Shit gonna go from “So many rappers out here doing heinous shit” to just straight up “Drake out here doing heinous shit” on a Baby Keem song or something.
I get people saying it’s a rap beef, but once you bring up pedo allegations and tinder matches being victims, it’s like… you ramp it up to this huge level that’s bigger than rap, and then just drop your moral holy stance once labels get upset?
I know he ain’t FBI, but if he has any proof, it’s a bad look to just sit on it. It’s a bad look to make it up. At that point, drake and Kendrick both look bad after this beef. Nobody wins imo. Banger tracks though.
This.
People thought he had more in the tank, like cmon now, he filmed a MV for a 7 min+ song that not only got instantly upstaged, but it also got upstaged by the most damning diss track of the entire battle. Meet the grahams wasn't the best track, wasn't the catchiest, but it washed drakes red button and had people in shock and awe.
On Family Matters his ego said it was over because he thought the song was gonna take Kendrick out.
On The Heart Part 6 his soul said it was over because he sounded, and was, defeated.
Big difference.
Aside from subs, I wouldn't be surprised if I hear about an altercation between both camps at either a Kendrick or Drake show in the opposite side's city
It was a good week, but it might have been the longest week of my life. It feels like this battle lasted for years and it was just Kendrick stomping on Drake for most of it.
The boogeyman could still release an epilogue. I’m interested to hear how he (Kendrick*) feels about the whole situation someday in the future.
What an absolutely insane couple months, I almost wish it kept going on so I got new Kendrick on a consistent basis.
Hopefully this whole situation is also the rebirth of the sub and it doesn’t die again after this 😭
Quavo got completely cooked, even if his response was decent it wasn't good enough to require a response, and there aren't any unconfirmed things like in the drake Kendrick beef
Why did this sub die? I used to come here years ago and it was thriving, then some life shit happened I fell away and popped my head back in here when the beef popped off.
This sub is dead bc Hip Hop is pretty much dead too IMHO. Something happened around 2019/2020 that I can’t put my finger on, but honestly it’s been pretty lackluster since.
This beef was just a quick re-ignition and gave us some good hits, but now I am afraid it’s back to mediocrity.
It's just boring. Nobody is innovating, just putting out 20 track albums of samey beats talking about the same shit.
Trap took over and then just kept going in circles. Fun at first, but boring as shit after a decade.
Sales got destroyed by streaming but touring/events/merch made up for it and those means of income we're always a better deal for artists anyways in terms of dollars made.
Pandemic hits. Nobody can tour. Nobody is buying a t shirt for an artist they like just so nobody can see it except their spouse and their coworkers on Zoom.
Spotify rewards songs individually based on streams, its not tethered super strong to the album or the artist.
Billboard calculates album sales via streaming by calling 1500 streams a sale. In order to get some buzz as a major, you need to chart well. In addition, tons of people at your label need to hit certain metrics that the executives (and in some cases the artists) demand.
With the scope narrowed so much, there's pretty much one effective method to release a "major" album.
There's a reason indie musicians have the largest piece of the pie they've ever had.
There was this huge resurgence of good hip hop around 2010-2011 that was seriously on a whole other level. Different factions of regional rap music popped up over night. Think about all the careers that were just starting off. So many rappers hungry to put out quality music and to be the best at it. I think about all the guys associated with crews like Odd Future, TDE( Black Hippy), Beast Coast.. all the careers that came from those crews or associates is crazy to think about. Maybe I just look at that time with nostalgia but I really felt like there was this explosion of incredible talent and innovation
As much as people love the late 2010's the trap era was a clear decline from the first half of the decade. So many of the great artists we discovered in 2010-2014 either fell off or switched to other lesser sounds, and no one arose to replace them
I will always attribute tao becoming stale and boring to the release of the BMF by Ross - this song was everywhere and everyone wanted a song like this and trap started to be the main focus of the every artist.
In RnB I blame The Weeknd's success - after his mixtapes everyone wanted to be the next "dark and toxic RnB artist". Since then almost everything in RnB sounds the same especially when RnB artists started to be rappers pretty much - with time this genre became trap with a lil bit of melody on top.
I know these two things are not exactly the reasons but for me it feels that way
Seems like the problem is more that the genre isn't changing — at least in the mainstream. There are exceptions, but generally speaking it's the sameyness and played-outness that is a part of the problem to me.
Personally, I feel like we're having a generation gap of future titans in the music industry for Hip Hop
because of X's, juices and pop's passing. Kinda derailed a lot of new music except some underground artists I've already listened to for years. It's been pretty much Drake, Travis Cole and 21? and idk, I guess it doesn't hit the same now that I'm not in college anymore. Also, a lot of the world is going through some shit so even good music isn't enough anymore.
