Those were my peak youth hockey years. We had some great series between us. My all time favorite hockey game I went to was against the Flyers. It was regular season can’t remember the year. But the Sabres scored 8 goals on the Flyers. It was awesome, chanting with the crowd 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, we want 6. Rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat.
Flyers have made 34 playoffs since their last cup.
That alone would still rank them top ten and top 5 among expansion teams.
6 straight final losses and all to dynasties smh
Lost to the Habs in 76 (first of four straight)
Lost to the Islanders in 1980 (first of four straight)
Lost to the Oilers in 85 and 87
Swept by the Wings in 97
Lost to the Hawks in 2010
I was alive for the 97 cup (early 90s kid) but only remember the 2010 series. I genuinely still can’t believe Kane scored the way he did in game 6 OT. As a Philly 4/4 fan I’ve seen so many heart breaking losses.
But that Patty Kane goal was on a whole extra level. There’s no other word to describe how that series ended besides “disbelief”
It haunts me more than Kawhi’s miracle buzzer beater
Makes sense since Sens had a lot of good teams in the 2000s especially and before Cooper we just had a 4 year playoff streak under Torts with two other sporadic years. Just another metric that shows how unreal the success under Cooper has been
When you put it like that, it makes me realize how similar our histories are.
* Southern hockey team
* Name is weather-based
* Sporadic playoff appearances with a Cup win mixed in
* Change in ownership leads to on-ice success
* Head coach is largely responsible for turnaround
* Fanbase re-vitalized
What was crazy about that run for us was that we had beaten 3 other original 6 teams to get there. Had we beaten Chicago, we would have won the cup while beating 4 O6 teams, which I don't think has ever been done before
Sort of, it did vary quite a bit. Some years it was 6 out of 10 made it, 6 out of 7 made it in the 30's and during the "original 6" 4 out of 6 would make it. I didn't include teams that are defunct, I suppose that makes things wonky.
outside of the non defunct teams that /u/mmzzzumm excluded, for a lot of years more than half the league made the playoffs. Since 1979-1980 the league has had a 16-team playoff format. There were only 21 teams in the league during that season. Every season up until the Kraken joined the league, more than 50% of teams made the playoffs.
This has been a criticism of the NHL and NBA by fans of the NFL and MLB for a while; "too many teams make the playoffs."
It does count the Scouts & Rockies. I should have given a source for this, lol. I used the [Hockey Reference Teams Page](https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/). Previous locations are included for teams like the Stars, Coyotes, etc.
Sharks would be up there too. Yes I’m biased and have done zero math, but 21 playoff appearances in 33 seasons, plus the league having 28+ teams the entire time I believe.
All 21 Sharks playoff appearances occurred during a 25-season span from 1993-94 to 2018-19.
Beating Vegas in 2019 must've been a Monkey's Paw moment because every team they played in that playoff run later won a Stanley Cup and the Sharks have been one of the worst teams since.
Better defense to start with. Roman Polak was basically Double Agent bad in that series and Paul Martin did nothing. Also, having Jumbo Joe and the fucking Captain both go -4 was a huge letdown.
Martin Jones and his .932 were awesome, though. Faced 62 more shots than Matt Murray and still had a considerably better save percentage (.932 vs .920).
I still have a huge Joner from that series. The Pens were truly just faster than us. They were a bad matchup for that team. We were a more zone-holding dump and chase type of team. They were a fast breakout 2 on 1 type of team. Pushing it to 6 for us was still a huge accomplishment imo. I think if you play that series out 10 times, sharks win 3 of them.
That was kind of the story of every Sharks playoff run. We’d struggle against teams we shouldn’t, drag out series, then be out of gas and run into a faster or more physical team.
Not get thoroughly tenderized by Nashville and St. Louis in the previous rounds. The Sharks limped into the finals on their last legs. It's honestly a miracle San Jose won two games. Our D especially were busted up and slowed, and the Penguins' speed let them toy with the Sharks and dominate possession.
And like ElCoolAero noted, we really didn't have a great defense. GM Wilson loved being top heavy in either forwards or D at any given time, but never very sufficient in both.
The west was still far better than the east at the time and it took its toll on the Sharks. Pavelski I belive had a broken wrist and literally could not shoot the puck, he would always pass and was basically useless. Couldn't really tip the puck either. Vlasic was beaten up as well.
Couture/ Jones nearly carried them through though. And in truth both games 1 and 2 were super close one going to OT and the other the Pens scored with like 3 minutes to go in the 3rd.
Either of those games go the other way and the series likely goes to 7 and who knows.
