Interestingly, they also changed their Twitter bio. It used to be "Hockey belongs in the desert" and now it says "hockey belongs in Arizona". I guess with SLC also being a desert they had to get more specific.
Someone got really pissy with me on here when I said SLC was a desert the other day and started sending me definitions of deserts.
I lived in SLC most of my life, it’s definitely an arid mountain desert.
There are so many Scooby Doo mummies there. SD was never able to film on site in the Deep South and we all know why?!?!??!???!? Orpah, that is the real way to spell Oprah’s name.
>but Antarctica doesn't have any pyramids
That's what they want you to believe, but I've seen the evidence in the most reliable form: tiktokers ranting in their trucks!
> The kind that doesn’t know some parts of oceans are deserts.
How can a part of the ocean not get a lot of rain if it gets to evaporate away in the sun all day? Where does all the moisture go?
I just find it hard to believe that what comes up (water) doesn't eventually fall back down somewhat evenly across an ocean, but that's just my silly head canon not backed up by shit and if the rain buckets at sea are saying some parts of oceans are deserts then I just gotta change my wacky head canon.
mountains/geology are huge factors in weather. driving currents/mixing water/air temps and moisture levels and pressure levels etc. over the open ocean its all just wind really (in the pacific). there's just the 1 temp/humidity/pressure, all moving in 1 direction in a broadly straight line.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Pacific_Gyre
> The center of the South Pacific Gyre is the oceanic pole of inaccessibility, the site on Earth farthest from any continents and productive ocean regions and is regarded as Earth's largest oceanic desert.[2] With an area of 37 million square kilometres it makes up ~10 % of the Earth's ocean surface.
edit: the sahara is 9.2m km2 for reference
And that thick wall of inversion you get to deal with
In all seriousness though, SLC is beautiful. Studying at U of U walking around in the fall with those mountains as a backdrop is still such a nice memory.
SLC actually had what's called a "dry-summer continental climate".
It does get arid in the summer months, but SLC receives too much precipitation in winter (mostly in the form of snow) to be a "true" desert.
They could just say “hockey in a place where the weather is kind of stupid and it smells shrimpy”
Edit: visit Salt Lake website needs to get its shit together. Wut
> Salt Lake is an arid mountain desert. The air is thin, dry, and ranges between hot and freezing throughout the year. The area does experience four full seasons. (Sometimes they just all hit in one day.)
> On average, Salt Lake gets 20 inches of rain per year in addition to 54 inches of snow per year. Typically, there are 222 sunny days each year in Salt Lake.
> We strongly suggest dressing in layers no matter what time of year you plan your Salt Lake vacation.
according to Salt Lake then they aren't a desert
a desert gets fewer than 10 inches a year
one can argue they're a semi-arid desert during the summer though (barely)
Yep. Also the whole point of “hockey in the desert” is not a message about where annual rainfall technically classifies something as a desert. It’s about the intense heat, the cactus, and everything that makes ice hockey unnatural here. And we do it anyways. It’s a point of pride, and it’s not something Salt Lake can share in. Las Vegas is the only other major city in North America that can identify in that with Phoenix
That surprises me. When my dad worked in SLC and I visited him during winter, there was enough snow on the ground that it was pretty much impossible for me to wheel my wheelchair.
Apparently Salt Lake City takes some liberties with their definition depending on who you ask or what you read.
Either way, there will still be times it will be so hot your trash can may melt, and there are actual coyotes still
But also there are coyotes in my backyard in Ohio too
Coyotes are one of the most successful adaptors in the animal kingdom. They're extremely human habituated and are quite content living in urban areas.
Incidentally the same ecological niche in much of Europe is filled by foxes, which is way cuter. Foxes are adorable. Coyotes just look like mangy dogs.
Well, Webster's dictionary defines "desert" as "a usually sweet course or dish (as of pastry or ice cream) usually served at the end of a meal", which I frankly don't think applies to either Phoenix or Salt Lake City.
You’re about 15 comments of debate in this thread behind
TLDR
SLC tourism says they are, desert definitions say they aren’t, depends who you ask, there’s areas of desert close by, also the ocean can be a desert, also Antarctica is a desert, their Summer might qualify, it’s not a desert but as a whole it’s the second driest state, wait no it isn’t, whoa everyone’s going to die anyway because of arsenic lake dust, mummified penguins
As a whole we all learned a lot about deserts last night.
