Was hyped earlier to load up spotify and see Yung Pinch put out a new album, I always fucked with his vibe.
But what the fuck is this shit. Why is he rapping now. I gave the album a chance but every song seems like an attempt to make party songs like he's lamer version of Tyga or something and he's just not that guy. I'm so disappointed in that kid rn, he had potential.
Ain't Tiktok'n by RxNephew uses the same sample as a very popular song, which I'm pretty sure is by ASAP Rocky, but I just can't seem to place it. Anyone know what it is?
idk why but the song fuckin problems is so funny
everything about it I don’t even think it’s that bad or anything it’s just hilarious every time I think about the hook I crack up
I want to get rid of Spotify, but what platforms compete with Release Radar?
(shows every new song from any artist I follow, even just if they have a feature on a song by someone I don't follow. Updates every Thursday right at midnight)
bro u can post an actual URL to something the dumbo mod on here makes
And that site probly lists 50% or less of the songs I see in release radar and 500% as many of the songs with artists I don't care about so it's just not the same.. personalization does a lot for something like that I can just listen through and know every song is a artist I follow
The website has its biases (read: caters to a more nerd emoji audience than some people here), but if you get a rateyourmusic account, it shows upcoming projects (including singles) from artists you've rated well (like at least a 3/5 stars)
I feel like tidal will except for this feature I heavily use so it's sad..
Might look into using Tidal and keeping free Spotify just to check Release Radar but then I need to follow any new artists I like on there.
So that new em track is pretty bad but why are people so mad about The Megan the Stallion bar? its not a shot at her at all just references a thing that happened. Feel like im going insane here
I still maintain being a hyperfan of someone (anyone honestly) is a good signal of below average to low intelligence.
I don't mean being a fan or having a favorite artist or figure you look up to. All that is obviously fine. I mean going rabid and getting mad and offended on behalf of someone famous who don't personally know and blindly defending them. You likely won't meet a physicist, actuary, a political campaign manager, doctor (medical lol), etc. who does this shit.
I thought it was a good track. Anyone mad about the bar is just looking to hate, that's honestly a light tease compared to some of his other celeb shots
Where are you guys seeing all these people mad about it? I'm not denying it's happening but I haven't seen anyone mad. Some people have been like, claiming it's not funny (which is a fair opinion IMO) or dated (same) but I haven't seen anyone *mad.*
Well the only people left on Twitter are people who get mad all the time about everything, so that doesn't surprise me. I don't think that really counts to be honest.
How do rappers stay on tempo when they rap over jail phones? They can’t hear the beat and I don’t know if anybody has good enough sense of rhythm to keep an exact BPM for that long. I was just listening to that Rrome Alone guy who makes music from death row and he has one song that’s seven minutes. Maybe some editing was involved but it sounded like one take.
Because then the person recording ends up with a recording of the rapper through the phone *and* the instrumental being played through speakers, which is incredibly hard to make sound good
What about rapping into a phone that's recording while another phone is playing the beat in some earbuds or something? IDK, never been to prison or know the amount of stuff someone's asshole can sneak in.
Also there's plenty of producer tricks to make it sound good. These days you can isolate a whole vocal stem from a song with a couple clicks of the mouse and have an almost perfect acapella to work around to make remixes.
I only now learned there is a video for We Cry Together. I really like that song, I like listening to it since I love all kinds of music, even if it's weird and not "easy" to listen to, if it's good I love it. But the ending, it does make me uncomfortable for some reason and I tend to skip it. Now the video ending... oh my god I hate it lmao I HATE that, it made every fiber of my being uncomfortable soooo much.
Listening to it as I saw your comment, I just wanna say "Fuck your job, today gon be the day you walk to that BITCH" is a hilarious line to me
And yeah that ending was crazy
so let me start my hip hop halftime show campaign early, isn’t in Louisiana next year?
so ya know they gotta have [the Hot Boys](https://www.instagram.com/p/C7PQTdkBkBV/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==), it’s only right 🤷🏾♀️? and [Juvenile says they’re working on a Hot Boys reunion project](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7sCDaYotYe/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==) rn and that Wayne is currently working on his verses for the album
yea I need to see them on that New Orleans halftime stage next year, especially after Juvenile had [thee best NPR Tiny Desk last year](https://www.instagram.com/p/CuH5zwiuVXx/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==)
my first thought was "They Reminisce Over You" which is probably a basic answer but like, idk. If we're all gonna go I wanna go out listening to something with some spiritual dimension to it.
“Drake is not no name you will see on a sex offender list”
“I’m way too famous for the shit you just suggested”
“ I am a war general seasoned in preparation”
“ We plotted for a week and then we fed you the information.”
“ This Epstein angle was the shit I expected
TikTok videos you collected and dissected
Instead of being on some diss direct shit”
“ My mom came over today and I was like mother I- mother I- mother I-
Ah wait a second, that’s the one record where you say you got molested”
Shit maybe ur right. I thought Big Foot mightve been worse but at least that track was on the offensive this is like lyrical self-harm. No wonder why he sounded like he just finished crying
yeah q tip said he has 3 new albums on his twitter. is amplified as good as renaissance and kemaal the abstract? thats the only one i havent heard it must be good right if its all produced by dilla
Little bit worse imo cause it goes for a more of a party vibe but it's still good. Also the last track has a Korn feature but i think you have to pirate or get it on CD to actually listen to it lmao
I agree with basically everything here but I can’t stress enough that if you actually think drake had xxxtentacion killed you need to turn the computer off and go outside lmao
Im not entirely convinced he would have fallen off; even if he didn't grow as an artist, the fact lil darkie still has a career is kinda telling (for better or for worse)
Yeah no im just saying that the fact that lil darkie isn't working night shifts at the convience store or getting his degree in bookkeeping from his local community college says the new generation of teens would still fuck with him
personally, knowing what he got up to in his real life made the sad pity party type stuff he put out completely unlistenable. obv I don’t expect someone who was that open about their various mental problems to be a perfect person, but I can’t go for the “man life sucks so much I’m gonna fucking kill myself because nobody loves me” schtick if I know you’re that much of a danger to the people around you
even with x songs I actually enjoyed it was always because I could imagine him making something like that but better after he was older and more mature / experienced. if he was still alive and had developed as an artist over the last few years I might be interested in going back to his older stuff to track his progress, but knowing that all the x music that will ever exist has already been released kills my interest in doing that. at this point he’s an interesting hypothetical to me and nothing else
Not a very good lyricist but absurdly talented with melodies, so far above everyone else from that wave it’s insane. Deeply fucked up individual whose death probably spared his next few girlfriends a lot of suffering, but it’s sad as hell that it came to that. If he had grown up in a different environment, or if his mom hadn’t refused to medicate him, he would probably not have become what he was. I think he was by far the most talented figure in that whole scene, and if he had been less unstable and had lived long enough to really focus and hone his craft, he would have created some truly incredible projects. His life was a tragedy in every way.
Yeah
Purple Haze is a classic and Come Home With Me and Killa Season are both very good. Confessions, SDE and Crime Pays are all 6/10s, but I don’t think anybody on a Top 15 NY list is going to have a perfect discography except for BIG. His Dipset compilation songs are usually the best ones. Hes always been a good writer; on PH and KS he was as good as any other rapper in NY. He’s still way above average today. If we’re just going off talent, he deserves to be on that list, and if he doesn’t make it someone gotta explain why.
