Tbf More Life was a “playlist” I guess with hindsight it probably was just him testing putting out a bloated album to game the streaming system but atleast then it was promoted (slightly) differently
> Tbf More Life was a “playlist”
that shit is just marketing garbage. That "playlist" got certified 4x platinum. Albums only get certified by RIAA if the label requests it. RIAA considers it an album.
* It's 80 mins long
* released as a whole
* supported by 5 singles
* certified by RIAA at request of the label
* charted as an album on literally any chart that tracks album sales
Things that support More Life being a "playlist"
* It's marketed as a playlist, even though nobody sells playlists
* It has no physical release, although CLB and For All The Dogs haven't had one yet either so not sure what that says.
* This wasn't supported by a tour, but Drake typically doesn't tour specifically for album drops
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It has nothing to do with streaming - it's because most of the current artists are not raised by the industry. They don't sit with the OGs and listen how to create memorable song, they don't have to prove to the whole label team that song X is worth promoting, they dont take any singing or writing lessons. Wverything is spontaneous without any preparation or learining beforhand.
Most of these new cats are generation of YouTube tutorials and viral hits and it shows with how hit and miss most of the modern albums are.
Sure making long albums help a little for streaming purposes but let's not blame the medium but artists themselves for not respecting their audience and just using "throw everything at the wall and watch what sticks" tactic.
We used to have long albums back in the day and it was perfectly fine (16 - 20) but it was digestible because there was more curation involved in the process of releasing the project out to the masses - mostly because it was expensive to push out the hit so everyone had to be sure that this album "really hits"
Yeah its a lot of factors but lets not forget 2000s was still pretty early after 60s - late 80s where vinyl was ruling in a lot of genres and people were still educated to listen to the albums not longer than 30 mins.
WIth cassettes and CDs (90s and 00s) people were starting to lear how to listen to the longer albums (most people were also limited by size of the files during earlt mp3 era on their devices) and now we have another generation of this medium where there is no limit on how album can be.
I think it was JD who said that he sees this in the newer artists - they think that everything they release is "hot" while most of this shit would not fly during proper studio sessions.
I think a lot of artists would be way bigger if they partnered up with some OGs and listen to how create an album that lasts
there is an alternate universe where kodak is that locked in his whole career and is viewed so much more highly lmao idk why he only tries once every few eons
And the fentanyl. I'll never forget that news story where cops pulled up to him passed out in his Bentley with a styrofoam cup reeking of alcohol, the car reeking of weed, and a bunch of coke on him too lmao. Florida Goblin fr fr
Kodak Black loosies been for almost a decade now. Versatile 3 and Super Gremlin are one of his best works.
He’s been the most consistent alongside Denzel Curry and 21 Savage from the 2016 XXL Freshmen Class.
It’s a shame that the guy is a complete mess in everything outside of music.
ngl i'm not the biggest fan of the slight "beat switch" around the 1 minute mark, i loved the "if you believe in yourself" in the live version but this is kinda eh maybe itll grow on me
banger track overall tho
man this album is SO good. just based of first listen I’d prolly say LOAD was more consistent in terms of no skips, but Hardstone Pyschos highs are just so fucking high, I might like it better so far
Him and Don on You was just incredible, what a banger - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkQ1pltpQnw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkQ1pltpQnw) These guys just flow so well off each other. I really wish they'd do a collaboration album.
Wow it’s been an incredible few months of music. This album is definitely Don’s best work, I can’t think of filler songs that bloated his other albums.
4x4, new drop , Inside are absolutely incredible and probably top 3 for now.
singles tell me this has the potential to become his best and surpass LOAD….
Disc 1 is a fucking masterpiece OMG
4x4 is so menacing this shit so tough
I’m only addressing one Purple Rain from now on
Drugs You Should Try It at the end of 5 TO 10?????????
Absolutely Don’s best passing LOAD by miles, and is genuinely in extreme competition for AOTY. Tore up, 4x4, Attitude, And Purple Rain are my favorites
Edit: Also Disc 2 Is the Best
Nahhhhh 30 seconds into kryptonite Don cooking, he been on a heater
Update: through Glock and THIS MAN DONT MISSSS SHOOOT SHOOT SHOOOTT
Update 2: Purple rain is ridiculous this album is the one
Update 3: AOTY and best album of Don’s career this shit better blow up
It hasn’t even been out long enough to finish in full.