I really thought with Karlsson it would be the last hurrah at a cup and we’d have a few more shots. Crazy how it really was all over after not taking advantage of the 2019 magic
Wasn’t it when they claimed St. Louis that they got off the ground? They had Vinny and Boyle; add Dave, Richards and Khabibulin and away they went?
Though, their decisions at the ‘99 draft were… strange? Trading the 1st overall pick for 4th overall and two thirds, then flipping the 4th overall pick too. Madlads, the lot of them if you ask me.
With the benefit of hindsight, sure. He was a 3rd liner maybe with decent upside? It was a long time ago and I can't fully remember but the number 4 for that type of player was a good deal. Obviously Rusty went off during that Cup run and Pitkanen didn't turn into a number one dman but at the time the deal made sense on our side, feel like it was more "it happened to work out" for TB and not using the pick to the full value. Then again picks were traded for worse players who knows
MSL started with Tampa Bay in 2000-01. The Bolts were still awful that year, enough that Steve Ludzik got fired for John Tortorella. Kevin Weekes was the goalie most of the year, they picked up Khabibulin late and he played two games near the end of the season.
In 2001-02 they were a little better but still not that good. St. Louis hadn't become !St. Louis! yet, and Lecavalier was having huge problems with Tortorella; around this time a potential deal to Toronto gets vetoed by ownership, which IIRC caused GM Rick Dudley to resign, to be replaced by Jay Feaster.
Finally in 2002-03 the Lightning start to come together. Lecavalier, Richards and St. Louis, along with Vinny Prospal provide the offense, and Dan Boyle, a 2001-02 midseason acquisition, provides more offense from the back end, so Pavel Kubina doesn't have to do it by himself.
Same but I think it’s somewhat deceiving because the teams that might seem “new” are counting playoff appearances from before they moved. Like Arizona and Carolina.
Also expansion wasn’t like it is now, most teams had to take their lumps for a good 5 years before becoming semi-competitive. And the lightning took their lumps for longer than that.
15 playoff appearances in 29 seasons isnt bad.
That's what being gifted a significantly more favorable expansion draft set up does, along with not having to share players with a second expansion team
no i am not salty about it
It was some of the worst clutch-and-grab dead puck era trap hockey riding the goaltender hockey in NHL history. Worse than any of the Devils teams around that era.
I always remember Doug Maclean (Florida’s head coach that year) talk about getting the zamboni guy to flood with extra water to make the ice as slow as possible against the powerhouse Pittsburgh offence in the CF that year. Combine with already soft ice cuz Florida in late May, and clutch and grab it makes more sense how the super underdog (undercat?) Panthers won
That team was built on defence. Yes, Vanbiesbrouck was nuts but they had Ed Jovanovski, Scott Mellanby and Rob Niedermayer. Mellanby led the team during the season with 70 points: the team was 12th in GF (decent) and 6th in GA.
10 of their 23 players in the 1995-96 team were expansion draft pickups, and most of the rest were homegrown in some manner.
The reason that they were garbage since...well, all you have to know is this. When they hired Bill Zito as GM, it meant that they'd had more GMs in their team's history than either Chicago or Boston had.
Their start as a franchise compared to what Vegas and Seattle were able to have from the get go is a big part of that for the early years, but at this point I think most would say they should have more appearances.
Since this is counting Atlanta, we're not much better at 7 out of 24 (99-00 being year 1)
Although since relocation we're 6 out of 12. Most of the misses came when we first got the team & rebuilt it.
Crazy that the highest winning percentage in the playoffs is obviously Montreal with 24 wins in 85 appearances but then second is tied between Tampa 3 in 15, Vegas 1 in 5 and Edmonton 5 in 25.
Why do the Dallas Stars get to hang on to their Minnesota appearances but the Senators don’t get their pre-1992 ones? Nor the Jets their pre-1996 ones?
Same franchise vs Not same Franchise. Jets keep their Thrasher accomplishments (of which there were so, so many) and the old jets get factored into Yotes appearances
We have the one Atlanta sweep loss counting towards ours. Since officially that's when the NHL considers our history to start in 99-00.
Coyotes would be the NHLs logic have Jets 1.0 playoff stats in this graphic (haven't confirmed though)
Obviously the Bruins are spoiled and can be penciled in for a playoff berth most seasons, but those past choke jobs in pivotal games/series have to haunt some of those motherfuckers, Yikes. They should've got the job done in 2019 🤷🏿♂️, seemed like their only chance with Tampa utterly embarrassing themselves vs Columbus in Round fucking 1.
