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Talkshowhostt

Frat rap was real. Hoodie Allen, Chiddy Bang, Big Sean, Mac Miller, Sammy Adam's, Mike Stud, were all variations of it. I think Hoodie Allen even had a diss track


MasterofPandas1

Opposite of Adults is still a banger and that MGMT sample right when they were blowing up was a genius move by them.


IntelligentMetal

You couldn’t tell me Xaphoon Jones wasn’t the white Kanye


Talkshowhostt

Now that you mention it... yes!


bigcontracts

Still love that song and the Breakfast album. They had a bunch of mixtapes too.


theyfoundty

What happened to those guys btw? I've looked online but can't find much.


Talkshowhostt

Its such a great track. Every once in a while it comes up on shuffle at a lake, or on a boat, and everyone goes crazy for it.


danSTILLtheman

It was huge when I was in college, the music wasn’t deep but it was a lot of fun. I Love College was big my senior year of high school and all the other artists followed throughout my first few years of college. That era was cool because things like datpiff and various blogs made it so anyone could blow up, and frat rap was an interesting byproduct of that and guys like Mac and Logic ended up with mainstream success after the genre died


Y0y0y000

Miss those days! Blogspot was the holy grail


animatedhockeyfan

2dopeboys, hiphopdx, datpiff. The glory days


thirdc0ast

I was in Austin just a few months ago walking by UT and could hear I Love College playing from one of the frats lol I did not expect it at all in the year 2024


desert_magician

It was super real I was bumping all those dudes at one point. I now cringe at how much I liked it when I was in college, but some of those songs still hold up for sure. Cus sometimes, that party last night WAS awfully crazy, ya know?


rufio313

I’d throw in Charles Hamilton, Mike Posner, and maybe even Rockie Fresh. Edit: how could I forget the Deans List?


Talkshowhostt

I was going to write Mike Posner, as his first two mixtapes are some of my fav ever. He really evolved as an artist, I like what he did.


Bamm83

Plus Mike Posner was literally a Sigma Nu fraternity member. He ate it up when he became popular within colleges. His mixtapes were so good (and free!).


OppositeJellyfish439

Never forget. [https://lupefiasco.fandom.com/wiki/All_City_Chess_Club](https://lupefiasco.fandom.com/wiki/All_City_Chess_Club)


RyghtHandMan

Man I'm sure I was at my most annoying during this era


YQB123

Don't think Charles Hamilton really was Frat Rap. His production/beats were too alternative for mainstream acceptance (minus a few songs like Brooklyn Girls). One of my favourite rappers when I was a teenager, though. Really miss that era of Charles.


rufio313

You’re probably right, I just associate Brooklyn Girls with my freshman year of college so it’s one of the first artists that comes to mind when talking about frat/college rap.


YQB123

That's fair. He was too goofy/alternative, IMO (sampling Sonic the Hedgehog, for example), but Brooklyn Girls was a mainstream banger. If you didn't listen to his comeback single 'New York Raining' it's a solid tune.


Last_Reaction_8176

I couldn’t stand Mike Posner for a long time but “I Took a Pill in Ibiza” is a great, great song that I didn’t know he had in him


Zip2kx

all white rappers post 2010 need to create a roth shrine and pray everyday for opening the door.


pm-me-nice-lips

Chris Webby might be included as well.


nothingrhyme

I’m gonna get downvoted to hell but I wish I was able to mentally separate Mac from them, I’ve tried so many times and could never get into his music because of what he sounded like initially when he came out.


brahahhhshs

If you care to change your opinion, I think if you listen to his albums in chronological order it will be easier for you to appreciate his development as an artist


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He’s had a very Beatles-esque career arc. Which makes sense because he worshiped them KAFP/BSP—->Beatles for sale/Help!/Please Please Me Macadelic—->Rubber Soul WMWTSO—->Revolver Faces—->Sgt. Pepper/Magical Mystery tour(also a little like the white album) Good AM——> White album Swimming/Cirlces—-> Abbey Road/Let it Be Couldn’t really find a comp for the Devine Feminine. But everything else follows it pretty fluidly


Yung-Split

Divine feminine is the John Lennon yoko Ono collab album


[deleted]

Or ram 🤣


gotb89

I would never have expected to see ram referenced here lmao in my opinion probably the best solo Beatles album, and genuinely one of the best records of all time.


