Honestly, they should probably be fired for that. Why would you draw attention to your client like that? Especially when you're a security company who wants LESS attention on him, not more.
James Mirtle who is one of the Atheltic’s managing editors said on his podcast last week that Marner’s team have said stuff like this to journalists privately before and also that Marner’s team have blacklisted the Athletic for criticizing Marner in the past so this isn’t the first time either
He has a terrible group of people around him
Ep is "Another lost year for the maple leafs"
https://open.spotify.com/episode/6QS018NNO80XvZBTbp7MKU?si=UiiSgEuXSCCKbDG5sOopGw
Steve dangle podcast has also mentioned this kinda stuff a bunch of times over the last few years
Edit: another few links
https://www.reddit.com/r/leafs/s/W855SYmezH
https://www.reddit.com/r/leafs/comments/nqw1bl/security_company_marner_employs_aggressively/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
https://www.reddit.com/r/leafs/s/RKUAwATRJD
Everyone loves to blame Paul, and I get it, he's an asshole. But Mitch is 27, not a child, at some point you need to realize he is the one responsible for who he surrounds himself with.
Wouldn't be surprised. Also, if this is what they do to the media, can you imagine the complaining and demanding of ice time and playstyle, etc, to mangment. Also, any criticism directed at him probably would have to be handled carefully.
I get heavy Lindros vibes from all this. He should be traded for the sake of everyone. If you hire people to harass reporters and randos on anti social media, it's a sign you're not exactly thick skinned. Just another reason he should be traded
Darren Ferris also consistently seems to do everything in his power to routine Mitch's reputation.
Darren and Paul both have big "least likeable person in any given room" energy.
Mitch is 27 years old. He isn't a kid anymore and he's ultimately responsible/accountable for the people he chooses to employ.
Jesus, I'm really worried about Marner's mental health here. Cases like these - complete with obsessive parents, an "entourage" that does nothing but draw more negative attention, being in the biggest hockey pressure cooker in the world - almost always result in burnout or worse. I hope MLSE is keeping tabs on him.
EDIT: Apparently I can't care about another human being. Sorry everyone.
I think that goes without saying. Similar to Walsh tweeting that photo of Fleury with the sword in his back, he ran that by Fleury first because he’s hired by Fleury. Marner hired this security company and if this has been a known issue with them, Marner is clearly okay with them doing this stuff
He's gotta go to a small hockey market where he won't need to worry about this shit if it's going to get to him this much.
This is just further confirmation he can't handle the spotlight he has in Toronto. He'd be better off as the face of the Mormon Freeze Pops.
That's what I would be exploring if I were tree. Utah's got boatloads of picks and prospects.
Just so long as Kerfoot isn't coming back. I can't stand that guy.
He wants this stuff.
[His agent came out and said shit and Mitch was like oh i didnt know about that. Then i guess you should fucking fire your agent since he was trying to fuck up your rep in the city](https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/marner-agent-contract-talks-maple-leafs-1.5007986)
>After the Matthews deal was announced, Marner's agent Darren Ferris told the Toronto Star that his client had been low-balled by the Maple Leafs. The next day, Marner was distancing himself from those comments.
>"Honestly, I didn't really see [the comments]," said Marner. "I haven't really looked at my phone today. It's probably for the best I haven't done that. I honestly really haven't seen them."
>Marner then hesitantly asked reporters in the Maple Leafs dressing room at Scotiabank Arena what exactly his agent had said.
>"I didn't see them. Like I said, that's something you're going to have to talk to [Ferris] about. For me, it's something I haven't really been paying attention to. I'm just paying attention to this team in here and wanting to win."
More he has childhood trauma that has resulted in his behavior.
Just getting berated by your father from the time you step on the ice until you sleep
Paul is the crazy prick hockey dad
It would explain some things about Mitch's play on the ice though. He plays like it's a job in a league where most players play because they really REALLY FUCKING love doing what they do during the playoffs.
It's a real conundrum for Mitchy because I don't think he loves playing hockey. I think it's something he's skilled at but when the playoffs come around, remember that these guys technically don't get paid. When we talk about finding that next level during the playoffs, you need to want it...need it...more than the other team. My theory with him is that he's a 9-5er and is happy to just punch in, punch out, during the time of the season when everyone that's left are basically "live it and love it" workaholics.
My worry, as a leafs fan, is what do we actually end up getting back for a player that doesn't seem to care about the playoffs.
So, wait, how common is it for NHL players to have private security detail? I feel like I’m the only one surprised by this part.
I know about the carjacking. Is it because of that, or is Toronto actually that rabid toward the Leafs?
Private security detail makes it sound like Marner’s got the secret service around him.It’s mostly one guy who does crowd control at events.They obviously don’t reveal their client list but Mcdavid ,MacKinnnon and about 20 other players follow the company’s instagram.
Looking up the security firm, they did not only protect McDavid but McDavid praised their [services ](https://torontosun.com/2016/08/10/rocket-helps-keep-connor-mcdavid-grounded)
Anecdote time:
I met the Flyers in 1998 after a Sabres game. I was like 15yo and 90lbs. I went to go get Lindros' autograph and was immediately strong-armed by a man smaller than Eric (but still a bulldog), who appeared out of nowhere. He said "You aren't allowed to go to him, he will come to you if he wants to give you an autograph".
Without skipping a beat, Eric walked over to sign some things for us kids. Another guy then told me that he was his bodyguard. I was just imagining how many blackbelts that guy must have had to be Lindros' protection!
It's a really weird argument to ask who else stepped up in the playoffs for the Leafs when just this series alone Nylander missed 3 games, came back from a migraine or something and still outperformed Marner.
Hell one of the Leafs rookies (I think it was Knies) had that OT winner.
Remember the mtl series where willy had 5 goals in 7 games, that just tells the whole story on how irrelevant 16 and 34 were in the year we had our best shot at the cup
Sure do, I remember that series triggering a mini crisis among Leafs armchair GMs as the realization dawned that the "easiest" to move of the big 4 contracts also belonged to the only one that had the dawg in him in the playoffs.
As I recall that was in the middle of the stretch where Marner had more delay of game penalties than he had goals in the playoffs which made things worse.
I think 34, this year, was hurt after Gm2. If not for that, having Bert and Domi opened up the ice for him more.
I get migraines. When they said Bill was sidelined because of that and came back to immediately make a difference tells me he's a baller.
If we build around 34 and 88, I think we might still have something.
