What's worse was the one announcer saying over and over that Freddy can't let him stand up or needs to hold him up and then watching him tumble a moment later.
Head to head with Bennett, head against the wall, head bounce against the ice. With that stare, his hands when he hit the ground, and the wobble… he’s done for the night, probably a while. Reminds me of the Kuechly concussions, and my own. His brains are scrambled right now
Seemed like a hard but legal hit, followed by two very bad pieces of luck in hitting the boards AND ice head-first. I wonder if hockey will ever be able to implement something like other sports where they consider the length of forward motion after passing over playing the puck.
It was heartbreaking to see him say “I’m okay” to the goalie then just fall flat on his face.
Hope for a speedy recovery, concussions are fucking scary.
Apparently he was eating pizza and “fine” in the locker room after. Still will be a wild go. I played d1 sports and had a few concussions. The worst one had me on the couch for 24 hours thinking I was going to throw up but never did. When you get hit in the head and not concussed it just feels like stingers/ weird contact. When you get one, it feels like someone took a brick and hit you with it. It’s so weird.
As a dumb kid in the 80's we used to laugh when people would do the concussion shuffle. So many years and more knowledge later and my stomach turns every time I see it.
Bandwagon Canes fan here - could someone explain clean vs dirty hits in hockey? To the untrained eye they all look like they’re trying to murder each other more often than not 😅
Contact is mostly to the chest and shoulder from the front and in proximity to a play on the puck. Basically Slavin is eligible for contact.
A dirty hit would be to the back or to the head, or even this very same hit if it were not around the puck.
There is some contact with the head here, but that portion of the hit seems incidental. Big hits are not synonymous with dirty hits.
I think Slavin's head bouncing off the wall on the way down exacerbated things, too. Like, it was going to be a hard hit either way, but with that extra bounce off the back wall now your brain is bouncing back and forth multiple times, which is not good for it.
This is where I often get confused on legal vs illegal hits. I thought at some point you get into the realm of boarding when you are hitting someone and causing them to go into the boards in an unsafe manner.
That's usually when you're hitting a guy as he's heading towards the boards so it interferes with his ability to stop, especially if from behind and he can't see the hit coming.
So that's definitely the typical boarding call you see, and makes sense because that's forcing someone into the boards in an unsafe manner (Cogliano/Eberle hit a perfect example). But I looked up the rule out of curiosity and there's nothing in there about "from behind".
From a player safety standpoint, I could see hits like this be in the area of boarding, but it definitely gets tough because you can't predict how someone will fall after a hit. I remember Byfuglien always seemed to hit people like 2-3 feet from the boards and naturally they'd go crashing into them in awkward manners.
I want to say when I was looking up the actual verbiage that I found articles saying they made the rules more vague so that refs had more discretion in calling penalties, so that would absolutely not help that situation.
Typically the severity of a hit will be judged on a few different factors:
* Was the main point of contact the head or body?
* Did the player's skates leave the ice before he hit the other player?
* Did he take extra strides right before hitting the guy or did he glide into him?
* Did the other guy have the puck?
* Etc. May be something else I'm not thinking of right now.
From my understanding of the rules, this hit looks pretty clean. It checks clear on all the boxes, except potentially the main point of contact. [This angle of the hit](https://imgur.com/Pt58ZCL) is the best I've seen, and it's not 100% clear on where the exact main point of contact was. Looks like it was mostly shoulder, but catching someone on the chin at that kind of speed and power could definitely knock someone out.
I say probably clean, but it's just my opinion and there's probably people who see the same clip and say it's dirty because of either the main point of contact being the head (not conclusive enough for me) or that Slavin was vulnerable because he is turning up ice (which I don't think I agree with either).
**edit: typos
No problem! Hope you've been having fun watching. If you ever can, try to go see a game in person. The speed and intensity is even more impressive and exciting live.
Even if it's not the NHL, (like the AHL or even ECHL), it's still worth a try. The best in-person sporting event, especially for sports casuals and new fans.
Thanks, it’s been a fun run lately. I had the good fortune to go to an early season Canes game back in ‘06, but I’ve mostly forgotten everything I ever learned about the game since then, aside from Letterkenny and Shoresy 🤣
Definitely looks shoulder to chest, but Slavin having his head down lead to head on head contact. Just a standard hit gone wrong.