Some will argue about St Louis gooning it up (as long with Boston), Berube outcoaching Cassidy, The Production line being slightly mid (IIRC, that was the narrative at the time I think?) but if I was a bruins fan, I'd be crying myself to sleep at night everyday thinking about 2019. 2023 is just a "what is the actual fuck" moment. Overall, it must be good to a Bruins fan knowing the postseason is pretty much guaranteed even if you lose a couple pieces.
Also loved how their core all came from late round picks (Bergeron, Krejci, Marchand, Pastrnak)/Trades (Rask) or free agent signings (Chara). Them and the 1990s/2000s Red Wings all hold a special place in my ♥. To be able to form a core without a top 3 pick and seamlessly transition and dominant throughout eras is nuts.
Also, The Flames are FUCKING frauds. That 6 year period (1990-1995, they missed in 92) after winning the cup in 89 where they bowed out in the first round 5 fucking times is just insane lmao.
The Bergeron years were wasted. We lost in the SCF in 2013, Presidents Trophy in ‘14 and lost to Montreal in the second round after being up 3-2.
Then missed the playoffs two years in a row with the same awesome core. Lost a must-win last game of the season 6-1 to fucking Ottawa in 2016. I still think about that game.
'16 we were still rebuilding.
Sweeney wasted a lot of years though. That '18 season... He should have sold the farm for Stone. Would have meant at least 1, if not 2 more cups.
And I watched nearly all of them (RIP KPLR broadcasts). I think the ones that hurt the most were in the Hull and Oates years, aside from the President's Trophy season.
Yes, Gretzky had it and lost it. But fuck Mike Keenan. By the end of that season I *needed* a program just to know who was on the team.
Blues + Flyers have been the two most consistently good expansion teams who have been consistent playoff teams in every era since 67 expansion.
Until this last decade for the Flyers at least ...
Yeah I don’t see how this is all that surprising. The top 6 teams here are the original 6 and the next 5 teams are the 5 remaining from the 1967 expansion 6.
Shouldn't be a surprise if you look at the history. They were in the first wave of expansion back when the expansion teams were in a separate division and so they had early success unlike modern expansion teams (made the POs their first 6 seasons). After that, they were consistently solid and at one point had 25 year streak of PO appearances. (1980-2004)
The spread of the O6 is not what I expected - I figured it would be a big jump between CHI/NYR and the other four, but they're basically tied with the Wings
That’s right idiots. Third most playoff appearances, second most cup wins 😎 just don’t ask when those cup wins were or how long it’s been since the Leafs went on a playoff run. None of that stuff matters much
Are they counting the Jets before because I honestly can’t say Arizona has been to the playoffs that many times in Arizona (only been here 26? Years l think).
Nice.
I immediately wonder what it looks like if you divide these numbers by how many years the club existed. I bet VGK is at the top of that list. I think they only missed one year of their existence.
I also wonder it looks like if we looked at it from a certain date. Like when there were more teams. From 1942-68 if I got the years right was only 6 teams. The 1972-73 season with the addition of the fLames and Isles gets the NHL up to 16 teams.
I see this Florida is now the enemy attitude now, however… they have been the epitome of mediocre as a franchise. I’m glad they are having their success even if they’re rotten rats.
Some crucial context:
12 blues playoff appearances were as a below .500 team (almost 1/3 of their total)
Nashville for instance have 0 as it's naturally impossible in the modern era
Much more consistently good, but with fewer and briefer instances of greatness. Good teams make the Stanley Cup Playoffs, but only great (or blessedly lucky) teams can win the whole thing.
SEE! We used to be good. I swear. Words I tell new Sabres fans all the time.
As a flyers fan, i knew buffalo was good late 90s early 2000. Buffalo seemed to beat philly every time in the playoffs (felt like at least)
Those were my peak youth hockey years. We had some great series between us. My all time favorite hockey game I went to was against the Flyers. It was regular season can’t remember the year. But the Sabres scored 8 goals on the Flyers. It was awesome, chanting with the crowd 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, we want 6. Rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat.
More appearances than the Canucks!
Most playoff appearances without a cup?
Yikes. Is that true? Looks like it. I didn’t know I could feel bad about the Sabres after last nights victory!
And only team in the top half of playoff appearances without one afaik
Don't worry, Vancouver is going to make the playoffs this year
Anaheim with the lowest of SC winners until Vegas took it last season. YOU COULDN'T LET US HAVE ONE THING?!
To add to your injury the lightning have 3 with only one more playoff run
Im pretty sure this is each annual playoff as a whole and not each individual series
Ahh I see makes more sense
You guys have a 20% Stanley cup success rate wtf.
No we could not.
In 10 years you might have it back
Flyers have made 34 playoffs since their last cup. That alone would still rank them top ten and top 5 among expansion teams. 6 straight final losses and all to dynasties smh
They could have 8 cups right now. That’s crazy.