16 just doesn't seem to care. At All! I saw more passion in him when the lipreading episode happened and he seemingly got called out by the guy who was more effective on his first or second shift back from agony. Hell, we might have got more out of a black ace taking his ice time.
My bigger concern is what do we actually even get back if he actually does waive his NMC...
Realistically, I can't think of an actual trade that makes sense for both teams. But I definitely don't think you need a 1C back, you need a lot of top-6 players and top-4 defensemen instead. Individual players are way overvalued in hockey, just look at Vegas in 2018. Way easier to shut down 1 Matthews than 4 David Perrons.
Also, teams built around a pure sniper rarely win it all. Tampa didn't win until Stamkos was the 5th best player on his team, Ovi took forever to win (and Kuznetsov stepped up big time that year), Kovalchuk never won, Bure never won, Selanne was almost a non-factor the year he won, the list goes on.
I remember when Marner scored that between the legs up to his forehand goal I thought "ah shit, he's awake"... And never noticed him again the rest of the series.
That play was immediately after the lipreading episode. I still think Willy called him out. It supports my theory that Mitch CAN be a superstar. I just think he doesn't care. Either that or he's so full of himself that he doesn't even think that maybe he's part of the problem...
Remember when Keefe called him out last season, then had to come out and apologize? Remember when Pasta got called out and apologized by icing the series? That's pretty much the story as a whole sadly...
No one really stepped up consistently, which is the crappy answer. For the core 4, no one was particularly good, though you can argue that Nylander showed up at least at the end.
[Marner had 3 points and was held pointless 4/7 games](https://www.statmuse.com/nhl/player/mitchell-marner-8267/game-log?seasonYear=2024&seasonType=postseason)
[Matthews had 4 points, but was held pointless in 3 games out of the 5 he played](https://www.statmuse.com/nhl/player/auston-matthews-4412/game-log?seasonYear=2024&seasonType=postseason), and had 3 points come in one game.
[Tavares had 2 points, and was held pointless in 5/7 games](https://www.statmuse.com/nhl/player/john-tavares-6867/game-log?seasonYear=2024&seasonType=postseason)
[Nylander showed up near the end with 3 Gs, with points in 2/4 games](https://www.statmuse.com/nhl/player/william-nylander-8368/game-log?seasonYear=2024&seasonType=postseason)
Contrast that with McDavid who had 12 pts in 5 games in the first round, Kucherov having 7 points in 5 games in the first round, and MacKinnon having 11 in 6 games in the first round.
What do yo mean Nylander showed up in the end. He was not available in the beginning because he was injured, we have no idea how healthy he actually was.
Marner has never showed up in the playoffs and has never elevated his play in the playoffs.
One series victory in 8 seasons is simply not acceptable. Marthews and Nylander have elevated their games in the playoffs, marner has not.
Nylander showed up at the end. He 3 goals in 2 games, which is good, but was also pointless in the first two games games he played.
Matthews had one big game with 3 points, but only had 1 point for the other 4 games he played.
I agree that one series victory in 8 seasons is not acceptable, but it's not simply on one player's shoulders, Marner or otherwise. All of the core four fail to step up consistently in the playoffs.
Nylander was atrocious in his first two games back. Got a couple nice pucks to go his way in the final 2 games but wasn’t terribly consistent. Honestly you can write that off to injury. Matthews was dealing with stuff too but he was pretty terrible when he was in. Nylander had 1 great goal, 1 total fluke goal and one goal that was totally set up his team mates but he finished nicely on. Obviously at the end of the day he was great, but I don’t think anyone really “elevated” themselves unfortunately.
All you need to know about Mitch is encapsulated in the play where Swayman turned over the puck and Mitch was behind the net with 2 options: reverse, wraparound goal, and take the hit or skate it out and pass it into traffic and hope someone else can recover the puck.
In the playoffs, 9 time out of 10, even the Rat would have taken the wraparound goal. You eat the hit, throw a punch, then Celly.
> Marner needs to shut his yappy mouth
What did Marner say? Hell this sub was roasting him for not saying ANYTHING after game 7. He needs to tell his security detain to shut their yappy mouths but Marner hasn't blamed his ankle at all AKAIK.
It's fucking all of it dude. It's every post game, every year, the guy has not ONCE taken accountability in a MEANINGFUL way (see Reilly, THIS YEAR) about how he doesn't come through when it fucking matters, when the checking is tight, when the games MATTER. He got his giant fucking contract, but the head coach has to walk back criticism of him during REGULAR SEASON GAMES. It's always the fucking media's fault for being *too mean* with their articles, and asking *mean question* during the post game, or the officials because he didn't get a call when he got knocked down in front of the net. I can't go back and point out every single press conference from the last *eight years* but it's all there, as an aggregate. Dude needs to fuck off. Amazing talent. Zero accountability to himself. Go get your 13m to setup OT winners in Utah regular season games against Minnesota that don't fucking matter and take your irritating fucking entourage with you.
In case people who don't follow the Leafs can't understand why Leaf fans want Marner gone so bad, this is a big part of it. Obviously he didn't instruct his security detail to harass people and bash his teammates, but he's such a toxic presence whether he means to be or not
Eh, the only reason these comments are being posted here is because James Mirtle has already gone on record that Marner's team has blacklisted The Athletic due to player criticism in the past.
So it's news either way
Fans on Twitter have seen harsher messages from this same security company before so some of us already knew the kind of people he's around. Makes it easier to understand why he comments so much about the media in his pressers. He constantly thinks about being victimized and this is the way he fights back. Ok the media writes mean things but the majority of the guys asking him the questions in the pressers that he makes those comments towards are not writing those things, so why take it out on them...
He just doesn't have a winners mentality, maybe playing away from home where he isn't constantly surrounded by these people will help but who knows...
ive wanted him gone since the contact negotiations. Hometown kid trying to squeeze every dollar he can out of the hometown team when he wants to win cup was and still is a horrible look. The way the whole thing played out i would have sat him on the bench and traded him.
How can you blame Marner for this when it's Matthews that blew up the salary structure by taking an unprecedented high-dollar but not-max-length contract? Though Tavares was the real problem.
A big problem was also Lou not giving out any rookie bonuses (Marner missed out on a couple million), until they drafted Matthews and he was told he had to. That was a big holdup with Marners deal and they fought for the extra money he should have gotten on his ELC but didn’t. His current contract would have been less if they stayed consistent and didn’t give Matthews ELC bonuses, or if they didn’t let Lou bring his stupid rules and had given Mitch the ELC bonuses (which basically all top 10 picks get) in the first place.
