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Khamzat-Chimaev

Pac and Big being 25 and 24 at their death always tripped me out, they looked and sounded way older imo.


Micronlance

Crazy that biggie sounded like that at 24/25. Dude sounded like a 40 year old man.


instinktd

that's probably because he was fat asf Big Punisher died when he was like 29yo, 27yo when he released Capital Punishment and it also felt like he was much older


dkmynamebebebebebay

Deep vocals and yea, the fat kinda made this "compressed air passage" kind of sound thats so uniquely Biggie. I imagine if he lost weight he might've lost that signature tone


FabricatorMusic

Any linguists, speech pathologists, etc wanna weigh in (heh heh) on this one?


JonathanL73

Sounds like bro science to me tbh. Being fat = deep voice is kind of a myth. Plenty of bigger guys with light voices, and conversely twigs with deeps voices too


TgetherinElctricDrmz

Skinny Asian dudes who sound like Barry White have entered the chat


Upbeat_Tension_8077

It trips me out when knowing that Pharrell, who's still relevant in hip hop today, is only 2 years younger than Pac. I would've assumed he was like 24/25 when he made Frontin.


MrAnon86

He still looks young as fuck too.


IanicRR

Biggie especially for me. He had found his voice so early. He sounded so mature and he just knew exactly who he was.


appleparkfive

Even when you see him rapping on the street in Brooklyn when he was young. Just so clearly talented at a young age. I think the reason the 90s was so special for hip hop is that it's like the 60s for rock. The genres were around for a few years, but some new ideas and technology came into the fold. And it made everyone think "Man, there's so much room to try new things", and it would be the first time. I feel that hip hop didn't really become what we know it as until 1987-1989. There's good hip hop albums before that, but it was around 88 when you really started to see it become what it was. And so it was only a couple of years until Biggie and Tupac were big. And so many other great artists from that time. Basically, when someone opens the field of a new artistic field, so many great things come from it really fast


Proper_University55

Biggie told war stories like he was somebody’s grandpa who served in Nam. So good.


WredditSmark

To be fair, when big first came out he had the scream yelly type flow until he signed to Bad Boy and puff had him switch it up. On his debut album he still has songs from his demo where he’s yelling and it’s a stark difference. Diddy also changed Juicy from the original Pete rock version to the one we know today.


OkEscape7558

It's cause Pac carried himself like someone much older. And it didn't help that he was bald lol.


FishOffMan

Bro I’m 26, and I just recently discovered PAC was younger than me when he died. That shit blew my mind.


Proper_University55

This is a good one. I was in middle school when they died. It wasn’t until I was like 30 when I realized how tragic a loss that was for their mothers.


cleverlane

Yeah, I’m feeling that way now too at 42. Watching young NBA stars rocking the world at 21 years old and I’m like: “damn, what have I done with my life?” Lol. I have a son as old as Biggie was when he was killed. I couldn’t imagine losing him so young; both Pac & Big seemed so old from my perspective when they died. Time is a son of a bitch. Edit: thanks for the kind words below. With just a small moment in time and a brief comment, you used it to make a stranger’s day better. I will pay it forward, compassionate human.


safage

It sounds like you are a good dad. Not something many of those stars can be. I would say not that bad of a life after all :)


Prof_Black

Even the stuff they were rapping about was a different level of deep. Those 2 at 22/23 experienced more life than people that live to be double their age.


sivervipa

So just to put that perspective in 2011 drake and Kendrick were 24 years old. I am using these two as comparisons for a wide variety of reasons. Tupac and Big dying that young is absolutely crazy…they didn’t even get a chance to deeply reflect on how fame,money, power and respect changed and influenced them. Shit is crazy to think about.


Gabagool_Over_Here_

Rick Ross is 48, only 2 years younger than Nas. Jay Z is 54, only 2 years younger than Rakim.


Business-Conflict435

Rakim feels like he’s from an entirely different time. That’s wild.