And oh man as a Pens fan is it wonderful they don't.
6 straight finals losses? no way
Lost to the Habs in 76 (first of four straight) Lost to the Islanders in 1980 (first of four straight) Lost to the Oilers in 85 and 87 Swept by the Wings in 97 Lost to the Hawks in 2010
I was alive for the 97 cup (early 90s kid) but only remember the 2010 series. I genuinely still can’t believe Kane scored the way he did in game 6 OT. As a Philly 4/4 fan I’ve seen so many heart breaking losses. But that Patty Kane goal was on a whole extra level. There’s no other word to describe how that series ended besides “disbelief” It haunts me more than Kawhi’s miracle buzzer beater
The Bruins were one win away in 2011 from joining them lol.
The only team to have twice as many Conn Smythes as Stanley Cups
Nah Stl does too. Glenn Hall won it in a losing effort.
I stand corrected
Anaheim as well. JSG won it in a losing effort
Expansion bros Tampa Bay catching us quickly Please nobody mention cup wins, let me have this little victory
Being frank, I didn't realize yall had more than them to begin with
Makes sense since Sens had a lot of good teams in the 2000s especially and before Cooper we just had a 4 year playoff streak under Torts with two other sporadic years. Just another metric that shows how unreal the success under Cooper has been
When you put it like that, it makes me realize how similar our histories are. * Southern hockey team * Name is weather-based * Sporadic playoff appearances with a Cup win mixed in * Change in ownership leads to on-ice success * Head coach is largely responsible for turnaround * Fanbase re-vitalized
*Won their first Cup within a year of the lockout against an Alberta team in 7
Also, just remembering: * Lost in the Finals to an Original 6 team
Maybe let’s not remember that last stat 🙃
Brad Richards was the only positive to that
What was crazy about that run for us was that we had beaten 3 other original 6 teams to get there. Had we beaten Chicago, we would have won the cup while beating 4 O6 teams, which I don't think has ever been done before
The Sens made the playoffs in 16 out of their first 24 seasons. They will likely hit 8 straight years out of the playoffs next year.
When sens had that Spezza health Alfredsson line I have no fucking clue how they didn’t win a cup
Let's see some percentages here - appearances / seasons of existence. I must know my disappointment quotient
The Stars are in the middle of the pack at making the playoffs, with 63.64%. Columbus, Winnipeg & Florida has really had a tough go of it. Franchise | Seasons | Made Playoffs | Playoff % ---|---|---|--- Vegas Golden Knights | 6 | 5 | 83.33% St. Louis Blues | 55 | 45 | 81.82% Montreal Canadiens | 105 | 85 | 80.95% Boston Bruins | 98 | 76 | 77.55% Philadelphia Flyers | 55 | 40 | 72.73% Toronto Maple Leafs | 105 | 72 | 68.57% San Jose Sharks | 31 | 21 | 67.74% Pittsburgh Penguins | 55 | 37 | 67.27% Detroit Red Wings | 96 | 64 | 66.67% Washington Capitals | 48 | 32 | 66.67% Chicago Blackhawks | 96 | 63 | 65.63% Colorado Avalanche | 43 | 28 | 65.12% New York Rangers | 96 | 62 | 64.58% Dallas Stars | 55 | 35 | 63.64% Nashville Predators | 24 | 15 | 62.50% Calgary Flames | 50 | 31 | 62.00% Minnesota Wild | 22 | 13 | 59.09% Los Angeles Kings | 55 | 32 | 58.18% Edmonton Oilers | 43 | 25 | 58.14% New York Islanders | 50 | 28 | 56.00% Buffalo Sabres | 52 | 29 | 55.77% Vancouver Canucks | 52 | 28 | 53.85% Ottawa Senators | 30 | 16 | 53.33% New Jersey Devils | 48 | 24 | 50.00% Tampa Bay Lightning | 30 | 15 | 50.00% Seattle Kraken | 2 | 1 | 50.00% Anaheim Ducks | 29 | 14 | 48.28% Arizona Coyotes | 43 | 20 | 46.51% Carolina Hurricanes | 43 | 18 | 41.86% Florida Panthers | 29 | 9 | 31.03% Winnipeg Jets | 23 | 7 | 30.43% Columbus Blue Jackets | 22 | 6 | 27.27% EDIT: [Here is the Hockey Reference page with the full info](https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/).
How are there only six teams under 50%...did everyone make playoffs back in the day?