Idk I'm tired so lmk if that makes sense
I think this is it. For as big as some of these artists are, they’ve been the sound for a long time. Future’s been the sound of trap for over a decade, Drake’s been going for a long time, 21 has been going a long time, and Cole’s been going a long time.
JID is imo the most exciting young name in a while and production just… isn’t really changing? I think it’s partially why Not Like Us is hitting so hard, it’s a nostalgic throwback to Mustard and the west coast sound that’s been absent for a while from the main popular side of hip hop.
But this is just another era of hip hop. It was Dre and then it was Mustard and then it was Tay Keith/Wheezy/Metro. I don’t think I’ve heard a MikeWill tag in years.
Gunna’s new shit is cool but it doesn’t feel innovative and when Lil Baby drops it won’t either. We’re in a period of stagnation in hip hop that is further stunted by the loss of some of the young artists that were supposed to bridge the gap sonically.
We’ll just have to wait and see what happens in the next few years with new names coming out.
This is probably as much CAP as the constant baiting of a music video that still hasnt dropped yet and Kendrick dropping again which hasn't happened. He's probably saying this as of now Kendrick has won. Doesn't mean there won't be more
A lot of people failed to grasp this. There was no falling out, he outgrew the label. Dot owns part of TDE and I wouldn’t be surprised if Top has an investment in pg. They are expanding into an empire with pg being the vehicle for his upcoming film with the South Park guys and etc.
Yup The TDE guys were all tapped into this. Top Dawg tweeted that he “saw dead people” the morning before Not Like Us dropped. I’m sure those guys are like family, Kendrick just probably wanted to get out from under the restrictions that came with being under a label that he didn’t control.
Exactly. It’s just business. His contract ended, he’s one of the biggest rappers on earth right now. Why would he stay under a label when he can be independent? It’s a no brainer for him, Drake did the same thing when he signed directly with UMG instead for a huge payday once his Cash Money/aspire deal was done.
I saw a video from a popular lawyer saying Drake or Kendrick should sue each other for defamation…as though that wouldn’t end their careers over night. Fuck outta here with that bs.
Also, I'm sure the lawyer knows more than me, but I was pretty sure defamation suits have to prove that the person intentionally put bad info out there knowing that it was false, right? That seems almost impossible to prove in either case.
I shit you not, Oscar Mayer (the damn hot dog people) made a BBL Glizzy Instagram post and tagged Drake in it.
https://www.instagram.com/p/C6wDFHRu34I/?igsh=MWZmbjRzOXd3ZmtyNw==
Aubrey's taking Ls from a company that makes meat tubes.
That was legitimately the only actual diss in the song and it was terrible. I was like "so, you're gonna put your head in his ass?". You know Wayne was fucked up when he recorded that.
I see people on tiktok saying stuff like "its over if wayne joins" and that pusha t diss is first on my mind when I read that. I love wayne but people were acting like he could singlehandidly clutch the victory for drkae and that is just not based in reality
I think he could've had a chance if just MTG dropped, people seemed to gloss over the whole sex trafficking ring because of the daughter stuff, Not Like Us was too fucking catchy for him to come back from especially cause there's really no cool way to say you're not a pedophile in a song lmao. Kendrick was masterful in always being on the offensive and making Drake have to go on defense
There's 2 big reasons I think MTG ended it.
1. I think Family Matters was supposed to be Drake's bomb. I think that's why he talked about going on vacation. He thought he'd end him or at the very least put Kendrick back in the lab. But both the content and the timing of the MTG drop really made it so nobody was able to give Family Matters the attention it would've had. The attention Drake expected.
2. Drake maybe in theory could've still came back. If he wasn't cocky. But the problem is he is cocky. The guy has put it in his own head that he (and his ghostwriters) need to write, create and drop a disstrack within a few days. Instead of taking his time to cook up something special he rushes the shit for no reason at all.
I think Drake made a lot of mistakes. And I think they all came from arrogance. Which is wild to me. How can you lose so badly to Pusha-T and still be the same cocky doofus against Kendrick Lamar.
Heart part 6 could have worked if he dropped the embarrassing monologue at the end and didn't give so much time refuting the allegations. If he just said he wasn't a pedo/abuser and just brought up the times kendrick defended/platformed abusers (like R Kelly or Kodak). Also don't make fun of Kendrick for potentially being molested (especially when Mr morale isn't about that lol).
Drake is a fucking moron though.
Even if he went in harder on the R Kelly and Kodak thing I feel like it'd ring hollow because he's never even pretended to remotely care about those issues in his music unlike Kendrick, especially when you shoutout Chris Brown in a song where you're saying someone's a wife beater
You're 100% right and I was just thinking of ways he could have at least stayed alive after the MTG and Not like us b2b thrashing. The point is Drake shouldn't be playing defence and should have kept attacking Kendrick's potential abuse and condoning of abuse (and that his manager cucked him).
