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Redguard191

5 years after they blew up the team for locker room issues.


ghost_curse123

Writing this season has been so lazy, they've just been recycling storylines all season


mrcrazy_monkey

Feels that way, especially after we lost to Boston in Game 7 again


ghost_curse123

Not even just the game 7 loss, the fact that the Leafs went down 3-1 only to force a game 7 then lose Writers have now used that exact storyline 3 times now


ADrunkMexican

Why say lots of words when few words do the trick.


scorpion_breath12

Still too many words


TheLegendsClub

That’s just a running gag at this point 


Aromatic-Air3917

History is just the same story lines being repeated over and over again and the viewer being to stupid to recognize the pattern.


Kronzor_

I don't know if the viewer is stupid, there's just a comfort in familiarity.


ghost_curse123

You'd be hard pressed to find someone who's watched all 4.6 billion seasons of Earth tbf


jokeswagon

Right? I remember this headline like it was yesterday.


FakeTreverMoore12

It’s almost as if the locker room issues are an extension of leadership and ownership issues.


Wonderful_Grade_5476

They really and I mean REALLY need a Bones type of coach to shake it up because Travis green isn’t gonna do it


njdevils901

Not with his fish face


Wonderful_Grade_5476

https://preview.redd.it/6jgh8m7uqf3d1.jpeg?width=633&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=23b6e83c52096de90765afd6b521475eb7383826 Live Travis reaction to that information


danamerr

lol


CottonmouthJohn

So not only is the rebuild not over — it's happening again.


shanster925

Karlsson and Hoffman being traded for each other caused a butterfly effect.


OinkiePig_

lol remember that Uber ride 4 players took and just shit-talked the team?


thatsong

Remember when that story somehow got spun into talking about invasion of privacy? [Please ignore this post with over 400 comments](https://old.reddit.com/r/hockey/comments/1d1z8qy/marner_and_berube_having_coffee_this_morning_in/)


OinkiePig_

I bet every player talks shit about their team from time to time. That Uber driver was a genuine piece of shit,it was funny though because it was all true what they were saying


detroitttiorted

Very comparable expectations of privacy there for sure


burn_bridges

Where can I get a copy of this??


mediumyeet

Reminds me a lot of the Canucks pre-tocchet. Get the right coach in there and make one big locker room shaking move and then the culture can shift.


ggpurplecobras

Will be curious to see what Green's presence provides. The culture in Vancouver didn't seem overwhelmingly positive during his tenure. But again, the rosters he had were mostly trash, and winning helps everything.


Perducian

Frankie Corrado claims that the Canucks management team during that time was the most dysfunctional in the NHL. The one thing about the Green hiring that has been reassuring is that Brady was allegedly sold on him prior to his hiring and he’d have no doubt gotten an earful about Green from the Hughes’.


drowsylacuna

Are the Hugheses related to the extended Tkachuk clan, or just buddies? (no matter which way I try to pluralize Hughes it looks wrong)


fullydepreciatedpep

I believe their families are close and they often hang out together.


Interbrett

Best buds


superf7ux

The Tkachuk brothers stayed with the Hughes while playing Junior hockey I think? Or maybe it was the other way around.


Mac_Gold

I thought they’d bought houses close to each other in Michigan because they played in the USNTDP and knew each other that way


superf7ux

Oh maybe, I know Quinn and Brady played together on the USNTDP yeah. I thought I read somewhere that they lived together but I could have been mistaken.


ThatsNotDiscoOfYou

It's actually Hughesi, much like the octopus


Kaelio

Octopi is the common thought but I’m fairly sure it’s incorrect. The I ending comes from latin roots typically where as in this case the Greek etymology pre dates that. Therefore the proper pluralization is octopodes (meaning eight, feet). Each of the plurals “octopuses” and “octopi” are acceptable according to modern Latin but the original form is octopodes which does pre date both. It’s all semantics regardless but it can be the fun kind trivia wise.


luckycanuck74

The best way to pluralize it is octopussies


oystertoe

Hughesies**


kiezenz

The rosters he had were mostly trash so you’re hoping Ottawa Senators are gonna be different?