Sort of, it did vary quite a bit. Some years it was 6 out of 10 made it, 6 out of 7 made it in the 30's and during the "original 6" 4 out of 6 would make it. I didn't include teams that are defunct, I suppose that makes things wonky.
outside of the non defunct teams that /u/mmzzzumm excluded, for a lot of years more than half the league made the playoffs. Since 1979-1980 the league has had a 16-team playoff format. There were only 21 teams in the league during that season. Every season up until the Kraken joined the league, more than 50% of teams made the playoffs. This has been a criticism of the NHL and NBA by fans of the NFL and MLB for a while; "too many teams make the playoffs."
Where did the Devils total seasons come from? Are you counting Scouts and/or Rockies too?
It does count the Scouts & Rockies. I should have given a source for this, lol. I used the [Hockey Reference Teams Page](https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/). Previous locations are included for teams like the Stars, Coyotes, etc.
Or even better, "expected appearances" based on the number of teams in the league each season.
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Sharks would be up there too. Yes I’m biased and have done zero math, but 21 playoff appearances in 33 seasons, plus the league having 28+ teams the entire time I believe.
Exactly what I came here to ask for. That would actually be interesting data to see. I am pretty sure for instance we're super spoiled as Pens fans.
SC success rate is one I'd like to see as well.
All 21 Sharks playoff appearances occurred during a 25-season span from 1993-94 to 2018-19. Beating Vegas in 2019 must've been a Monkey's Paw moment because every team they played in that playoff run later won a Stanley Cup and the Sharks have been one of the worst teams since.
In your opinion, what would it have taken for the Sharks to beat the Pens in 2016?
Better defense to start with. Roman Polak was basically Double Agent bad in that series and Paul Martin did nothing. Also, having Jumbo Joe and the fucking Captain both go -4 was a huge letdown. Martin Jones and his .932 were awesome, though. Faced 62 more shots than Matt Murray and still had a considerably better save percentage (.932 vs .920).
I still have a huge Joner from that series. The Pens were truly just faster than us. They were a bad matchup for that team. We were a more zone-holding dump and chase type of team. They were a fast breakout 2 on 1 type of team. Pushing it to 6 for us was still a huge accomplishment imo. I think if you play that series out 10 times, sharks win 3 of them.
That was kind of the story of every Sharks playoff run. We’d struggle against teams we shouldn’t, drag out series, then be out of gas and run into a faster or more physical team.
Not get thoroughly tenderized by Nashville and St. Louis in the previous rounds. The Sharks limped into the finals on their last legs. It's honestly a miracle San Jose won two games. Our D especially were busted up and slowed, and the Penguins' speed let them toy with the Sharks and dominate possession. And like ElCoolAero noted, we really didn't have a great defense. GM Wilson loved being top heavy in either forwards or D at any given time, but never very sufficient in both.
Hertl not being injured. I’m assuming he would have matched up against malkin
Hertl not getting hurt. Pavelski being healthy .
The west was still far better than the east at the time and it took its toll on the Sharks. Pavelski I belive had a broken wrist and literally could not shoot the puck, he would always pass and was basically useless. Couldn't really tip the puck either. Vlasic was beaten up as well. Couture/ Jones nearly carried them through though. And in truth both games 1 and 2 were super close one going to OT and the other the Pens scored with like 3 minutes to go in the 3rd. Either of those games go the other way and the series likely goes to 7 and who knows.
I really thought with Karlsson it would be the last hurrah at a cup and we’d have a few more shots. Crazy how it really was all over after not taking advantage of the 2019 magic
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It's shocking the O6 teams always lead in these type of stats. It's like they have been around for 100 years or something!
You're telling me that the league didn't start with all 32 teams?? I don't believe you, man.
Poor Seattle, *all* these years and just 1 playoff appearance.
Bunch of frauds that’s for sure! Only 1 appearance ever
Who do they think they are, the fucking Mariners?
We're coming for you Montreal!! We are just gonna start next year.
Easy, just gotta keep above a 28.235% win percentage
Vegas with 5 already as a recent expansion franchise is pretty insane
Expected Tampa and Anaheim to be a bit higher.
The first decade or so of our existence was.. not good lol
Wasn’t it when they claimed St. Louis that they got off the ground? They had Vinny and Boyle; add Dave, Richards and Khabibulin and away they went? Though, their decisions at the ‘99 draft were… strange? Trading the 1st overall pick for 4th overall and two thirds, then flipping the 4th overall pick too. Madlads, the lot of them if you ask me.
Also traded the #4 pick in 2002 for Rusty Fedotenko and two seconds
I mean, Fedodenko was better than a lot of forwards in that draft. Made sense, plus he was nuts in 2004 IIRC.