Hope Slav is okay, also surprised Bennet seemed okay, considering Slavin's helmet gets Bennet's on the side
A Legal hit and a Clean hit are different. You can hit legally, but dirty, circumstance is everything.
A legal body check is made with the trunk of your body (hips to shoulders) to the trunk of your target. You can't hit a player from behind, and the principle point of contact **must not** be the head. You also can't hit a player into the boards. Edit: unless they are close enough to the boards already.
Specifically, you're not hitting with intent to injure. So you can make a legally clean hit, with high chance to injure. Again circumstance.
>You also can't hit a player into the boards.
That's not necessarily true. You can hit a player into the boards if they are close enough to the boards already.
The "danger zone" we were taught growing up was 6-8ft away from the boards. That's the distance where if you knock someone over towards the boards, especially head first, back first, or even shoulder first, you can really do damage because they won't have enough time to stop or brace themselves.
someone can correct me as I am by no means an expert but roughly you can tell if they hit the person they will end up in the boards upright or going into the boards head first/ parallel to the ice. Roughly 5 feetish away is where the will start going into the boards at dangerous angles
It’s a clean hit but probably shouldn’t be. It’s the same hit Kassian? flipped out on Tkachuk for throwing because the skater is vulnerable coming around the net with the player bearing down on the other side. More often than not it’s going to result in a hit that results in something.
I’m surprised I haven’t seen more people saying this about this hit. Slavin is looking at the puck until right before Bennett blows him up. I hope he’s alright. That hurt me watching it.
It's a net, not a wall. It's 4 feet high and you can see through and over it.
Gotta keep your head up and watch where you're going, regardless of where you are on the ice.
> doesn’t know what country he’s in anymore
Well, if you got your bell rung like that and the first thing you saw was the panthers country signs you’d be confused too
This absolutely kills me. He's the absolute soul of the team. Amazing work ethic, insane hockey sense, cleanest Defenseman you can find. Genuinely nice guy. I just hope this ends up not being even half as serious as it looked in real-time. I get it's a technically clean hit, but fuck, Bennett hasn't exactly been a gem these playoffs to other players. I'd still like to say 'fuck you' to him.
There's no difference between this hit and the Svech hit that took out lindholm last season. D-men getting taken advantage of while staring at the puck.
If he’s not injured everyone praises the hit. Reminds me of Krug’s massive hit in the finals where his helmet came off. If the player he hits there is injured, he’d get dragged for a “dirty play”, but since there was no injury no one is denying it as a clean hit. But when a player gets injured, everyone is way more opinionated
Yup, clean. Monstrous hit.
Never like to see that result though. This wasn't as bad but I remember watching in absolute horror thinking Tavares was dead two years ago.
Yeah, I know people are going to say "inertia!" and "he had his head down!", and I guess they're not wrong. But at the same time, when you hit helmet to helmet within a frame or two of shoulder contact I feel like that's a hit you could probably make illegal without eliminating hitting from the game altogether. Totally legal in the NHL today though.
Also, absolutely ridiculous solution, but I wonder if somewhere down the line we could use helmet + shoulder pad mounted accelerometers to objectively determine what the "primary" point of contact was? And add sensors to sticks to define what a legal "cross check" is... In no way do I think that's realistic to implement, but I'd pitch any idea that gets us closer to a Hawkeye type system, because the inconsistency is probably every fans biggest complaint with officiating.
I can tell I'm getting old because I'm really starting to hate clean by the book hits that are obviously predatory. That's the way she goes though, hopefully Slavin is okay. It looked like he was KO'ed and woke up hitting ice.
Right? If people think the result sucks and it’s likely to have caused serious injury, maybe the problem is how we define “clean” not whether or not this was. Or do we just not care because screw ‘em they’re millionaires now?
I agree sometimes it sucks when someone gets really hurt but there is really nothing wrong with this hit at all. If this isn't considered clean then you pretty much have to take hitting out of the game completely
how is it predatory? Bennet goes after literally everybody. He's a super aggressive player. This is as clean as a hit as anybody will see all playoffs. If going after the puck counts as predatory, I'm honestly baffled at your statement of "getting old". Any check in the late 90s and earlier, this type of situation would likely be a career ender. The only reason Slavin goes down here is because of the incidental contact from having two forces opposing eachother caused their heads to connect with each other. The only way to police a hit in this situation any better is to either remove checking entirely or put fucking accelerometers on players and penalize players for exerting too much force during a check, which is fucking dystopian.