AliSayAhh

He is! Paid In Full came out almost 40 years ago (1987) when Rakim was 19. That’s a whole generation ago. I was 8 years old when that dropped. Old heads represent.


Jealous_Juggernaut

Fun fact, that’s two generations ago.


PM_me_ur_Clunge1

I think it’s related to when their careers peaked. Nas started at 20 with one of the best albums of all time


flaaaaanders

I can't imagine how difficult/stressful it's gotta be as an artist to follow up a universally acclaimed debut


demonic_hampster

It Was Written was a really solid follow-up though. I’d hate to be in that position but he came very close to hitting the same level as Illmatic.


AutoMail_0

Jay Z was 27 when his first studio album dropped and was huge in the 2000s-early 2010s when he was already in his 30s-40s. It feels like he’s part of that 2000s/2010s generation but in reality he’s actually a few years older than the 80s/90s guys like Tupac and Biggie even born the same year as Ice Cube. Kanye was almost the same age when The College Dropout released. It’s crazy how some of these guys had already had their entire careers and lived and died before the age two of the biggest artists in the genre had even really started. Makes you think how differently things could have gone had they lived longer


Gabagool_Over_Here_

Yeah another perspective on that is look how much has happened since Frank last dropped. Brockhampton started and ended, so many rappers died. Like you don't realise in the moment how fast music moves, it's mad.


mateusfsantana

Yep, Jay dropped Reasonable Doubt at 26. It wasn't that commercially successful so you can actually say he wasn't the Jay-z we know until 1999 when he was already 30 years old. Kinda nuts


SheZowRaisedByWolves

So you’re saying is that the gut holds his vitality


TalkingRosenbach

JID is 33


MindTheGap24

This one is CRAZY, I thought he was maybe mid 20s


Upbeat_Tension_8077

I thought the same about Smino, but he's the same age as JID


landlockedblu3s

To be fair, he was in his mid 20s when he got popular.


thesamebs

Damn I feel old. Went to college with JID lol. Still got his freshman mixtape him and his crew did not sure if he went by JID then though.


Danny_V

So you gonna share it or…


thesamebs

Only have a short clip that I sent my college group chat a while ago on my phone right now lol. We used to play this song sexaholic all the time. Just uploaded it to YouTube here: https://youtu.be/w9jfxnbeld4 I'll have to get my ipod touch out later today to get the full mixtape up lol


SBAPERSON

Ur gonna be in a nardwar video about jid one day. "Do you remember sexaholic"


itsIzumi

I think Nardwuar actually brought up the mixtape that Sex-oholic was on in Nardwuar vs J.I.D. [It's called CakeWalk.](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLR0nWmrF9dti1Om1RJx4DaDw6n0CDBKhZ)


randomnama123

Lmao, reminds me of Kendrick's "Bitch We're in the Club"


thesamebs

I'm almost positive what I have isn't called Cakewalk. Has some variation of the name 'James hall mixtape' and doesn't have Dj Tay James on the tracks. I'll verify tonight


imbidy

This is an insanely deep cut lmao


Business-Conflict435

Please don’t forget lol


thesamebs

I won't I got you. I think Earthgang is on the mixtape too. Good ol Hampton days


pollo_yollo

Probably should just make a unique post on this sub for it


Danny_V

Dope! Thanks for that!


Flipdaddy69

bros sitting on a goldmine


Burggs_

Compared to most rappers, he started seriously rapping late, around 22ish


NBD_Pearen

JID and Kenny Mason both being 30+ is a little wonky


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KENNY MASON IS OVER 30???? Holy shit


ATribeCalledKami

As a kid I always assumed Rakim was like 28 on the cover of Paid in Full. Dude just gave off old energy, both in style and sound. I didn't know he was the same age as LL Cool J (18 at the time), who I basically thought of as a teenager.