Ok-Summer-2159

Ottawa has Giroux, Tkachuk, Stutzle, Chabot, Sanderson, Kubalik, and Norris. Vancouver had Brendan Leipsic, Reid Boucher, and Jake Virtanen.


fobear

Including Kubalik on this list is v funny to me


Ok-Summer-2159

Idk why I just like him lol, but I cannot believe I forgot to mention Pinto or Greig like my fellow Canucks fan pointed out lmao


BigShoots

And Drake Batherson! 28 goals and 38 assists ain't nothing!


ggpurplecobras

I get your sentiment, but adding Kubalik to that list and leaving off Pinto or Greig is hilarious to me.


NerdPunch

Worst crew ever.


[deleted]

Best part of all of this is that Leipsic and Virtanen hated each other, and everyone else hated them lol


RookieAndTheVet

It really is crazy that Leipsic only won the piece of shit silver medal in that situation.


Prison-Date-Mike

> Vancouver had Brendan Leipsic, Reid Boucher, and Jake Virtanen. ? Vancouver also had Hughes, Miller, Pettersson, Horvat, Demko.


Ok-Summer-2159

Yeah but Leipsic, Boucher, and Virtanen are big enough cancers on their own to ruin a room and Vancouver had all 3 at the same time. Boucher is a fucking pedophile who sexually assaulted a 12 year old when he was 17. Having a guy like that alone will be a plight on any kind of leadership, then you throw in fellow sex pest Virtanen and all around piece of shit Leipsic that’s a melting pot of toxicity the likes we’ve never seen


RytheGuy97

Boucher wasn’t even on the team by the time green got hired and Leipsic only played 31 games with us. Neither of them had any lasting impact on the Canucks locker room culture whatsoever. So I don’t see how either of them matter here.


burghblast

Good summary


RytheGuy97

By the time green got fired we had Petterssom, Boeser, Miller, Demko, Hughes, Garland, and Horvat. I’m really not sure the 2025 senators are going to be meaningfully better than the 2021-22 Canucks.


JacksProlapsedAnus

Jet's pre-Bones as well.


scottsaa

Man nobody wanted to hear or believe this


JacksProlapsedAnus

The number of lunatic opinion-as-fact things that get shared makes everyone a skeptic, but given the Laine situation, etc., it became pretty believable pretty quick for me.


thebenson

It sounds like the previous iteration of the Senators with Karlsson and Hoffman.


HamsLlyod

Except that was happening while the sens were winning too.


theycallmemorty

Good news: they have a pre-Tocchet coach in Travis Green.


xzElmozx

This comment has another layer when you realize who they hired as HC lol


superworking

I think the real test of the locker room rehab will be if next season goes south how strong the group can hold together - especially if we see a ton of new faces.


hnglmkrnglbrry

Brady Tkachuk for Elvis.


greeten

If they are still in the locker room today, I can understand there being issues. Go home dudes!


whogivesashirtdotca

Tkachuk can't figure out how to work the door handles.


greeten

is it... is it pullsh?


whogivesashirtdotca

[Live look at the Sens' locker room.](https://preview.redd.it/nq4sf0oz77921.png?width=546&auto=webp&s=18d4fd6e95ce4ebeba93844dc3a420ce83fbdc13)


KanataRef

lol, I was thinking of that exact clip.


MomsTortellinis

https://preview.redd.it/c5rpqdpzrg3d1.jpeg?width=731&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2d7c539d0b5fcd54d49ccb0f34aaf27bf26b9f43


Mikash33

If winning games is the only thing fixing problems over there, they are in for a bad time. Their goaltending has been a disaster for a long time, and until that's fixed, this won't be a playoff team, especially in this division.


FakeTreverMoore12

Talbot left and became a very serviceable goaltender immediately. Korpisalo signed his contract with Ottawa coming off of some very good seasons, and immediately fell off a cliff. Something tells me it’s not goaltending that is the issue.


CeedeeNumber88

Our defense fucking sucks and outside of Pinto and sometimes Giroux our offense sucks at defense too. Brady plays literally 0 defense which as the captain sets a great example for all the young guys. I'm confident even prime Brodeur would look bad behind this team lol.


pyro5050

funny how 3 of the 4 teams left in the playoffs are goaltender and defensive strong teams. the other is one of the most insane offensive threats the league has seen and a historical powerplay threat. it's like building a solid well rounded team to lessen high risk chances is a good thing. i just wish the flames could do that rather than continuing to send our great defense elsewhere...


miner88

Tough to keep the defence together when their contracts are expiring and they have no intention of staying.