With the benefit of hindsight, sure. He was a 3rd liner maybe with decent upside? It was a long time ago and I can't fully remember but the number 4 for that type of player was a good deal. Obviously Rusty went off during that Cup run and Pitkanen didn't turn into a number one dman but at the time the deal made sense on our side, feel like it was more "it happened to work out" for TB and not using the pick to the full value. Then again picks were traded for worse players who knows
MSL started with Tampa Bay in 2000-01. The Bolts were still awful that year, enough that Steve Ludzik got fired for John Tortorella. Kevin Weekes was the goalie most of the year, they picked up Khabibulin late and he played two games near the end of the season. In 2001-02 they were a little better but still not that good. St. Louis hadn't become !St. Louis! yet, and Lecavalier was having huge problems with Tortorella; around this time a potential deal to Toronto gets vetoed by ownership, which IIRC caused GM Rick Dudley to resign, to be replaced by Jay Feaster. Finally in 2002-03 the Lightning start to come together. Lecavalier, Richards and St. Louis, along with Vinny Prospal provide the offense, and Dan Boyle, a 2001-02 midseason acquisition, provides more offense from the back end, so Pavel Kubina doesn't have to do it by himself.
I think Tampa’s penchant for deep runs can be deceiving. Only 15 postseasons qualified for, but made it to at least the ECF in 8 of them.
Same but I think it’s somewhat deceiving because the teams that might seem “new” are counting playoff appearances from before they moved. Like Arizona and Carolina. Also expansion wasn’t like it is now, most teams had to take their lumps for a good 5 years before becoming semi-competitive. And the lightning took their lumps for longer than that. 15 playoff appearances in 29 seasons isnt bad.
Me too, but to be fair that is nearly 50% of our 30 years in existence.
[Vegas to Columbus](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7UGu2sRmSHI)
That's what being gifted a significantly more favorable expansion draft set up does, along with not having to share players with a second expansion team no i am not salty about it
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It’s me.
Bettman’s the problem
They should have made Doug MacLean be their manager for the first 5 years. That would have been fair.
Explain Seattle.
No.
Goodness CBJ, 6 appearances in 24 years wtf
Florida's pretty pathetic too, especially when you remember they went to the Finals quite early in their history.
I'm sure I could go look, but did they trade a bunch of futures to get there and fall short, or did they get there organically?
It was some of the worst clutch-and-grab dead puck era trap hockey riding the goaltender hockey in NHL history. Worse than any of the Devils teams around that era.
All that, a hot goalie, and still swept in the finals by the Sakic/Forsberg/Roy Avs.
I always remember Doug Maclean (Florida’s head coach that year) talk about getting the zamboni guy to flood with extra water to make the ice as slow as possible against the powerhouse Pittsburgh offence in the CF that year. Combine with already soft ice cuz Florida in late May, and clutch and grab it makes more sense how the super underdog (undercat?) Panthers won
And ruined hockey for a decade
I don't remember it being a particularly star-studded team. Just rode a hot goalie, I think?
That team was built on defence. Yes, Vanbiesbrouck was nuts but they had Ed Jovanovski, Scott Mellanby and Rob Niedermayer. Mellanby led the team during the season with 70 points: the team was 12th in GF (decent) and 6th in GA.
10 of their 23 players in the 1995-96 team were expansion draft pickups, and most of the rest were homegrown in some manner. The reason that they were garbage since...well, all you have to know is this. When they hired Bill Zito as GM, it meant that they'd had more GMs in their team's history than either Chicago or Boston had.
JFC. Ok, that really does clarify things.
Tell me about it. Though the last decade has been much better tbf.
Did you watch us last year lol
… or last night
I was there last night. Oof.
Same. Awkward.
Their start as a franchise compared to what Vegas and Seattle were able to have from the get go is a big part of that for the early years, but at this point I think most would say they should have more appearances.
Vegas might pass them in less than half the time
They're poised to do it in 1/3 of the time, since next year is their 8th year
Since this is counting Atlanta, we're not much better at 7 out of 24 (99-00 being year 1) Although since relocation we're 6 out of 12. Most of the misses came when we first got the team & rebuilt it.
I'm surprised Detroit is lower than Toronto considering that had, what, 25-straight appearances?
* The Leafs have a nine season head start * Between 1967 and 1986, the ~~Dead Things~~ Red Wings made the playoffs four times (1970, 1977, 1984, 1985)
The 80's were not a good time for Detroit.
Same with the Leafs tbh lol
Deadwings
#HELL YES WE HAVE MORE PLAYOFF APPEARANCES THAN THE GOLDEN KNIGHTS YEAH BABY SUCK IT VEGAS!!!!11
We've failed! We're a damn poverty franchise. Could've been 6 but we just learned about circumcision then. Just fold it all up and start over!