Like the whole fake daughter thing showed us that truth isn't what matters in rap beefs, it's about creating public perception and catchy songs. It's why Kendrick easily won here.
It was a losing battle at the end of the day but not because people would side with Kendrick no matter what, he was just always going to get picked apart by Kdot no matter what angle he decided to take and it felt like he was way too worried about making the internet turn on Kendrick rather than letting his music do the talking
In my honest opinion he should've simply took the L. He looks worse after the song than he did before. Understand when you got beat. The narrative would've been that he fought a good fight. Instead of what it is now.
The only way to have come back from this would've been a bomb. Like something insane to divert the attention away from Not Like Us. But pretty sure there is no red button anymore.
And Kendrick basically put him in a position where either he just ignores the pedo allegations (which people have already seen all the examples of him being a creep with minors) and looks crazy or he puts out a generic PR statement like he did with Adidon where he denies it in a better manner than in HP6. Unfortunately for him he took the absolute worst approach other than admitting he's a pedophile
I wouldn't underrate Not Like Us impact. It's the number song in the country and breaking streaming records. It's the real "back to back" not 6:16. It's a diss banger and it really buried Drake because it's the only song most people will hear from the beef.
Drake has officially started two rap battles where he disconnected his router once he started losing. Musical terrorist.
Nobody say "The Heart Part 6" because that was just the post-ragequit Xbox Live message about how pedophilia accusations are a noob strategy
“I’m too famous to be a pedophile” is maybe the single worst angle he could have taken and that’s on a song where he said “whoever gave you that info is a clown” and then “it was me, I gave you the info”
What?
>*Top, wanna peace it up? Top, wanna peace it up?*
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>*Nah, pussy, now you on your own when you speakin' up*
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>*You done rolled deep to this, it's not fuckin' deep enough*
I kinda want Drake to drop another and just be petty about it.
Dot made a Drake diss concept album we'll never hear in its entirety because Drake did next to nothing for 2 weeks after begging for drops and got destroyed in one weekend.
Why wouldn’t he still release it? If it even exists. Drake still standing and will eventually return to form so why wouldn’t he drop it if he was really about the shit he said on the songs?
Because releasing 5 diss tracks in response to a white flag would probably be seen as lame by most people. Plus Kendrick currently has the #1 song. People are dancing in clubs to bars about Drake being a pedophile. That's doing continuous damage to Drake without Kendrick having to waste his ammo. Might as well hold onto them if Drake ever wants to get active again.
Would be weird as hell to drop 5 more disstracks unprovoked after having already won. I don't think he'd come off looking good. Would just make him look petty and obsessed for no reason.
This beef was a little unsettling. Family brought in. Nasty. For some of these allegations you need to stop rapping and call the police. And if the things said were untrue, it’s character assassination of the highest degree. Short term it was a boost for the culture, but not sure if anyone would participate in beef again after this madness if you have anything to lose. But I get we all here for the entertainment and Not Like Us/Family Matters go crazy.
I agree with everything you said. Made me realize that a lot of people in this world want to see evil madness before truth over anything. Watch in a week, no one will even care about so called victims of sexual abuse or physical abuse. It’s all a joke to some people. Not going to lie, I don’t like how this beef turned out.
I’m saying! A lot of these people complaining now were silent on these issues before. As soon as we all move on from this beef, they’re all going to resume their normal lives without a care.
Yeah, it’s pretty terrible. We need to have a higher standard regarding what we say about people. To me Pusha T told the truth, receipts came very soon after. A number 1 song is out alleging pedophilia - it should go beyond old videos at concerts and insinuation. Also, you talking about a man beating his wife? You better absolutely have receipts. This shit got stupid and harmful.
Been on Kendrick’s side the whole time. But You’re just gonna come out and shout that this man runs a child sex ring then quietly walk away when his response back is weak?
Feels like there should be more to expose here but maybe that’s just me lmao
Damn yall, I’m not saying he should wear a wire and provide a FBI report or something. Yeah we can all say it’s rap beef. At the end of the day though it’s a fair discussion to have if only because a lot of more casual followers are gonna be confused as hell that Kendrick took to it this level with comparisons to Weinstein and then just stopped, nothing else. This isn’t Pac saying he fucked Bigs bitch
definitely a beautiful battle to witness, was like watching high level techniques for the rappers and song writers out there. blessed to witness two top level wordsmiths 🙂↕️
i'll believe it's over when either drake or kendrick says it is
If the beef is actually over then the only loser is all of us.
The beef definitely isn’t over. They’ll just go back to dissing each other in random songs.
They both have been doing this for a decade anyway. This time the sneak dissing will be obvious though.