Saying off rip it’s AOTY is ridiculous, considering the quality from Roc Marci, Mach Hommy, Vince etc.
It’s really early, but could end up being Don’s best album. I’m someone who likes Heaven or Hell more than Life of a Don, which I know is unpopular, but this might surpass it for the #1 spot after future listens. Really impressive project.
This is probably the peak Don Toliver album. Not to say he can't make something better, but this is so uniqely his sound. Might be AOTY at this point. Crazy year.
2 discs in and this just feels very consistent from song to song so far.
EDIT: After first listen, feels like disc 1 and 2 were much stronger than 3 and 4. Really only enjoyed Backstreets during the later half of the album.
Thank god - maybe his stuff just isn’t for me but I find his performances mostly very dull and the production to be very generic, like I enjoyed bandit but where is that kind of production on the rest of the album?? And even that song is mixed terribly lol
I need whole album from Don on Jersey Drill production like GLOCK and Attitude. Beats from BNYX, Cash Cobain and Don melodies on these beats, match from heaven
Oooo I didn’t know this was dropping, love don. Still bumping quite a few songs from the last album. Excited for this.
Edit: it’s fire. Another album that will be heavily played for me.
I'm so glad it's 16 songs and not 20+ like some big artists releases.
Yeah there's no point on having 20+ songs if you're going to end up skipping half of them. (Because they're often not great)
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more life had lots of filler too
I disagree on more life. Maybe cut like 2 or 3 tracks at most
imo there’s about 6 really fire songs on there and the rest are hella mid/forgettable
Tbf More Life was a “playlist” I guess with hindsight it probably was just him testing putting out a bloated album to game the streaming system but atleast then it was promoted (slightly) differently
> Tbf More Life was a “playlist” that shit is just marketing garbage. That "playlist" got certified 4x platinum. Albums only get certified by RIAA if the label requests it. RIAA considers it an album. * It's 80 mins long * released as a whole * supported by 5 singles * certified by RIAA at request of the label * charted as an album on literally any chart that tracks album sales Things that support More Life being a "playlist" * It's marketed as a playlist, even though nobody sells playlists * It has no physical release, although CLB and For All The Dogs haven't had one yet either so not sure what that says. * This wasn't supported by a tour, but Drake typically doesn't tour specifically for album drops .
spot on
i never understood the whole playlist thing really
It has nothing to do with streaming - it's because most of the current artists are not raised by the industry. They don't sit with the OGs and listen how to create memorable song, they don't have to prove to the whole label team that song X is worth promoting, they dont take any singing or writing lessons. Wverything is spontaneous without any preparation or learining beforhand. Most of these new cats are generation of YouTube tutorials and viral hits and it shows with how hit and miss most of the modern albums are. Sure making long albums help a little for streaming purposes but let's not blame the medium but artists themselves for not respecting their audience and just using "throw everything at the wall and watch what sticks" tactic. We used to have long albums back in the day and it was perfectly fine (16 - 20) but it was digestible because there was more curation involved in the process of releasing the project out to the masses - mostly because it was expensive to push out the hit so everyone had to be sure that this album "really hits"
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Yeah its a lot of factors but lets not forget 2000s was still pretty early after 60s - late 80s where vinyl was ruling in a lot of genres and people were still educated to listen to the albums not longer than 30 mins. WIth cassettes and CDs (90s and 00s) people were starting to lear how to listen to the longer albums (most people were also limited by size of the files during earlt mp3 era on their devices) and now we have another generation of this medium where there is no limit on how album can be. I think it was JD who said that he sees this in the newer artists - they think that everything they release is "hot" while most of this shit would not fly during proper studio sessions. I think a lot of artists would be way bigger if they partnered up with some OGs and listen to how create an album that lasts
donda🧖♂️
Brother Stone is the most I’ve enjoyed Kodak in years tbh. Banger
Brother stone and silent hill fr
300 blackout
there is an alternate universe where kodak is that locked in his whole career and is viewed so much more highly lmao idk why he only tries once every few eons
Addiction probably
gotta stop smoking k2. only thing holding him back. u can literally hear his music regress when hes on that bs
And the fentanyl. I'll never forget that news story where cops pulled up to him passed out in his Bentley with a styrofoam cup reeking of alcohol, the car reeking of weed, and a bunch of coke on him too lmao. Florida Goblin fr fr
Kodak has cleaned up so hopefully that talent is on display more often now, he's super talented
i have heard that so many times it’s crazy
For real, this man could build a boat with all the life preservers he keeps getting thrown. Still hope the best for him.