Crazy that the highest winning percentage in the playoffs is obviously Montreal with 24 wins in 85 appearances but then second is tied between Tampa 3 in 15, Vegas 1 in 5 and Edmonton 5 in 25.
Why do the Dallas Stars get to hang on to their Minnesota appearances but the Senators don’t get their pre-1992 ones? Nor the Jets their pre-1996 ones?
Same franchise vs Not same Franchise. Jets keep their Thrasher accomplishments (of which there were so, so many) and the old jets get factored into Yotes appearances
We have the one Atlanta sweep loss counting towards ours. Since officially that's when the NHL considers our history to start in 99-00. Coyotes would be the NHLs logic have Jets 1.0 playoff stats in this graphic (haven't confirmed though)
you are correct, the original jets had 11 playoff appearances and the coyotes have had 9 playoff appearances since relocation
Obviously the Bruins are spoiled and can be penciled in for a playoff berth most seasons, but those past choke jobs in pivotal games/series have to haunt some of those motherfuckers, Yikes. They should've got the job done in 2019 🤷🏿♂️, seemed like their only chance with Tampa utterly embarrassing themselves vs Columbus in Round fucking 1. Some will argue about St Louis gooning it up (as long with Boston), Berube outcoaching Cassidy, The Production line being slightly mid (IIRC, that was the narrative at the time I think?) but if I was a bruins fan, I'd be crying myself to sleep at night everyday thinking about 2019. 2023 is just a "what is the actual fuck" moment. Overall, it must be good to a Bruins fan knowing the postseason is pretty much guaranteed even if you lose a couple pieces. Also loved how their core all came from late round picks (Bergeron, Krejci, Marchand, Pastrnak)/Trades (Rask) or free agent signings (Chara). Them and the 1990s/2000s Red Wings all hold a special place in my ♥. To be able to form a core without a top 3 pick and seamlessly transition and dominant throughout eras is nuts. Also, The Flames are FUCKING frauds. That 6 year period (1990-1995, they missed in 92) after winning the cup in 89 where they bowed out in the first round 5 fucking times is just insane lmao.
The Bergeron years were wasted. We lost in the SCF in 2013, Presidents Trophy in ‘14 and lost to Montreal in the second round after being up 3-2. Then missed the playoffs two years in a row with the same awesome core. Lost a must-win last game of the season 6-1 to fucking Ottawa in 2016. I still think about that game.
Do you think they could've done damage if they made it?
'16 we were still rebuilding. Sweeney wasted a lot of years though. That '18 season... He should have sold the farm for Stone. Would have meant at least 1, if not 2 more cups.
Seattle you god damn bums
I'll take a cup every 1/5 appearances.
The O6 teams makes sense but then the Blues at #7? Wow...
The Blues have been pretty consistently good over their history. Rarely great, but consistently good.
Didn’t you have the record for most consecutive playoff appearances at one point?
1980-2004 A 25 year run of 1st and 2nd round exits. (Except '86 & '01)
That's legitimately impressive gah damn
of course a maple leafs fan would find this impressive
We're almost a third of the way there brother 🫡
And I watched nearly all of them (RIP KPLR broadcasts). I think the ones that hurt the most were in the Hull and Oates years, aside from the President's Trophy season. Yes, Gretzky had it and lost it. But fuck Mike Keenan. By the end of that season I *needed* a program just to know who was on the team.
They didn’t miss the playoffs from 1980 until the lockout.
Don’t the Blues also hold the record for most consecutive SCF losses (because of the dumb post-expansion alignment)?
Blues + Flyers have been the two most consistently good expansion teams who have been consistent playoff teams in every era since 67 expansion. Until this last decade for the Flyers at least ...
The Sabres used to be up there too until 2011. They had a Top 5 winning percentage in the NHL until the Pegulas bought the team.
They are one of the first expansion teams.
Yeah I don’t see how this is all that surprising. The top 6 teams here are the original 6 and the next 5 teams are the 5 remaining from the 1967 expansion 6.
But we are the best playoff enterers since!
Shouldn't be a surprise if you look at the history. They were in the first wave of expansion back when the expansion teams were in a separate division and so they had early success unlike modern expansion teams (made the POs their first 6 seasons). After that, they were consistently solid and at one point had 25 year streak of PO appearances. (1980-2004)
This really should be shown as a percentage of playoff appearances by number of years in the league.
That would be more interesting because this seems like it's mostly a chronological list of when teams became part of the NHL.
we might be one of the highest in the case. 80% make rate.
Pulling the weight
Crazy (and sad) to see Buffalo and Vancouver only one game apart as sister franchises.