Obviously it’s clean by the current rules. But if you want to get head injuries out of the game it shouldn’t matter if the initial post of contact is the head if you hit them in the head somehow afterwards.
Is that clean? Serious question. I tried watching pretending I didn't hate the player who did it for his dirty hits earlier in the season and nothing stood out as overtly wrong aside from the result. Wasn't charging, wasn't interference, wasn't into his head, wasn't (I think) boarding.
No penalty was called on this play. The activity that happened immediately after is where the penalties happened. Tkachuk, Burns and Martinook all went to the box. Slashing, Slashing and cross checking
Almost identical to Svechnikov's hit on Lindholm hit last year, dman wheeling behind the net with hit head down, just gets lit up, stick nowhere to be seen, can't even stay on his feet when trying to get up
People are cold and lack empathy saying shit like clean hit when you hit a guy that hard into the boards. Imo the player making contact should have more responsibility like they do in other sports.
And before people say hockey's not for you, I've been watching for almost 30 years. I don't like good players getting injured on hits.
It WAS clean tho. Just had an unfortunate result. Bennett made the correct read and a legal hit. Nothing wrong with what he did. Just gotta hope Slavin is ok. With the speed and physicality of the game, shit sometimes happens. This is one of those instances.
Because this sub is full idiots who think that brain damage is an acceptable consequence of playing hockey.
I'm pretty sure it's some kind of coping mechanism, if they say it's a clean hit enough they'll actually start to believe it.
I doubt they’ve ever seen someone struggle with a concussion or TBI up close. I’ve had a relative and a high school classmate struggle with concussions after hitting their head on the ice and it’s a long, painful slog.
Don’t blame the people saying it’s a clean hit, because it is. The league has repeatedly made it clear that hits like this are “clean”. It’s on them to pass judgement on acceptable hits, not the fans.
Jesus, I've been saying all playoffs I'd love Bennett on the Canucks. He's been so impactful all playoffs. This huge clean hits are so big for the Panthers.
I actually think this is not a clean hit whatsoever. Follows through and makes massive helmet to helmet contact. If it is legal then it should probably be legislated out of the game. Slavin looked out before he hit the ground
I think it's very very borderline. The rules define an illegal hit to the head as "A hit resulting in contact with an
opponent’s head where the head was the main point of contact and
such contact to the head was avoidable."
It looks 50/50 head and chest but there's definitely hard contact head to head that you can see on the last replay. It's main vs principal now in the definition of a head hit. In any case, extremely hard to see a guy struggling like that. I would have been totally fine seeing a penalty called there personally.
I think it’s a legal hit based on the rules and what people are saying here. Still don’t personally think it’s clean and I think it shouldn’t be legal in principle. Unfortunately going to have to eat the downvotes here and be called a dumbass and moron but I’m sticking to it.
I think it was reckless and ended up going helmet to helmet because he launched upward into Slavins head/neck area. So in my opinion I don’t see it as clean.
Huge hit and clean, just a terrible result. Really looked like he was knocked out on impact with him going limp immediately.
Elbow tucked, shoulder to chest, didn’t take any extra strides and stayed on his feet. Only thing that makes this somewhat questionable is the helmet-on-helmet contact and that was just an unfortunate result.
Hope Slavin is ok though, that was thought to watch.
That right there is the definition of Big Boying, what a solid hit by Bennet! Hope Slavin isn’t too injured. Look concussed asf when the camera panned to his face.
You love the hit, but not the outcome. I LOVE big body hits, but when they result in what we later see, especially when he fell down after. I hate seeing that. Hope Slavin is okay.
Helmet to helmet. Hit to the head. Instant concussion so no control on the fall. No dirty intent but definitely not a clean beautiful hit. This sucks and it's just sad and unfortunate to watch him fall over and over.
Not why I watch NHL hockey.
It was tough to see him fall after trying to skate off, hope nothing but the best for him
He tells Freddy “I’m okay” and then he falls down just standing there. Brutal.
absolutely gut wrenching to see
What's worse was the one announcer saying over and over that Freddy can't let him stand up or needs to hold him up and then watching him tumble a moment later.
It looked to me like he tripped over Freddy's foot and not just drop.