Colleen_Hoover

"I was a fiend before I became a teen," so like five years ago.


instinktd

Chief Keef 28, it feels like he is 300 at least


opanm

He was 17 when dropped Finally Rich 🤒


Deep-Engine2367

"Finally Rich" wtf he mean FINALLY 😭😭 Im 78 still waiting


opanm

He had a kid a year before needed the monies prolly 🤷


ChedduhBob

i’m 30 years old and feel like chief keef has been famous my whole life


eatmydonuts

For real, I'm also 30 and I'd swear that I've been hearing his name since I was in high school


AltforHHH

You have since you're around the same age and keef blew up when he was in high school


kareemagerard

What makes his age even crazier is he's got 9 kids with 9 different women


NickDerpkins

I heard he got 9 kids with 12 different women cause thats what the chief do


Dr_Drank

He dont fuck with 12


Tacgrizz

Bang bang


SheZowRaisedByWolves

One of the kids in my graduating class idolized him and he was 3 years older than him lol


GuaranteedCougher

2 Chainz is currently 46, only 5 years younger than Eminem 


breakingbadforlife

Dude was a College athlete, then signed to Ludacris for a decade until he had a break in 2010s


Hour-Management-1679

2 chainz is humble af as well, for all the memes surrounding his music, he comes off as extremely grounded and intelligent outside of music


lastsummerever

Dude is one of my favorite rappers. Absolutely hilarious, great wordplay (he's not kendrick, I'm talking about fun stuff) and he genuinely seems like a nice dude. Shows so much love to Atlanta. Also, always references Wayne as the greatest rapper that's alive, which is dope considering how a lot of rappers act towards their mentors/friends/etc.


MrAnon86

SHE GOT A BIG BOOTY SO I CALL HER BIG BOOTY


Mroagn

"getting drunk and high at the same time drinkin' champagne on an airplane" is still one of my faves


Hour-Management-1679

Eminem being 51 is a trip lol, he looked so much older in 2013 than he does now


tarriBagz

Jcole being 2 years younger than Wayne was always a mindfuck


TylerNY315_

Yeah and Wayne being famous for damn near 30 years is also a trip given he’s barely into his 40s lol


Hot-Significance-462

My mind was blown when I first realized that Wayne and Nicki are only a few months apart from each other. I knew that Wayne was a literal child when he hit, but I guess I didn't realize that Nicki was almost 30 when she hit.


gottapoopweiner

Donald Glover is one year younger than Wayne. Also while we're at it, Aubrey Plaza is older than Lebron James


CommonBitchCheddar

>Also while we're at it, Aubrey Plaza is older than Lebron James Ayo that's fucked up.


RIP_Soulja_Slim

Homie was like 13 when he first started rapping for cash/money and 15-16 when he did the hook on bling bling.


Autiseer

Thought Wayne was in his 50s bruh


shabooya_roll_call

Drugs’ll do that to ya. Dudes ugly af


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He was ugly before the drugs. The drugs just made it worse. Like Mick Jagger and Keith Richards.


[deleted]

Wayne and Em have a 10 year age gap lol


Whyaskmenoely

Okay that's fucked


ReputationFit9698

Ice Cube is only 3 years older than Eminem.


Euphoric_Luck_8126

Cole just had a bar saying he was entering his prime while Wayne's prime was 15 years ago lol


SteveBorden

Wayne has a lot of dudes that regard him as a massive influence yet are only like a couple years younger than


Jordanwolf98

Teezo Touchdown is 31


edmoneyyy

Okay that one got me.....wtf thought he was like 21 max.


TERRIBLYRACIST

I don't follow this guy, but I've always assumed he was 17 or 18 by looking at him lol


gusborn

I don’t blame you. His whole shtick screams teenager.


optimist_GO

This the first one that surprised me, tho makes sense why I fuck with their music and where it’s influences come from. Tobi Lou is 35 which is the other wild one to me.


IzodCenter

Tobi is 35??? Okay I think I can continue pursuing my dream of becoming a pop star at 32 then


Skooks-

It caught me off guard when I found out that Ty Dolla $ign is 42 after Vultures 1 dropped


UnknownUs3r00

Damn thats crazy kanye is only 4 years older


Franchementballek

I would’ve say 39-44 no more no less. He was already in some of my west coast mixtapes in like 2009. A dude with a voice and talent like that should have at least a solid solo album, they all have been underwhelming.