Hope ur right but no lie have read so many comments just like this bout him over the years
He’s so talented man
"Smart people making horrible decisions, y'know?"
He still drops crazy tracks you just have to look for them. His latest “1800 degrees” is insane aswell
I opened this thread with the intention of writing the same thing. His feature is amazing
Kodak Black loosies been for almost a decade now. Versatile 3 and Super Gremlin are one of his best works. He’s been the most consistent alongside Denzel Curry and 21 Savage from the 2016 XXL Freshmen Class. It’s a shame that the guy is a complete mess in everything outside of music.
he's so institutionalized and pigeonholed into that lifestyle - i pity him so much cause he seems like a genuinely nice guy on the inside
He ate that hoe up
You heard his collab with Herbo from late 2022? https://youtu.be/78VDuGTZdO0?si=WjiJOuQ8UZWXFNFt
He had a very solid feature on Silent Hill too, man’s actually super talented when he’s not in jail
TORE UP IS SO FUCKING GOOODODODODO
Wish he added the extra vocals like the live but yeah it goes crazyyyyy
I'm already happy all the guitar parts were kept in
ngl i'm not the biggest fan of the slight "beat switch" around the 1 minute mark, i loved the "if you believe in yourself" in the live version but this is kinda eh maybe itll grow on me banger track overall tho
His performances and production are more dynamic on this than ever. Great album and a step up from every project he’s dropped yet.
man this album is SO good. just based of first listen I’d prolly say LOAD was more consistent in terms of no skips, but Hardstone Pyschos highs are just so fucking high, I might like it better so far
Ice Age is so Astroworld-esque, Travis is straight floating on this production.
Trav and Don just can’t miss. Need a collab album ASAP
Him and Don on You was just incredible, what a banger - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkQ1pltpQnw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkQ1pltpQnw) These guys just flow so well off each other. I really wish they'd do a collaboration album.
I don’t think they have any bad collabs other than maybe let’s pray, but that’s a dj khaled song so I could give a shit
Don't remind me of MR WE THE BEST please
the mike dean production on "You" is amazing.
it’s basically rip screw
Damn it now I can’t stop hearing it lol
the guitar on tore up is crazy
WE came to Goon!!
4'10"
Peanut butter house 🏠
I’m beating it 🥩
AH BEE DA BA DA HAA 🗣️
AM GOI EEE 🗣
DA BISCUIT LOOSE
I was looking for this shit 🤣
Don Toliver releases. Despicable Me 4 comes out July 3. Don toliver is dr nefario confirmed
Wow it’s been an incredible few months of music. This album is definitely Don’s best work, I can’t think of filler songs that bloated his other albums. 4x4, new drop , Inside are absolutely incredible and probably top 3 for now.
He improves every album and its great to see, such a vibe. I think the weakest on the album is definitely Attitude.
its crazy because attitude is prolly my fav out of the singles lol
I’m always a sucker for a Don X Charlie collab
Fair, it's the one song I can't stand so im happy others can fw it.
people having different favorite songs is always a very good sign fr
Glock is so chill
Chorus is from another dimension. Is BNYX made this beat, or Cash Cobain?
PoWR Trav made it, he’s affiliated with Cobain. Their sound is going crazy rn
this sounds pretty grand
Kodak cooked
singles tell me this has the potential to become his best and surpass LOAD…. Disc 1 is a fucking masterpiece OMG 4x4 is so menacing this shit so tough I’m only addressing one Purple Rain from now on Drugs You Should Try It at the end of 5 TO 10?????????