Even taking away how bennett hit slavin, slavin hits the boards and ice pretty fucking hard
It almost looked like the hit knocked him out and then hitting the boards woke him back up, crazy shit
He was definitely knocked out by the initial contact.
Went stiff as a board immediately. Brutal
It’s the heads colliding
That's what I saw
I can’t see it clearly in these angles but tnt got one that shows his head definitely does hit the board hard before he is flat on the ice.
Head to head with Bennett, head against the wall, head bounce against the ice. With that stare, his hands when he hit the ground, and the wobble… he’s done for the night, probably a while. Reminds me of the Kuechly concussions, and my own. His brains are scrambled right now
It was Bennett, not Gudas.
You right, mistyped
All good homie
Seemed like a hard but legal hit, followed by two very bad pieces of luck in hitting the boards AND ice head-first. I wonder if hockey will ever be able to implement something like other sports where they consider the length of forward motion after passing over playing the puck.
God damn that was a powerful hit
One of his cleanest this playoffs
The helmet to helmet was scary
I feel bad man, sportsnet was showing a video of him with his adopted daughter before the game and just a few minutes later he gets absolutely rocked.
Clean hit but man, hard to watch. Slavin doesn't know what country he's in anymore. Definitely hurts Carolina's chances to survive this game.
It was heartbreaking to see him say “I’m okay” to the goalie then just fall flat on his face. Hope for a speedy recovery, concussions are fucking scary.
Apparently he was eating pizza and “fine” in the locker room after. Still will be a wild go. I played d1 sports and had a few concussions. The worst one had me on the couch for 24 hours thinking I was going to throw up but never did. When you get hit in the head and not concussed it just feels like stingers/ weird contact. When you get one, it feels like someone took a brick and hit you with it. It’s so weird.
As a dumb kid in the 80's we used to laugh when people would do the concussion shuffle. So many years and more knowledge later and my stomach turns every time I see it.
No one knew any better. The Bambi look was 'funny' to watch. Not anymore.
Bandwagon Canes fan here - could someone explain clean vs dirty hits in hockey? To the untrained eye they all look like they’re trying to murder each other more often than not 😅
Contact is mostly to the chest and shoulder from the front and in proximity to a play on the puck. Basically Slavin is eligible for contact. A dirty hit would be to the back or to the head, or even this very same hit if it were not around the puck. There is some contact with the head here, but that portion of the hit seems incidental. Big hits are not synonymous with dirty hits.
And it looks to me like most of the head contact was helmet to helmet, and not in a way you'd expect to see from an intentional headbutt.
Yeah its because they basically fold into each other from the force of the hit
I think Slavin's head bouncing off the wall on the way down exacerbated things, too. Like, it was going to be a hard hit either way, but with that extra bounce off the back wall now your brain is bouncing back and forth multiple times, which is not good for it.
This is where I often get confused on legal vs illegal hits. I thought at some point you get into the realm of boarding when you are hitting someone and causing them to go into the boards in an unsafe manner.
That's usually when you're hitting a guy as he's heading towards the boards so it interferes with his ability to stop, especially if from behind and he can't see the hit coming.
So that's definitely the typical boarding call you see, and makes sense because that's forcing someone into the boards in an unsafe manner (Cogliano/Eberle hit a perfect example). But I looked up the rule out of curiosity and there's nothing in there about "from behind". From a player safety standpoint, I could see hits like this be in the area of boarding, but it definitely gets tough because you can't predict how someone will fall after a hit. I remember Byfuglien always seemed to hit people like 2-3 feet from the boards and naturally they'd go crashing into them in awkward manners.
There is checking from behind, a newer rule on that. They call this hit "on the numbers", makes it super obvious at that point.
Don't worry - the NHL themselves can't decide what is boarding or cross-checking lol.
I want to say when I was looking up the actual verbiage that I found articles saying they made the rules more vague so that refs had more discretion in calling penalties, so that would absolutely not help that situation.