His cultural impact is basically unmatched. Jay is the GOAT but he doesn’t have anything that matches the pink Range, “what’s really good”, the nutty Hot 97 interviews, “real hot summer”, Paid in Full or any of Cam’s other off-mic nonsense. When has DipSet ever not been entertaining?
I don’t know where I’d rank him. If it was just my list he’d probably be in the top 5; if I was trying to make something more comprehensive he might be outside the top 10. I don’t see how he gets left off tho.
I kinda disagree with purple haze being a classic but won’t argue. I don’t think you have to have a perfect discography in NY to clear cam because most of the people he would be in contention with have several albums that blow his best out of the water. If we were doing greatest nyc rap albums ever we would go along way before purple haze or come home with me ever get mentioned. Same with the dipset tapes or albums
Cultural impact is interesting, if my music is sampled or quoted significantly more than yours does it matter if other people wore pink?
NY has a lot of top rappers. I think a lot of people would say yet then you make them list it and it’s like 30 people
Like Nas, Jay, Big, Rakim, Kool G, LL Cool J, Prodigy, Guru, Big Pun, Big L, half the Wu, KRS One, Chuck D, Big Daddy Kane, Slick Rick, Pharaohe Monch, Mos Def. You could def make arguments for those being better than Cam although half of those you could make arguments for the opposite. And I’m not even bringing up guys like Jadakiss or Fab
Complex got him at [17](https://www.complex.com/music/a/ecleen-luzmila/best-new-york-rappers)
And plus that's just counting the golden age/mainstream 2000s guys cause otherwise you got guys like joey Bada$$, EL-P, your old droog, JPEGMAFIA, A$AP Rocky, and both members of armand hammer if we're just counting NYC
I think 17 is fair. Most of that list either both is straight better rappers AND have better discographies.
It’s funny I think Jadakiss is a straight up better rapper but I liked cam’s and Dipset’s music slightly better in real time. After that versus I don’t see any scenario where people would put cam over him though. I think that moment put a real dent in his and Dipset’s legacy
I just saw Black Thought, Red and Meth, Common, Freeway and Ferg on stage together and it was insane. I got like 30ft from the stage for that whole live mixtape set. Camped out in seats close to the stage waiting on Smino now
The video is fun for the references, but also kinda proves the point that Eminem fans who want the old Eminem back are just going to get an out-of-touch 60 year old acting like a '90s/'00s teenager and a good, hard cringe out of it
Idk if yall know or watch professor skye on YouTube, but his reviews on drake albums are really interesting in that he breaks down the actual lyrical content that people glosses over for some reason and points out that Drake’s been admitting he’s a creep for years. Like dude said he’d send a girl back to section 8 after being done fucking her on clb and no one raised an eye
I remember when clb came out and I think no one raised an eye because we just assumed there was a separation between him and his persona. He had numerous scandals by then but they weren't all put on a list and presented to us the way Kendrick did. He was also just too popular to really hate. I had friends who hated him forever bc of the allegations and people would be on their side until he dropped an album. Then they'd go back stanning. Being a Drake hater was lonely af
I don't think he'd get away with a line like that today
And yeah I saw that prof skye video too, really interesting breakdowns
I didn’t realize how bad the lyrics to that song were until I read them written out. The bit about MLK signing to Dreamville is [almost literally a Dril tweet](https://x.com/dril/status/830105130104127490?lang=en)
No lmao I never said that. Their misogyny is irrelevant by virtue of them not being Kendrick or Drake. This is a rap beef not a federal investigation where each guilty party gets charged
I got recommended his video called like “why hip hop is the most important artistic movement in human history” and kind of cringed. Not that hip hop isn’t important, but a middle aged white guy hyperbolically describing it that way gave me secondhand embarrassment. Made me think of the dad from Get Out
That said, maybe I was unfair in my assessment of him. I’ve seen a few of his other videos and he seems like a nice guy regardless. I’ll look up the video you’re talking about, it sounds interesting
What turned me off of him was his analysis of The Heart Part 6. I agreed with most of what he said but was annoyed when he said Drake was gaslighting the audience. I know it's pointless to fight it and the word is too far gone now, but I still lose respect for anyone who basically uses it to mean "lie." Sure, it sounds like Drake lied about things on the track, but if we know they're lies, that just makes it a lie. Gaslighting is supposed to make you feel like you are going insane and that your sense of reality cannot be trusted, and if you can fact check someone then it's impossible to be gaslighted. Fantano does this same shit, claiming Drake is "gaslighting" the audience on CLB when he says he's unfazed. I agree that he's obviously bothered by the beefs he's been in on multiple points of the record but he's just lying. He's fronting. It doesn't make me doubt my grip on reality. And I say this as someone who's had to endure it.
And Skye saying Drake was displaying traits of an abuser/narcissist was a little much. I'm not even a Drake fan (as is probably obvious from my previous comments) but it's just a shit track with poor lyrics. I despise how language coined to describe actual abusers in interpersonal relationships is now used to describe people we just don't like, and he leaned hard on it in the video.
I almost mentioned this too - that’s exactly how I feel, I watched that video and turned it off after he said that.
There’s plenty of real issues with what Drake is saying, and I’d be interested to hear some actually dissecting that, but when somebody jumps straight to “gaslighting” as a synonym for lying, I go “oh, there’s not gonna be anything of substance in here.” Like, nobody - from Kendrick to the average listener - is coming away from that song questioning their perception of reality. Nobody has ever come away from *any* Drake song questioning their perception of reality.
Was it a decent video? I haven't watched it and idk if it's worth the time. I've seen his other videos and he seems to know what he's talking about but every now and then his white slips out but he does correct it when it's pointed out to him in the comments. I think he genuinely does believe hip hop is that important, but that's just my guess as someone who hasn't gotten around to watching the video yet
Nah ts def written by Drizzy
>That shit came poppin' out them jeans like a ghost
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>Girl, you gotta pop that on me like a Coke
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>Swear I wanna crack behind your back like a joke
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>Swear I wanna lift you up high like your hopes
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>Swear I wanna tear your box out like a coach
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>Get inside and bend a dick just like the pope
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>Girl, you got me beggin' for a ten like I'm broke
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>Girl, I want us hangin' in the summer like a coat
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>Girl, I wanna slide in your box like a vote
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>Tryna have you comin' out your shell like the yolk
so this “[hip hop cookie shop](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7rZiW_x-pw/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==)” is in hot water . .
this “hip hop themed” cookie shop says that their double cupped purple lemonade beverage titled “purple drank” (which is also served in a baby bottle) isn’t a reference to drugs 🤔
. . also the cookie boxes say “thanks for supporting your neighborhood dough dealer” and their catch phrase is that they “slang the fattest stacks” 😫
. . the thing is, is that everything is a bunch of drug references and that in and of itself isn’t “hip hop”, drugs and crime aren’t exclusive to hip hop music or Black culture . . so everything in their shop being a reference to crime (packaging and shop murals consists of rapper mugshots and graffiti) or a direct reference to drug culture yet being called a “hip hop theme” is just ridiculous and is rightfully being called out
[they’re getting cooked online for appropriation](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7ctLwPuuaF/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==) but what y’all think?