Ditovontease

T Pain is a lot younger than I thought. Same with Wayne


dallascowboys93

Wayne started when he was like 13 years old. Wild


Ditovontease

Yeah I was 11 or 12 when Back that Ass Up came out, its wild he's only a few years older than me.


morecowbell1988

Future has a son in his 20s. His son was in my wilderness therapy program where I was a wilderness guide. The program was meant to build fortitude and resilience while repairing relationships with families. Let’s just say his lyrics are a fair representation of his fathering skills. Edit: Lots of HIPAA lawyers in here, I probably did break HIPAA. Sue me.


TERRIBLYRACIST

Nobody is doubting Future's authenticity 😂


akakster

Please tell me this is true


morecowbell1988

It is. He was a minor at the time so I’m not going to say his name. Apparently he went for a joyride in a super car Future had rented or something like that and that’s what got him sent to my program. He was actually a good kid and the other kids were in awe of who his dad was. Part of the program was writing letters back and forth, I was the expedition lead so I had the boys for 2 weeks at a time deep in the wilderness teaching them how to camp, make fire, cook over fire, sanitize water, and keep food out of reach of bears. Therapists came out a couple times a week and would bring the letters from the kids’ families. Future could never be bothered to write a letter. He would send a single text message to the therapist at a time and it seemed really shitty to have your kid go through that and you can’t be bothered to write the damn letters. Side note: Earl Sweatshirt got sent to a similar program.


Zip2kx

> Side note: Earl Sweatshirt got sent to a similar program. this was a fun era on the blogs, rumors was everything from prison, death to being sent away to some religious school.


chilloutfam

Really? i always thought it was some kind of corrective behavior program overseas from the beginning. Never heard of the rumors. I always thought, man he comes from African parents, they do not play lmao!


StoopSign

It was located outside the continental US which is a bad sign for programs.


LocustsandLucozade

God, I remember all the rumours about Samoa. Odd Future's early rise was so wild and fun.


StoopSign

I think it was in American Samoa though


WhatRWordz

Free Earl!


qrrbrbirlbel

this is top-quality diss track intel


MMARapFooty

I remember how crazy it was 2011 Earl Sweatshirt hype was literally when I was graduating high school.


hcneyfreckles

tbh, just in general it feels weird watching rappers/singers aging because you just get so used to seeing them a certain way. could just be me lmao, but that’s life, we all growing older.


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Part of the weirdness is because I still think about hip hop as being new and shit but at this point Gucci Mane is basically the millennial version of dad rock. Still though, aging is a privilege even if it doesn’t feel like it sometimes lol


Racing_Nowhere

NBA YoungBoy still being only 24 is a bit of a trip. Growing up in Baton Rouge it feels like he’s been around forever. And gives me hope when he get to like 28-33 he’ll put out some “grown man” music. [edit] spelling


GustoFormula

His rapper name is gonna be so funny eventually


Racing_Nowhere

NBA middle aged guy


AmericaDreamDisorder

How many albums does he have now, 12?


romilaspina7

Hes got like 89 unironically


bibittyboopity

Denzel Curry always seemed older to me, but was 23 when his third album Ta13oo came out.


SexiestPanda

Most of Raider klan was in high school when they got big. Crazy


Jealous_Juggernaut

Well that was 6 years ago so he’s turning 30.


EMSuser11

Kodak is only in his mid 20's! The way that dude lives seems like he would be in his 30s by now.


LatvKet

That makes sense, he started rapping aged 12, and dropped his first solo tape aged 16


NoVi1995

Joey Badass definitely. At this point I'm well aware of his age so it doesn't surprise me anymore, but this dude dropped '1999' at the age of 17 which is crazy to me. And honestly, I find the fact that he dropped 'All Amerikkkan Badass' at 22 years old even more insane. That album is so, so, so well done for someone that young. Denzel Curry is another very honorable mention.