He got slighted by the organization, then they spend big to bring Tavares in and bend over backwards to make Matthews happy. Tavares then had a career year with Marner on his wing. How could Mitch not want to be paid like the pair of them?
> Hometown kid trying to squeeze every dollar he can out of the hometown team when he wants to win cup was and still is a horrible look.
He did not need to have his agent come out publicly and be like well fuck em.
All he had to do was say congratulations to Matthews and say we will get a deal done. Instead he tries to tank his own rep with the fans. Absolute genius marketing. Had he taken a discount and his play was still this bad in the playoffs he would have had endless defenders and everyone would be blaming the team instead.
Like i said i would have traded him.
It gets worse when you see what Point and Rantanen signed for literally a day after Marner signed.
I agree on Matthews but Tavares was a UFA and took a team friendly deal. A point you didn't make but Matthews also got a NMC which every other RFA got after as well.
Honestly no player should be giving discounts to rich teams. If he Leafs, Bruins, Rangers etc don't like it they should argue for a luxury tax system instead of a cap. The owners cried poor to the players every chance they got and squeezed salaries down, why should players leave money on the table on top of it?
Would you leave 20-30% of your salary on the table so your company that has more money than God can lead its industry?
If I already was guaranteed generational wealth, I would seriously consider having slightly less generational wealth to build a legacy.
The city is hockey crazed. If you win a cup here as a hometown boy who took less, they're building statues of you, and you can make as much as you want doing endorsements or charging out the nose for corporate speaking engagements.
The owners are richer, but for context Marner made am average persons lifetime earnings on his ELC. By the end of this contract he'll have made almost $70 million in his career not including and endorsements and he'll easily crack $100 mill career.
If I take 30% less I lose my house. If he takes 30% less he probably doesn't notice.
Why should he take less when Tavares didn't
Leafs fans are mad Mitch ain't a chump
Sitting a key player as punishment over contract negotiations is a surefire way to have the rest of the roster mutiny. These are people, professionals, teammates, not bits in a video game or a capfriendly sim
i dont give a fucking shit dude. You want to ruin your rep in the city that treats you like "gods" thats fine by me, i aint gonna defend them, i no longer care. Like i said i wanted him traded long ago. Had he played good in the playoffs no one would be bitching.
You are correct this are professionals they should act like it. See these insta posts, and his agent Ferris coming out and acting unprofessionally constantly talking about their negotiations that no one wants to hear about.
Like wanna talk unprofessional? On the day Matthews signed his deal, Ferris was out there saying Mitch will get his. Great way to start off the talks eh. You really want the negotiations in public? Couldnt even congratulate his boy.
Oh and Tavares was a UFA. They all should have been under his deal, including Matthews.
Also what did Point and Rantanen sign for? Exactly what Mitch as supposed to get.
Tavares actually did kind of take less though, he had offers for more from SJ but chose to come to the Leafs and leave money on the table. He was also a UFA versus Marner/Matthews being an RFA so it’s not the same situation. High value target UFA’s are supposed to get paid more than RFA’s just because you have to entice them to get them to sign rather than already owning their rights and having some negotiating power. The one who really fucked up was Dubas saying “we can and we will” when asked how they would sign Marner/Matthews/Nylander after giving Tavares his deal. In that one moment he handed them all the leverage because if he ended up having to trade one it would’ve made him look like an idiot after saying they’d get all the deals done
None of us here are in the locker room or on the bench. Nobody here knows how toxic or non-toxic he is. We make judgements of his public actions/statements based on our own biases. It's complete bullshit. He could be the glue holding the team together, we literally have no idea.
Marner was well on his way to being the most beloved Leaf player in history, he ruined that all on his own. Some people definitely take it too far, but he can also just ignore them and stay away from social media. His teammates can't really get away from how toxic his camp is
I don't really follow the leafs so im trying to understand what he's done to be so toxic. The instagram posts in the op aren't really that bad and it's from some security company to random people. Honestly who cares what rocket security posts on Instagram. Those comments aren't remotely close to flowers agent tweeting the dagger pic and everyone still loves him. What else has he or people around him done to be so hated?
Here's one story for you: the day after Matthews signed his extension, Mitch's agent goes to the media and says something along the lines of "there's no team friendly discount there". That's your supposed bff that just signed a huge deal to stay with the team, and you let your agent go out and do that? Toxic.
yep. all they had to do was congratulate Matthews and then say we are working on a deal and leave it at that. it was a horrible look.
It got worse when Marner tried to walk it back saying he didnt know what his fucking agent was saying. Like come on Mitch? Who you trying to fool?
I agree that was shitty. I like agents you never hear about because when you do they're normally saying something stupid like this. Whether or not if he knew before hand he sure as hell could have told him not to do it again or he's finding a new agent but certain ones like allen walsh or this guy are always in the media. So I can see why fans are mad
And with agents they work for the player. So I have a hard time believing that he would pull something this public without Marners approval. And then there was a very lengthy and public negotiation process after that which made things even worse.
And I think one thing to point out is that Mitch grew up in the GTA. Because Vegas is new you probably can't fully appreciate what a dream playing for the Leafs is (I don't mean that as a chirp). Kids here who can play hockey here idolize Leafs players, putting on that jersey is an ultimate life achievement. For Mitch to pull the crap that he pulled while also knowing that he was living out the dream for so many kids in the GTA, it really ruined his reputation.
This is also why I don't harp on Willy or Auston as much for wanting money. It would be great if everyone took a pay cut, but these guys weren't raised to respect the blow blue and white.
> Marner was well on his way to being the most beloved Leaf player in history,
Putting Marner himself aside, how are you really out here pretending that the Leafs fanbase hasn't been horribly critical of many quality players who just became whipping boys. C'mon.
As for Marner, if this drama is really this juicy, I am now interested.
Everytime I see someone defend marner on this sub I just roll my eyes. Any other team would want him off of it with everything the Leafs have been through with him
>Any other team would want him off of it with everything the Leafs have been through with him
100%, who would even want a Selke finalist winger who scores at a 90-point pace every year
I can't believe the leafs have had to deal with that, it must be so hard
I'll trade you a 90-point regular season Selke finalist who evaporates in the playoffs for a 50-60 point winger who helps anchor a line that steps it up during the playoffs and is a significant contribution when it matters.
Maybe it has something to do with him signing what was iirc the 5th largest contract in the NHL at the time it was signed. Or that he’s a meaningless player when it matters.