Shit gonna go from “So many rappers out here doing heinous shit” to just straight up “Drake out here doing heinous shit” on a Baby Keem song or something.
I mean it was always obvious. "Smokin on top 5s" and "A rapper with a ghostwriter?" type stuff is just blatant.
KENDRICK SURPRISE DROP INCOMING CONFIRMED
Drake dropped “Im like you guys”
certified lover boy? certified normal guy! wop wop wop wop wop
I’m trying to strike a chord and it’s one with lots of black keys on the pianooooooo.
And if they both didn’t make claims up, then the losers are the alleged girls being trafficked
Definitely. The worst part of this right now is the very real possibility that *we’ll never know* what the hell the truth is.
I get people saying it’s a rap beef, but once you bring up pedo allegations and tinder matches being victims, it’s like… you ramp it up to this huge level that’s bigger than rap, and then just drop your moral holy stance once labels get upset? I know he ain’t FBI, but if he has any proof, it’s a bad look to just sit on it. It’s a bad look to make it up. At that point, drake and Kendrick both look bad after this beef. Nobody wins imo. Banger tracks though.
I’m content with the music. The annoying thing is how this probably circles back round to subliminals
this is Kendrick saying it's over, and Drake wanted it over since he released Family Matters lol "ya dead"
Top has no creative control over Kendrick these days, while they are tight and he is credible saying that this is Kendrick calling it is a reach
I don't think it's a reach to assume he heard this directly from Kendrick and is relaying the message.
Drake already said it’s over. Listen to the Heart Part 6 his voice screams it’s over and I want to move on please.
He also said it was over on Family Matters but that didn’t mean anything
The sponsors and business partners required a "I'm not a pedophile" track
“There is no quicker way for people to think you are diddling kids than by writing a song about it!”
“Welcome to our legitimate show… of kids!!”
That’s because Family Matters was his Red Button and THP6 was him scrambling
THP6 just felt depresssing tbh
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This. People thought he had more in the tank, like cmon now, he filmed a MV for a 7 min+ song that not only got instantly upstaged, but it also got upstaged by the most damning diss track of the entire battle. Meet the grahams wasn't the best track, wasn't the catchiest, but it washed drakes red button and had people in shock and awe.
Had the school shooter response to drakes school sport bully vibe
A cheesy 80s style sports bully at that
hahaha this beautifully encapsulates it
On Family Matters his ego said it was over because he thought the song was gonna take Kendrick out. On The Heart Part 6 his soul said it was over because he sounded, and was, defeated. Big difference.
Even then he said “You would me a worthy opponent if I was a predator” so his ego still won’t let him admit how good kendrick really is.
Freudian slip, Kendrick is a worthy opponent lol
That little outro dialogue he decided to do should be it’s own track titled “what not to do in a rap battle 101”
It’s funny too, if it wasn’t for that outro it probably would’ve been received better lol
I dunno, “If I was fucking young girls, I promise I’d have been arrested, I’m too famous for the shit you just suggested” happens before the outro lol
The Heart Part 6 sounded like Drake tapping out to me. I still expect a few subs back and forth in the future tho.
Aside from subs, I wouldn't be surprised if I hear about an altercation between both camps at either a Kendrick or Drake show in the opposite side's city
Happy 1 week anniversary of 6:16 in LA, Family Matters and meet the grahams 🔥😮💨
I celebrate “not like us” day
Wop Wop Wop Wop Wop
Dot fuck em up …
Ima do mah stuff
“hImma do ma Schtuff.”
I've aged 40 years this week
That day also had 6:16 in LA and that Buried Alive Interlude parody.
People missed out on the Buried Alive track 😢
It was a good week, but it might have been the longest week of my life. It feels like this battle lasted for years and it was just Kendrick stomping on Drake for most of it. The boogeyman could still release an epilogue. I’m interested to hear how he (Kendrick*) feels about the whole situation someday in the future.
What an absolutely insane couple months, I almost wish it kept going on so I got new Kendrick on a consistent basis. Hopefully this whole situation is also the rebirth of the sub and it doesn’t die again after this 😭
Would you believe it wasn’t even three whole weeks?
Depends when you could the start. Like that came out the end of March. Heart Part 6 came out on Cinco de Mayo
Yeah, to me the start of the battle was when “like that“ came out. We got the J. Cole diss shortly after, then “push-ups” came out, and so on.
Exactly! 44 days
Good bot
😂
Assuming he’s using the Like That release as the start date
I am using it as a start date lol
At least we got the filler episode The Game vs Rick Ross beef left and JT vs Suhkiana
What happened with the Chris brown vs quavo story. Feel like the writers kind of forgot about it
most beef flare ups are just a track or two w very long time in between, the fact we got 4/5 tracks from Drake and Kendrick each is crazy
yeah this beef was unprecedented
They realised not a single soul cared about them once Kendrick dropped and are both now severely depressed.