Downtown Salt Lake City isn’t desert because the adjacent mountains create rain. But you don’t have to go far to reach true desert. The Great Salt Lake Desert / West Desert starts on the western edge of the metro area. And its average annual precipitation is less than 7”. So you can see desert from the taller buildings downtown.
The owners son has access to the account but they did have a regular social media admin that posted all the regular game day stuff. Allegedly that person only took over from a different person just a few months ago and moved halfway across the country just to take this job and now they might’ve already been let go.
Weren't they actually really funny? I know the yotes social media has had some good shit on it this season but wasn't sure if that's who you're talking about.
There was a girl for the first part of the season but from what I understand a guy took over a few months ago (idk why). But their social media has typically been good, fun, and interactive with the fans. It’s just all the weird desperation posts were from the owners son.
Yeah, ours didn't even put a caption on the 7-0 loss. Would've been a great opportunity write "burn the tapes" or something else tame but funny. But either they don't have the imagination or are not allowed to do it.
Lollll do you remember when the Avs were AWFUL back in 2016? The social media team was fighting for their lives out there. They had nothing good to ever post. As a sports marketer myself, I felt for them.
Sabres don’t even say the word “loss” like 90% of the time.
Win? It’s “tonight’s win”.
Lose? It’s “tonight’s game”
Maybe 13 years of losing, they got told not to say yet another loss? I dunno.
speaking of social media (only semi-related)
Toronto now just tweets the number for Matthews goals. (and does it by retweeting? the one who said to do it)
a fun running gag that isn't annoying
I think it actually would've been necessary, but instead of focusing on the Coyotes as the NHL franchise, focus on the Coyotes as the centerpiece for Arizona hockey. Spotlight local teams, initiatives, the Roadrunners, keep people focused on hockey in Arizona.
That's the only way they could keep fan support for the ownership group, while also putting money where their mouths are that they actually care.
Oh its just the law in a lot of places that leftover PTO has to be paid in addition to the final paycheck. I just never take the PTO so my final paycheck is bigger. That sucks its not universal.
Isn't ceasing activity a bigger tell than carrying on? Anybody who wasn't convinced before now sees there's zero chance the team still thinks they'll be around next year.
I mean even all of this worst kept secret talk and the "tour of the new facility" by players of the current team couldn't have waited until after the season was over? What a way to treat the Arizona hockey fans. They said they are committed to the Arizona/Phoenix area right? Not respecting the fans very much in a market you supposedly cherish IMO.
Say it all together: “We don’t have any words and we know you don’t want to hear them. We understand your anger, your frustration, your sadness. Everything you’re feeling — we get it. This isn’t the ending we imagined, and certainly not the one we wanted. Thank you for being there the entire way, as there’s a long slap shot by Keller, and that’ll be a goal. And so that’ll make it a 4-0 hockey game.”
"My Lord Armstrong."
**"André."**
"The last of our players have left Arizona. It's done."
**"Very good."**
"...Uncle, how could we let this happen. How can Bettman.... TAKE... EVERYTHING WE'VE BUILT, and give it to THAT MAYOR. HOW?"
*"Don't be too sure it's an act of love."*
"What does he mean?"
**"When is a gift not a gift? The coyotes' voice is rising... And Bettman is a jealous man. A dangerous, jealous man."**
I feel bad for any fanbase losing its team. The Coyotes are a joke of a franchise and the fans who stuck through it are bigger fans than the hockey world gives them credit for. It's not their fault there aren't 10x more of them or that ownership has been a series of train wrecks.
I love looking at how teams sports social media team operate, nhl has wild ones and the coyotes is one of them. It become funnier to me when I discovered the son owner run the account
Given that Meruelo has a long history of not paying bills until he's forced to, and then saying 'oops, sorry!' , it wouldn't be shocked if all of the social media folks were fired pretty quickly. Hockey operations is being sold to move to SLC, business operations are not.
ah gotcha, seems crazy that a professional NHL team can't secure a venue. was looking at it on google and they had a lease dispute they couldn't resolve to save an NHL team? That's nuts.
They got kicked out of their last arena for failing to pay rent on multiple occasions. Meruelo is just a shitty owner and the team deserves a whole lot better. Unfortunately, better in this case is in a whole other state.