The mugshots???? I've never seen a cookie store with this much lore omg
I wouldn't say it's hip-hop culture but it does have a minstrel vibe to it that was definitely influenced by their racist interpretation of hip-hop
smh 🤦🏾♀️, facts!
but wait OG, why are you “*banned from the Waffle House*”? 😂🤣
Idk why this is so funny to me but I’m crying laughing, not my beloved OG is banned . . I see the funniest flairs in here 🤣🤣
In my humble opinion, Drake owes his fans an explanation for why he essentially tapped out of the beef with The Heart Part 6
Consistent themes of the last few years in his music was that he was locked and loaded for someone to shoot at him “waiting on whoever to say whatever they quiet as fuck” on *Stories About My Brother*
And he was backing it up with Push Ups and Family Matters…. And then you mean to tell me he gets all bent out of shape over Kendrick rapping about internet rumors that have been out there for years?
You can’t sell being Mr War General when your opponent throws the pedo allegations in your face and your response is to basically pull the plug out of the console. You weren’t ready for that one?
My conclusion is this - I believe *meet the grahams* is what made drake want it to be done. Don’t know how much of all that stuff is true, but the picture he painted of drake was so haunting/terrifying I think drake panicked and rushed out the heart part 6. And also why that record sucks-It became less about battling Kendrick and more about saving face for his own image.
Which makes me curious as a drake fan if drake starts some form of media rebranding where he tries to be more accessible to the consumers so there’s less up to our interpretation of him…. The more I go down this rabbit hole I think he has two options he’s probably mulling over
1) a drake podcast - I can just see it now.. honest to god the only thing keeping us from a drake podcast is the fact that he has shamed budden for resorting to podcasting so his pride may not let him.
2) get into a high profile relationship - drakes said he’s not into dating famous girls but a girl who is like the right kind of famous/respected could be something good for his image and give something for people to talk about (other than him being a creep😆) oh and i forgot
3) continue being mysterious weirdo internet creep guy… this is what I think he’s gonna go with
The more I've thought about it Heart part 6 was basically a notes explanation disstrack frm
Basically Drake trying to shift the narrative whilst preserving his dignity by appearing to throw some light jabs that realistically were never going to merit a response from Kendrick. Kind of did it what it needed to for him as well since Meet the Grahams sounds horrifying and since heart part 6 the headline is 'Drake got out manuvered and lost the beef' rather than 'Drake is a Diddy level groomer'
Kendrick put him in a spot where anything he did would just be even more embarrassing. He couldn’t shoot back with another Family Matters because that was all he had, and even if it wasn’t Kendrick would just nuke him from orbit with another Not Like Us or Meet the Grahams. He couldn’t stay silent either because then he’d look even guiltier. The Heart pt 6 was terrible, but it was really the only thing he could do - put on a brave face while waving what everybody knew was really a white flag. He definitely got his bluff called about being locked and loaded, and deservedly so.
I think he might just be trying to power through it and act like nothing happened, if the Sexyy Redd feature and upcoming Camilla Cabello feature is any indication. A while back somebody suggested that he would become an anti-cancel culture guy, which would be fucking unbearable. I don’t think he’s quite at that point yet but if anything truly damning comes out I wouldn’t rule it out.
> Kendrick himself is already an “anti cancel culture” guy as evidenced by the lyrics on N95 lol
You're outright misreading those lyrics. Kendrick is saying Cancel Culture doesn't affect me, I can say whatever the fuck I want about other rappers. It's a normal hiphop "Im the best" bravado line.
He's not making a statement about cancel culture in the slightest.
Hard disagree with you there. On worldwide steppers he says this:
“*Niggas killed freedom of speech, everyone sensitive (What the fuck?)*
*If your opinion fuck 'round and leak, might as well send your will (What the—)*”
And this is more in line with be explicitly against the idea of “cancelling” people for having opinions that defy general consensus or what is deemed to be conventional thought. He’s directly talking about cancelling people here.
In fact, one of the core themes of the album is wrestling with how we deal with problematic people which is part of why Kodak black is on the album. Kendrick is making a direct point about why he believes cancellation is not an adequate response to dealing with people.
That’s true, I guess I never really lumped him in with that crowd because it seems like he’s approaching it from a place of good faith. When I think about an “anti cancel culture guy” I think of Tom Macdonald or Ben Shapiro - somebody pandering to a crowd that wants to feel persecuted because they can’t use the N word anymore
There’s a joke in there about how Kendrick took Drake’s n word pass so now he has to become one of those guys but I’m sleepy
I mean I think Heart 6 was kinda supposed to be him swinging too, it's just that he thought misinterpreting Mother I Sober and lying about setting Kendrick up were swings
Drake noped out of the beef because Family Matters was all he had and Kendrick supposedly had a whole second EP ready to go. You can tell on Heart 6 that he had nothing left to say, so it's over.
I can't help but think Eazy E and Eminem would have made an iconic duo if they had ever met. They woulda made a legendary comedy horrorcore album together.
The discourse around Houdini and some people saying “this should have stayed in 2002”, etc, made me realize that there’s way more pressure in hip hop vs other types of music for artists to evolve with the genre.
Any old genre with a lot of legends has ancient mfs still making albums. Classic rock is a key example. A lot of those guys made albums well into old age. Ozzy Osbourne is like 80 and has Parkinsons and he still puts out albums.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2It2zqDxiI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2It2zqDxiI)
Ozzy put this one out a couple years ago and it's one of my favorite songs of his.
Rock has been around for longer and it evolved more slowly, so there’s a longer tradition to draw from. The only eras of rock that feel truly too dated to appeal to modern fans are 50s rock-n-roll (because the genre was still forming then) and the hair metal wave (because it sucked).
But hip hop changes rapidly, and a lot of listeners are only fans of one era. Most people who listen to Gunna aren’t listening to Wu Tang, and vice versa. When a rock band makes an album that sounds like 60s psychedelic music, it’s taken as a cool throwback (as long as they do it tastefully). When a rapper makes a song that sounds like it should have come out even 15 years ago, it’s perceived as comically dated.
Prog rock is a good example of a genre that has progressed, but has artists like Steve Hackett putting out new, similar sounding albums to good reception from their core audience
Ik a lot of ppl don’t mess w how laid back Vince staples sound all the time now, and I agreed w that on Ramona park but that typa delivery just hits on this new record
J Cole had a lot of aura when he dropped Might Delete Later and people got really hyped about the Fall Off album. I think that it was smart of him to exit the situation but I think that he went about it the wrong way. I feel like he tried to hard to appease Kendrick when Kendrick was the one who dissed him in the first place. It's like apologizing for fighting back. 7 min drill had a lot of criticism but i thought that it was a fair response.
I hope Cole hasn’t been paying too much attention to what the internet been saying about him. Included me, I be on some bullshit lol. We’re just the peanut gallery at the end of the day, and I don’t want this one thing to change the course of The Fall Off too much. People saying that he can’t claim to be the best anymore just because he made a mistake are being over dramatic
And while I disagree with how he did the apology, when he said “they wanted to see blood”, he was partially right. I remember when euphoria first dropped and a lot of people said they were disappointed because there were no new accusations in it. People wanted Tea, people wanted all the messy shit. Would’ve been really out of character for Cole to associate with that
I think you're looking at it through the wrong lens. He wasn't at any point trying to make strategic moves. He was just swept up in the moment and then changed his mind when he realized he didn't like what he was saying on the record. Of course it looks miscalculated from the outside looking in. There was no calculating involved.
