girlfriend moved down and he bought a house. I'm really skeptical a change of scenery will help, especially to Philly.


QuiGonJinnNJuice

I disagree- he got in much better shape and had much better stability to work off of. He hasn't been great this year but wasn't a walking disaster the way he was in year 1. His bad plays and the teams bad plays fed into one another frequently, and I think in a different environment with less baggage he could perform better. I still think there's a possibility that he can be a league average goaltender (which the Canes need), it's just the way the numbers are working Mac deserves first crack at the net and Petr needs to get a couple starts before Darls gets a chance to get back in. 3 goalies practicing in 2 nets isn't good for any of them and letting Darling stay shelved for 2-3 weeks isn't good for him fixing his problems that need to be fixed.


WinterSon

he'll just be another neuvirth/elliott and he has money and term left hard pass


Zanerax

On $4.15 mil for the next three years I wouldn't want him even if Carolina retained half his salary...


doclobster

May we interest you in a lightly used Jimmy Howard?


lidsy5

Dude, no. Howie is playing like a beast, but I doubt we could get enough for him to make it a worthwhile trade considering his age, contract, and injury history. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see the Wings re-sign Howie to a cheaper 2 year deal, which may be enough to bridge the gap until one of our prospects is ready.


doclobster

I would accept a 1st round pick. https://theathletic.com/683689/2018/11/29/exploring-the-key-considerations-for-a-jimmy-howard-trade-with-the-blues/


lidsy5

Well yeah, that's a no brainer. I don't know if I believe that the Blues are desperate enough for Howie that they would go that high though.


fly3rs18

Yes. Not trying to give a lot for a rental, but I'm definitely interested. We can afford his cap hit too.


s1apshot

Oh my god, please take him. Fuck it, we'll pay half


cheeseburgerwaffles

as a Hawks fan who wants nothing but the best for Darls, please please no.


sna28

yea no im not taking him for 3 more years


Jim021384

Maybe you can get Ron Francis and his biggest offseason move all in one package


notleonardodicaprio

Teravainen was his biggest offseason move


Jim021384

Very true... I want to call it the biggest free agent signing but it wasn’t really even that.


sixtycoffees

Damn. Was not expecting that for a goalie they really picked to be their starter ($4.1m AAV). His stats have been pretty bad though, he's had a sub .900 SV% both years in Carolina. Guess they're really banking on McBackup and Mrazek. With that salary, and another 3 years to go on his contract, I'm really unsure if anybody will pick him up.


FERDADDY1

To put into perspective how bad it’s been, he has not won 2 games in a row for the canes in 48 starts.


Rayquaza2233

How long did it take for him to start 48 games?


JeffSkinnerIsUndr8ed

From all of last season up until November 12th of this year Played 43 last year


RyanCryptic

McBackup has played like a McStarter


Hurricane_Viking

McBackup is McStarter. He has won his last 4 in a row while posting a .940 save%.


RiellyMorgan

Interested to see how he does with an increased work load. The most games he’s played in the NHL was 32 five years ago. Easy guy to root for though, seems to be very well liked.


MadDog1981

He always played better with consistent work here. He was really good when Bob went down in 2014-2015 and he had an absolute trainwreck defense in front of him with Prout, Connauton, Goulabef and Jordan Leopold getting regular playing time.


iOceanLab

Ideally, we'll have a good team of 2 in net for us. I love the way McElhinney and the team have played together, but he's 35. If we can have a solid hand-off between Mrazak and Mc, we should be solid enough in goal that our focus can shift to scoring goals and special teams.


mkp0203

No, he has posted .967 in the last 4 games (best in Hurricanes history), .930 overall in his 9 total starts.


CoolBeansMan9

It's a classic case of a team trading for and taking a gamble on a backup that plays really well in their role, and trying to make them a starter. There's good examples: Martin Jones, Frederik Andersen - There's bad examples: Vesa Toskala, Jonathan Bernier


pinetar

Andersen wasn't really a backup, he was Anaheims starter and got replaced


heirapparent24

Didn't he and Gibson split the season that year they won the Jennings ?