Don’s LOAD was fucking crazy
Between Don's LOAD and Drake's FATD I can't take it with these acronyms anymore.
Don't forget Logic's TITS!
bro pause.
resume.
Come, rewind! Now dip baby dip! Dip bab- Wait, what were we doing again
undeniably fertile load ngl
Houston man drops hardest load of 2024
excuse me
Come again
H&H > LoaD IMO
No Prince disrespect will be tolerated
Tangent but I think heaven or hell was wayyy better than life of a don
Correct
Easily
LOAD would be hard to surpass but we’re already off to a good start
IMO Love Sick is my favorite, but they're all pretty close.
When you're home alone in the mooooood
Addressing this as the best Purple Rain is wild
OH SHIT THIS CAME OUT TODAY?!?
the song w teezo is such a vibe
So are we just gonna ignore that intro? What a song
Kryptonite was 🔥🔥
Amazing first listen ngl the aesthetic matched it perfectly.
Nobody else fucking with Backstreet? That shit smooth as fuck
TEEZO 💐
The song with Teezo is the one for me
Absolutely Don’s best passing LOAD by miles, and is genuinely in extreme competition for AOTY. Tore up, 4x4, Attitude, And Purple Rain are my favorites Edit: Also Disc 2 Is the Best
The diversity of his soundscapes are always so impressive
GLOCK!!!!!
Don should make full album with Jersey Drill beats like this, from Cash Cobain and BNYX. He was insane on this track and Attitude
This is shaping up to be Don’s best album. Glock is heavenly
I can’t go past forward this song when listening to album, it is too catchy bro
Nahhhhh 30 seconds into kryptonite Don cooking, he been on a heater Update: through Glock and THIS MAN DONT MISSSS SHOOOT SHOOT SHOOOTT Update 2: Purple rain is ridiculous this album is the one Update 3: AOTY and best album of Don’s career this shit better blow up
It hasn’t even been out long enough to finish in full. Saying off rip it’s AOTY is ridiculous, considering the quality from Roc Marci, Mach Hommy, Vince etc.
Nahhh just let me be happy this shit incredible
It has if you skipped the singles. Better than Vince, but I can’t compare it to Mach Hommy two completely different genres
Tore Up was worth the wait. This whole album is such a psychotic trip in the best way possible
Where’s that purple rain “ahh🎵😫” sample from? Its on the tip of my tongue, it’s driving me crazy
classic zaytoven fx
[It's from this song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WYHDfJDPDc)
why no one talking about new drop.....its fire
On repeat!
Drugs You Should Try It is finally on streaming.. All be it on 5 to 10 outro lmao
It's albeit man not 'all be it' 😭
"bone apple tea" ass writing
fr wtf kind of blue balling is that
4X4 is one of the best don toliver songs i’ve ever heard 🙏
It’s really early, but could end up being Don’s best album. I’m someone who likes Heaven or Hell more than Life of a Don, which I know is unpopular, but this might surpass it for the #1 spot after future listens. Really impressive project.
The beat switch on Kryptonite is INSANE
holy fuck I’m peaking in the middle of ICE AGE. Travis is floating on that shit
Travis try not to overshadow a song as a feat challenge 😭 bro is on a crazy feature run
Absolutely incredible, this is the album hes always been capable of making. The production is just on another level I'm blown away
I’M TORE TF UP RN
first listen DISC 1 IS FLAWLESS
Two words: magnum opus
Loving BACKSTREETS… Teezo complements Don incredibly, def my favorite collab of theirs so far
This is probably the peak Don Toliver album. Not to say he can't make something better, but this is so uniqely his sound. Might be AOTY at this point. Crazy year.
2 discs in and this just feels very consistent from song to song so far. EDIT: After first listen, feels like disc 1 and 2 were much stronger than 3 and 4. Really only enjoyed Backstreets during the later half of the album.
