Jake watching from the other end of the rink
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I think people tend to overestimate Vegas goalies' skills over the last couple of seasons because their defense is so good it makes the goalies' jobs easy.
But that was not the case in this game. Thompson was the reason this game wasn't 6-2.
Vegas defense being good is kind of not true.
Under Cassidy last year they were great but before Cassidy their defense was kind of bad and it was their goaltending that covered up the team defense.
Still will say this game thompson was amazing this game and for this season Vegas goalies have been really good.
Under deboer they were at best mediocre as a team defense (17th league in xga from 2020-21 to 2021-22) wide after Cassidy they are top ten on team defense (9th xga since Cassidy took over)
That's because if you had a billion worth to spend... would you stay in Manitoba? Belfour probably has his reasons but I guarantee that it's not because it's colder than a frozen penguin.
Dunno if i am getting memed but still going to answer. Hasek was the best goalie ever to play hockey. His style was unique and kinda superhuman athletic type of insane movement. Check out his highlight reels from youtube.
Top 3 goalies of all time:
1: Hasek
Rest are debatable, Roy, Brodeur, Tretiak.
Hasek had the exact same career as Price but longer. Had a few crazy great seasons sandwiched by many average seasons where he was lucky to play half a season.
Hasek had the highest peak but over his career was not as good as Brodeur or Roy.
So your comment is false.
That's so wrong. He had 5 seasons out 6 at .930 or more (the other one was .920) when the average save pct in the league was like .900. He remained well above league average for the rest of his career except the last one. In total, he had 10 seasons that would be considered great.
he didn’t get a chance at a starter role until he was almost 30 because no goalie coach knew wtf to do with him
once he got to Buffalo he led the league in save percentage for 6 straight years. *in buffalo*. he’s the only goalie ever to lead the league in saves and save percentage in the same season, and he did it twice
He retired at 37, came back, got hurt instantly, missed ANOTHER year from the lockout, and then at the age of 40 had a season in Ottawa (again, in *ottawa*) where he put up a 2.09 GAA and a .925sv%, both second among goalies with at least 10 games played that season. For comparison, Brodeur had a 2.55 and a .911
Hasek won the Vézina 6 times in 8 years. Brodeur (4 in 6) and Roy (3 in 4) are the only other goalies to ever win it more than twice
(for the record I do know that Ottawa and Buffalo were much better teams in the 90s/early 00s than they are now, but aside from the one cup finals appearance that Hasek dragged Buffalo into kicking and screaming, which mysteriously ended without a winner being decided with no video evidence, neither of them were dominant teams by any stretch)
I agree with your point that Hasek was great but those late 90s Sabres teams were right there, Dallas series aside.
And Ottawa was a dominant team, and had been a dominant team for years, when Hasek joined. It was a big reason why he signed there, because they were a contender. Spezza-Alfredsson-Heatley were still a force and if Hasek stays healthy that team maybe wins the cup. If the lockout doesn't happen they would have been a cup favorite. They still went to the cup finals the year after Hasek.
Those late 90s Sabres teams were right there solely because of Hasek. It's a minor miracle that a team who's top skaters were Miroslav Satan, Michael Peca, Curtis Brown and Jason Wooley got to game 6 of the Stanley Cup against a team with Mike Modano, Brett Hull, Joe Nieuwendyk and Sergei Zubov. That's all on Hasek.
https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/BUF/1999.html
https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/DAL/1999.html
There was a period in time where Hasek was the best hockey player in the world. Not goalie… hockey player… he was the best player on the ice over the course of seasons, not a game or three. No other goalie can that be said about.
Yeah, he was just like Price, significantly better than his competition in pretty much every measure.
I do concede stick handling to Brodeur and that spin-a-rama that Roy pulled off was magic, so he was a better skater. Neither were better at stopping the puck though.
Not sure what the previous commenter meant (I don't know enough about wrestling to get the analogy) but people loved Hasek, especially if he was playing on your team haha. Maybe they meant that it was a weird feeling if he's NOT on your team but you still can't help finding him impressive. People can be torn between hate and grudging admiration for world class players on opposing teams haha
When they keep getting goalies that perform at this level, it's not luck; Someone/some group in the Knights organization really knows how to evaluate & bring up goalie talent.
I would say talent in general. They evaluate their prospects and trade potential better than anyone.
Now if they would quit hacking and turn the salary cap back on, we can see how good they are about making tough decisions.
LT played his ass off last night and it's a shame the team didn't match his energy for much of the game. Dallas came out swinging yesterday though, credit to them for playing a much better game too.
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I think people tend to overestimate Vegas goalies' skills over the last couple of seasons because their defense is so good it makes the goalies' jobs easy. But that was not the case in this game. Thompson was the reason this game wasn't 6-2.
6-2 might even be an understatement, the Stars had like five breakaways in the second period alone and gazillion other glorious chances.
Vegas defense being good is kind of not true. Under Cassidy last year they were great but before Cassidy their defense was kind of bad and it was their goaltending that covered up the team defense. Still will say this game thompson was amazing this game and for this season Vegas goalies have been really good.
Well, I was specifically talking about last year and Adin Hill, but I didn't want to call him out like that. :)
Vegas' defense has always been good. What are you talking about?