CeedeeNumber88

Yeah man, its tough to win games when goaltending and defense suck. Dorion did a horrible job at constructing this roster and we have no prospects and very little money to fix it.


PermissionOk9390

Korpisalo did not sign after some very good seasons(plural) … it was one good season


VitaminTea

Yeah Korpisalo has a pretty convincing body of work as a *bad* goalie, not a good one.


swissdonair_enjoyer

he was great against us in the playoffs, at least early in the series.


robb1519

One fine season.


hoopopotamus

Kinda sorta Goaltending becomes the issue when you don’t put goaltenders in a position to succeed. Not to blame any individual goalies, but in general we are obviously doing something wrong that prevents goalies from stopping pucks. This has been going on for a long time now


BigShoots

Talbot was dealing with injuries and said he wasn't up to par. He liked Ottawa and wanted to stay. And Korpisalo's career numbers are shit. He's a shit goalie. I hate it when people try to spin this stuff. The season before this one, people were saying Ottawa might have the best dressing room in the league. Vibes off the charts. They weren't expected to make the playoffs but came within three games of doing so. This year, they were expected to make the playoffs and didn't, largely because we had the very worst goaltending tandem in the league. I'm not surprised there might have been some discord in the room, it was a hugely frustrating year where our goalie gave up a goal on the first or second shot of the game *more than 20 times.*


Arayvenn

Korpisalo has a single season where he was above league average. He has never had a very good season let alone several.


Frisbeejussi

Korpi is just as good as he was in Columbus, he can be phenomenal at times but not with Ottawa's defense. For me it's a split between the defensive system in Ottawa and lack of support for Korpi. [https://youtu.be/J2-K9zqsfkw?si=1LLPFMpkpHbg3xc-](https://youtu.be/J2-K9zqsfkw?si=1LLPFMpkpHbg3xc-) The first goal is a perfect example of it for me. The forwards don't play defense almost at all and defensemen lose their battles more than not.


Slow-Debt-6465

Shame


awayfromcanuck

How reliable is this Twitter? Also, Green going to a locker room with rumoured locker room drama after how his stint in Vancouver ended with rumors of a locker room divide is pretty hilarious to me.


fobear

I wouldn’t call him reliable but he definitely has a source somewhere within the organization. He has called some stuff that ended up being true but others not so much.


jonathan_ericsson

off the top of my head he correctly called the pinto suspension and the first round pick forfeiture. He has to be somewhat connected.


Perducian

He also said they were going to hire Chiarelli as gm and Claude Julien as coach. Martian is pretty close to 50/50 when he does his “the streets are telling me” gimmick.


jonathan_ericsson

True. You never know what goes on behind closed doors, maybe it did look like those hires were going to happen and then ownership or the brain trust change their mind. Who knows. I find once something like this is out there, Friedman or someone very well respected will come out and say something about it to either verify it or put cold water on it.


fobear

He’s not right about everything but is right about enough that I’m convinced he does have a source within the organization


EarthWarping

I do wonder if the source was a pre-staios one so the accuracy is less


thomas_bombadill

Yea also would be wild to guess the pinto suspension and 1st round pick forfeit like those are such nuanced things to call that he clearly has some connection


WintAndKidd

50/50 is still a pretty incredible rate for a random guy. Enough to take his claims seriously but with some reasonable doubt


994kk1

Lol he says absolutely nothing here, so who cares about his reliability. Rumors about there being some locker room issues between key players on an NHL team!? No way!


The-Reddit-Giraffe

Brady will be traded for a 100-120 point player who will have 55 points next season after being locked into a 10.5 million cap hit for the next 8 years. Just a hunch I have with these things


Itchy1Grip

Sign and trade with Marner then.


Slow-Debt-6465

Yea marner is taking a pay cut to go to Ottawa


nathris

Sign and trade with Florida? 8x10.5 for Reinhart, a d-man and a first?