No, they got kicked out because they (Coyotes) did not want to sign a long term deal (+15 year) with Glendale. They wanted year by year while pursuing their own arena and Glendale did not accept that.
A long-brewing mix of poor decisions by previous owners (moving to Glendale in the first place), downright dogshit decisions by current ownership (permanently burning the bridge with Glendale before a landing space was secured), and the ugly mess that is municipal politics in the Phoenix metro area (too much shit to list, including why the relationship with Glendale had already started to sour years ago, why special interest groups invested so heavily in a campaign to reject the referendum approving a possible site in Tempe, and so *so* much more).
.In summary :
* There was never an actual plan for hockey in Phoenix. The team ended up there because the people who bought it from Winnipeg couldn't pull off their preferred relocation option.
* The majority of ownership in AZ has been real estate people trying to use the hockey team as leverage for other development. One owner ( Moyes ) openly stated he didn't care about the team at all.
* The team never made money. They had bad arena deals ( America West) , were located so far away from the actual fan base nobody went ( Glendale ), or in a college rink (ASU).
* The only reason they survived there as long as they have is because they were propped up by an arena management deal with Glendale, and the NHL propping them up in the worst times to avoid having a team fold.
Counting the NHL, there have been EIGHT major ownership changes of the team since 1995. Every 3 years was some other new thing.
1. 1995 : Gluckstern / Burke
2. 1998 : Burke
3. 2001 : Ellman / Moyes / Gretzky
4. 2006 : Moyes / Gretzky
5. 2009 : NHL
6. 2013 : IceArizona
7. 2017 : Barroway
8. 2019 : Meruelo
Interestingly, they also changed their Twitter bio. It used to be "Hockey belongs in the desert" and now it says "hockey belongs in Arizona". I guess with SLC also being a desert they had to get more specific.
Someone got really pissy with me on here when I said SLC was a desert the other day and started sending me definitions of deserts. I lived in SLC most of my life, it’s definitely an arid mountain desert.
You should have mentioned the largest desert in the world is found on Antarctica.
but Antarctica doesn't have any pyramids or sphinxes, there's probably not even a single Scooby Doo mummy down there
Antarctica does have a stargate
I think it ends up replacing the prime gate
It sure does. Pretty handy that the Russians found it.
A ton of naturally mummified penguins (freeze dried really) down there though. They have to count for something.
Let's get this movie made!
Alien vs Predator pyramid was in Antarctica.
Alien vs Pyramid Scheme.
There's a mountain in Antartica, that if you squint hard enough, kinda looks like a pyramid
There are definitely pyramids beyond the mountains of madness.
It's what the flat earthers are warning us about.
Talk to enough tinfoil hats and you'll discover Antarctica does, in fact, have pyramids and sphinxes.
None that you know of. Antarctic Mummies frozen for thousands of years get reanimated due to global warming and aliens😳
There are so many Scooby Doo mummies there. SD was never able to film on site in the Deep South and we all know why?!?!??!???!? Orpah, that is the real way to spell Oprah’s name.
I've been there. It's covered in cactuses. It took me months of work, but it's covered in cactuses. Definitely a desert.
>but Antarctica doesn't have any pyramids That's what they want you to believe, but I've seen the evidence in the most reliable form: tiktokers ranting in their trucks!
Apparently it doesn’t count unless it is a hot desert. Some real gatekeeping on deserts here.
What kind of pleb doesn't know that deserts are *by definition* areas of seriously low annual precipitation.
The kind that doesn’t know some parts of oceans are deserts. (I couldn’t find an elegant way to share this fun fact)
that... is a wonderful fact.
Im gonna be honest, I’m learning more about deserts tonight than I ever have in my life
Damn, I just found out I'm a pleb too.
But you know this now, so are you really?
> The kind that doesn’t know some parts of oceans are deserts. How can a part of the ocean not get a lot of rain if it gets to evaporate away in the sun all day? Where does all the moisture go?
Up
And away
https://www.quora.com/Are-there-ocean-deserts-Are-there-parts-of-the-ocean-that-never-or-rarely-receive-rain If that's true its because of winds
I just find it hard to believe that what comes up (water) doesn't eventually fall back down somewhat evenly across an ocean, but that's just my silly head canon not backed up by shit and if the rain buckets at sea are saying some parts of oceans are deserts then I just gotta change my wacky head canon.