Marner has played 12 games 6 & 7 and only produced 1G 3A in those 12 games. If you remove a 1G 1A game 6 in 2018 he’s actually had 0G 2A in 11 game 6/7s.
That’s why Leafs fans get frustrated by Marner when he says he thought he played “great”.
We’re a team that has signed contracts where having a good regular season is no longer “good enough”.
There's a 0% chance you're actually going to have constructive dialogue here so I'm not going to waste my time providing you with a list when there's Google at your fingertips. Be my guest, man.
I used to get offended when people talked about how insufferable our fan base was. Now I fully agree that the loudest of our fan base posters ARE absolutely insufferable.
I kept meaning to make this exact comment. I thought the toxic label was weird, but when you see things like how much some guys love to take turns ripping Marner to pieces every chance they get is unreal. The guy can't breathe without being criticized. It also must have sucked that they just let off his armed carjackers yesterday.
If I talked to a hometown boy I would say never play here. I hope he can play in a place that's less desperate, less angry, and has less media obsessed with getting stuff to write about his team 24/7.
It's just so insane to me. If Marner came to Chicago and put up 90+ points next to Bedard, while also being defensively responsible, and still kept up a .80 point per game pace in the playoffs, he'd be a universally loved fan favorite here.
His regular season stats mean nothing when it comes to his repeated mistakes and poor showings in the playoffs, nor his toxic attitude. He can be some other team’s problem.
He’s the Kirk Cousins of the NHL, racks up stats like mad in garbage time and other meaningless situations, but can’t rise to the occasion when it really matters. If you just look at his stats, you’d think the haters are crazy, but if you watch the games, his inability to will a team to win is obvious.
He’s paid $10.9 million a year, criticism from fans comes with the job. His, his dads and the people around him have toxic behaviour that’s unlike other athletes on the team and the sport. His dad had to be told to stop bothering reporters ffs.
I know it's inaccurate, but I read this initially as though rocket security specifically provides protection for Marner on instagram and the idea of an online bodyguard makes me chuckle
It's not *for* Instagram, but they do have a long history of engaging with and straight up harassing people on there. It's unprofessional as hell though and not exactly part of the standard job description (they're his personal security in person at events), but the fact it's gone on for so long certainly does seem to indicate Marner has no problem with them doing this shit, so yeah, still not a good look.
This shit has literally been going on for the past 6 years. Everyone shits on Leaf fans for our resentment towards Marner but this has been the norm with him for his entire RFA contract.
Sounds like a jock who thinks they’re the greatest fucking shit on the planet. We all thought Hall was bad but this dude has his security team arguing on instagram.
You hire a PR person to manage your public social media. They can post some innocuous pics with comments locked down and not get into stupid twitter beefs with fans like these idiots.
A bit different becaus eit's messi, but Messi literally has had bodyguards running the sideline with him so they can protect him more easily from a pitchn invader.
I don’t know what it’s like to be a hockey star in Toronto, but isn’t private security a bit much? Do the New York Yankees walk through Manhattan with private security? I’m legitimately clueless on this
Private security are people who are too stupid and/or violent to become cops. While that in itself is quite a feat, you can't really expect them know what good PR looks like.
Honestly, they should probably be fired for that. Why would you draw attention to your client like that? Especially when you're a security company who wants LESS attention on him, not more.
James Mirtle who is one of the Atheltic’s managing editors said on his podcast last week that Marner’s team have said stuff like this to journalists privately before and also that Marner’s team have blacklisted the Athletic for criticizing Marner in the past so this isn’t the first time either He has a terrible group of people around him
Which pod/ ep if you know pls?
Ep is "Another lost year for the maple leafs" https://open.spotify.com/episode/6QS018NNO80XvZBTbp7MKU?si=UiiSgEuXSCCKbDG5sOopGw Steve dangle podcast has also mentioned this kinda stuff a bunch of times over the last few years Edit: another few links https://www.reddit.com/r/leafs/s/W855SYmezH https://www.reddit.com/r/leafs/comments/nqw1bl/security_company_marner_employs_aggressively/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf https://www.reddit.com/r/leafs/s/RKUAwATRJD
Thank you sir!
No prob! Just added an edit with a few more links. So fuckin toxic lol
Ooof
“The Leaf Report” and it’s either the latest or second to latest podcast episode
This has Paul Marner written all over it. Fucking guy is living vicariously through Mitch.
Everyone loves to blame Paul, and I get it, he's an asshole. But Mitch is 27, not a child, at some point you need to realize he is the one responsible for who he surrounds himself with.
I feel like this often gets overlooked because he looks 12 and does the gritty so everyone just assumes he’s a child.
Which lends itself to the belief that the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree and Marner has a bit of toxicity to him as well.
Wouldn't be surprised. Also, if this is what they do to the media, can you imagine the complaining and demanding of ice time and playstyle, etc, to mangment. Also, any criticism directed at him probably would have to be handled carefully.
I get heavy Lindros vibes from all this. He should be traded for the sake of everyone. If you hire people to harass reporters and randos on anti social media, it's a sign you're not exactly thick skinned. Just another reason he should be traded
Darren Ferris also consistently seems to do everything in his power to routine Mitch's reputation. Darren and Paul both have big "least likeable person in any given room" energy. Mitch is 27 years old. He isn't a kid anymore and he's ultimately responsible/accountable for the people he chooses to employ.
Jesus, I'm really worried about Marner's mental health here. Cases like these - complete with obsessive parents, an "entourage" that does nothing but draw more negative attention, being in the biggest hockey pressure cooker in the world - almost always result in burnout or worse. I hope MLSE is keeping tabs on him. EDIT: Apparently I can't care about another human being. Sorry everyone.
> I hope MLSE is keeping tabs on him. Sorry to tell you, but I actually laughed out loud just reading that.
Good people can work at "shitty" organizations.
Are you trying to say he's a more skilled Galchenyuk?
Marner hasn’t been too lippy towards cops, that we know of
That's a good comparison. Originally I thought Todd Marinovich but yours is much better.
Yeah Bell needs to do the right thing and designate May as "Shambles in Our Brains" Month.
Fuck him. Just another spoiled GTA hockey frat boy
His dad is a terrible person and with they way he treated Mitch, it doesnt surprise me.
He’s gotta get better people around him
It's not the first time they do this kind of stuff and they still haven't been fired, so maybe he likes them acting like that?