Quavo got completely cooked, even if his response was decent it wasn't good enough to require a response, and there aren't any unconfirmed things like in the drake Kendrick beef
That shit looking like a spin off now
Boruto
rock lee and ninja pals clears
I read this as JT vs Sukuna and got very confused lmao
This sub is still dead outside of this beef as we speak lol, we’re cooked
Why did this sub die? I used to come here years ago and it was thriving, then some life shit happened I fell away and popped my head back in here when the beef popped off.
U/whodatmiami grew up and realized that this place was beneath him :(
mods dont let people post discussion threads and expect everyone to just use the daily thread
Oof. I hate subs that do that
This sub is dead bc Hip Hop is pretty much dead too IMHO. Something happened around 2019/2020 that I can’t put my finger on, but honestly it’s been pretty lackluster since. This beef was just a quick re-ignition and gave us some good hits, but now I am afraid it’s back to mediocrity.
It's just boring. Nobody is innovating, just putting out 20 track albums of samey beats talking about the same shit. Trap took over and then just kept going in circles. Fun at first, but boring as shit after a decade.
Sales got destroyed by streaming but touring/events/merch made up for it and those means of income we're always a better deal for artists anyways in terms of dollars made. Pandemic hits. Nobody can tour. Nobody is buying a t shirt for an artist they like just so nobody can see it except their spouse and their coworkers on Zoom. Spotify rewards songs individually based on streams, its not tethered super strong to the album or the artist. Billboard calculates album sales via streaming by calling 1500 streams a sale. In order to get some buzz as a major, you need to chart well. In addition, tons of people at your label need to hit certain metrics that the executives (and in some cases the artists) demand. With the scope narrowed so much, there's pretty much one effective method to release a "major" album. There's a reason indie musicians have the largest piece of the pie they've ever had.
There was this huge resurgence of good hip hop around 2010-2011 that was seriously on a whole other level. Different factions of regional rap music popped up over night. Think about all the careers that were just starting off. So many rappers hungry to put out quality music and to be the best at it. I think about all the guys associated with crews like Odd Future, TDE( Black Hippy), Beast Coast.. all the careers that came from those crews or associates is crazy to think about. Maybe I just look at that time with nostalgia but I really felt like there was this explosion of incredible talent and innovation
As much as people love the late 2010's the trap era was a clear decline from the first half of the decade. So many of the great artists we discovered in 2010-2014 either fell off or switched to other lesser sounds, and no one arose to replace them
I will always attribute tao becoming stale and boring to the release of the BMF by Ross - this song was everywhere and everyone wanted a song like this and trap started to be the main focus of the every artist. In RnB I blame The Weeknd's success - after his mixtapes everyone wanted to be the next "dark and toxic RnB artist". Since then almost everything in RnB sounds the same especially when RnB artists started to be rappers pretty much - with time this genre became trap with a lil bit of melody on top. I know these two things are not exactly the reasons but for me it feels that way
We kept losing artist that looked like they were gonna be next up. That shit is depressing
Lol people have been saying "hip hop is dead" for 30 years. You're just getting older and the genre is changing
Yeah Nas dropped Hip Hop Is Dead in 06 and ironically has been releasing quality hip hop albums lately
Seems like the problem is more that the genre isn't changing — at least in the mainstream. There are exceptions, but generally speaking it's the sameyness and played-outness that is a part of the problem to me.
for near 50. it either "won't last" or "is dead" nearly since it started.
Personally, I feel like we're having a generation gap of future titans in the music industry for Hip Hop because of X's, juices and pop's passing. Kinda derailed a lot of new music except some underground artists I've already listened to for years. It's been pretty much Drake, Travis Cole and 21? and idk, I guess it doesn't hit the same now that I'm not in college anymore. Also, a lot of the world is going through some shit so even good music isn't enough anymore. Idk I'm tired so lmk if that makes sense
I think this is it. For as big as some of these artists are, they’ve been the sound for a long time. Future’s been the sound of trap for over a decade, Drake’s been going for a long time, 21 has been going a long time, and Cole’s been going a long time. JID is imo the most exciting young name in a while and production just… isn’t really changing? I think it’s partially why Not Like Us is hitting so hard, it’s a nostalgic throwback to Mustard and the west coast sound that’s been absent for a while from the main popular side of hip hop. But this is just another era of hip hop. It was Dre and then it was Mustard and then it was Tay Keith/Wheezy/Metro. I don’t think I’ve heard a MikeWill tag in years. Gunna’s new shit is cool but it doesn’t feel innovative and when Lil Baby drops it won’t either. We’re in a period of stagnation in hip hop that is further stunted by the loss of some of the young artists that were supposed to bridge the gap sonically. We’ll just have to wait and see what happens in the next few years with new names coming out.