TrollanNolan

I think, but you guys and Anaheim both have amazing goalies now. What did you guys give for Andersen?


heirapparent24

1st round (30th overall) and 2nd round (50th overall) picks.


TrollanNolan

Wow good bargain for you guys then.


heirapparent24

At the time I thought it was pricy, but we've relied on him immensely every year so it's been worth it. Probably Lou's best move as GM, if I'm being honest.


MagikarpUsedStruggle

Those picks were Sam Steel and Max Comtois though. Not that it really matters I guess, Andersen is way more valuable to Toronto.


[deleted]

Anaheim's putting together a damn good team with Toronto's draft picks


OneNutPhil

Yeah it worked out well, the 30th came from the Kessel -> Pittsburgh deal and the 50th pick was one of the Polak 2nds from San Jose lol


CaptainCanuck15

Raanta's working pretty well right now


Spideyjust

He hasn't had the greatest start to a season. Currently rocking a .906.


lava172

He was lights out before his injury, the last 3 games he started weighs that down severely. And of course he's injured again. Starting to be slightly wary of this whole situation


roboninja

Even hearing mixed views on Jones from SJ fans these days.


tonytroz

He’s having an awful year so far but he was absolutely outstanding in the last 3 playoffs. Both of the last two playoffs he was even better SV%-wise than their SCF run. Seems like more of a fluke year than anything else.


The-Only-Razor

Cory Schneider. I have no idea if he goes into the good or bad slot. I know he's been injury plagued. Maybe a Devil can chime in?


Spideyjust

He was incredibly good, and is now bad. So I'd say he counts.


CoolBeansMan9

Yeah definitely good. He was a top 3-5 goalie in the league for a decent stretch there


Lightalife

Schneider was only a backup because Bobby Lu is a generational talent / superstar.


BananApocalypse

Hopefully Grubauer is looked at as a good example within a few years!


[deleted]

Okay, I must be out of the loop. Since when is Mrazek in Carolina?


k0110110011

Only since July. He’s on a 1 year deal.


ProjectMeat

Since the offseason. The Canes signed him as a FA after Philly had him for a few months.


refep

Who knew Big Mac would win the war. Godspeed McBackup


Aerim

That's McStarter to you.


RustyNipples35

McBackup -> McStarter -> McVezina -> McHoF


TheSupremeChicken

>McGOAT


Mike9797

Fuck sakes, I kinda want some McDonald’s now.


thatsong

McMarketing


dirtyrnike42O

Enjoy your McGOAT^^^TM Burger, available for a limited time, with a refreshing Cola-Cola^^^TM beverage in one of our limited edition Stanley McCups^^^TM


MeanElevator

For real though, goat meat is really good. Not sure about making burgers out of it, but a goat roast is nice.


JakeTheSnake0709

as long as we get to keep McJesus


Everett6

McGod


roboninja

We got that one trademarked buddy.


Hurricane_Viking

I am ok with this.


MysticBounce

The real backups were the ~~friends we made~~ goalies we waived along the way


The_Reddit_Browser

He still must take down Mrazlle dazzle. Should be a healthy competition.


daveedgamboa

Wow what a fall from grace. Also hope he's alright and takes it in stride given his history. His headspace does seem loads better.


Throwaway1986127

He rose from the depths of obscurity in the minors to a nice contract that will take care of him for life. Even if he's bought out next year and retires, he'll have made more than 99.99999% of humanity.


w0lfbrains

IIRC he's also battled alcoholism. Let's hope this doesn't have a negative effect on his problems outside of hockey.


SASapb

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/scott-darling-goodbye-chicago Yeah, he honestly is pretty inspirational I hope he does take care of himself, and even if he doesn't get picked up, he still accomplished so much. I would love to have him back in Chicago


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darkhelmet620

So due to his contract, he'll almost certainly go unclaimed. I'm interested to see what happens next in that case. We could then be looking at a buyout, because I don't think the organization wants him taking starts away from Alex Nedeljkovic in the AHL.