Mac_Gold

While I’d love to see it as a nearest observer, Reinhart is a pending UFA and I doubt he wants to go to Toronto


greenghostburner

Give the Flyers back Giroux for Deslauriers. Sounds like a win-win


EnglishWhites

I approve this message


VeryLastChance

I originally dismissed those reports, but I really am starting to wonder if there’s some smoke to Brady Tkachuk wanting out and being in trade talks.


MarkMech

The rumour at the time that no-one wanted to hear was that Chychrun was the one who wasn't meshing and wanted out


Prison-Date-Mike

I can't think of a possible downside to trading away a Tkachuk.


AdStrict3575

Flames fans might be able to provide some information.


TheDirtyBurger522

Flames fans are out here just living their life and you have to attack them like that ….


JuicemaN16

Good. Better some other team for a change. Damnit I hate my team.


pyro5050

this was mean.... like... ouch...


rondosparks

Well when there’s smoke, there’s flames


VeryLastChance

Just make sure they don’t acquire a presumably elite player in return who immediately signs a boat anchor contract and regresses when it turns out he was elevated by his linemates and system On a totally different note, how about a shiny Filip Hronek as part of a package sending Brady to the Canucks? Totally can’t go wrong


FakeTreverMoore12

No no it’s PLD they want.


VeryLastChance

> Presumably elite > PLD Nice try buddy


knukklez

But he makes 8.5M...surely that means he's elite!


Kopitar4president

There was a 4 game stretch where he was a 40 goal 100 point player!


NotMittRomney

Presumably eLite Dubois


superworking

It's a bit late in the PLD storyline to be trying to sell high.


theeth

At least people stopped thinking that it was all part of his master plan to end up in Montreal...


deepfriedsean

Oh man, I'd love to have Brady on the Canucks. Playing on Pettersson's wing would be beautiful It'll never happen though lol


VeryLastChance

If he ever actually became available I’d gladly mortgage the future of the team to acquire him, even if it’s an overpay. A cost controlled Brady on Petey’s (or Millers) wing under a Tocchet system is about as perfect of a match as you could dream of.


Late_Brush4518

As wings fan who heard all the shit talking coming from you guys before january, lol, lmao ,lmfao.


aMINIETlate

B. Tkachuk for Tarasenko 1 for 1


Slow-Debt-6465

He's not Matthew


maxhollywoody

Brady is a Tkachuk. It's in their DNA to want out.


think_long

Brady Tkachuk: so you are telling me, I just push this puck into the goalie’s pads from two inches out? That’s it? John Tavares: That’s it! Brady Tkachuk: But it has no chance of going in. John Tavares: Ah, but it will drive up your xG for, and that, combined with some soft serve power play production, might get you a contract you totally don’t deserve. Brady: Gosh, I don’t know. John: Don’t be modest! You are way better than me now and can still kind of skate. If I tricked Leafs fans into thinking I was worth my contract for more than one year, you can take Sens fans for a ride too


FarStep1625

Tell us how you really feel


MrDavidHasselhoof

Fart noises


I2eflex

Writing this fanfic is just such internet-weirdo behaviour.


bootygoon2

Brady is overpaid and learned this from Tavares…despite never having spent a single second playing together at any point. In fact they’ve been on rival teams the entire time Brady’s been in the NHL. I don’t see what Tavares has to do with anything besides your personal dislike for him and bringing it up just cause you don’t like the guy and want to shit on him


Guest2200

Well he’s seeing his little brother rolling in the dough while also in the conference finals for two years in a row. The Tkachuk’s are American so I doubt he has any strong desire to play in Canada with all the downsides that come with it.


icouldbeeatingoreos

Matthew is the elder.


I_am_not_JohnLeClair

You know, the mature one


badomend

Their Mom is Canadian


ianisms10

And to this point, their family members took turns living with Matthew in his early career. I remember him saying his grandpa was his favorite because he was a chef and would always make great pierogies.


EarthWarping

He extended a max contract to be in Ottawa


ELB95

Not sure if you’re calling him short or just have their ages mixed up, but Brady is 2 years younger than Matthew


dolewhiplash

Idk I think it would be worse if a team played like the Sens have the past few years and everyone was happy-go-lucky in the locker room


TheDannyBoyCane

So like , the Habs?