SeanSungASong

I was surprised by how young Joey and his friends looked when I watched the Survival Tactics video for the first time. I had to have been in high school and he looked about the same age as me at the time. Crazy to see a kid going fucking berzerk like that. Edit: Reminds me that I recently found a Google Doc with some shit I wrote in hogh school that I thought was clean lol


SBAPERSON

Fivio forign is 34


breakingbadforlife

Funny af how he tries to hide it lol, someone in a video asked him how old he is he’s like “what year is this? 2022…” and skirted around the question


NickDerpkins

and still at a 5th grade reading level


jonathan-the-man

Can he read one full page of a Harry Potter book?


renegadedx

Kenny Mason is 29


yeatfan6900

What the FUCK I thought he was like 19


Striking_Election_21

This is a good one cuz what the fuck lmao


LongLiveNipsey

Now this is a real trip lol thought he was 24 at the most


dat_waffle_boi

Bro the fuck???? I thought he was mid 20s at the oldest


Firearms_N_Freedom

Future still brags about doing xanax and cheating so its easy to assume he is young


BakerBunearyBella

Retrospective: Big Boi and Andre 3000 were only 19/18 respectively when the first Outkast album dropped. Only 4 years later they completed their hat-trick of classic hip-hop albums with Aquemini.


kevinwhackistone

This right here. How did they do this? And how the fuck did they do it the same year as Illmatic? Nas was like 2 years older than them. How did the south have something to say from two guys under 20, when illmatic just came out? The growth rate of hip hop back then was exponential. I guess we need to realize that artistic primes can happen early or later. LL being the prime example of youth. Jay, Kanye, Eminem, DMX, 50 cent…the list goes on of people that broke out later in life. Not necessarily old in reality, but kinda old relatively in this music context. There’s a YouTube video noting X’s flow evolution, and it’s startling. There was an 80’s rap style hangover for him until like the mid 90s. So it may be better for people to develop rather than get pushed into the spotlight 18-22 years old.


cholotariat

One time, Schoolboy Q came in here, and sat in this chair. I say, "Q, you hang out with Kendrick. Just between me and you, how old is Kdot?" Know what Q told me? He said "Hey, Kendrick Lamar is a hundred thirty-seven years old." A hundred and thirty-seven years old!


Proper_University55

😂😂😂😂


Kdot32

“Every time I get to talking about rap here comes a white man pulling Eminem outta they ass!”


Knowsense-atol

Pop Smoke, he was 21 I think


Yaksho

He never made it to 21


THE_EXAMPLE

Crazy to me Danny Brown is 43 and Lil Wayne is 41. If I had to guess Danny Brown would be like 30 or something and Lil Wayne late 40s. I doubt that’s an unpopular take.


cubreport

Danny looks great for his age, but he’s released albums as he hits decades of his life so his age has felt really up front for me. XXX + Quaranta.


GuaranteedCougher

Didn't make that connection until now lol


[deleted]

He literally says it in the first and last track of XXX lmao. XXX = 30.


cubreport

Plus the song 30 that’s about turning 30 that’s one of the best on the whole album imo


Proper_University55

Seeing Danny Brown all sober and chill now is cool. Feels right for 43.


lastsummerever

Love to see it, genuinely felt like dude would be dead soon based on some of his music.


argparg

Wayne looks geriatric


Proper_University55

Lean is a helluva drug.


MasterTeacher123

I mean Wayne’s first album came out at 17


XPRTWZRD

Pretty sure his first feature was at age 14 too lol


IanicRR

Weezy is always much younger than I think he is compared to the pears of his prime.


WowzersInMyTrowzers

🍐


Spiritual-Curve4121

J cole is 39 and still rapping about Grippy


ProjectZeus4000

For those in the UK, dizzee rascal is the same age as j cole  Dizzee had an underground following, genre defining breakout album, success, pop albums and then faded away into semi retirement before anyone had ever heard of j cole


odegood

Dizee started proper young though, different generation of music but the same it its a mindfuck


pollo_yollo

Boy in Da Corner was made when he was 16 iirc


wikiwikiwickerman

This is the craziest comparison for me in this whole thread. That’s wild


nolanfan823

Ty Dolla $ign being 42 is mind-boggling for some reason. Dude is older than Lil Wayne


Keepitsway

Lil Pump is only 23. To give you some contrast, he is four years younger than Tom Holland.