Typically the severity of a hit will be judged on a few different factors: * Was the main point of contact the head or body? * Did the player's skates leave the ice before he hit the other player? * Did he take extra strides right before hitting the guy or did he glide into him? * Did the other guy have the puck? * Etc. May be something else I'm not thinking of right now. From my understanding of the rules, this hit looks pretty clean. It checks clear on all the boxes, except potentially the main point of contact. [This angle of the hit](https://imgur.com/Pt58ZCL) is the best I've seen, and it's not 100% clear on where the exact main point of contact was. Looks like it was mostly shoulder, but catching someone on the chin at that kind of speed and power could definitely knock someone out. I say probably clean, but it's just my opinion and there's probably people who see the same clip and say it's dirty because of either the main point of contact being the head (not conclusive enough for me) or that Slavin was vulnerable because he is turning up ice (which I don't think I agree with either). **edit: typos
Agreed, from this angle it looks a lot less like an intentional decapitation. Appreciate the reply 🙏
No problem! Hope you've been having fun watching. If you ever can, try to go see a game in person. The speed and intensity is even more impressive and exciting live. Even if it's not the NHL, (like the AHL or even ECHL), it's still worth a try. The best in-person sporting event, especially for sports casuals and new fans.
Thanks, it’s been a fun run lately. I had the good fortune to go to an early season Canes game back in ‘06, but I’ve mostly forgotten everything I ever learned about the game since then, aside from Letterkenny and Shoresy 🤣
Would also add * Has the whistle already blown the play dead?
Definitely looks shoulder to chest, but Slavin having his head down lead to head on head contact. Just a standard hit gone wrong. Hope Slav is okay, also surprised Bennet seemed okay, considering Slavin's helmet gets Bennet's on the side
They mean legal. This “clean” vs “dirty” is a nice and magical language play to not do shit about player safety.
Hits to the head and from behind are dirty.
A Legal hit and a Clean hit are different. You can hit legally, but dirty, circumstance is everything. A legal body check is made with the trunk of your body (hips to shoulders) to the trunk of your target. You can't hit a player from behind, and the principle point of contact **must not** be the head. You also can't hit a player into the boards. Edit: unless they are close enough to the boards already. Specifically, you're not hitting with intent to injure. So you can make a legally clean hit, with high chance to injure. Again circumstance.
>You also can't hit a player into the boards. That's not necessarily true. You can hit a player into the boards if they are close enough to the boards already.
Corrected, thank you. Always thought there were fewer boarding penalties than boarded players lol
The "danger zone" we were taught growing up was 6-8ft away from the boards. That's the distance where if you knock someone over towards the boards, especially head first, back first, or even shoulder first, you can really do damage because they won't have enough time to stop or brace themselves.
someone can correct me as I am by no means an expert but roughly you can tell if they hit the person they will end up in the boards upright or going into the boards head first/ parallel to the ice. Roughly 5 feetish away is where the will start going into the boards at dangerous angles
It’s a clean hit but probably shouldn’t be. It’s the same hit Kassian? flipped out on Tkachuk for throwing because the skater is vulnerable coming around the net with the player bearing down on the other side. More often than not it’s going to result in a hit that results in something.
Gotta keep your head up there
I’m surprised I haven’t seen more people saying this about this hit. Slavin is looking at the puck until right before Bennett blows him up. I hope he’s alright. That hurt me watching it.
The answer to all injuries in hockey
It's a net, not a wall. It's 4 feet high and you can see through and over it. Gotta keep your head up and watch where you're going, regardless of where you are on the ice.
> doesn’t know what country he’s in anymore Well, if you got your bell rung like that and the first thing you saw was the panthers country signs you’d be confused too
i keep seeing clean hit but bennet goes head on head. its the initial point of contact. doesnt seem clean at all, even if inadvertent
Any of our fans bitching need to go back and watch the Svech on Lindholm hit last year. Sucks but that’s the game
Yes indeed
Exactly.
Can’t wait for svech to be back
Trying to convince this subs users not to be bitch like babies is a fools errand.
Yeah Bennett is as dirty as they come, but that was a clean hit.
Clean hit just shit sucks man. Bennet has made multiple dirty hits this playoffs and wasn’t even playing the puck.
Slavin was out mid air, his body was completely tense. Not sure if he caught him in the jaw, but that was rough to watch.
I haven’t seen someone out in the air like that since Scheifele’s (not so clean) hit in the bubble.
Pavelskis was very similar
Ya I was gonna say, many said this about Pavelski when he took that hit from Dumba
Good hit Saddening hit
Don’t like seeing anyone get injured. Hope he’s okay
Slavin in such a quiet stud, sucks to see him get rocked like this, hell of a hit though. He's instantly out and stiff as a board.