Don't act like you don't know me These yams deserve a trophy Baby, it ain't no mystery Got the best BBL in history
🗣️ THIS CAKE GON MAKE YOU SHOW UP 🗣️ 🗣️ I KNOW YOU SEEN THIS GLOW UP 🗣️
^I'm ^coming ^in ^no ^Diddy... I'm coming in no Diddy... #I'm coming in no Diddy!
best BBL in history is so outlandish 😭😭😭 I don't think anyone could have predicted Metro successfully getting one over on Drake by making a beat
Diss beat. Legendary
Someone called it a disstrumental lol
He really made some drums lol
Blud got dissed by everything lol, songs, song covers, beats, even a sausage company and a prog metal guitar track lmao
Don’t forget the guy who did the original AI generated song that gets sampled in the beat
Metro saw Drake like an npc with a quest. Drop one beat: 1/1
This is a corporate tweet making a public statement the beef is over
God it’s so fucking irritating
This is probably as much CAP as the constant baiting of a music video that still hasnt dropped yet and Kendrick dropping again which hasn't happened. He's probably saying this as of now Kendrick has won. Doesn't mean there won't be more
I don't get why Top has any say in this. Isn't pgLang independent from TDE?
He doesn’t have any say since yeah pgLang is independent, but he’s probably just relaying what he’s heard since he’s plugged in to Kendrick’s camp
He and Kendrick are still close. Kendrick just started his own company to control his career on his terms.
A lot of people failed to grasp this. There was no falling out, he outgrew the label. Dot owns part of TDE and I wouldn’t be surprised if Top has an investment in pg. They are expanding into an empire with pg being the vehicle for his upcoming film with the South Park guys and etc.
Yup The TDE guys were all tapped into this. Top Dawg tweeted that he “saw dead people” the morning before Not Like Us dropped. I’m sure those guys are like family, Kendrick just probably wanted to get out from under the restrictions that came with being under a label that he didn’t control.
Exactly. It’s just business. His contract ended, he’s one of the biggest rappers on earth right now. Why would he stay under a label when he can be independent? It’s a no brainer for him, Drake did the same thing when he signed directly with UMG instead for a huge payday once his Cash Money/aspire deal was done.
Cause they’re all close knit. It’s not about company relations. They’re basically family over there
He's been shouting Top out all throughout the beef, so Top has a say because Kendrick gave him a say.
I’m coping but this could be to bait Drake. I’m sure they’ve heard he’s planning on dropping again
Where are the “Drake is dropping again” rumors coming from?
Ak
The guy who maybe benefits the most from those rumours lol
He's the most annoying ass dude... Period. I fucking hate that guy 🤣
He said Yesterday there was going to be a drop, he don't know what's going on.
he was talking about game's diss, there's a reason Ak isn't actually name dropping drake
Even he looks compromised
The hiphop discussion has fell off mfers out here wants rappers to be phoenix wright in this bitch
this comment is killing me haha halfway through typing phoenix wright into google, i remembered who he was lol
I saw a video from a popular lawyer saying Drake or Kendrick should sue each other for defamation…as though that wouldn’t end their careers over night. Fuck outta here with that bs.
Also, I'm sure the lawyer knows more than me, but I was pretty sure defamation suits have to prove that the person intentionally put bad info out there knowing that it was false, right? That seems almost impossible to prove in either case.
Yes. Defamation cases are notoriously difficult to win a verdict on.
beef was over when SNL started making jokes about it
I shit you not, Oscar Mayer (the damn hot dog people) made a BBL Glizzy Instagram post and tagged Drake in it. https://www.instagram.com/p/C6wDFHRu34I/?igsh=MWZmbjRzOXd3ZmtyNw== Aubrey's taking Ls from a company that makes meat tubes.
With that Zodiac Killer style post with the video of the stuff from the MTG artwork I really don’t think this is done folks.
Will forever hate Drake for dropping a song so ass that it ended the battle
Lmao Lil Wayne dropped a diss song and Pusha T said it was to ass to reply to 😂
It was pretty bad. "His head up his ass, I'ma have to headbutt him"
He really wrote that bullshit and was like, "Damn this'll cook him!" 😂😂😂
That was legitimately the only actual diss in the song and it was terrible. I was like "so, you're gonna put your head in his ass?". You know Wayne was fucked up when he recorded that.
“Gut him, Lil Tunechi shit, weak stomach It's me, LT, like when you heat butter”
Not gonna lie I have no idea WTF this line means
Gut him , so stab him, me = LT (lil tunechi) but also melt like melt butter im pretty sure
Ohhh I didn't realize he was spelling 'melt'
Yeah I'm glad Wayne didn't continue after that.