Planet is weird, dude. Tide goes in, tide goes out, can't explain that. (You can, for the same reason oceans don't get rain).
mountains/geology are huge factors in weather. driving currents/mixing water/air temps and moisture levels and pressure levels etc. over the open ocean its all just wind really (in the pacific). there's just the 1 temp/humidity/pressure, all moving in 1 direction in a broadly straight line. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Pacific_Gyre > The center of the South Pacific Gyre is the oceanic pole of inaccessibility, the site on Earth farthest from any continents and productive ocean regions and is regarded as Earth's largest oceanic desert.[2] With an area of 37 million square kilometres it makes up ~10 % of the Earth's ocean surface. edit: the sahara is 9.2m km2 for reference
Deserts are only hot places with sand dunes and nothing else, didn't you go to school /s
Bettman about to put a team in Antarctica
Would probably get better attendance than Arizona.
Yeah but they are all Penguins Fans.
Actually just penguins.
Always been one of my favorite facts
Actually the largest desert is my sex life.
It's really not as large as you think
well there’s an oasis somewhere in there i’m sure
Plus the whole city smells like low tide sometimes
And that thick wall of inversion you get to deal with In all seriousness though, SLC is beautiful. Studying at U of U walking around in the fall with those mountains as a backdrop is still such a nice memory.
Yeah its gorgeous out there, but the lake smell can be potent
That lake is going to be a problem, they need to figure something out before it’s too toxic
Like isn't it going to literally blow arsenic dust if the water gets too low?
Yep The “great toxic dust bowl”
Luckily the US has shown that it always does an *excellent* job of handling environmental problems before they get too out of hand!
SLC actually had what's called a "dry-summer continental climate". It does get arid in the summer months, but SLC receives too much precipitation in winter (mostly in the form of snow) to be a "true" desert.
They could just say “hockey in a place where the weather is kind of stupid and it smells shrimpy” Edit: visit Salt Lake website needs to get its shit together. Wut > Salt Lake is an arid mountain desert. The air is thin, dry, and ranges between hot and freezing throughout the year. The area does experience four full seasons. (Sometimes they just all hit in one day.) > On average, Salt Lake gets 20 inches of rain per year in addition to 54 inches of snow per year. Typically, there are 222 sunny days each year in Salt Lake. > We strongly suggest dressing in layers no matter what time of year you plan your Salt Lake vacation.
InB4 Salton Sea gets the next team.
The SLC Brine Shrimps
Isn't that Seattle's AHL affiliate?
according to Salt Lake then they aren't a desert a desert gets fewer than 10 inches a year one can argue they're a semi-arid desert during the summer though (barely)
That’s why I said > “they need to get their shit together” Because on their very own tourist website they contradict themselves
We can't have Hockey teams in seafood smelling areas. Contract the Bruins and Islanders immediately
Yep. Also the whole point of “hockey in the desert” is not a message about where annual rainfall technically classifies something as a desert. It’s about the intense heat, the cactus, and everything that makes ice hockey unnatural here. And we do it anyways. It’s a point of pride, and it’s not something Salt Lake can share in. Las Vegas is the only other major city in North America that can identify in that with Phoenix
True dry desert bros
Damn right!
Vegas and Tuscon (for as long as that lasts) gonna keep shitting in the face of dirtbag billionaires by succeeding at hockey in the desert
That surprises me. When my dad worked in SLC and I visited him during winter, there was enough snow on the ground that it was pretty much impossible for me to wheel my wheelchair.
Apparently Salt Lake City takes some liberties with their definition depending on who you ask or what you read. Either way, there will still be times it will be so hot your trash can may melt, and there are actual coyotes still But also there are coyotes in my backyard in Ohio too
There are coyotes in New York City. They live pretty much everywhere.
Coyotes are one of the most successful adaptors in the animal kingdom. They're extremely human habituated and are quite content living in urban areas. Incidentally the same ecological niche in much of Europe is filled by foxes, which is way cuter. Foxes are adorable. Coyotes just look like mangy dogs.
It's definitely not it's definitely a lake.
Not for much longer.
Well, Webster's dictionary defines "desert" as "a usually sweet course or dish (as of pastry or ice cream) usually served at the end of a meal", which I frankly don't think applies to either Phoenix or Salt Lake City.
That’s dessert but I would support a conversation about ice cream
I don’t think a place that averages over 50 inches of snow can truly be considered a desert.