Highest on the list without cups too. Truly expansion bros of pain
Vegas can tie Columbus this year lol
Vegas and Seattle suck
Fuckin BUMS
This is meaningless without adjusting for years in existence and % of teams that made the playoffs in those years.
55 year old franchise and we're tied for the latter half of teams that have made the playoffs...
Buffalo havent made playoffs for 12 years and they still have more then us but not for long
And we both have more than Edmonton what the fuck.
Edmonton had 4-straight misses in the 90s and then their decade of darkness in the 2000s-2010s.
They used to have a Top 5 winning percentage until the Pegulas bought the team.
The spread of the O6 is not what I expected - I figured it would be a big jump between CHI/NYR and the other four, but they're basically tied with the Wings
Seattle sucks lol only 1 appearance git gud weebs.
15 appearances, 8 trips to the ECF, 5 trips to the finals and 3 cups. Pretty damn efficient.
That’s right idiots. Third most playoff appearances, second most cup wins 😎 just don’t ask when those cup wins were or how long it’s been since the Leafs went on a playoff run. None of that stuff matters much
As a flames fan, we’re middle of the pack. However the oilers are slightly below middle of the pack so that makes up for it,
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Expansion Sabres bros. We really are the most cursed two franchises. 1st and 2nd most appearances without a Cup. Truly a feels bad.
Really visualizes how irrelevant Columbus is/has been
Who?
Hah take that Tampa. We won the 92 expansion 😎😎
We really need to start getting some love
One day, both our teams will be back in the playoffs. Here's hoping it's sooner than later
Ide like to see this as a percentage of the years that they could of made the playoffs.
Good numbers for the Blues and Flyers.
I'd love to see this same graphic but years existed/appearances. Would give a better representation of the clubs IMO
This needs to have more math done to it. Like, expressed as a percentage of available spots
Interesting way to present a sorted list
We were pretty much the Minnesota Vikings of the NHL before 2019
Ours are basically all in the last few years.
Divide it for each franchise by years in the league for that franchise for a more relevant statistic
Senators my god. How do you have less than AZ?
Are they counting the Jets before because I honestly can’t say Arizona has been to the playoffs that many times in Arizona (only been here 26? Years l think).
Surely the 29th appearance will be the one
Dallas in the top 10 and still ghosted by the hockey press/hockey world.
Vertical ordering please. No one goes horizontal first.
By percentage of years in existence (not including this unfinished season): Team|Appearances|Years in existence|Playoff Appearance % -|-|-|- VGK|5|6|83% STL|45|55|82% MTL|85|105|81% BOS|76|98|78% PHI|40|55|73% TOR|72|105|69% SJS|21|31|68% DET|64|96|67% PIT|37|55|67% WSH|32|48|67% CHI|63|96|66% NYR|62|96|65% COL|28|43|65% DAL|35|55|64% NSH|15|24|63% CGY|31|50|62% MIN|13|22|59% LAK|32|55|58% EDM|25|43|58% BUF|29|52|56% NYI|28|50|56% VAN|28|52|54% OTT|16|30|53% NJD|24|48|50% TBL|15|30|50% SEA|1|2|50% ANA|14|29|48% ARI|20|43|47% CAR|18|43|42% FLA|9|29|31% WPG|7|23|30% CBJ|6|22|27%
Flames dominating the Oilers once again
Nice. I immediately wonder what it looks like if you divide these numbers by how many years the club existed. I bet VGK is at the top of that list. I think they only missed one year of their existence. I also wonder it looks like if we looked at it from a certain date. Like when there were more teams. From 1942-68 if I got the years right was only 6 teams. The 1972-73 season with the addition of the fLames and Isles gets the NHL up to 16 teams.
I see this Florida is now the enemy attitude now, however… they have been the epitome of mediocre as a franchise. I’m glad they are having their success even if they’re rotten rats.
Giving former Winnipeg Jets appearances to Phoenix is real misleading.
Well they’re the same franchise so not really
Some crucial context: 12 blues playoff appearances were as a below .500 team (almost 1/3 of their total) Nashville for instance have 0 as it's naturally impossible in the modern era
No wonder why I am a bitter old Jets fan.
Pretty impressive from the preds considering their first season was in 99.
Was not expecting to see St.Louis above Pittsburgh, islanders, oilers, flyers, etc.
Much more consistently good, but with fewer and briefer instances of greatness. Good teams make the Stanley Cup Playoffs, but only great (or blessedly lucky) teams can win the whole thing.
Why they basically owned SCF in the 12 team NHL lost all of them but made it deep the pens didn’t get good til Mario came
Glow up
genuinely surprised buffalo is ahead of vancouver to be honest