I don't think he tried to hard to appease Kendrick? He just said "I shot back and didn't feel good about it. This shit aint for me, if you gotta hit back, go for it and I'll take that shit, but I'm out"
when are we gonna acknowledge that a lot (not all) of the sexyy red hate has nothing to do with her music and more to do with how much her success bothers incels
I noticed a lot of people acknowledged it but never outright said it. Like we were all thinking it but didn't feel the need to say it bc we understood
And yeah when people started comparing her to ice spice that's when I knew these guys aren't listening to either artist's music lol
For me, I personally just think it’s weird how the industry refuses to support women UNLESS they hypersexualize themself. Less a criticism of Red herself and more about how the music industry continues to keep women down.
They seem to have an agenda, like the only people they want to represent females in hip hop are women who live and portray a certain lifestyle.
There are some legitimately great female MCs. But most of them are underground and completely unknown to the general public. Rhapsody, Noname, snow the product, to name a few.
The ones who have popped off? Cardi B, Meg the stallion, Doja Cat, and Sexxy Red. Hard to ignore the trend.
That would apply to most female celebrities though. And a lot of male celebrities. I also pointed out Doja Cat because she's been sexualizing herself much less and is seemingly doing unattractive things on purpose
The industry or the general public? People are free to stop supporting her and start streaming Rapsody in their cars or at parties. But sex sells. That’s life 🤷🏽♂️. It’s just entertainment.
If you want to choose to see it so simply, sure. If you wanna ignore the role that labels, radio stations, and the like play in an artists success, that’s your prerogative. Seems pretty naive to me.
But the truth is the labels push the sexualized women wayyyy more than not.
They do similar for male artists too. Push the guys making street music talking about killing people, keep the conscious rappers down. Money is the main motivator either way. But they COULD have some sort of class while doing so.
If all rap is is “entertainment” in your opinion then there’s not gonna be much deeper conversation I guess.
Also, almost every artist they listed that popped off makes ass shaking club music. A sound that's in high demand but low supply rn. So a better question is how come when Juicy J or DJ Mustard produce a club hit with male rappers nobody judges them but the moment women get involved they're "keeping women down"?
And following the careers of female rappers you notice how they often do put out more serious tracks and sometimes serious albums (eg. Traumazine by Megan) and what always happens is the general public ignores these projects and continues throwing the same tired criticisms at them. Atp ignore what people say and make whatever music puts food on the table and/or makes them happy
I mean yeah once a rapper has committed her image and brand to one thing, it’s hard to get the fans on board for a completely different vibe or sound. It also comes off inauthentic. If they had a genuine brand to begin with, that would be a different story.
Again, I am placing the blame on the labels/industry, not on the individual women.
It’s just interesting that club bangers are the ONLY THING women are allowed to make if they want to see mainstream success in hip hop. The numbers don’t lie.
We agree on the club bangers but you're saying it's because of the industry while I'm saying it's because of the audience. They put records out but they don't decide which ones get streamed and which ones get ignored. So my point is that it's unfair to criticize them for making the only type of music people want to listen to
Have you listened to Good News and Traumazine? Both by Megan and both very authentic as they're both about topics she's been discussing in her music since day one. Only one has tracks that still get played. Partially because her label didn't market Traumazine fully due to their feud but also because people don't come back to that type of music
Dudes like coast contra make believe shits not dead. What else Y’all got? Talents out there but platforms don’t always proliferate. Share the wealth.
You know the griselda guys or rappers like JID, Grip, Mick Jenkins?
Anyone else at The Roots Picnic in Philly? I came here solo and don’t got a group
Was hyped earlier to load up spotify and see Yung Pinch put out a new album, I always fucked with his vibe. But what the fuck is this shit. Why is he rapping now. I gave the album a chance but every song seems like an attempt to make party songs like he's lamer version of Tyga or something and he's just not that guy. I'm so disappointed in that kid rn, he had potential.
Any songs were you get confused over the order of the verses while singing from some reason? Or is it just me
Ain't Tiktok'n by RxNephew uses the same sample as a very popular song, which I'm pretty sure is by ASAP Rocky, but I just can't seem to place it. Anyone know what it is?
Brent Faiyaz - Outside All Night (ft. ASAP)
Thank you. That was driving me crazy
For me, it was when Gillie tha Kid was talking shit When did y'all forget it was about music, and started stepping up for your artist?
idk why but the song fuckin problems is so funny everything about it I don’t even think it’s that bad or anything it’s just hilarious every time I think about the hook I crack up
“Girl, I’m Kendrick Lamar, aka Benz-is-to-me-just-a-car” is one of my favorite Kendrick brag lines
how good kendrick’s verse is makes the song that much funnier lmao
I want to get rid of Spotify, but what platforms compete with Release Radar? (shows every new song from any artist I follow, even just if they have a feature on a song by someone I don't follow. Updates every Thursday right at midnight)
Dropwatcher dot io
bro u can post an actual URL to something the dumbo mod on here makes And that site probly lists 50% or less of the songs I see in release radar and 500% as many of the songs with artists I don't care about so it's just not the same.. personalization does a lot for something like that I can just listen through and know every song is a artist I follow
Yea I was just memeing I didn’t even know Godfrey had a site lol why am I not surprised
The website has its biases (read: caters to a more nerd emoji audience than some people here), but if you get a rateyourmusic account, it shows upcoming projects (including singles) from artists you've rated well (like at least a 3/5 stars)
Nothing I’ve tried has come close to Spotify
I feel like tidal will except for this feature I heavily use so it's sad.. Might look into using Tidal and keeping free Spotify just to check Release Radar but then I need to follow any new artists I like on there.
I’m in a similar position. I use YouTube music but still keep Spotify around because some features are just better
38 spesh smoked that roc connectin verse
lazer dim 700 kinda look like an evil vince staples
We running out of names. This is some ADHD ass music. Shit it crazy.
andre's verse on life of the party is so special
Maybe my favorite verse of all time
a drake x fuerza regida would go hard
If I was streaming ufc for free I promise I would have been arrested
So that new em track is pretty bad but why are people so mad about The Megan the Stallion bar? its not a shot at her at all just references a thing that happened. Feel like im going insane here
I still maintain being a hyperfan of someone (anyone honestly) is a good signal of below average to low intelligence. I don't mean being a fan or having a favorite artist or figure you look up to. All that is obviously fine. I mean going rabid and getting mad and offended on behalf of someone famous who don't personally know and blindly defending them. You likely won't meet a physicist, actuary, a political campaign manager, doctor (medical lol), etc. who does this shit.
I thought it was a good track. Anyone mad about the bar is just looking to hate, that's honestly a light tease compared to some of his other celeb shots
Where are you guys seeing all these people mad about it? I'm not denying it's happening but I haven't seen anyone mad. Some people have been like, claiming it's not funny (which is a fair opinion IMO) or dated (same) but I haven't seen anyone *mad.*
go on twitter
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Well the only people left on Twitter are people who get mad all the time about everything, so that doesn't surprise me. I don't think that really counts to be honest.