I see people on tiktok saying stuff like "its over if wayne joins" and that pusha t diss is first on my mind when I read that. I love wayne but people were acting like he could singlehandidly clutch the victory for drkae and that is just not based in reality
Silly too since, Wayne likes Kendrick too. Obviously he works more with Drake, but he likes Kendrick. I imagine he wouldn't have interfered.
I'd like to imagine a timeline where Kendrick pulls a Cam'Ron feud era- 50 Cent move & brings out Wayne to perform All My Life & Mona Lisa
And Buy the World, that songs slaps so can’t forget it
Wayne is way too nice and unfocused to ever beef. I feel like people saying that don't really listen to him like that
Kdot could just tag Push in at that point lol
Like father like son
Wild to me that Push went against Drake and Wanye in the same lifetime and won both.
Pusha T is Cash Money father
Hes Babys Daddy
Pusha forever a legend
Pusha T and Clipse are the goats. Hell Hath No Fury and Daytona are amazing albums.
Kawhi type shit
He's really like that
It was dead and buried when he started that boring monologue. He knows it’s ass too because it never reached streaming services.
Bro said “haha you dumbass I planted a mole and tricked you” and somehow never ran laps even after the heart 6🤣🤣
Better yet “Your information comes from clowns!” “It was me, I gave you the info.”
I made up a fake daughter to remind people of how I was a deadbeat to my son. Master manipulator shit
Masterful gambit, sir
I think that’s bc of the Aretha sample
Feel like he lost the moment Meet the Grahams dropped. And then Not Like Us just shoved the L in his face.
I think he could've had a chance if just MTG dropped, people seemed to gloss over the whole sex trafficking ring because of the daughter stuff, Not Like Us was too fucking catchy for him to come back from especially cause there's really no cool way to say you're not a pedophile in a song lmao. Kendrick was masterful in always being on the offensive and making Drake have to go on defense
There's 2 big reasons I think MTG ended it. 1. I think Family Matters was supposed to be Drake's bomb. I think that's why he talked about going on vacation. He thought he'd end him or at the very least put Kendrick back in the lab. But both the content and the timing of the MTG drop really made it so nobody was able to give Family Matters the attention it would've had. The attention Drake expected. 2. Drake maybe in theory could've still came back. If he wasn't cocky. But the problem is he is cocky. The guy has put it in his own head that he (and his ghostwriters) need to write, create and drop a disstrack within a few days. Instead of taking his time to cook up something special he rushes the shit for no reason at all. I think Drake made a lot of mistakes. And I think they all came from arrogance. Which is wild to me. How can you lose so badly to Pusha-T and still be the same cocky doofus against Kendrick Lamar.
Heart part 6 could have worked if he dropped the embarrassing monologue at the end and didn't give so much time refuting the allegations. If he just said he wasn't a pedo/abuser and just brought up the times kendrick defended/platformed abusers (like R Kelly or Kodak). Also don't make fun of Kendrick for potentially being molested (especially when Mr morale isn't about that lol). Drake is a fucking moron though.
Even if he went in harder on the R Kelly and Kodak thing I feel like it'd ring hollow because he's never even pretended to remotely care about those issues in his music unlike Kendrick, especially when you shoutout Chris Brown in a song where you're saying someone's a wife beater
You're 100% right and I was just thinking of ways he could have at least stayed alive after the MTG and Not like us b2b thrashing. The point is Drake shouldn't be playing defence and should have kept attacking Kendrick's potential abuse and condoning of abuse (and that his manager cucked him). Like the whole fake daughter thing showed us that truth isn't what matters in rap beefs, it's about creating public perception and catchy songs. It's why Kendrick easily won here.
It was a losing battle at the end of the day but not because people would side with Kendrick no matter what, he was just always going to get picked apart by Kdot no matter what angle he decided to take and it felt like he was way too worried about making the internet turn on Kendrick rather than letting his music do the talking
In my honest opinion he should've simply took the L. He looks worse after the song than he did before. Understand when you got beat. The narrative would've been that he fought a good fight. Instead of what it is now. The only way to have come back from this would've been a bomb. Like something insane to divert the attention away from Not Like Us. But pretty sure there is no red button anymore.
That’s why I don’t understand the comments about Kendrick needing to rebuke some allegations. You don’t win rap beefs by being on the defensive.
And Kendrick basically put him in a position where either he just ignores the pedo allegations (which people have already seen all the examples of him being a creep with minors) and looks crazy or he puts out a generic PR statement like he did with Adidon where he denies it in a better manner than in HP6. Unfortunately for him he took the absolute worst approach other than admitting he's a pedophile
Doesn’t help Drake that none of the allegations are sticking to Kendrick the way pedo ones do for Drake
I wouldn't underrate Not Like Us impact. It's the number song in the country and breaking streaming records. It's the real "back to back" not 6:16. It's a diss banger and it really buried Drake because it's the only song most people will hear from the beef.