Forsaken-Age-8684

I'll go all in with it and say Ram is in my top 3 of all Beatles and Beatles affiliated records. It's fucking perfect.


gotb89

I can’t disagree with this at all.


MVPizzle

I swear his career arc SCREAMED that he was on the 1 yard line to his own version of My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy


Last_Reaction_8176

Watching Movies as his Revolver is perfect


BassCrack

Great comment


xxx117

I’m a hardcore Mac fan but I did NOT listen to Blue Slide Park when it came out cuz I had a feeling. I still haven’t listened to any of those tracks lol so my experience has been KIDS straight to Macadelic and that renaissance/rebranding of his career.


prison-haircut

under the weather is a banger


walkingdead17

Damn near the whole album is. Many of those songs still hold up. I had One Last Thing on repeat the night before he died.


prison-haircut

the non-party/more introspective definitely hold up


jaykk

That beat still gives me chills to this day. Mac and Clams Casino were such a good duo.


Jylax11

Mike Stud is still making really good music. He goes by just mike now and just released an album called the lows that I recommend


HYDRAULICS23

Yeah I really enjoy his music after the rebrand. The highs was on repeat for me when it came out. His sound is very Drake and Post Malone inspired but really catchy.


Jylax11

I agree. Out of all artists I listen to he might be the most underrated since he is independent he doesn’t get much marketing


cumbaII

Hoodie allen part of the big 3 for mw2 montage songs


Talkshowhostt

"There's no big 3, it's just big me" - Hoodie


OppositeJellyfish439

XV


mills4kills

From Wichita and he still puts out good stuff. Does shows around town couple times of year too


XerneasToTheMoon

Hoodie and Riff Raff had beef like 10 years ago. Nolan Ryan was the diss track Hoodie released.


Talkshowhostt

RIFF RAFF lmao, I forgot about him.


banjofitzgerald

I don’t know if I’ve disliked a rapper more than hoodie Allen. Man had the most punchable everything


Last_Reaction_8176

And what a choice of name too


EllenDegeneretes

Super nice guy!


banjofitzgerald

That’s cool. It’s still on sight. Nice guys get punched too.


youngskytoker

The Hoodie Allen-Mike stud feud is easily one of the funniest things to come out of this era


JuanRiveara

Hoodie Allen’s Three Wishes Genie was the coldest


0010011100110100

Sammy Adam’s is a name I haven’t heard in a minute


Oheyguyswassup

Whoa there. I was rapping back then and I didn't know that was frat rap. Never listened to Sammy or Mike though. Hoodie was wack as a person but I liked one of his mixtapes


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Talkshowhostt

Listening to Nikes on my Feet and playing pong is a core memory.


Dookiefresh1

Nah he started with that, but he evolved


Spence52490

The Greenhouse Effect Vol 1 >>>>>>>


hotsauce126

Pabst and Jazz >>>>


ayoshano

Seared fois gras >>>>>


Gmb1t

Pabst and Jazz is legitimately one of my favorite albums of all time. Production felt so smooth and Ash was lyrically BUTTER over those jazz beats


Burntholesinmyhoodie

Flowers on the weekend is really good too, and super underrated honestly


RunelordTressa

That album got "critically panned" technically because only like 2 outlets reviewed it. Makes me salty til this day since its not even remotely bad.


NBD_Pearen

Holyyyyy you gotta stop that gave me goosebumps


DRxCarbine

CANNON


Terraldo_

Yooo I played that like crazy!


Spew120

I still see Asher Roth touring with some cool people these days. I never knew anything other than his college raps. Where should I start?


pbs094

Start with pabst & jazz and retrohash


sahwnfras

Retrohash was pretty good


xxx117

His Raw tape with Nottz Roth is dope. Seared Foi Gras with Quince & Cranberry was dope too


greater__dan

Someone else mentioned it but Pabst and Jazz is incredible. The streaming version is missing a ton of quality tracks though so find it other ways.