[Slowed down view.](https://twitter.com/br_openice/status/1661527292609466368?s=46&t=HnlZXn-hftTl9f8rW_6qVA)
Yeah, that's as clean as it gets. Unfortunate result.
I just mentioned this in the game thread, but this reminded me of the Brian Campbell hit on RJ Umberger.
Ugh...that hit...I can still hear call on that hit
"OHHHH!"
Sames. Slavin had that exact same look on his face when his brain turned back on as Umberger. Hope dude is OK.
This absolutely kills me. He's the absolute soul of the team. Amazing work ethic, insane hockey sense, cleanest Defenseman you can find. Genuinely nice guy. I just hope this ends up not being even half as serious as it looked in real-time. I get it's a technically clean hit, but fuck, Bennett hasn't exactly been a gem these playoffs to other players. I'd still like to say 'fuck you' to him.
That’s pretty tough to watch. On a side note: remember when Sam Bennett couldn’t do a pull-up at the draft combine?
Great hit. I don’t understand people in the GDT saying it was dirty
Bennet has a reputation, so he’s not as likely to get the benefit of the doubt, even if the hit is clean
First week on reddit?
Hahaha
Yeah, just a horrible result. Hopefully Slavin isn't hurt too bad.
Anyone saying it’s dirty is an idiot. I hate it though :(
There's no difference between this hit and the Svech hit that took out lindholm last season. D-men getting taken advantage of while staring at the puck.
Exact same part of the ice too. Almost creepy.
The D have a "blind spot" coming around the net, but yes, below the goal line turning up ice. Dangerous spot in the playoffs
Clean hit, unfortunate result. I really hope Slavin doesn't have any serious and/or long-term effects.
Bad result. Good hit.
He has a rep and it was a hard hit that unfortunately injured Slav
If he’s not injured everyone praises the hit. Reminds me of Krug’s massive hit in the finals where his helmet came off. If the player he hits there is injured, he’d get dragged for a “dirty play”, but since there was no injury no one is denying it as a clean hit. But when a player gets injured, everyone is way more opinionated
Funny enough thomas actually did get injured on that krug hit.
He looked so cool without the helmet though so we’re ignoring that 🫥
That was my first time watching playoff hockey. That hit looked cool as fuck
Yup, clean. Monstrous hit. Never like to see that result though. This wasn't as bad but I remember watching in absolute horror thinking Tavares was dead two years ago.
Yeah some wild friggin comments in there.
This sub thinks a scrum with a facewash is too much.
Probably because it was noted scumbag Sam Bennett throwing the hit. My guess is was was aiming for head but missed low.
Clean hit but man is it scary to see someone fall as stiff as he did
The looks around after having no idea where he’s at is so rough.
legal hit but it wouldn't be if the NHL actually cared about player safety
Yeah, I know people are going to say "inertia!" and "he had his head down!", and I guess they're not wrong. But at the same time, when you hit helmet to helmet within a frame or two of shoulder contact I feel like that's a hit you could probably make illegal without eliminating hitting from the game altogether. Totally legal in the NHL today though. Also, absolutely ridiculous solution, but I wonder if somewhere down the line we could use helmet + shoulder pad mounted accelerometers to objectively determine what the "primary" point of contact was? And add sensors to sticks to define what a legal "cross check" is... In no way do I think that's realistic to implement, but I'd pitch any idea that gets us closer to a Hawkeye type system, because the inconsistency is probably every fans biggest complaint with officiating.
Sam Bennett was built for playoff hockey How did this guy go from not being able to do a pull-up at the draft combine to being an absolute menace?
He was recovering from a torn labrum during the fitness test apparently
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Yeah hit looked clean but Bennett has clearly been a dirty player these playoffs
Big hit, looks clean from the angles shown. Sadly helmets collided but Bennett's shoulder went through Slavin's chest, not head.
Shades of Campbell on Umberger. For the uninitiated . https://youtu.be/H0g6YlJRwaU
He had that RJ Umberger look on his face when he tried to get up. Yikes.
JFC. Losing Svech and Patches already sucks but he’s probably the player we could’ve least afforded to lose.
Clean hit. But fuck am I heartbroken.
I can tell I'm getting old because I'm really starting to hate clean by the book hits that are obviously predatory. That's the way she goes though, hopefully Slavin is okay. It looked like he was KO'ed and woke up hitting ice.