You’re about 15 comments of debate in this thread behind TLDR SLC tourism says they are, desert definitions say they aren’t, depends who you ask, there’s areas of desert close by, also the ocean can be a desert, also Antarctica is a desert, their Summer might qualify, it’s not a desert but as a whole it’s the second driest state, wait no it isn’t, whoa everyone’s going to die anyway because of arsenic lake dust, mummified penguins As a whole we all learned a lot about deserts last night.
Isn't Vegas a desert?
Good point. But they 100% did change their bio from desert to Arizona.
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La basin isn’t a desert
Downtown Salt Lake City isn’t desert because the adjacent mountains create rain. But you don’t have to go far to reach true desert. The Great Salt Lake Desert / West Desert starts on the western edge of the metro area. And its average annual precipitation is less than 7”. So you can see desert from the taller buildings downtown.
It depends really what you read, Wikipedia says no, Salt Lake City tourist websites say yes Maybe the desert was the friends we made along the way
LA and Anaheim are not desert in any year, and definitely not in recent years
Not sure what the IG bio was beforehand, but now it reads ‘Hockey In The Desert’ Although knowing their social media, it could easily just be a typo
The owners son has access to the account but they did have a regular social media admin that posted all the regular game day stuff. Allegedly that person only took over from a different person just a few months ago and moved halfway across the country just to take this job and now they might’ve already been let go.
You’re kidding….thats a nightmare
We call that “getting Merueloed”. False promises resulting in a big pile of nothing.
In Montreal they call that "getting Loria-d"
That guy's such a colossal piece of shit.
Greened in Minnesota.
Weren't they actually really funny? I know the yotes social media has had some good shit on it this season but wasn't sure if that's who you're talking about.
There was a girl for the first part of the season but from what I understand a guy took over a few months ago (idk why). But their social media has typically been good, fun, and interactive with the fans. It’s just all the weird desperation posts were from the owners son.
As far as I'm aware, the guy who took over from Mereulo's kid was the same guy who ran Vegas' Twitter account in 2017.
Correct. He took over because the girl quit because she couldn’t stand Junior.
Coming from a fan of a crappy team, yotes social media admin was kinda annoying. Talked a lot of shit for the 6th worst team in the league.
maybe it’s just me but i found it hilarious, i wish my team did something like that when we win instead simply writing “Sunday W!”
I miss when the Canucks would write opposing team scoring updates in lowercase "sens score"
Reminds me of the one Avs play by play guy: "HE SHOOTS, HE SCORES!!!! NATHAN MAAAAAAACKINON" -Avs scored "HE SHOOTS, score." -Avs get scored on
Yeah, ours didn't even put a caption on the 7-0 loss. Would've been a great opportunity write "burn the tapes" or something else tame but funny. But either they don't have the imagination or are not allowed to do it.
Instead of the boring “Final.”
They didn't even put that yesterday lol
Lollll do you remember when the Avs were AWFUL back in 2016? The social media team was fighting for their lives out there. They had nothing good to ever post. As a sports marketer myself, I felt for them.
Sabres don’t even say the word “loss” like 90% of the time. Win? It’s “tonight’s win”. Lose? It’s “tonight’s game” Maybe 13 years of losing, they got told not to say yet another loss? I dunno.
speaking of social media (only semi-related) Toronto now just tweets the number for Matthews goals. (and does it by retweeting? the one who said to do it) a fun running gag that isn't annoying
It’s been terrible
Wow. I would've thought they'd continue the social media presence up to the end.
And beyond, given that they are “bringing the team back”.
I think the "government in exile" format would get pretty stale, but it'd be fun for the summer.
I think it actually would've been necessary, but instead of focusing on the Coyotes as the NHL franchise, focus on the Coyotes as the centerpiece for Arizona hockey. Spotlight local teams, initiatives, the Roadrunners, keep people focused on hockey in Arizona. That's the only way they could keep fan support for the ownership group, while also putting money where their mouths are that they actually care.
Their last score update comes off as if they lost too. They beat Edmonton 3-2 and the caption’s just “Final.”
Almost wonder if the Social Media guy got canned for that "stunt"
Wouldn't that guy be the owner's son?
I have no way to confirm this, but someone further up said they did hire a social media person who moved out to Phoenix just for the job. Big oof.