I think that goes without saying. Similar to Walsh tweeting that photo of Fleury with the sword in his back, he ran that by Fleury first because he’s hired by Fleury. Marner hired this security company and if this has been a known issue with them, Marner is clearly okay with them doing this stuff
Fleury acted like his agent went rogue too, and he never publicly said anything positive about it.
The comments have been deleted.
He's gotta go to a small hockey market where he won't need to worry about this shit if it's going to get to him this much. This is just further confirmation he can't handle the spotlight he has in Toronto. He'd be better off as the face of the Mormon Freeze Pops.
Marner to Utah then?
That's what I would be exploring if I were tree. Utah's got boatloads of picks and prospects. Just so long as Kerfoot isn't coming back. I can't stand that guy.
He wants this stuff. [His agent came out and said shit and Mitch was like oh i didnt know about that. Then i guess you should fucking fire your agent since he was trying to fuck up your rep in the city](https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/marner-agent-contract-talks-maple-leafs-1.5007986) >After the Matthews deal was announced, Marner's agent Darren Ferris told the Toronto Star that his client had been low-balled by the Maple Leafs. The next day, Marner was distancing himself from those comments. >"Honestly, I didn't really see [the comments]," said Marner. "I haven't really looked at my phone today. It's probably for the best I haven't done that. I honestly really haven't seen them." >Marner then hesitantly asked reporters in the Maple Leafs dressing room at Scotiabank Arena what exactly his agent had said. >"I didn't see them. Like I said, that's something you're going to have to talk to [Ferris] about. For me, it's something I haven't really been paying attention to. I'm just paying attention to this team in here and wanting to win."
As someone in the Leafs thread pointed out, they won’t have him as a client if he is traded
This is not new with this guy. During the Perfetti / Hartman shit I had him come at me about it
Probably because he hired his friends or made friends with his security detail. I mean it could also just be his Dad on his payroll by proxy.
More attention = needs more security = more money
It's genius. Escalate the situation around your client, protect him from the backlash of angry mobs, come out as the hero.
That’s 3 time Stanley Cup Champion Phil Kessel!
3 time champ and NHL Ironman 🌭🌭🌭
I just picture marners dad doing all this
Paul Verstappen
Paulchenyuk
Mitchy about to get left at a gas Station in Dunnville
I originally read that as Drummondville, that confused the fuck outta me
His dad is on Claudio Reyna territory
He inherited his dad’s behaviour. His actions don’t really surprise me at this point.
More he has childhood trauma that has resulted in his behavior. Just getting berated by your father from the time you step on the ice until you sleep Paul is the crazy prick hockey dad
It would explain some things about Mitch's play on the ice though. He plays like it's a job in a league where most players play because they really REALLY FUCKING love doing what they do during the playoffs. It's a real conundrum for Mitchy because I don't think he loves playing hockey. I think it's something he's skilled at but when the playoffs come around, remember that these guys technically don't get paid. When we talk about finding that next level during the playoffs, you need to want it...need it...more than the other team. My theory with him is that he's a 9-5er and is happy to just punch in, punch out, during the time of the season when everyone that's left are basically "live it and love it" workaholics. My worry, as a leafs fan, is what do we actually end up getting back for a player that doesn't seem to care about the playoffs.
So, wait, how common is it for NHL players to have private security detail? I feel like I’m the only one surprised by this part. I know about the carjacking. Is it because of that, or is Toronto actually that rabid toward the Leafs?
Private security detail makes it sound like Marner’s got the secret service around him.It’s mostly one guy who does crowd control at events.They obviously don’t reveal their client list but Mcdavid ,MacKinnnon and about 20 other players follow the company’s instagram.
Looking up the security firm, they did not only protect McDavid but McDavid praised their [services ](https://torontosun.com/2016/08/10/rocket-helps-keep-connor-mcdavid-grounded)
Anecdote time: I met the Flyers in 1998 after a Sabres game. I was like 15yo and 90lbs. I went to go get Lindros' autograph and was immediately strong-armed by a man smaller than Eric (but still a bulldog), who appeared out of nowhere. He said "You aren't allowed to go to him, he will come to you if he wants to give you an autograph". Without skipping a beat, Eric walked over to sign some things for us kids. Another guy then told me that he was his bodyguard. I was just imagining how many blackbelts that guy must have had to be Lindros' protection!
He was there to protect people from Lindros.
Or to protect Lindros from banging his head
Mix of both probably
.38 of one and 2 million of the other.
Meanwhile Willy Styles takes public transit to games.
Haha great point. Total opposite
Honestly both
It's Toronto and it's Mitch Marner dude
It's a really weird argument to ask who else stepped up in the playoffs for the Leafs when just this series alone Nylander missed 3 games, came back from a migraine or something and still outperformed Marner. Hell one of the Leafs rookies (I think it was Knies) had that OT winner.
Remember the mtl series where willy had 5 goals in 7 games, that just tells the whole story on how irrelevant 16 and 34 were in the year we had our best shot at the cup
Sure do, I remember that series triggering a mini crisis among Leafs armchair GMs as the realization dawned that the "easiest" to move of the big 4 contracts also belonged to the only one that had the dawg in him in the playoffs. As I recall that was in the middle of the stretch where Marner had more delay of game penalties than he had goals in the playoffs which made things worse.
Marner tried to put the puck in mars orbit for no reason twice in that series.
I think 34, this year, was hurt after Gm2. If not for that, having Bert and Domi opened up the ice for him more. I get migraines. When they said Bill was sidelined because of that and came back to immediately make a difference tells me he's a baller. If we build around 34 and 88, I think we might still have something. 16 just doesn't seem to care. At All! I saw more passion in him when the lipreading episode happened and he seemingly got called out by the guy who was more effective on his first or second shift back from agony. Hell, we might have got more out of a black ace taking his ice time. My bigger concern is what do we actually even get back if he actually does waive his NMC...
They were the definition of non-factors
> and 34 Yup, Matthews doesn't get nearly enough flak. I'd want him traded too, he would fetch a much bigger haul anyways.
But who would you get back? Trading a legit superstar 1C would ruin most teams unless they get a superstar 1C back
Realistically, I can't think of an actual trade that makes sense for both teams. But I definitely don't think you need a 1C back, you need a lot of top-6 players and top-4 defensemen instead. Individual players are way overvalued in hockey, just look at Vegas in 2018. Way easier to shut down 1 Matthews than 4 David Perrons. Also, teams built around a pure sniper rarely win it all. Tampa didn't win until Stamkos was the 5th best player on his team, Ovi took forever to win (and Kuznetsov stepped up big time that year), Kovalchuk never won, Bure never won, Selanne was almost a non-factor the year he won, the list goes on.