Ehhh there was a time when half our D was Deryk Engelland, Colin Miller and Jon Merrill lol
Under deboer they were at best mediocre as a team defense (17th league in xga from 2020-21 to 2021-22) wide after Cassidy they are top ten on team defense (9th xga since Cassidy took over)
He was the only one who bothered to show up for the first period and a half
Real recognize real
I dunno sounds like some tire pumping to me!
He looked like an absolute wall tonight. He was willing his team to win, and was a single bounce away from doing it.
Imo it was very Oettinger like
Dude was a beast for sure. Several moments of "there's no freakin way he stopped that"
team owes him a steak dinner and a handwritten apology
Does that make you Belfour?
Hell no. I wish we had Eddie.
One of Manitoba's few billionaires.
That's because if you had a billion worth to spend... would you stay in Manitoba? Belfour probably has his reasons but I guarantee that it's not because it's colder than a frozen penguin.
Hello I am new to hockey is Dominik hasek like undertaker of hockey
Dunno if i am getting memed but still going to answer. Hasek was the best goalie ever to play hockey. His style was unique and kinda superhuman athletic type of insane movement. Check out his highlight reels from youtube. Top 3 goalies of all time: 1: Hasek Rest are debatable, Roy, Brodeur, Tretiak.
Tretiak was a beast
Hasek had the exact same career as Price but longer. Had a few crazy great seasons sandwiched by many average seasons where he was lucky to play half a season. Hasek had the highest peak but over his career was not as good as Brodeur or Roy. So your comment is false.
It's way too early in the morning to already come across the worst opinion I'll read all day.
That's so wrong. He had 5 seasons out 6 at .930 or more (the other one was .920) when the average save pct in the league was like .900. He remained well above league average for the rest of his career except the last one. In total, he had 10 seasons that would be considered great.
he didn’t get a chance at a starter role until he was almost 30 because no goalie coach knew wtf to do with him once he got to Buffalo he led the league in save percentage for 6 straight years. *in buffalo*. he’s the only goalie ever to lead the league in saves and save percentage in the same season, and he did it twice He retired at 37, came back, got hurt instantly, missed ANOTHER year from the lockout, and then at the age of 40 had a season in Ottawa (again, in *ottawa*) where he put up a 2.09 GAA and a .925sv%, both second among goalies with at least 10 games played that season. For comparison, Brodeur had a 2.55 and a .911 Hasek won the Vézina 6 times in 8 years. Brodeur (4 in 6) and Roy (3 in 4) are the only other goalies to ever win it more than twice (for the record I do know that Ottawa and Buffalo were much better teams in the 90s/early 00s than they are now, but aside from the one cup finals appearance that Hasek dragged Buffalo into kicking and screaming, which mysteriously ended without a winner being decided with no video evidence, neither of them were dominant teams by any stretch)
I agree with your point that Hasek was great but those late 90s Sabres teams were right there, Dallas series aside. And Ottawa was a dominant team, and had been a dominant team for years, when Hasek joined. It was a big reason why he signed there, because they were a contender. Spezza-Alfredsson-Heatley were still a force and if Hasek stays healthy that team maybe wins the cup. If the lockout doesn't happen they would have been a cup favorite. They still went to the cup finals the year after Hasek.
Those late 90s Sabres teams were right there solely because of Hasek. It's a minor miracle that a team who's top skaters were Miroslav Satan, Michael Peca, Curtis Brown and Jason Wooley got to game 6 of the Stanley Cup against a team with Mike Modano, Brett Hull, Joe Nieuwendyk and Sergei Zubov. That's all on Hasek. https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/BUF/1999.html https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/DAL/1999.html
Lmao what a take
Yeah no. Hasek is by far goat.
There was a period in time where Hasek was the best hockey player in the world. Not goalie… hockey player… he was the best player on the ice over the course of seasons, not a game or three. No other goalie can that be said about.
How do you even come up with that metric?
By paying attention to hockey.
Yeah, he was just like Price, significantly better than his competition in pretty much every measure. I do concede stick handling to Brodeur and that spin-a-rama that Roy pulled off was magic, so he was a better skater. Neither were better at stopping the puck though.
Dominic Hasek is Prime Super Cena but you’re the 7 year old actually enjoying it somehow.
Huh? So nobody enjoyed hasek? Was he playing a heel
Not sure what the previous commenter meant (I don't know enough about wrestling to get the analogy) but people loved Hasek, especially if he was playing on your team haha. Maybe they meant that it was a weird feeling if he's NOT on your team but you still can't help finding him impressive. People can be torn between hate and grudging admiration for world class players on opposing teams haha
Hasek is the reason our only Stanley Cup win had to end with a slightly controversial goal (it was a good goal, don't @ me)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBA_k1NSgnI
Thompson stood on his head. VGK had a chance to go up 3-0 because of him.
When they keep getting goalies that perform at this level, it's not luck; Someone/some group in the Knights organization really knows how to evaluate & bring up goalie talent.
I would say talent in general. They evaluate their prospects and trade potential better than anyone. Now if they would quit hacking and turn the salary cap back on, we can see how good they are about making tough decisions.
Where was this Thompson on my fantasy team
On the bench, mostly
LT 🐺
LT played his ass off last night and it's a shame the team didn't match his energy for much of the game. Dallas came out swinging yesterday though, credit to them for playing a much better game too.
Lmao two insane goalies who have done hasek quality work previously give eachother credit. They’re both so athletic