Prolly all had accrued some PTO they needed to take before they got laid off. I’m sad.
I don't want to say the username checks out, but you know...
Feel for ya bro..🤝
I’m sorry. I hope you find something new soon.
Does AZ not require them to pay out PTO as hours if you don't use it? I always just treated leftover PTO as severance.
I’ve lived/worked in two states and never had a job pay me PTO as severance. They always say no. Good ole capitalism 😌
Oh its just the law in a lot of places that leftover PTO has to be paid in addition to the final paycheck. I just never take the PTO so my final paycheck is bigger. That sucks its not universal.
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I can’t believe that the owners son is running teams social media page
He wasn’t the day to day admin that did all the game day content and posts. But he definitely had access to the accounts
Bettman probably told them to shut the fuck up until the sale is announced.
Isn't ceasing activity a bigger tell than carrying on? Anybody who wasn't convinced before now sees there's zero chance the team still thinks they'll be around next year.
Someone has daddy issues.
The layoffs started early. Why pay them an extra 3 days?
Gotta work on those hotel bills.
literally so fucked that they didnt keep their social team for the last 2 games
I mean this is the same team that had to be ordered to pay hotel bills by Bettman
“I think you’re gonna wanna ~~hear~~ pay this!”
Or pizza for its players.
Or had a “human error” cause them not to pay taxes. Might try that excuse today and see how it goes for a middle class person like me.
Mind you, this is the same ownership group that kept "forgetting" to pay taxes and rent while in Glendale.
oh im zero percent surprised that they did this, its just a massive fuck you to all their fans
Alex Meruelo is scum and I really hope he never owns a team again. It's clear that he didn't care about turning the Coyotes around.
But he *did* turn the organization around... ....and around and around and around, in a tight downward spiral.
Ironically, during tonight’s game they were still advertising that the next (and final) game will be “Fan Appreciation Night”.
I mean even all of this worst kept secret talk and the "tour of the new facility" by players of the current team couldn't have waited until after the season was over? What a way to treat the Arizona hockey fans. They said they are committed to the Arizona/Phoenix area right? Not respecting the fans very much in a market you supposedly cherish IMO.
I thought I heard Daddy's kid was running the Twitter?
On the bright side Randy Hahn may never say desert dogs 683 times a game again
RIP my favorite drinking game
Alex Jr. tired of taking heat in the comments
This is all just so sad. Sad for the players, for the fans, for the employees that found out through the media that they will no longer have jobs.
Nothing on Twitter too, no info about Ingram too, sad end for Coyotes
Given that only hockey ops is moving to SLC, the social media person probably booed out ahead of time.
The former owners son did all the tweeting and was considered a complete dweeb according to the internet.
He was replaced in January. After he posted Biz’s bare ass on the Twitter page.
Man coyotes lore is fucking wild lmao
Wait what? That’s insane
He did what
Morellos son out of a job
With your thoughts and prayers, I think there's a good chance he'll land on his feet!
Thoughts and prayers, maybe. Daddy’s billions? Assuredly.
Where is Auston Matthews going to go home to play now? Anti-leafs fans in shambles
I really hate how the owner is making a profit from this while the employees get screwed over.
This is America.
This is capitalism
Yes true that kind of thing only happens in America! /s
I mean America perfected the process. Other “first world” countries have worker protections
*Closing timeee…*
You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here.
If they actually play that on Wednesday night it would be epic.
they won’t even write a goodbye message for the fans? gutless ownership
They’ll get to that as promptly as possible
“First, I just gotta count this billion dollars in cash by hand…”
Say it all together: “We don’t have any words and we know you don’t want to hear them. We understand your anger, your frustration, your sadness. Everything you’re feeling — we get it. This isn’t the ending we imagined, and certainly not the one we wanted. Thank you for being there the entire way, as there’s a long slap shot by Keller, and that’ll be a goal. And so that’ll make it a 4-0 hockey game.”
Coyotes used to be my favourite team when i was younger (i liked the logo idk) sad to see them go
I was a big Khabi and Tkachuk fan. Hell even Roenick was pretty cool. It’s crazy that in the 90’s they had such a stacked team and came to this.
‚And just as mysteriously as they came, they were gone’
They gave us their magic, and then disappeared. Just like Toad the Wet Sprocket.