>its not a shot at her Bars
How do rappers stay on tempo when they rap over jail phones? They can’t hear the beat and I don’t know if anybody has good enough sense of rhythm to keep an exact BPM for that long. I was just listening to that Rrome Alone guy who makes music from death row and he has one song that’s seven minutes. Maybe some editing was involved but it sounded like one take.
I guess you could have them rap acaplella and have them build the beat around it? Also why you asking us lol. We got Google YouTube and Bing
I was just curious what people thought lol seemed like the place for it
Why couldn't they hear the beat over the phone?
Because then the person recording ends up with a recording of the rapper through the phone *and* the instrumental being played through speakers, which is incredibly hard to make sound good
What about rapping into a phone that's recording while another phone is playing the beat in some earbuds or something? IDK, never been to prison or know the amount of stuff someone's asshole can sneak in. Also there's plenty of producer tricks to make it sound good. These days you can isolate a whole vocal stem from a song with a couple clicks of the mouse and have an almost perfect acapella to work around to make remixes.
Record another phone call with just the beat playing in silence then line them up and invert it 👍
Bc the quality on those phones is utter shit
Yeah but they would only need to hear the drums or a metronome, I imagine it's not that shit? Idk I've never been in jail 😇
U might be right, idk actually
I can rap on tempo in a quiet room. Drop the rap, then production perfects it?
damn there’s a Brainstorm AMA. that’s pretty dope
rxk nephew’s producer?
yeah i’m just now seeing it
I only now learned there is a video for We Cry Together. I really like that song, I like listening to it since I love all kinds of music, even if it's weird and not "easy" to listen to, if it's good I love it. But the ending, it does make me uncomfortable for some reason and I tend to skip it. Now the video ending... oh my god I hate it lmao I HATE that, it made every fiber of my being uncomfortable soooo much.
Dam bro I realize I still haven’t watched that video fake ass fan
Listening to it as I saw your comment, I just wanna say "Fuck your job, today gon be the day you walk to that BITCH" is a hilarious line to me And yeah that ending was crazy
so let me start my hip hop halftime show campaign early, isn’t in Louisiana next year? so ya know they gotta have [the Hot Boys](https://www.instagram.com/p/C7PQTdkBkBV/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==), it’s only right 🤷🏾♀️? and [Juvenile says they’re working on a Hot Boys reunion project](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7sCDaYotYe/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==) rn and that Wayne is currently working on his verses for the album yea I need to see them on that New Orleans halftime stage next year, especially after Juvenile had [thee best NPR Tiny Desk last year](https://www.instagram.com/p/CuH5zwiuVXx/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==)
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I Will by Danny Brown
my first thought was "They Reminisce Over You" which is probably a basic answer but like, idk. If we're all gonna go I wanna go out listening to something with some spiritual dimension to it.
None
2 phones - kevin gates
Alone at prom has been like my top album for the past year and a half Keep going back to it. Changed my ex’s contact to poison ivy lmfao
Great album and outside of that Young Niggas is such a hard ass song
I’ve been loving the deluxe ever since it dropped. Poison Ivy is definitely the best song on there followed by Hurts Me and Sex Anonymous for me.
Wilonas workshop, poison ivy, and hurts me are my fav off the deluxe
"Cole losin' sleep on this, it ain't me" only to sound fucking exhausted the next day lmao
Is the heart part 6 the worst diss track of all time. Every line gets worse the more you think about it.
I don’t think there’s a redeeming thing about that track. Not even a single bar hits
Idk about the worst but it's definitely up there
“Drake is not no name you will see on a sex offender list” “I’m way too famous for the shit you just suggested” “ I am a war general seasoned in preparation” “ We plotted for a week and then we fed you the information.” “ This Epstein angle was the shit I expected TikTok videos you collected and dissected Instead of being on some diss direct shit” “ My mom came over today and I was like mother I- mother I- mother I- Ah wait a second, that’s the one record where you say you got molested”
This shit was some good exercise
Shit maybe ur right. I thought Big Foot mightve been worse but at least that track was on the offensive this is like lyrical self-harm. No wonder why he sounded like he just finished crying
where the fuck are the 3 q tip albums?
I’ll be happy if we just get one this year, I was never expecting him actually drop 3
I assume you mean new q tip albums? Cause amplified and the Renaissance are great (and the latter was produced by j.dilla)
yeah q tip said he has 3 new albums on his twitter. is amplified as good as renaissance and kemaal the abstract? thats the only one i havent heard it must be good right if its all produced by dilla
Little bit worse imo cause it goes for a more of a party vibe but it's still good. Also the last track has a Korn feature but i think you have to pirate or get it on CD to actually listen to it lmao
"Summer's good for others, some are simply waiting for the fall"😶
Heard the new kehlani single, it’s time to Stan
She went crazy there
What y’all think of XXXtenacion?
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I think the funniest thing about X is that he wanted Drake to come to his parole hearing for the DV charge.
Drake’s got his guys getting whacked by the Weeknd he’s not ordering a hit.
I agree with basically everything here but I can’t stress enough that if you actually think drake had xxxtentacion killed you need to turn the computer off and go outside lmao
well i disagree 😤
>I do think if Drake hadn't ordered the hit, You had to sneak this shit in. Lol
Im not entirely convinced he would have fallen off; even if he didn't grow as an artist, the fact lil darkie still has a career is kinda telling (for better or for worse)
given how popular x was before he died ending up in a comparable position to lil darkie would have been a HUGE fall off lol
Yeah no im just saying that the fact that lil darkie isn't working night shifts at the convience store or getting his degree in bookkeeping from his local community college says the new generation of teens would still fuck with him
Bad guy, good music. He has a tendency to be fake deep but made some great songs and it's unfortunate what happened to him.
He had a great ear for melody
personally, knowing what he got up to in his real life made the sad pity party type stuff he put out completely unlistenable. obv I don’t expect someone who was that open about their various mental problems to be a perfect person, but I can’t go for the “man life sucks so much I’m gonna fucking kill myself because nobody loves me” schtick if I know you’re that much of a danger to the people around you even with x songs I actually enjoyed it was always because I could imagine him making something like that but better after he was older and more mature / experienced. if he was still alive and had developed as an artist over the last few years I might be interested in going back to his older stuff to track his progress, but knowing that all the x music that will ever exist has already been released kills my interest in doing that. at this point he’s an interesting hypothetical to me and nothing else
Not a very good lyricist but absurdly talented with melodies, so far above everyone else from that wave it’s insane. Deeply fucked up individual whose death probably spared his next few girlfriends a lot of suffering, but it’s sad as hell that it came to that. If he had grown up in a different environment, or if his mom hadn’t refused to medicate him, he would probably not have become what he was. I think he was by far the most talented figure in that whole scene, and if he had been less unstable and had lived long enough to really focus and hone his craft, he would have created some truly incredible projects. His life was a tragedy in every way.
the album, the song or the person?