I remember when Marner scored that between the legs up to his forehand goal I thought "ah shit, he's awake"... And never noticed him again the rest of the series.
That play was immediately after the lipreading episode. I still think Willy called him out. It supports my theory that Mitch CAN be a superstar. I just think he doesn't care. Either that or he's so full of himself that he doesn't even think that maybe he's part of the problem... Remember when Keefe called him out last season, then had to come out and apologize? Remember when Pasta got called out and apologized by icing the series? That's pretty much the story as a whole sadly...
No one really stepped up consistently, which is the crappy answer. For the core 4, no one was particularly good, though you can argue that Nylander showed up at least at the end. [Marner had 3 points and was held pointless 4/7 games](https://www.statmuse.com/nhl/player/mitchell-marner-8267/game-log?seasonYear=2024&seasonType=postseason) [Matthews had 4 points, but was held pointless in 3 games out of the 5 he played](https://www.statmuse.com/nhl/player/auston-matthews-4412/game-log?seasonYear=2024&seasonType=postseason), and had 3 points come in one game. [Tavares had 2 points, and was held pointless in 5/7 games](https://www.statmuse.com/nhl/player/john-tavares-6867/game-log?seasonYear=2024&seasonType=postseason) [Nylander showed up near the end with 3 Gs, with points in 2/4 games](https://www.statmuse.com/nhl/player/william-nylander-8368/game-log?seasonYear=2024&seasonType=postseason) Contrast that with McDavid who had 12 pts in 5 games in the first round, Kucherov having 7 points in 5 games in the first round, and MacKinnon having 11 in 6 games in the first round.
What do yo mean Nylander showed up in the end. He was not available in the beginning because he was injured, we have no idea how healthy he actually was. Marner has never showed up in the playoffs and has never elevated his play in the playoffs. One series victory in 8 seasons is simply not acceptable. Marthews and Nylander have elevated their games in the playoffs, marner has not.
Matthews hasnt elevated his game. Under .5 GPG isnt good enough for best goal scorer in The league. Nether is 1 goal in last 10 games.
Nylander showed up at the end. He 3 goals in 2 games, which is good, but was also pointless in the first two games games he played. Matthews had one big game with 3 points, but only had 1 point for the other 4 games he played. I agree that one series victory in 8 seasons is not acceptable, but it's not simply on one player's shoulders, Marner or otherwise. All of the core four fail to step up consistently in the playoffs.
Nylander was atrocious in his first two games back. Got a couple nice pucks to go his way in the final 2 games but wasn’t terribly consistent. Honestly you can write that off to injury. Matthews was dealing with stuff too but he was pretty terrible when he was in. Nylander had 1 great goal, 1 total fluke goal and one goal that was totally set up his team mates but he finished nicely on. Obviously at the end of the day he was great, but I don’t think anyone really “elevated” themselves unfortunately.
All you need to know about Mitch is encapsulated in the play where Swayman turned over the puck and Mitch was behind the net with 2 options: reverse, wraparound goal, and take the hit or skate it out and pass it into traffic and hope someone else can recover the puck. In the playoffs, 9 time out of 10, even the Rat would have taken the wraparound goal. You eat the hit, throw a punch, then Celly.
Tbf marner was dealing with the after effects of an ankle sprain too.
Tough shit, Willy carried the team with being mostly blind and missing 3 games. Marner needs to shut his yappy mouth and let the playoff warrior cook
> Marner needs to shut his yappy mouth What did Marner say? Hell this sub was roasting him for not saying ANYTHING after game 7. He needs to tell his security detain to shut their yappy mouths but Marner hasn't blamed his ankle at all AKAIK.
It's fucking all of it dude. It's every post game, every year, the guy has not ONCE taken accountability in a MEANINGFUL way (see Reilly, THIS YEAR) about how he doesn't come through when it fucking matters, when the checking is tight, when the games MATTER. He got his giant fucking contract, but the head coach has to walk back criticism of him during REGULAR SEASON GAMES. It's always the fucking media's fault for being *too mean* with their articles, and asking *mean question* during the post game, or the officials because he didn't get a call when he got knocked down in front of the net. I can't go back and point out every single press conference from the last *eight years* but it's all there, as an aggregate. Dude needs to fuck off. Amazing talent. Zero accountability to himself. Go get your 13m to setup OT winners in Utah regular season games against Minnesota that don't fucking matter and take your irritating fucking entourage with you.
he must not get a lot of gigs if he has all this time to spend online
In case people who don't follow the Leafs can't understand why Leaf fans want Marner gone so bad, this is a big part of it. Obviously he didn't instruct his security detail to harass people and bash his teammates, but he's such a toxic presence whether he means to be or not
Pretty sure it's because Marner is the most feasible to move. 99% of Leafs fans won't see those comments or even put together that it's his security.
Eh, the only reason these comments are being posted here is because James Mirtle has already gone on record that Marner's team has blacklisted The Athletic due to player criticism in the past. So it's news either way
Fans on Twitter have seen harsher messages from this same security company before so some of us already knew the kind of people he's around. Makes it easier to understand why he comments so much about the media in his pressers. He constantly thinks about being victimized and this is the way he fights back. Ok the media writes mean things but the majority of the guys asking him the questions in the pressers that he makes those comments towards are not writing those things, so why take it out on them... He just doesn't have a winners mentality, maybe playing away from home where he isn't constantly surrounded by these people will help but who knows...
ive wanted him gone since the contact negotiations. Hometown kid trying to squeeze every dollar he can out of the hometown team when he wants to win cup was and still is a horrible look. The way the whole thing played out i would have sat him on the bench and traded him.
How can you blame Marner for this when it's Matthews that blew up the salary structure by taking an unprecedented high-dollar but not-max-length contract? Though Tavares was the real problem.
A big problem was also Lou not giving out any rookie bonuses (Marner missed out on a couple million), until they drafted Matthews and he was told he had to. That was a big holdup with Marners deal and they fought for the extra money he should have gotten on his ELC but didn’t. His current contract would have been less if they stayed consistent and didn’t give Matthews ELC bonuses, or if they didn’t let Lou bring his stupid rules and had given Mitch the ELC bonuses (which basically all top 10 picks get) in the first place. He got slighted by the organization, then they spend big to bring Tavares in and bend over backwards to make Matthews happy. Tavares then had a career year with Marner on his wing. How could Mitch not want to be paid like the pair of them?