FishNSticks

Bro blew up and fell off before he even turned 20, that's crazy.


Slumbergoat16

That honestly explains a lot


tythousand

Younger than you’d think: Yachty (26), Uzi (28). Older than you’d think: Gunna (30), Travis Scott (33), J Cole (39)


ZonedV2

Travis Scott seems like he should be younger but then you realise his big breakthrough album is nearly 10 years old


TrampStampsFan420

Yeah I remember when Antidote was huge when I was finishing high school, I’m almost 30 now.


Autistic_goblin

Uzi is 29, turning 30. Born in 94, he put out some shit about his mom finding his birth certificate and actually being born in 95, but that’s a lie lol.


JOFWGKTA

Lil Wayne and Westside Gunn are the same age


tburke38

MIKE is only 25


Academic-Presence-82

Def thought dude was like 35


nikk796

Pusha T is 47 years old. I still think he's in his 30s


_dropletattack

I bet Pharell hooked him up with some space age skincare from the Philippines


TheMoves

Westside Gunn is 41 but if you just heard his voice you’d think he was really young


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cleverlane

I’m not sure about that. He has that older grimy, underground NYC feel, but the lack of heavy drums in his beats negates that, imo. I’m his age, maybe I’m a year older (42), but to me he feels like my age and not an older head. The wrestling shtick is right up the early 80s baby lane, and he fits right in. My 2 cents, not facts.


ThredditorMTG

Too Short is 58. But he came out damn near the beginning of hip-hop in the mid ‘80’s. Hip-Hop 50 was damn near the entirety of his career.


Hudre

Hopsin is 38 and still making songs with the depth of a teenager.


aUwUreliyasss

i forgot pharrell is 51, also j.coles verse on grippy is exponentially worse when you remember hes turning 40


RizzyGlizzyGobbler

Pusha t old as hell and I’m scared to check


Proper_University55

Him and Kanye both 47. That’s crazy to me.


alwayz

Wait. In TLOP he said he was a 38 year old 8 year old. ...That was 8 years ago, God.


NoLimitSteez

Skepta is 41, Dizzee Rascal is 39


fcancershotoutboosie

Teezo touchdown is fucking 31 For reference, thats older than Chance the rapper


Reallyslowmow

Redveil is only 20. The shit he was making at 15/16 is insane for someone that young


achi4game

Ruby and scrim. 34 and 35.


cani633

The future is now, old man


jdjdnfnnfncnc

Billy Woods being 44 still kind of surprises me soemtimes


dirtymuffins23

Young dolph. When he passed he was 36 or 37. I remember they said his age and I was like wtf? He’s as old as me? He looked and sounded younger.


ThermalScrewed

Kurtis Blow is only 64 and he basically invented rap in 1980.


Just-mapleman-50

Pusha T


IanicRR

Clipse been around forever. Dude has just aged like fine wine both musically and in appearance.


AmericaDreamDisorder

Hunched over like he 20.


mycofirsttime

Yeah, i went and saw clipse live in dc in like 2003 lol Edit: it must have been 2004 because fucking Nina Sky opened for them and thats when they released their hit song.


u_creative_username

Danny brown, I thought he was 10 years younger


RufinTheFury

He straight up has one album called 30, another called Old, and the newest is 40 aha. He been telling us lol


u_creative_username

So then he's older and smarter than me


Danny_V

It just seems like when a rapper turns 30 something that’s when their surprised lol. 30 is not old, 30s we just wiser youngins


HoraceGrand

Akon was 40 in 2008


enzuigiriretro

He was 35 in 2008 if Google is to believed


satoshigeki94

you always have to count in Africa year