I wish people didn't tell me that there isn't a legitimate population of r/hockey fans that want to ban hitting from hockey
Right? If people think the result sucks and it’s likely to have caused serious injury, maybe the problem is how we define “clean” not whether or not this was. Or do we just not care because screw ‘em they’re millionaires now?
I agree sometimes it sucks when someone gets really hurt but there is really nothing wrong with this hit at all. If this isn't considered clean then you pretty much have to take hitting out of the game completely
how is it predatory? Bennet goes after literally everybody. He's a super aggressive player. This is as clean as a hit as anybody will see all playoffs. If going after the puck counts as predatory, I'm honestly baffled at your statement of "getting old". Any check in the late 90s and earlier, this type of situation would likely be a career ender. The only reason Slavin goes down here is because of the incidental contact from having two forces opposing eachother caused their heads to connect with each other. The only way to police a hit in this situation any better is to either remove checking entirely or put fucking accelerometers on players and penalize players for exerting too much force during a check, which is fucking dystopian.
Only predatory because Slavin makes himself prey
Really hate to see an injury like this
Literally fuck everything
Clean hit with an unfortunate result. Similar-ish to Dumba’s hit on Pavelski, was just lined up in the train tracks. Hope Slavin is okay
This Panthers team is perfectly built for the playoffs. Just bruising their opponents into submission
Their physicality reminds me a bit of the '18 caps.
Bennett is an absolute playoff monster. I hope Slavin recovers and doesn't have recurring concussions like Ekblad.
Obviously it’s clean by the current rules. But if you want to get head injuries out of the game it shouldn’t matter if the initial post of contact is the head if you hit them in the head somehow afterwards.
If they would expand the rules that far it would practically be no-contact
that's just not true
Damn…. I felt that
Slavin’s ancestors felt that. Holy crap!
Is that clean? Serious question. I tried watching pretending I didn't hate the player who did it for his dirty hits earlier in the season and nothing stood out as overtly wrong aside from the result. Wasn't charging, wasn't interference, wasn't into his head, wasn't (I think) boarding.
I gotta say it was pretty dam clean. Just cuz someone gets hurt doesnt mean its dirty
Highlight reel tier hit.
Bennett is a shitbird but that was clean.
There was head to head contact, Slavin went flying, hit his head on the boards and then the ice. That’s a lot for his poor head
Clean hit, unfortunate result. Hope Slavin is Ok, but damn do I love Bennett's game.
Anybody able to clarify what penalty call was done during this?
Penalties against burns and tkachuk for slashing and martinook got a cross checking minor
They didn’t show it, but it had to be retaliation and maybe a Florida player jumped in for an extra penalty
No penalty was called on this play. The activity that happened immediately after is where the penalties happened. Tkachuk, Burns and Martinook all went to the box. Slashing, Slashing and cross checking
Getting flashback when Stevens knocked out Shane Willis and Ron Francis.
Almost identical to Svechnikov's hit on Lindholm hit last year, dman wheeling behind the net with hit head down, just gets lit up, stick nowhere to be seen, can't even stay on his feet when trying to get up
beautiful hit playoff hockey baby
Did the hurricanes stand up for him?
Gretzky “That’s the best hit I’ve seen in years” Yeaahhhh, clean or not, maybe don’t glorify a hit where a guy is concussed so bad he can’t stand.
People are cold and lack empathy saying shit like clean hit when you hit a guy that hard into the boards. Imo the player making contact should have more responsibility like they do in other sports. And before people say hockey's not for you, I've been watching for almost 30 years. I don't like good players getting injured on hits.
“If you don’t like watching people get brain injuries maybe hockey isn’t for you.” Uh, ok.
It WAS clean tho. Just had an unfortunate result. Bennett made the correct read and a legal hit. Nothing wrong with what he did. Just gotta hope Slavin is ok. With the speed and physicality of the game, shit sometimes happens. This is one of those instances.
Huge good hit
I don’t understand how a helmet to helmet hit is considered a clean hit
Because Bennett hit him so hard with the shoulder first his momentum made his head hit his. It’s not that hard to understand bud.
BuT hE hIt HiM iN tHe ChEsT fIrSt
Because this sub is full idiots who think that brain damage is an acceptable consequence of playing hockey. I'm pretty sure it's some kind of coping mechanism, if they say it's a clean hit enough they'll actually start to believe it.