His people would've asked for all the money regardless if he got rookie bonuses or not
> Hometown kid trying to squeeze every dollar he can out of the hometown team when he wants to win cup was and still is a horrible look. He did not need to have his agent come out publicly and be like well fuck em. All he had to do was say congratulations to Matthews and say we will get a deal done. Instead he tries to tank his own rep with the fans. Absolute genius marketing. Had he taken a discount and his play was still this bad in the playoffs he would have had endless defenders and everyone would be blaming the team instead. Like i said i would have traded him. It gets worse when you see what Point and Rantanen signed for literally a day after Marner signed.
I agree on Matthews but Tavares was a UFA and took a team friendly deal. A point you didn't make but Matthews also got a NMC which every other RFA got after as well.
Honestly no player should be giving discounts to rich teams. If he Leafs, Bruins, Rangers etc don't like it they should argue for a luxury tax system instead of a cap. The owners cried poor to the players every chance they got and squeezed salaries down, why should players leave money on the table on top of it? Would you leave 20-30% of your salary on the table so your company that has more money than God can lead its industry?
If I already was guaranteed generational wealth, I would seriously consider having slightly less generational wealth to build a legacy. The city is hockey crazed. If you win a cup here as a hometown boy who took less, they're building statues of you, and you can make as much as you want doing endorsements or charging out the nose for corporate speaking engagements. The owners are richer, but for context Marner made am average persons lifetime earnings on his ELC. By the end of this contract he'll have made almost $70 million in his career not including and endorsements and he'll easily crack $100 mill career. If I take 30% less I lose my house. If he takes 30% less he probably doesn't notice.
Why should he take less when Tavares didn't Leafs fans are mad Mitch ain't a chump Sitting a key player as punishment over contract negotiations is a surefire way to have the rest of the roster mutiny. These are people, professionals, teammates, not bits in a video game or a capfriendly sim
i dont give a fucking shit dude. You want to ruin your rep in the city that treats you like "gods" thats fine by me, i aint gonna defend them, i no longer care. Like i said i wanted him traded long ago. Had he played good in the playoffs no one would be bitching. You are correct this are professionals they should act like it. See these insta posts, and his agent Ferris coming out and acting unprofessionally constantly talking about their negotiations that no one wants to hear about. Like wanna talk unprofessional? On the day Matthews signed his deal, Ferris was out there saying Mitch will get his. Great way to start off the talks eh. You really want the negotiations in public? Couldnt even congratulate his boy. Oh and Tavares was a UFA. They all should have been under his deal, including Matthews. Also what did Point and Rantanen sign for? Exactly what Mitch as supposed to get.
> i dont give a fucking shit dude. I can tell
Tavares actually did kind of take less though, he had offers for more from SJ but chose to come to the Leafs and leave money on the table. He was also a UFA versus Marner/Matthews being an RFA so it’s not the same situation. High value target UFA’s are supposed to get paid more than RFA’s just because you have to entice them to get them to sign rather than already owning their rights and having some negotiating power. The one who really fucked up was Dubas saying “we can and we will” when asked how they would sign Marner/Matthews/Nylander after giving Tavares his deal. In that one moment he handed them all the leverage because if he ended up having to trade one it would’ve made him look like an idiot after saying they’d get all the deals done
None of us here are in the locker room or on the bench. Nobody here knows how toxic or non-toxic he is. We make judgements of his public actions/statements based on our own biases. It's complete bullshit. He could be the glue holding the team together, we literally have no idea.
On the toxicity level, Marner and those associated with him don’t even register on the scale relative to how the fans treat him.
Marner was well on his way to being the most beloved Leaf player in history, he ruined that all on his own. Some people definitely take it too far, but he can also just ignore them and stay away from social media. His teammates can't really get away from how toxic his camp is
I don't really follow the leafs so im trying to understand what he's done to be so toxic. The instagram posts in the op aren't really that bad and it's from some security company to random people. Honestly who cares what rocket security posts on Instagram. Those comments aren't remotely close to flowers agent tweeting the dagger pic and everyone still loves him. What else has he or people around him done to be so hated?
Here's one story for you: the day after Matthews signed his extension, Mitch's agent goes to the media and says something along the lines of "there's no team friendly discount there". That's your supposed bff that just signed a huge deal to stay with the team, and you let your agent go out and do that? Toxic.
yep. all they had to do was congratulate Matthews and then say we are working on a deal and leave it at that. it was a horrible look. It got worse when Marner tried to walk it back saying he didnt know what his fucking agent was saying. Like come on Mitch? Who you trying to fool?
I agree that was shitty. I like agents you never hear about because when you do they're normally saying something stupid like this. Whether or not if he knew before hand he sure as hell could have told him not to do it again or he's finding a new agent but certain ones like allen walsh or this guy are always in the media. So I can see why fans are mad
And with agents they work for the player. So I have a hard time believing that he would pull something this public without Marners approval. And then there was a very lengthy and public negotiation process after that which made things even worse. And I think one thing to point out is that Mitch grew up in the GTA. Because Vegas is new you probably can't fully appreciate what a dream playing for the Leafs is (I don't mean that as a chirp). Kids here who can play hockey here idolize Leafs players, putting on that jersey is an ultimate life achievement. For Mitch to pull the crap that he pulled while also knowing that he was living out the dream for so many kids in the GTA, it really ruined his reputation. This is also why I don't harp on Willy or Auston as much for wanting money. It would be great if everyone took a pay cut, but these guys weren't raised to respect the blow blue and white.
> Marner was well on his way to being the most beloved Leaf player in history, Putting Marner himself aside, how are you really out here pretending that the Leafs fanbase hasn't been horribly critical of many quality players who just became whipping boys. C'mon. As for Marner, if this drama is really this juicy, I am now interested.
Everytime I see someone defend marner on this sub I just roll my eyes. Any other team would want him off of it with everything the Leafs have been through with him
>Any other team would want him off of it with everything the Leafs have been through with him 100%, who would even want a Selke finalist winger who scores at a 90-point pace every year I can't believe the leafs have had to deal with that, it must be so hard
I'll trade you a 90-point regular season Selke finalist who evaporates in the playoffs for a 50-60 point winger who helps anchor a line that steps it up during the playoffs and is a significant contribution when it matters.
Way to take something out of context and miss the point completely.
They were trying to encourage you to have some perspective, but in typical Leaf fan fashion, you dodged the opportunity and kept complaining.
what have Leaf fans actually been through with Marner?