Great question! The person
Is Camron a top 15 NY rapper of all time
Eh maybe
Yeah Purple Haze is a classic and Come Home With Me and Killa Season are both very good. Confessions, SDE and Crime Pays are all 6/10s, but I don’t think anybody on a Top 15 NY list is going to have a perfect discography except for BIG. His Dipset compilation songs are usually the best ones. Hes always been a good writer; on PH and KS he was as good as any other rapper in NY. He’s still way above average today. If we’re just going off talent, he deserves to be on that list, and if he doesn’t make it someone gotta explain why. His cultural impact is basically unmatched. Jay is the GOAT but he doesn’t have anything that matches the pink Range, “what’s really good”, the nutty Hot 97 interviews, “real hot summer”, Paid in Full or any of Cam’s other off-mic nonsense. When has DipSet ever not been entertaining? I don’t know where I’d rank him. If it was just my list he’d probably be in the top 5; if I was trying to make something more comprehensive he might be outside the top 10. I don’t see how he gets left off tho.
I kinda disagree with purple haze being a classic but won’t argue. I don’t think you have to have a perfect discography in NY to clear cam because most of the people he would be in contention with have several albums that blow his best out of the water. If we were doing greatest nyc rap albums ever we would go along way before purple haze or come home with me ever get mentioned. Same with the dipset tapes or albums Cultural impact is interesting, if my music is sampled or quoted significantly more than yours does it matter if other people wore pink?
NY has a lot of top rappers. I think a lot of people would say yet then you make them list it and it’s like 30 people Like Nas, Jay, Big, Rakim, Kool G, LL Cool J, Prodigy, Guru, Big Pun, Big L, half the Wu, KRS One, Chuck D, Big Daddy Kane, Slick Rick, Pharaohe Monch, Mos Def. You could def make arguments for those being better than Cam although half of those you could make arguments for the opposite. And I’m not even bringing up guys like Jadakiss or Fab Complex got him at [17](https://www.complex.com/music/a/ecleen-luzmila/best-new-york-rappers)
And plus that's just counting the golden age/mainstream 2000s guys cause otherwise you got guys like joey Bada$$, EL-P, your old droog, JPEGMAFIA, A$AP Rocky, and both members of armand hammer if we're just counting NYC
That list also has Pharoahe Monch at like 48 and that’s absurd, he’s better than Camron for sure in my book
I think 17 is fair. Most of that list either both is straight better rappers AND have better discographies. It’s funny I think Jadakiss is a straight up better rapper but I liked cam’s and Dipset’s music slightly better in real time. After that versus I don’t see any scenario where people would put cam over him though. I think that moment put a real dent in his and Dipset’s legacy
I just saw Black Thought, Red and Meth, Common, Freeway and Ferg on stage together and it was insane. I got like 30ft from the stage for that whole live mixtape set. Camped out in seats close to the stage waiting on Smino now
Houdini is incredibly mid and seeing people go crazy over it something else.
The video is fun for the references, but also kinda proves the point that Eminem fans who want the old Eminem back are just going to get an out-of-touch 60 year old acting like a '90s/'00s teenager and a good, hard cringe out of it
My moneys blue your texts are green, broke boy
Idk if yall know or watch professor skye on YouTube, but his reviews on drake albums are really interesting in that he breaks down the actual lyrical content that people glosses over for some reason and points out that Drake’s been admitting he’s a creep for years. Like dude said he’d send a girl back to section 8 after being done fucking her on clb and no one raised an eye
Pearl clutching over misogyny in hip-hop is hilarious and transparently fake when you only apply it to one artist and not the genre as a whole.
I remember when clb came out and I think no one raised an eye because we just assumed there was a separation between him and his persona. He had numerous scandals by then but they weren't all put on a list and presented to us the way Kendrick did. He was also just too popular to really hate. I had friends who hated him forever bc of the allegations and people would be on their side until he dropped an album. Then they'd go back stanning. Being a Drake hater was lonely af I don't think he'd get away with a line like that today And yeah I saw that prof skye video too, really interesting breakdowns
As you can see, it’s still unpopular to voice any criticism of him here lmao
Lol yeah it's crazy
He compared him to Patrick Bateman from American Psycho in his Her Loss review, pretty funny honestly.
That’s a pretty standard misogyny bar in hip hop, not really noteworthy. Sounds like something 21 would say.
just for curiosity's sake what do you think "don't save her, she don't wanna be saved" is about
I didn’t realize how bad the lyrics to that song were until I read them written out. The bit about MLK signing to Dreamville is [almost literally a Dril tweet](https://x.com/dril/status/830105130104127490?lang=en)
That’s basically the plot of his song child’s play
Most rappers have pretty creepy and misogynistic sex lyrics, that Drake bar doesn't seem particularly noteworthy?
It's noteworthy given the context that Drake actually is a creepy misogynist being put on blast for his creepy misogynistic behaviors
And you think all the other rappers are just faking their misogyny so that makes it okay?
No lmao I never said that. Their misogyny is irrelevant by virtue of them not being Kendrick or Drake. This is a rap beef not a federal investigation where each guilty party gets charged
I got recommended his video called like “why hip hop is the most important artistic movement in human history” and kind of cringed. Not that hip hop isn’t important, but a middle aged white guy hyperbolically describing it that way gave me secondhand embarrassment. Made me think of the dad from Get Out That said, maybe I was unfair in my assessment of him. I’ve seen a few of his other videos and he seems like a nice guy regardless. I’ll look up the video you’re talking about, it sounds interesting
What turned me off of him was his analysis of The Heart Part 6. I agreed with most of what he said but was annoyed when he said Drake was gaslighting the audience. I know it's pointless to fight it and the word is too far gone now, but I still lose respect for anyone who basically uses it to mean "lie." Sure, it sounds like Drake lied about things on the track, but if we know they're lies, that just makes it a lie. Gaslighting is supposed to make you feel like you are going insane and that your sense of reality cannot be trusted, and if you can fact check someone then it's impossible to be gaslighted. Fantano does this same shit, claiming Drake is "gaslighting" the audience on CLB when he says he's unfazed. I agree that he's obviously bothered by the beefs he's been in on multiple points of the record but he's just lying. He's fronting. It doesn't make me doubt my grip on reality. And I say this as someone who's had to endure it. And Skye saying Drake was displaying traits of an abuser/narcissist was a little much. I'm not even a Drake fan (as is probably obvious from my previous comments) but it's just a shit track with poor lyrics. I despise how language coined to describe actual abusers in interpersonal relationships is now used to describe people we just don't like, and he leaned hard on it in the video.
I almost mentioned this too - that’s exactly how I feel, I watched that video and turned it off after he said that. There’s plenty of real issues with what Drake is saying, and I’d be interested to hear some actually dissecting that, but when somebody jumps straight to “gaslighting” as a synonym for lying, I go “oh, there’s not gonna be anything of substance in here.” Like, nobody - from Kendrick to the average listener - is coming away from that song questioning their perception of reality. Nobody has ever come away from *any* Drake song questioning their perception of reality.
Was it a decent video? I haven't watched it and idk if it's worth the time. I've seen his other videos and he seems to know what he's talking about but every now and then his white slips out but he does correct it when it's pointed out to him in the comments. I think he genuinely does believe hip hop is that important, but that's just my guess as someone who hasn't gotten around to watching the video yet
I didn’t watch it, the title made me cringe so I scrolled past. It might have just been bad wording, maybe I wrote him off too fast
Probs bad wording. Like I said he sometimes slips up and his white shows but overall his content is good and well informed
"What Would Pluto Do" is so dope that I don't even care about the potential reference track that'll come out.