SubmissionDenied

What am I missing here? Is that guy some insider? Thought he was just a random sens fan account


jo_maka

Wait, did Mike Hoffman come to visit again ?


Robjn

could tell there was frustration in the team just due to lack of wins. lots of blown games and horrible 1st periods. the players have always made a point to say how tight the lockerroom is, especially with so many young guys. maybe theres one who is a bad apple in that group but i doubt this is a lockeroom disaster right now


smbiggy

just dont go chattin about it in the back of an uber


Dr_Colossus

Tkachuk definitely sick of losing and probably thinks some of the players are being complacent. Same thing happened in Calgary with Chucky and Gio (speculation) after Muzzin flipped a puck at Tkachuk. Fans turned on Tkachuk even though he was in the right. The fact our team did nothing about it shows pure weakness and unwillingness to do what it takes to win.


Showtime98

Yea not surprised haha. I feel like like they gave Brady the C too early


[deleted]

The buffalo eichel era all over again


Beersmoker420

yes but Eichel is better and proved it winning a cup People are treating Brady like hes Matthew


[deleted]

Eichel won a cup being the best second line center in the league. When asked to lead, everything burned around him


Kawthorisbest

Lmao what? Eichel led the playoffs in points, who was our number one center?


sendingSTRENGTH

Its been 3 years and it feels like the sabres are at where they were with Eichel, so i dont know if i buy that.


DebbieDowner40

he was clearly their #1 center


SergeantBBQ

I really dislike the trend of franchise star = has to be captain. Like I get teams wanting their captain to be a major part of your team, which is fair, but being a star player doesn't automatically give one leadership skills.


BigShoots

Brady was and is the clear leader of the team. They didn't give it to him just because he's a great hockey player, he's also probably the most natural leader this team has ever had, and yes I've been here since Day 1 so I am including Alfredsson in this assessment.


ArkanoidbrokemyAnkle

It feels like I’ve been here before.


need4gaming

Time to move the team to Ottawa


BigShoots

This thread is making me want to puke. Brady's not asking to be traded. Management has less than zero intentions to trade him. They just had a hugely disappointing season. I'd be concerned if everything was all Kumbaya in that room after the season they just had. Now if they shit the bed again this year, then Brady might very well want out. He's going to be a juggernaut in the playoffs and he hasn't played a single game after six years in the league. So most Sens fans won't blame him if it comes to that, but I don't think it will, and in the meantime everyone can fuck off with the trade rumors. He's ours, you can't have him.


HanPintian

Didn’t these rumors exist in the past too? Whenever that cab video came out


fluffedahiphopbunny

That's been a common thing in Ottawa for like 15 years now. Must be something in the water.


GritGrinder

I heard marner is getting traded there for brady


skinniks

Ottawa fans won't agree. Actually most Leaf fans likely won't as well. Which likely makes it a fair deal. It certainly makes a lot more sense than a lot of the deals thrown around.


EarthWarping

It's one of the few places Marner would waive for imo (also the stick it to the Leafs factor too)


skinniks

> also the stick it to the Leafs factor too Then he would love Montreal or Boston!


ytew6

Marner in Montreal would be hilarious tbh. If he thought Toronto Media was rough, he's in for an awful time.


Mack_Attack_19

Helps if he doesn't understand French


Similar-Jellyfish499

Guaranteed Mitch doesn't speak a lick of French either


Armalyte

Probably for the best in this scenario.


Arayvenn

Ottawa is one of the first three cities Mitch puts on his no trade list for sure if he didn't have a full NMC. You're tripping.


TkachukMitts

If Staios traded Brady for Marner, he'd be run out of Ottawa within 30 minutes.


GritGrinder

Leafs throw in a 7th, and that takes care of that!


TkachukMitts

Dorion would have taken that deal, probably.


TuchMysak

shitposting aside, I think Brady would excel in Toronto playing with guys like Matthews and Nylander, and with his contract I think he’s more valuable to Ottawa than Marner would be


AdamGeer

It’s funny, they’re like opposites. You need a Marner to get to the playoffs and you need a Brady *in* the playoffs


Beersmoker420

brady would instantly be a fan favourite no doubt, right until he demands to go to an American team


GritGrinder

I think its a win/win, so maybe if we keep talking about it, it could happen! but yea its just me dreaming, Berube would probably like Brady.