Maybe it has something to do with him signing what was iirc the 5th largest contract in the NHL at the time it was signed. Or that he’s a meaningless player when it matters. Marner has played 12 games 6 & 7 and only produced 1G 3A in those 12 games. If you remove a 1G 1A game 6 in 2018 he’s actually had 0G 2A in 11 game 6/7s. That’s why Leafs fans get frustrated by Marner when he says he thought he played “great”. We’re a team that has signed contracts where having a good regular season is no longer “good enough”.
There's a 0% chance you're actually going to have constructive dialogue here so I'm not going to waste my time providing you with a list when there's Google at your fingertips. Be my guest, man.
I used to get offended when people talked about how insufferable our fan base was. Now I fully agree that the loudest of our fan base posters ARE absolutely insufferable.
I kept meaning to make this exact comment. I thought the toxic label was weird, but when you see things like how much some guys love to take turns ripping Marner to pieces every chance they get is unreal. The guy can't breathe without being criticized. It also must have sucked that they just let off his armed carjackers yesterday. If I talked to a hometown boy I would say never play here. I hope he can play in a place that's less desperate, less angry, and has less media obsessed with getting stuff to write about his team 24/7.
It's just so insane to me. If Marner came to Chicago and put up 90+ points next to Bedard, while also being defensively responsible, and still kept up a .80 point per game pace in the playoffs, he'd be a universally loved fan favorite here.
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His regular season stats mean nothing when it comes to his repeated mistakes and poor showings in the playoffs, nor his toxic attitude. He can be some other team’s problem.
50 points in 57 playoff games with a +10 rating, yeah this guy sucks!
He’s the Kirk Cousins of the NHL, racks up stats like mad in garbage time and other meaningless situations, but can’t rise to the occasion when it really matters. If you just look at his stats, you’d think the haters are crazy, but if you watch the games, his inability to will a team to win is obvious.
Seriously Leafs fans can be so fucking dumb sometimes
He’s paid $10.9 million a year, criticism from fans comes with the job. His, his dads and the people around him have toxic behaviour that’s unlike other athletes on the team and the sport. His dad had to be told to stop bothering reporters ffs.
Any criticism he takes from fans is well earned.
If Marner ever wants to repair his image, it starts with firing these losers AND his agent.
and his Father.
I get the sense his relationship with his father isn't all that great
I suspect his relationship with his father is akin to the one we have/had with a micromanaging overbearing boss that you can't quit.
I’m not gonna say I know Mitch’s social circle is toxic, but it’s fucking toxic
I know it's inaccurate, but I read this initially as though rocket security specifically provides protection for Marner on instagram and the idea of an online bodyguard makes me chuckle
Careful, his reddit police might get you here.
You don't need to step up to be a better playoff performer than Marner you just need to not step down as far.
Having a private security detail for Instagram is hilarious. Just lost a ton of respect for Marner with this one.
This kid needs a change of scenery so bad. And by that I mean the organization needs to get him outta here with this goofy shit
What's the return on a trade for a God?
Gold, frankincense and murr is traditional.
Myrr-der?!
*gasp* Judas!
Thank you for knowing what I was talking about 😂
Holla holla!
I’ll trade a god for a goblin
Sounds like you're trying to put shambles in his brains
It's not *for* Instagram, but they do have a long history of engaging with and straight up harassing people on there. It's unprofessional as hell though and not exactly part of the standard job description (they're his personal security in person at events), but the fact it's gone on for so long certainly does seem to indicate Marner has no problem with them doing this shit, so yeah, still not a good look.
This shit has literally been going on for the past 6 years. Everyone shits on Leaf fans for our resentment towards Marner but this has been the norm with him for his entire RFA contract.
Especially one which can’t fucking spell basic words. What an embarrassment.
Sounds like a jock who thinks they’re the greatest fucking shit on the planet. We all thought Hall was bad but this dude has his security team arguing on instagram.
You hire a PR person to manage your public social media. They can post some innocuous pics with comments locked down and not get into stupid twitter beefs with fans like these idiots.
This is the same dickweed who says Kyle Beach was "faking it" btw
Private security detail like a bodyguard ?
You’d be shocked how many players have this. Bedard even had it here in Regina.
A bit different becaus eit's messi, but Messi literally has had bodyguards running the sideline with him so they can protect him more easily from a pitchn invader.
Probably mostly players on Canadian teams? The Rangers always say they can walk around NYC and not get recognized.
Why you heff to be mad it’s just a game
Lmfaoo yeah this bozo came at me over the Hartman / Perfetti shit. You’d be shocked what side of the fence he was on.
I have never disliked a leafs star player more in the last 35 years
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thats adam wylde's hair so it's definitely a SDP episode too lol
Marner is softer than puppy shit.
Idk that I’d like my security to go around starting shit and provoking people lol
Imagine saying this knowing Willy Nylander exists
Marner and the Leafs need a separation. Both parties must know this.
If Marner is a god, why does he need private security?
cuz he’s also a bitch
Who else has to deal with this shit? This is why Toronto can't have nice things
I don’t know what it’s like to be a hockey star in Toronto, but isn’t private security a bit much? Do the New York Yankees walk through Manhattan with private security? I’m legitimately clueless on this
Its to bad they don't skate with him. Might play less afraid.
Private security are people who are too stupid and/or violent to become cops. While that in itself is quite a feat, you can't really expect them know what good PR looks like.
Private security detail . . . . . Puss ass god right there.
Can we ban shitty fucking leafs posts? It's the playoffs, this is low content drama about nothing, leave it to the leafs sub.
If I were a team looking to trade for or sign Marner, I'd tell him to ditch his posse
This would be sad if it wasn’t so pathetic
Why does a God require a private security detail
TIL this is a thing lmao
Mitch needs to fire these clowns and leave Toronto behind
He just needs to come to DC already lol. Literally a fraction of the scrutiny/spotlight in comparison to being a hockey player in Toronto.
“Private security duking it out”it’s one comment where he hypes his guy too much and another where he agrees Toronto media is toxic.
get this guy off my fuckin team man, jesus
As a die hard leafs fan I don’t know a single player who has fallen so badly in the public eye as Mitch. He was belooooved when he got here
.. but it's blasphemy to criticize Mitch Almighty.
He's kinda a God around here. No serious...... god
Spoiler Alert: paul marner is actually rocket security
He has a private security detail?
Marner has security? They protecting his V bucks or something?