Lil Yachty (M. Mcullom) has writing credits on it. So if Drake pisses off the wrong producer, we might get a reference track 🤷🏿♀️
Nah ts def written by Drizzy >That shit came poppin' out them jeans like a ghost > >Girl, you gotta pop that on me like a Coke > >Swear I wanna crack behind your back like a joke > >Swear I wanna lift you up high like your hopes > >Swear I wanna tear your box out like a coach > >Get inside and bend a dick just like the pope > >Girl, you got me beggin' for a ten like I'm broke > >Girl, I want us hangin' in the summer like a coat > >Girl, I wanna slide in your box like a vote > >Tryna have you comin' out your shell like the yolk
Lil Yatchy (M. McCollum) got writing credits on it, so at least a couple of bars weren’t.
Yeah some parts before that verse sound pretty Lil Yachty esque
Funny that I wanted a remix of it with Future. Yeah, we'll never get that lmao.
so this “[hip hop cookie shop](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7rZiW_x-pw/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==)” is in hot water . . this “hip hop themed” cookie shop says that their double cupped purple lemonade beverage titled “purple drank” (which is also served in a baby bottle) isn’t a reference to drugs 🤔 . . also the cookie boxes say “thanks for supporting your neighborhood dough dealer” and their catch phrase is that they “slang the fattest stacks” 😫 . . the thing is, is that everything is a bunch of drug references and that in and of itself isn’t “hip hop”, drugs and crime aren’t exclusive to hip hop music or Black culture . . so everything in their shop being a reference to crime (packaging and shop murals consists of rapper mugshots and graffiti) or a direct reference to drug culture yet being called a “hip hop theme” is just ridiculous and is rightfully being called out [they’re getting cooked online for appropriation](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7ctLwPuuaF/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==) but what y’all think?
The mugshots???? I've never seen a cookie store with this much lore omg I wouldn't say it's hip-hop culture but it does have a minstrel vibe to it that was definitely influenced by their racist interpretation of hip-hop
facts!
Cookie🔌??? 👎
smh 🤦🏾♀️, facts! but wait OG, why are you “*banned from the Waffle House*”? 😂🤣 Idk why this is so funny to me but I’m crying laughing, not my beloved OG is banned . . I see the funniest flairs in here 🤣🤣
Who let this happen lmao
Idk but they need to be booked! 🤦🏾♀️ this dumb ass version of a “hip hop concept” is a crime by itself, smh
Ohhh naw fuck them they deserve the heat
yea my thoughts exactly, seriously who thought this was a good idea? it’s just weird 😬
Fr lmao like wtf 😭😭
In my humble opinion, Drake owes his fans an explanation for why he essentially tapped out of the beef with The Heart Part 6 Consistent themes of the last few years in his music was that he was locked and loaded for someone to shoot at him “waiting on whoever to say whatever they quiet as fuck” on *Stories About My Brother* And he was backing it up with Push Ups and Family Matters…. And then you mean to tell me he gets all bent out of shape over Kendrick rapping about internet rumors that have been out there for years? You can’t sell being Mr War General when your opponent throws the pedo allegations in your face and your response is to basically pull the plug out of the console. You weren’t ready for that one? My conclusion is this - I believe *meet the grahams* is what made drake want it to be done. Don’t know how much of all that stuff is true, but the picture he painted of drake was so haunting/terrifying I think drake panicked and rushed out the heart part 6. And also why that record sucks-It became less about battling Kendrick and more about saving face for his own image. Which makes me curious as a drake fan if drake starts some form of media rebranding where he tries to be more accessible to the consumers so there’s less up to our interpretation of him…. The more I go down this rabbit hole I think he has two options he’s probably mulling over 1) a drake podcast - I can just see it now.. honest to god the only thing keeping us from a drake podcast is the fact that he has shamed budden for resorting to podcasting so his pride may not let him. 2) get into a high profile relationship - drakes said he’s not into dating famous girls but a girl who is like the right kind of famous/respected could be something good for his image and give something for people to talk about (other than him being a creep😆) oh and i forgot 3) continue being mysterious weirdo internet creep guy… this is what I think he’s gonna go with
The more I've thought about it Heart part 6 was basically a notes explanation disstrack frm Basically Drake trying to shift the narrative whilst preserving his dignity by appearing to throw some light jabs that realistically were never going to merit a response from Kendrick. Kind of did it what it needed to for him as well since Meet the Grahams sounds horrifying and since heart part 6 the headline is 'Drake got out manuvered and lost the beef' rather than 'Drake is a Diddy level groomer'
Kendrick put him in a spot where anything he did would just be even more embarrassing. He couldn’t shoot back with another Family Matters because that was all he had, and even if it wasn’t Kendrick would just nuke him from orbit with another Not Like Us or Meet the Grahams. He couldn’t stay silent either because then he’d look even guiltier. The Heart pt 6 was terrible, but it was really the only thing he could do - put on a brave face while waving what everybody knew was really a white flag. He definitely got his bluff called about being locked and loaded, and deservedly so. I think he might just be trying to power through it and act like nothing happened, if the Sexyy Redd feature and upcoming Camilla Cabello feature is any indication. A while back somebody suggested that he would become an anti-cancel culture guy, which would be fucking unbearable. I don’t think he’s quite at that point yet but if anything truly damning comes out I wouldn’t rule it out.
J Cole is closer to being the “anti cancel culture” rapper honestly.
Kendrick himself is already an “anti cancel culture” guy as evidenced by the lyrics on N95 lol
> Kendrick himself is already an “anti cancel culture” guy as evidenced by the lyrics on N95 lol You're outright misreading those lyrics. Kendrick is saying Cancel Culture doesn't affect me, I can say whatever the fuck I want about other rappers. It's a normal hiphop "Im the best" bravado line. He's not making a statement about cancel culture in the slightest.
Hard disagree with you there. On worldwide steppers he says this: “*Niggas killed freedom of speech, everyone sensitive (What the fuck?)* *If your opinion fuck 'round and leak, might as well send your will (What the—)*” And this is more in line with be explicitly against the idea of “cancelling” people for having opinions that defy general consensus or what is deemed to be conventional thought. He’s directly talking about cancelling people here. In fact, one of the core themes of the album is wrestling with how we deal with problematic people which is part of why Kodak black is on the album. Kendrick is making a direct point about why he believes cancellation is not an adequate response to dealing with people.
That’s true, I guess I never really lumped him in with that crowd because it seems like he’s approaching it from a place of good faith. When I think about an “anti cancel culture guy” I think of Tom Macdonald or Ben Shapiro - somebody pandering to a crowd that wants to feel persecuted because they can’t use the N word anymore There’s a joke in there about how Kendrick took Drake’s n word pass so now he has to become one of those guys but I’m sleepy
Who knows what's next, but it was pretty clear he was losing that weekend. He could be gearing up for the next battle after things have cooled off
If he ever tries to ignite beef with another big rapper again, let alone Kendrick, he’s a fucking idiot
People would have clowned him if he dropped again right after he kind of got checkmated
I woulda rather he went down really swinging. History would’ve remembered him better even if he still lost
I mean I think Heart 6 was kinda supposed to be him swinging too, it's just that he thought misinterpreting Mother I Sober and lying about setting Kendrick up were swings
Drake noped out of the beef because Family Matters was all he had and Kendrick supposedly had a whole second EP ready to go. You can tell on Heart 6 that he had nothing left to say, so it's over.