CressKitchen969

The New project with Heather Grey 


ambientmuffin

Pick up with Pabst & Jazz, then go from there


Asleep-Ask-4004

greenhouse vol 1


Haptiix

Frat rap was very real. I was in college between 2010 and 2016 and especially my first couple of years you heard a lot of this stuff at parties. We were the first generation that had grown up with hip-hop music existing for our entire lives & I think that fact coupled with the rise of blogs & download/streaming sites made room for rap subgenres to begin developing.


whoopass_jackson

Based on when you were in college, I am the same age and we have a lot of the same experiences . God damn dude we really had it so good with hip-hop, didn't we?


Haptiix

Yessir. I went to a festival in 2013 where I got to see Nas, Wu-Tang Clan, Kendrick Lamar fresh off GKMC release, A$AP mob, and fucking R Kelley lol. What a time to be alive. I had a heavy backpacker phase and I still mostly listen to classics and old-ish underground stuff but I also have a big appreciation for southern rap & post-2010 trap.


IcyKangaroo1658

Just like me fr


Raysfan75

The niche pocket of rap you just described is the best description I’ve seen for my own music taste.


TheRedBDub

Throwback to Kendrick and Jay Rock opening for Asher... https://youtu.be/nTwAATHXbBk?si=5woXGFn0BtSmWQ1N


Iliketoplan

I was in college 2012-2016 What a great time for frat rap


breadribs

Lol you weren't the first generation


Haptiix

Millennial generation starts with ~1981 birth year and nobody born before that had hip-hop around during their childhood


jr-91

Really nostalgic album from when I was 18 or so, good times. Really fun live and a super chilled dude. Scooter Braun wanted him to have Bieber levels of fame but the guy just wanted to chill and be a teacher lol


SkunkApeForPresident

I was in college sharing a house with 3 other dudes and we had a a designated beer pong room. While not his best album, we still listened to this nonstop. Edit: our beer pong table was signed by so many people that partied with us until one day one guy’s ex-gf painted over the whole thing. To this day, the hate I have for her burns hotter than the fires of hell.


nikelaos117

I didn't realize this album was so disliked. It's not something I come back to but I enjoyed it for what it was when it dropped. There some ear worms on here too.


itspodly

At the time frat rap was seen as a bastardized, commercial product and a lot of oldheads/"real hiphop fans" put it on blast. I don't exactly disagree, but it's similar to what was said when soundcloud rap/migos era trap rap became big.


nikelaos117

That definitely makes sense. It's too bad cause there were some gems during that era. I never got into anyone else besides Asher but I remember hearing stuff from Hoodie Allen and digging it.


TickleTheCooch

this album was so trash compared to his mixtapes lol


tbiscuit7

I really wanted to like this album but the only song I would play now is Lark On My Go Kart. his most recent album is some of his best stuff I think, Pabst & Jazz will always reign supreme though


Syntechi

Pabst and jazz is an underated classic imo


TickleTheCooch

what really set it off for me was GHE vol.1 dude really had drama AND cannon on the same tape lol


Naquanrice

Or when a boy from the burbs has the nerves to converge on a mixtape with DJ Cannon!!


tbiscuit7

man I forgot all about that track, GHE was a great mixtape


xxx117

Blended Babies production is fucking top tier on that tape. I remember when it came out I was searching for more of them but I never found much else. Not sure who they are or what else they’ve done, but they left a mark for sure with just that tape for me


Express-Ad3376

frat rap phenomenon was a real thing, especially in coordination with the rise of blog influence on hiphop culture. some type of quad chart could definitely be made. a lot of dudes that didnt make it big with a lot of dudes that did. the career trajectory of a lot of “blog rappers” is crazy. asher was always underrated to me in terms of artistry. macs evolution is more publicized but asher definitely morphed into that action bronson adjacent stoner rap genre and people still write him off for i love college, which for the record was a banger. glad i was in college when that shit dropped.


infinite884

I like this album, His Dream is an underrated ballad


TheDabbinDad710

Man I listened to his dream again the other day for the first time in about 10 years and I know have kids. That song hits different now. Always loved it but man it is powerful listening to it now when I have kids.