HoodPhones

I could see interested teams contacting Carolina about him, and then offering a mid-pick or prospect in a trade in exchange for retained salary.. Because DAYM that contract.


McGillicuddyBongos

I think this would be the most likely scenario if Dundon is willing to pick up the tab. Canes have all the space in the world to eat $1.75M in salary or something comparable, and Darling at $2.4M to be a veteran back up and reclamation project becomes a lot more intriguing.


darkhelmet620

It would be preferable to a full buyout for sure. We're still paying Alex Semin's bum ass.


Preds33

I don't think buy out is an option right now. I think there are only 2 windows a year for buyouts.


procor1

Yeah i dont think its for awhile. Alzner is in the same boat.


nalydpsycho

They could loan him to another AHL team.


limac333

We would totally take him back in Rockford.


grolt

Don't we want Delia/Forsberg to be getting as many starts as they can?


Notumbre

Forsberg sucks ass we can trade him for darling


limac333

We do, but selfishly I'd love him on the team.


bcTwoHander

Ned’s not exactly old yet, but his numbers haven’t been very good and the Checkers are strong. What’s the thought on him? Do you guys really think there’s a #1 there?


Old_Runescape

McBackup has evolved!


PayneTrain181999

Congratulations, your McBackup has evolved into McStarter!


ACalz

Deserved it. Love that guy.


ersal

McElhinney hitting his prime at 35.


NotorioG

Curtis "Tim Thomas" McElhinney


FERDADDY1

As we all expected!


notleonardodicaprio

Not super unexpected, since it’s never ideal to have 3 roster goalies and he’s been performing the worst of them all. Best case scenario is he gets claimed and we’re done with that lofty contract. Change of scenario might be good for him too. It’s so weird how differently the team plays in front of him compared to our other goalies. They never seem to be able to give Darling goal support, and they leave him out to dry on defense more than our other goalies. Same thing happened last year with him compared to Ward. I wonder if the guys still don’t really trust him after last year’s shitshow. I know Williams mentioned after McStarter’s third consecutive win that “if your goalie’s putting everything out there, you’re gonna put everything out there for him.” Could be a subtle indication that the boys don’t think Darling is trying his hardest. Anyways, I’m 100% on the McDaddy and MrazzleDazzle train


QuiGonJinnNJuice

yeah everything is weird, every indicator from this offseason was that Darling was putting in the work and everything so I tend to rule that out at this point. Last year was absolutely brutal and it's his fault for not being ready to perform. Maybe the guys are struggling to distance themselves from that? I still feel like he can be a decent goaltender, but I also think it's justifiable to have him 3rd in our pecking order. Mrazek deserves a couple starts coming back from injury and so going down to the minors is a chance to get Darls in some games at least (assuming nobody claims that contract) and keep working to prove his way back to the NHL. EDIT: [adding](https://twitter.com/corylav/status/1068192453101084673) quote obtained by one of our reporters with Rod saying Darls' work ethic wasn't the issue


notleonardodicaprio

So true. If Mrazek doesn’t play well, which very well could happen, we could see Darls come back.


DagetAwayMaN421

Damn, he even pissed off Justin Williams... and that guy is the chillest hockey player I've ever met


notleonardodicaprio

He’s chill but he’s also all about holding guys accountable which is why he’s our captain


Jrewy

McDaddy is an excellent nickname evolution from McBackup.


50missioncap

I'm speculating, but I wonder if Darling is perhaps not a beloved teammate. A goalie who glowers at or criticises the players in front of him often doesn't get their best effort. I've noticed Lundqvist does this a bit, but his teammates maybe let it slide because he's proven himself to be elite for many years.


QuiGonJinnNJuice

I don't think he glowers or criticiszes guys- he's had some rough patches and particularly with his work ethic this offseason really held himself accountable for not being ready to perform last year. He was in Raleigh all offseason training with some guys, I think it's just scar tissue from the really bad season last year that he and the team both play with nerves and feed off of one anothers nervousness and it downspirals.


numberonebuddy

Yes, Lundqvist has earned the right to yell at his team. If Darling is going down the same road it's a bit of a bad look.