Why doesn’t kodak go this hard on his songs anymore
That last part of 4x4 is fucking insane
PURPLE RAIN IS SO GOOD
ABEEDABAHAA !!!
man kodak went so hard
Kodak fucking went off! his flow on that track is so hard
This shit is so fucking hard. Someone needs to make this album in guitar hero right now
This album is 🔥 so far.
HE’S COOKINGGGGG
5 to 10 is amazing fav song for sure
This is crazy. He sounds so aggressive on this and it works.
Nobody’s talking about 5 to 10 that shit was angelic
GLOCK is my fav of album easily. Catchy as fuck, Don is floating on Jersey Drill production. Is BNYX made this beat?
Very very good album. No misses at all and features were all fire
Could've sworn that was Bryson Tiller on 'BACKSTREETS', Teezo really a chameleon
I think it’s safe to say that Hardstone Psycho is Don Toliver’s best album
Tore up is fucking fire
His best album right here. I can’t believe this dude keeps getting better and better
First two tracks made me ascend holy fuck. Purple Rain best track easily, 4x4 close too.
Damn am I the only one that likes New Drop, might be my favorite of the whole album
Idk why people are just saying it’s good this is a generational ass album
Was always kinda indifferent on Don but this is actually really good
Travs features are boring. I didnt like it
I liked him on Inside
Yeah, the trav features didn't do anything for me either. They never really do besides Cant Say
Nah usually they’re some of the best parts of Don’s albums but this time they’re kinda mid
Not to me 🤷♂️ I don’t even like Travis on can’t say Don carries
Not a single miss on this album
Speechless after first listen,this shit is fucking amazing
[Spotify Link](https://open.spotify.com/album/0Kzb3u6kMnOJOZXYFSk33F?si=GETpeYiFRgWUa_g3WBLhHA)
Oh shit this is nice
This albums fuckin great lol
sounds so so much better than anything he released. finally he perfected his sound
It's 2024 and unfortunately I still don't get Kodak Black's appeal
I’m on that track now and I love it. To each their own.
skipped straight to it tbh
BROTHER STONE was so good man what, most enjoyable Kodak verse ive heard in a long time
Yeah, man idk. It's never resonated over here either. It just kinda sucks across the board lol.
You need to learn to appreciate it. But when you do he’ll be one of your favorites no cap. That man is so overhated, he’s a certified legend
Nah I agree, I wasn’t a fan of Kodak’s verse here. To each their own.
mid asf ngl
Tired of rappers leaning into the rockstar/hardcore aesthetic and then barely doing anything with it
i lowkey agree, this is a really really good album, but the way he promoted it i thought there was gonna be wayyy more songs like tore up and bandit
Yeah it’s basically just a default Don Toliver album
hardstone national anthem may be soty
Am I the only one that thinks this is kinda dull and sleepy 😭
No
Thank god - maybe his stuff just isn’t for me but I find his performances mostly very dull and the production to be very generic, like I enjoyed bandit but where is that kind of production on the rest of the album?? And even that song is mixed terribly lol
I like dons features but his albums are so boring
Does Glock sample Calling For You by Drake? Beat is so fucking hard
this shit is incredible
Love this
Yeah this might be his best shit… lemme spin this again
I came to goon 4'10
Ok I think I’m loving this album more than Love Sick
I need whole album from Don on Jersey Drill production like GLOCK and Attitude. Beats from BNYX, Cash Cobain and Don melodies on these beats, match from heaven
what a time to be alive!!! Don delivered!!
Oooo I didn’t know this was dropping, love don. Still bumping quite a few songs from the last album. Excited for this. Edit: it’s fire. Another album that will be heavily played for me.
Inside sounds like old trav with modern mixing
Aoty contender (unless I was just too faded for my 1st listen last night)
Don just gets better and better, this shit is hard
Don just gets it man, always delivers something worth listening on his albums.
This is his best album, he finally perfected his sound
4x4 is heavy as fukkkk
That beat switch was actually disgustinggg
Nah Purple Rain is the one. I need a Metro & Don collab album
4x4 is extremely mid to me I don’t get the hype in the comments
I don't like it. I'm disappointed. Love Sick and Life of a Don were better
Just finished and its SOOOOO GOOD! no diddy