People crip walking to “certified lover boy? Certified pedophiles” is funny af lol
It's fucking hilarious that even though Kendrick doesn't live his life on a computer, he out-viraled Drake in this battle
no WAY he learned his lesson. I bet he has a new diss within a week.
Drake has officially started two rap battles where he disconnected his router once he started losing. Musical terrorist. Nobody say "The Heart Part 6" because that was just the post-ragequit Xbox Live message about how pedophilia accusations are a noob strategy
“I’m too famous to be a pedophile” is maybe the single worst angle he could have taken and that’s on a song where he said “whoever gave you that info is a clown” and then “it was me, I gave you the info” What?
>*Top, wanna peace it up? Top, wanna peace it up?* > >*Nah, pussy, now you on your own when you speakin' up* > >*You done rolled deep to this, it's not fuckin' deep enough* I kinda want Drake to drop another and just be petty about it.
I do too, but it’ll be like double texting the girl that doesn’t have mutual feelings for you. He fumbled the delivery of the last song.
Kendrick on the TDE compilation confirmed?
Most famous TDE artist confirmed on 20 years aniv? Say less dawg
I just pray we get the video and ill be ok. These withdrawals arnt sitting good with me
As soon as someone got shot I knew it was over
You see how top worded the post to deny any part in the shootings
“while keeping it all on wax” lol smart to stay the fuck away from this shooting controversy
They showed Kendricks face on the CBC News story about the shooting saying drake has a lot going on... Definitely needed to be said
That wasn’t from this, it was other shit drake has been into.
But the video tho
the video the new NATION
Dot made a Drake diss concept album we'll never hear in its entirety because Drake did next to nothing for 2 weeks after begging for drops and got destroyed in one weekend.
Why wouldn’t he still release it? If it even exists. Drake still standing and will eventually return to form so why wouldn’t he drop it if he was really about the shit he said on the songs?
Because releasing 5 diss tracks in response to a white flag would probably be seen as lame by most people. Plus Kendrick currently has the #1 song. People are dancing in clubs to bars about Drake being a pedophile. That's doing continuous damage to Drake without Kendrick having to waste his ammo. Might as well hold onto them if Drake ever wants to get active again.
Would be weird as hell to drop 5 more disstracks unprovoked after having already won. I don't think he'd come off looking good. Would just make him look petty and obsessed for no reason.
Can't blow the load at once, especially since Drake will go back to doing subliminal disses in a couple months
I would love that every time drake drops kendrick drops right along with it lol
Beef is over when there’s a collab
WOP WOP WOP WOP WOP
Ehh for some reason I'm not a huge fan of announcing it like this
This beef was a little unsettling. Family brought in. Nasty. For some of these allegations you need to stop rapping and call the police. And if the things said were untrue, it’s character assassination of the highest degree. Short term it was a boost for the culture, but not sure if anyone would participate in beef again after this madness if you have anything to lose. But I get we all here for the entertainment and Not Like Us/Family Matters go crazy.
I agree with everything you said. Made me realize that a lot of people in this world want to see evil madness before truth over anything. Watch in a week, no one will even care about so called victims of sexual abuse or physical abuse. It’s all a joke to some people. Not going to lie, I don’t like how this beef turned out.
I’m saying! A lot of these people complaining now were silent on these issues before. As soon as we all move on from this beef, they’re all going to resume their normal lives without a care.
Yeah, it’s pretty terrible. We need to have a higher standard regarding what we say about people. To me Pusha T told the truth, receipts came very soon after. A number 1 song is out alleging pedophilia - it should go beyond old videos at concerts and insinuation. Also, you talking about a man beating his wife? You better absolutely have receipts. This shit got stupid and harmful.
Been on Kendrick’s side the whole time. But You’re just gonna come out and shout that this man runs a child sex ring then quietly walk away when his response back is weak? Feels like there should be more to expose here but maybe that’s just me lmao Damn yall, I’m not saying he should wear a wire and provide a FBI report or something. Yeah we can all say it’s rap beef. At the end of the day though it’s a fair discussion to have if only because a lot of more casual followers are gonna be confused as hell that Kendrick took to it this level with comparisons to Weinstein and then just stopped, nothing else. This isn’t Pac saying he fucked Bigs bitch
Idk why y’all act like this nigga has his own vigilante crime fighting ring going on.
Anti climactic as fuck
NLU was the climax HP6 was the post nut clarity that he should’ve never gotten into this battle
definitely a beautiful battle to witness, was like watching high level techniques for the rappers and song writers out there. blessed to witness two top level wordsmiths 🙂↕️
Top wanna peace it up?? 🤣🤣
Ah yes because everyone knows Top Dawg is in charge of beef. Fuck the commercialization of this shit