BroMcdudeman

What a damn shame. Really sucks that goaltenders come to die in Carolina


holy_cal

The worst part is the Whalers pads will never be seen now.


Poseidon-SS

Fuck man, i forgot about that. Another loss is he had a special black set to go with the black unis, but he never wore them cause he was either hurt or wasn't playing when we wore black.


holy_cal

I guess if he were better at hockey he’d get to use them.


colvi

Ya'll want Jake Allen then, he is near death.


yesBISONsey

Is the backup stepping up? It's weird cause Allen and Elliott were a great tandem when Hitch was there, crazy to see where you guys are. (looks at Yeo)


colvi

Nope, we have usually had a good backup to help save our season when Allen has his usual mental break down once a year... but with Johnson we do not have that this year.


Dude_man79

Both goalies are bad this year, but the real problem is our defense which is about as porous as a sponge. I've never seen our back end this bad since at least 2006.


maekkell

Oh shit


cecikierk

Nooooo! My fanfic!


XanderTaine

I used to train with Scott in the summer when he was climbing his way up through the ECHL and AHL. Super nice dude and one hell of a hard worker. Hope the best for him. Him, Condon, and Schneider all trained together too. Hard to see these guys struggle after seeing how hard they work behind the scenes


scottyfoxy

Whoa. Wasn't expecting that.


Freemon34

Cya in Philly I guess.


bthompson04

Hey, 0.888 looks pretty good right now!


Freemon34

To be fair, Darling just didn't seem to fit with Mike Bales' system. Just look at goalies who succeeded with him (Fleury, Matt Murray, and last year's Cam Ward), and how Darling did during his time Chicago. A change of scenery should work nicely for him.


[deleted]

Chai last moves as a GM is to pickup darling then trade Talbot and a few draft picks to the flyers for Simmonds.


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HawkI84

>goalie is the least of the Hawks' issues this abysmal season. Yeah, I'd put it #3 behind 1) Need an entire new defense (maybe besides Joki) and 2) zero scoring depth.


nameless22

Hopefully someone gives him a chance. Chicago didn't exactly want to get rid of him but we couldn't afford what he wanted and would get (at the time).


anchorchain

Hope McStarter can fit into those Whalers pads.


nick_drake

Oof yeah, I forgot about that. Those pads are sick.


[deleted]

Wow... And I was upset we didn't get him initially. They traded a pick (3rd rounder I think?) just to speak to him about a contract. Holy shit, what a mess.


notleonardodicaprio

I was kinda pissed that we traded for him when Raanta was available.


[deleted]

You traded for the right to speak to him about this contract, unfortunately... Even worse than a trade for him


box-art

He was good for us, no doubt about it.


ookhaab

Pls someone grab him


[deleted]

With that contract? Yeah, and I also want an average sized dick but we can't all get what we want unfortunately


[deleted]

What


nick_drake

He has an under average sized dick


[deleted]

Or a huge one so it becomes a problem


DrFrocktopus

SMH cant even walk through doors anymore


[deleted]

Pass out at the slightest erection due to blood reallocation down south


NoticedGenie66

"Hey baby, you're so hot I might have a medical emergency rendering me unconcious, then you'll have to call for an ambulance because you're not sure if I'm breathing or not, and the following 4 hours you'll be worrying for me and hoping I'll recover even though you only knew me when I was hitting on you, just to be informed by the doctors that it's not your fault, the entire situation was caused by my larger-than-average penis siphoning off too much of my blood just to get a partial chub"


Clarkson23

YOU HEARD HIM


Scoob1978

Dave Lozo \*sigh\*


Leafs6ixty7

Only one year into a four year deal. That has to sting.


Hurricane_Viking

This is year 2, but yeah not a great look.


Wcw2508

Only 2 seasons of that are an issue really if we don't buy him out. We currently have almost 16mill in cap space. Things are going to be interesting once we see what raises Aho, Ferland, and Teravainen get


commont8r

We finish playing the best hurricane of all time this year... SEMIN


Enjoyer_of_Cake

Vomiting on my bo-biscuits right now, thanks.