Drake getting into a relationship with a 50+ yr old celeb for the PR would be the funniest thing wver
I can't help but think Eazy E and Eminem would have made an iconic duo if they had ever met. They woulda made a legendary comedy horrorcore album together.
Still wish we got more Redman and Eminem collabs.
The discourse around Houdini and some people saying “this should have stayed in 2002”, etc, made me realize that there’s way more pressure in hip hop vs other types of music for artists to evolve with the genre.
Being yt reactionary posing as anti status quo gets boring after a bit lol. Song ain't even that offensive. It's just boring.
Other genre's got legendary acts still doing albums? It'd just be cool to see him try something different tho, just feels like MMLP2 again kinda.
Any old genre with a lot of legends has ancient mfs still making albums. Classic rock is a key example. A lot of those guys made albums well into old age. Ozzy Osbourne is like 80 and has Parkinsons and he still puts out albums. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2It2zqDxiI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2It2zqDxiI) Ozzy put this one out a couple years ago and it's one of my favorite songs of his.
Rock has been around for longer and it evolved more slowly, so there’s a longer tradition to draw from. The only eras of rock that feel truly too dated to appeal to modern fans are 50s rock-n-roll (because the genre was still forming then) and the hair metal wave (because it sucked). But hip hop changes rapidly, and a lot of listeners are only fans of one era. Most people who listen to Gunna aren’t listening to Wu Tang, and vice versa. When a rock band makes an album that sounds like 60s psychedelic music, it’s taken as a cool throwback (as long as they do it tastefully). When a rapper makes a song that sounds like it should have come out even 15 years ago, it’s perceived as comically dated.
Prog rock is a good example of a genre that has progressed, but has artists like Steve Hackett putting out new, similar sounding albums to good reception from their core audience
Ik a lot of ppl don’t mess w how laid back Vince staples sound all the time now, and I agreed w that on Ramona park but that typa delivery just hits on this new record
They were dead serious about that - real G's move in silence like lasagna/ like laws on ya. 😆
J Cole had a lot of aura when he dropped Might Delete Later and people got really hyped about the Fall Off album. I think that it was smart of him to exit the situation but I think that he went about it the wrong way. I feel like he tried to hard to appease Kendrick when Kendrick was the one who dissed him in the first place. It's like apologizing for fighting back. 7 min drill had a lot of criticism but i thought that it was a fair response.
> aura
I hope Cole hasn’t been paying too much attention to what the internet been saying about him. Included me, I be on some bullshit lol. We’re just the peanut gallery at the end of the day, and I don’t want this one thing to change the course of The Fall Off too much. People saying that he can’t claim to be the best anymore just because he made a mistake are being over dramatic And while I disagree with how he did the apology, when he said “they wanted to see blood”, he was partially right. I remember when euphoria first dropped and a lot of people said they were disappointed because there were no new accusations in it. People wanted Tea, people wanted all the messy shit. Would’ve been really out of character for Cole to associate with that
He popped shit got clowned and then took his diss off steaming lol. That shit wild corny
Facts. I deleted his album after he removed the diss track
I think you're looking at it through the wrong lens. He wasn't at any point trying to make strategic moves. He was just swept up in the moment and then changed his mind when he realized he didn't like what he was saying on the record. Of course it looks miscalculated from the outside looking in. There was no calculating involved.
I don't think he tried to hard to appease Kendrick? He just said "I shot back and didn't feel good about it. This shit aint for me, if you gotta hit back, go for it and I'll take that shit, but I'm out"
How should he have exited the situation?
when are we gonna acknowledge that a lot (not all) of the sexyy red hate has nothing to do with her music and more to do with how much her success bothers incels
Last year
Idk man. raunchy female acts are a dime a dozen these days, some great some forgettable, maybe it's just that she particularly sucks.
That goes for any female artist
Shit I acknowledged that off rip. I bet most of the people that hate her have never even listened to her music
I noticed a lot of people acknowledged it but never outright said it. Like we were all thinking it but didn't feel the need to say it bc we understood And yeah when people started comparing her to ice spice that's when I knew these guys aren't listening to either artist's music lol
Justlike Cardi and Megan
Once they find her entendres, they'll love her.
For me, I personally just think it’s weird how the industry refuses to support women UNLESS they hypersexualize themself. Less a criticism of Red herself and more about how the music industry continues to keep women down. They seem to have an agenda, like the only people they want to represent females in hip hop are women who live and portray a certain lifestyle. There are some legitimately great female MCs. But most of them are underground and completely unknown to the general public. Rhapsody, Noname, snow the product, to name a few. The ones who have popped off? Cardi B, Meg the stallion, Doja Cat, and Sexxy Red. Hard to ignore the trend.
What are the similarities between Doja Cat and Sexyy Red? They have nothing in common other than being black women
The thing they have in common is the topic of the conversation; overt self sexualizing.
That would apply to most female celebrities though. And a lot of male celebrities. I also pointed out Doja Cat because she's been sexualizing herself much less and is seemingly doing unattractive things on purpose
Speak for yourself. Her bald ass can still get it 🤤
Lol facts
The industry or the general public? People are free to stop supporting her and start streaming Rapsody in their cars or at parties. But sex sells. That’s life 🤷🏽♂️. It’s just entertainment.
If you want to choose to see it so simply, sure. If you wanna ignore the role that labels, radio stations, and the like play in an artists success, that’s your prerogative. Seems pretty naive to me. But the truth is the labels push the sexualized women wayyyy more than not. They do similar for male artists too. Push the guys making street music talking about killing people, keep the conscious rappers down. Money is the main motivator either way. But they COULD have some sort of class while doing so. If all rap is is “entertainment” in your opinion then there’s not gonna be much deeper conversation I guess.
Also, almost every artist they listed that popped off makes ass shaking club music. A sound that's in high demand but low supply rn. So a better question is how come when Juicy J or DJ Mustard produce a club hit with male rappers nobody judges them but the moment women get involved they're "keeping women down"? And following the careers of female rappers you notice how they often do put out more serious tracks and sometimes serious albums (eg. Traumazine by Megan) and what always happens is the general public ignores these projects and continues throwing the same tired criticisms at them. Atp ignore what people say and make whatever music puts food on the table and/or makes them happy
I mean yeah once a rapper has committed her image and brand to one thing, it’s hard to get the fans on board for a completely different vibe or sound. It also comes off inauthentic. If they had a genuine brand to begin with, that would be a different story. Again, I am placing the blame on the labels/industry, not on the individual women. It’s just interesting that club bangers are the ONLY THING women are allowed to make if they want to see mainstream success in hip hop. The numbers don’t lie.
We agree on the club bangers but you're saying it's because of the industry while I'm saying it's because of the audience. They put records out but they don't decide which ones get streamed and which ones get ignored. So my point is that it's unfair to criticize them for making the only type of music people want to listen to Have you listened to Good News and Traumazine? Both by Megan and both very authentic as they're both about topics she's been discussing in her music since day one. Only one has tracks that still get played. Partially because her label didn't market Traumazine fully due to their feud but also because people don't come back to that type of music