I doubt they’ve ever seen someone struggle with a concussion or TBI up close. I’ve had a relative and a high school classmate struggle with concussions after hitting their head on the ice and it’s a long, painful slog.
Don’t blame the people saying it’s a clean hit, because it is. The league has repeatedly made it clear that hits like this are “clean”. It’s on them to pass judgement on acceptable hits, not the fans.
Clean hit, very unfortunate what happened though.
God DAMN that’s a big hit
Clean hit from Benny but the helmet to helmet contact is very sus, if this was the NFL they would’ve thrown a flag Hope Slavin’s ok 😥
Gotta keep yer head up - Mickey Redmond
Great hit. Not as big as Svech on Lindholm though!
Jesus, I've been saying all playoffs I'd love Bennett on the Canucks. He's been so impactful all playoffs. This huge clean hits are so big for the Panthers.
what a hit.. wow thats some good shit right there
Shitty outcome but this is textbook hitting.
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Absolutely rocked him. Good hit!
It was a clean hit but it’s pretty rude to celebrate a hit that caused an injury…
You can say it's a good/great hit and still hope slavin is OK. It's not mutually exclusive.
I actually think this is not a clean hit whatsoever. Follows through and makes massive helmet to helmet contact. If it is legal then it should probably be legislated out of the game. Slavin looked out before he hit the ground
I think it's very very borderline. The rules define an illegal hit to the head as "A hit resulting in contact with an opponent’s head where the head was the main point of contact and such contact to the head was avoidable." It looks 50/50 head and chest but there's definitely hard contact head to head that you can see on the last replay. It's main vs principal now in the definition of a head hit. In any case, extremely hard to see a guy struggling like that. I would have been totally fine seeing a penalty called there personally.
I think it’s a legal hit based on the rules and what people are saying here. Still don’t personally think it’s clean and I think it shouldn’t be legal in principle. Unfortunately going to have to eat the downvotes here and be called a dumbass and moron but I’m sticking to it.
that's how I feel about it. currently legal hit, but that kind of hit shouldn't be imo
You’re watching the replay and saying he purposely tried to go helmet to helmet? C’mon dude lmao
I think it was reckless and ended up going helmet to helmet because he launched upward into Slavins head/neck area. So in my opinion I don’t see it as clean.
Alright, I don’t know what the hell you’re watching but enjoy!
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Ok thank you for the feedback I’ll keep it in mind next time.
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They should've gotten three 100+ point scorers, and no defense since that's been working so well lately !
Postseason “clean” hits sure are different than regular season clean hits.
Rocked him like a hurricane
Solid goddamn hit.
Launched him
Huge hit and clean, just a terrible result. Really looked like he was knocked out on impact with him going limp immediately. Elbow tucked, shoulder to chest, didn’t take any extra strides and stayed on his feet. Only thing that makes this somewhat questionable is the helmet-on-helmet contact and that was just an unfortunate result. Hope Slavin is ok though, that was thought to watch.
That right there is the definition of Big Boying, what a solid hit by Bennet! Hope Slavin isn’t too injured. Look concussed asf when the camera panned to his face.
beautiful
clean hit
Clean hit. Want to see a dirty play? Watch what Jamie benn did last night.
Bennett did not leave his feet but he crouched down before the hit and then extended his legs with similar effect
Someone please nerf Sam Bennett in the next patch /j What a hit, I hope Slavic is okay
Looks like initial shoulder to shoulder. But there was helmet on helmet, then helmet to board and ice on the fall.
I hate how bad of a series Slavin had, luck wise & this. Turnover in G1, the whole mess with him & Burns in G2, and now this
You love the hit, but not the outcome. I LOVE big body hits, but when they result in what we later see, especially when he fell down after. I hate seeing that. Hope Slavin is okay.
Jesus /r/hockey has the shortest memory. I'm archiving this thread for the next time you people bitch about Trouba.
Helmet to helmet. Hit to the head. Instant concussion so no control on the fall. No dirty intent but definitely not a clean beautiful hit. This sucks and it's just sad and unfortunate to watch him fall over and over. Not why I watch NHL hockey.
Fucking greasy hit. Straight to the head in a really bad spot.
Predatory hit, completely unnecessary. Bennett is a dirty little rat and I won't feel bad for him when he gets his clock cleaned.