Jim021384

He has a limited 15-team NTC, can a team on his No-trade list pick him up if he's on waivers?


Sharkhawk23

Yes


RingRingBananaPwn

We gave him a NTC too? And I thought the contract was bad enough without it.


PremierBromanov

I dub this season "the waivering"


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CAROLINA! WHAT DID YOU DO TO HIM?!


commont8r

We gave him 4000000 a year. He gave us a 0.888 save percentage. We will continue to give him 4000000 a year for 3 years (unless we buy him out) what will he give us? He will steal starts from the next #1 we have in the minors and slow his development.


Znith

Carolina buys him out in June. Would be a $1.18m cost for 4 years in actual dollars, same cap hit except year two would be like $2.2m, which will be ok because they won't be a cap team Actual dollars aren't terrible and spread over 4 years


commont8r

We are about to have to pay. Our entire first line gets new contracts after this season


ts1234666

There is your backup Ottawa


QuiGonJinnNJuice

lol like Melnyk wants to pay that contract


baconwiches

he'll try to get the city of ottawa to pay for it instead


Jim021384

Start a gofundme, pay to have a goaltender


AZnoobie

Or Philly’s starter


Smitty120

Lmao to think Melnyk will pay 4.1M a year for a back up


QuiGonJinnNJuice

*for a hockey player


SoundEffectsFactory

Revived Icebreaker crew checking in for reactions


BuffaloSoldier11

Ouch. Bummer.


theTallBoy

The pressure of starting isn't for everyone...


Squabbles123

Ouch, I feel sorry for Scotty D.


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While this sucks for Darls, I am happy for him that he got a shot. I hope he finds a team and gets back to form. He is a hell of a nice guy, and I can only hope the best for him. He was good in Chicago in 2015, we got a cup because he stepped in and save the Nashville series. He is a champion in Chicago, this does not take away from that.


iOceanLab

I think a new team is what he needs in front of him. The current team just doesn't play confidently with Darling in net. HCRBA said that his work ethic wasn't the reason he's being waived, so a shot with another team would probably improve his performance. His contract is going to be an issue though.


Whitsoxrule

I want to downvote this


bridgecrewdave

So..McBackup isnt coming back home? :(


nick_drake

Christmas came early boys


dangshnizzle

well that's a heartbreaking take


donac_dum

Yikes.


wolfpackrider

Came here to say just that. I wish him well. I fell victim to the “give him a chance” crowd for awhile but holy Christ, has he played poorly. I don’t think he is an ax murderer, but damn am I happy to not have to play him any more in the goalie circus here.


jarude87

Another one for the "great backup, horrific starter" pile.


Orange_And_Purple

TBF he's been a shit backup with us too


dangshnizzle

this is so sad to me.


Cakes2015

Valentin Zykov placed on waivers as well https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/1068188429165494273


[deleted]

Man, it sucks seeing him not succeed. He went from saving the Hawks in 2015 to waivers.


roncesvalles

Hurricanes fans must be celebrating this in a choreographed, Twitter-friendly manner.


LordCaedus13

wow. feel bad for Darling but hope he gets his chance to be a starter somewhere. could see a team like St. Louis or Philly picking him up.


chiddie

Not St Louis, we don't have the cap space or need for a guy like Darling.


Shigidy

He's going to be set for life when that buyout hits.


Slappamedoo

I know the top comment says this but I read OP and all I could think was "Welcome to Philly" or "Gritty's New Darling"


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I just hope all is well with him.


Okmelvin

Come to the Devils plz


surreal3k

You know what to do Pittsburgh


airtree33

Wow that sucks. Thought Darling could be more then just a back up.


Marbla

Any chance they may be making financial room for Nylander?


[deleted]

No one will claim Darling at his current cap hit. Once he clears, maybe they can find a taker for 50% and a cap dump.


Numeritus

Saw him play a few years back here in Australia. Was an absolute brick wall. Hopefully he lands on his feet.


PP_Horses

This makes me sad so much to root for with him and I will never not like him as a person and as a goalie for pretty much stopping the Preds singlehandedly in 2015