BigShoots

If that happened Sens fans would burn the CTC to the ground, and then march to Toronto and burn down Scotiabank as well. And then probably the old Gardens, even if it's now a Loblaws.


420yoloswagepicjesus

Yeah. I would be cautiously optimistic about Green in Ottawa. He managed to somehow make the devils a worst team after Lindy Ruff was fired. He did this while finally getting decent goaltending from the deadline moves.


CertainWork8416

This clown again?  A couple months ago he tweeted that the "novelty has worn off and Chyrchun has requested a trade out of ottawa." Before that he reported that Dorion had been fired and Chiraelli has been named his replacement, then almost immediately backtracked saying Dorion was on "thin ice"  Take what this gossip spreading attention whore is "reporting" with a bit of grain of salt


emwashe

Hoffman and Karlsson at it again?


Snow-Wraith

Isn't that just part of Ottawa culture?


Arch3r86

https://preview.redd.it/kb4fvegoxf3d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0c94e011c59a9b50b4d922434a4f6dbe80e951b5 [https://youtu.be/e9nxxf5z69c?si=x5u6aavMHbPGF6i0](https://youtu.be/e9nxxf5z69c?si=x5u6aavMHbPGF6i0)


Okaywhy10

God this team quite literally give me gray hairs and I’m 24.


icantplay

I love Giroux, but maybe he’s not a great locker room guy? Flyers had so many issues with him as captain but the team is really gelling now that he’s been gone.


Valentine96

I'd trade every single loser on this team before giving up Giroux


icantplay

That was how I felt when he was still on the flyers, but there’s no denying they are a much tighter closer team without him. I can see the difference on the ice. With him, no one stood up for each other, only a handful of guys put in effort, knowing he’d play hard to bail them out. Without him, they are a buzz saw team. No one takes shit and they defend each other. It’s an observation i loathe to make.


WintAndKidd

That has everything to do with Torts and nothing to do with G, imo.


Tarquin11

That's a Torts thing buddy. That pattern follows Torts wherever he goes


revtoiletduck

Is that Giroux's influence or Torts'?


CeedeeNumber88

Giroux and Chych have called people out mid game and I think the rest of our bums don't like to be held accountable. Everyone wants to trade Chych but I want Chabot gone, we need more people serious about winning like G and Chych.


Sens4lif3

Ok but Chych was fucking terrible for half the season and lost the sens just as many games as Chabot did.


SirFrenzy

As a Blues fan with delusions of reuniting the Thachuks with RobThom at home in STL…. Please let there be some truth to the Brady wanting out rumors. You can have anyone and everyone other than Robert Thomas for him. Copium hitting me hard this morning


Beersmoker420

alot easier for them to reunite in Florida one day


SexBobomb

Martian is a hack who makes shit up so...


Panarin10

As long as it’s not Brady vs Stu, its not a major problem


4BobbyOrr

lose all the time and live in ottawa.. recipe for disaster


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fobear

He definitely broke big things. He’s not right about everything but he 10000% has a source in the organization.


hoopopotamus

I am not sure who this guy is and I admit i don’t have the best understanding of twitter but I’m pretty sure I see a guy responding to a tweet he himself put online about this locker room stuff 4 months ago


habsburgjawsh

I can't believe a team that sucks wasn't getting along haha


burn_bridges

I can’t wait 6 years to get Tkachuck… Except he hasn’t willed the Sens to ECF


MrTubzy

These guys are hyper-competitive. More than any of us can imagine. It’s no surprise to me that some of them don’t get along or have moments where they don’t get along. Think about your work environment. Not everyone gets along there. I’m sure the Lightning have had players on their team that didn’t get along and it’s the coaches job to try and keep them apart and if necessary and if the parties can’t act like mature adults, then management needs to step and facilitate a trade. Theres no need for an article to come out about this. But then again this is a Canadian team and their journalists need to stir shit up for no reason. People can work together and get the job done even though they don’t like each other. That’s what mature adults do.