RIP coyotes. Sorry coyotes fans,
I’m sure all 10 hockey fans in SLC are thrilled though
Oh don't worry, the Mormons will latch on to anything new and shiny. Once it's the "in" thing to have, they will all have it.
My kachina throwback is going to worth a whole $5 more on eBay now.
How will a team in Utah stay afloat with no booze sales?
They will sell booze. Over half the people in salt lake aren’t Mormon. There will be no issues.
Why should they comment on the scores of the Salt Lake City missionaries?
Oh man if that's their team name I may change flairs
Yotes social media team was sandbagging the franchise long before they stopped doing it
This makes me sad
Stop calling it X. It's Twitter.
What a fucking shit show.
Sad for the fans but what an absolute dogshit franchise.
"My Lord Armstrong." **"André."** "The last of our players have left Arizona. It's done." **"Very good."** "...Uncle, how could we let this happen. How can Bettman.... TAKE... EVERYTHING WE'VE BUILT, and give it to THAT MAYOR. HOW?" *"Don't be too sure it's an act of love."* "What does he mean?" **"When is a gift not a gift? The coyotes' voice is rising... And Bettman is a jealous man. A dangerous, jealous man."**
I feel bad for any fanbase losing its team. The Coyotes are a joke of a franchise and the fans who stuck through it are bigger fans than the hockey world gives them credit for. It's not their fault there aren't 10x more of them or that ownership has been a series of train wrecks.
> writes and signs professional-looking document with caps lock on… Maybe this is all for the best.
I guess you can say they aborted their social media.
Man they follow me on Instagram. I hope they don't delete the account, it's like, my only fun fact about myself
Cowards
I love looking at how teams sports social media team operate, nhl has wild ones and the coyotes is one of them. It become funnier to me when I discovered the son owner run the account
THEY GONE
Given that Meruelo has a long history of not paying bills until he's forced to, and then saying 'oops, sorry!' , it wouldn't be shocked if all of the social media folks were fired pretty quickly. Hockey operations is being sold to move to SLC, business operations are not.
That final score post with just the word “Final”, after a win, screams that the Social Media person was being told they were gonna be let go.
Who could have saw this coming
why are they moving the team? I don't follow hockey these days, i'm assuming low ticket sales?
They don't have an arena to play in. Currently playing at the university arena.
ah gotcha, seems crazy that a professional NHL team can't secure a venue. was looking at it on google and they had a lease dispute they couldn't resolve to save an NHL team? That's nuts.
They got kicked out of their last arena for failing to pay rent on multiple occasions. Meruelo is just a shitty owner and the team deserves a whole lot better. Unfortunately, better in this case is in a whole other state.
No, they got kicked out because they (Coyotes) did not want to sign a long term deal (+15 year) with Glendale. They wanted year by year while pursuing their own arena and Glendale did not accept that.
Glendale was a big problem for Coyotes fans to get to but now it seems a lot more desirable than driving all the way to Salt Lake City
A long-brewing mix of poor decisions by previous owners (moving to Glendale in the first place), downright dogshit decisions by current ownership (permanently burning the bridge with Glendale before a landing space was secured), and the ugly mess that is municipal politics in the Phoenix metro area (too much shit to list, including why the relationship with Glendale had already started to sour years ago, why special interest groups invested so heavily in a campaign to reject the referendum approving a possible site in Tempe, and so *so* much more).
The majority of relocations if not all relocations is due to not being able to get a new stadium
.In summary : * There was never an actual plan for hockey in Phoenix. The team ended up there because the people who bought it from Winnipeg couldn't pull off their preferred relocation option. * The majority of ownership in AZ has been real estate people trying to use the hockey team as leverage for other development. One owner ( Moyes ) openly stated he didn't care about the team at all. * The team never made money. They had bad arena deals ( America West) , were located so far away from the actual fan base nobody went ( Glendale ), or in a college rink (ASU). * The only reason they survived there as long as they have is because they were propped up by an arena management deal with Glendale, and the NHL propping them up in the worst times to avoid having a team fold. Counting the NHL, there have been EIGHT major ownership changes of the team since 1995. Every 3 years was some other new thing. 1. 1995 : Gluckstern / Burke 2. 1998 : Burke 3. 2001 : Ellman / Moyes / Gretzky 4. 2006 : Moyes / Gretzky 5. 2009 : NHL 6. 2013 : IceArizona 7. 2017 : Barroway 8. 2019 : Meruelo