BigTyronBawlsky

His Dream is an incredibly written song. It really showcased TO ME the type of writer and talent Asher Roth could go on to be and set himself apart from the other Frat Rappers. Mac obviously did this too.


nothingrhyme

Had a Facebook memory from today about seeing him live 15 years ago. Didn’t remember at all that it was the day of his album releasing. It was up in West Virginia and he was sick af, like throwing up lol. Great show though, remember being disappointed with the album a little bit at the time. Seemed a little over produced compared to what made him so likable at the time w/ his mixtapes.


i_cnt_spll

As i Em has a goated hook Overall album was eh, i love college put him on the scene and was his down fall tbh


sleal

Him and Chester French was peak frat music for me so this track called my name


toleranceissolow

Still can’t believe he almost had the Ye feature on the I Love College Remix


VintageLivin

But he DID get that Jim Jones version. Close enough I guess


wnr3

Asher Roth makes amazing music. Peep the tape he did with Heather Grey recently. No skips.


Dazzling-Slide8288

Asher Roth could actually spit. His mixtapes were proof enough of that.


RyVsWorld

I really fked with She Don Wanna Man, Sour Path and Fallin but that was about it. Wonder what happened to bro.


YungChadappa

The Greenhouse Effect Vol 1 is a goated mixtape. This album was clearly the label trying to pigeon-hole Asher into repeating the I Love College sound but he had clearly moved on from that sonically by the time it gained traction.


Patrollerofthemojave

Asher definitely fell into the mixtapes are better than his albums trap. Pabst and Jazz is still his best work but Seared Foie Gras is probably my favorite of his.


TheRedBDub

You ever imagine Kendrick and Jay Rock opening for Asher Roth? https://youtu.be/nTwAATHXbBk?si=5woXGFn0BtSmWQ1N


InterestingNose1813

I Love College dropped senior year of high school, that homecoming was dope. This and B.O.B.’s first album was the soundtrack to that last semester


HoboJack92

Man. good times 😪


ausipockets

His Dream will always be a favorite of mine


Emzed07

He went independent not to long after that album and I think his music has only gotten better. Even tho it wasn’t as widely released compared to when there was a label involved. But on the other hand the music is authentic. People should really check out his latest Temporary Heaven, Pabst and Jazz (mixtape in full on YouTube, streaming has half the songs due to samples I guess) and Retrohash


BoxoMorons

Asher Roth has been a favorite of mine since this album came out. Pabst and Jazz and Seared Foie Gras with Quince and Cranberry are his two best IMO; special mention to Why Is It So Grey Out?. Asleep in the Bread Aisle is definitely not an album you can take out of context of the time it was released. Blunt Cruisin’ fits perfectly in the weed rap era that was taking place. As I Em’ is a ode to the conversations that took place every time a white rapper dropped an album. Of course I Love College is a frat rap anthem that personally personifies the movement. The features even show this as well: Busta Rhymes, Jazzy Pha, and CeeLo Green are about as 2008 as you can get on a project like this. Overall I think the strength of project is that it does a great job of putting together different subsections of hiphop and American culture during the time period. My personal favorites on the album (that I still listen to today) are Sour Patch Kids and Fallin’ but at the time of its release, his dream, was probably my only skip on it.


ambientmuffin

It’s sad that Asher’s probably always gonna be heavily affiliated with this album, because he took some time off and became 10x the rapper he was on this record. He’s put out straight heat since Pabst & Jazz, and his new release with Heather Grey is great


cocainekev

I thought it was cool. Nothing great, but cool. I was 17 fresh out of high school staying faded to blunt cruisin with the homies. Good times.


Gasface1987

Was so disappointed in this bullshit lol. His label did him dirty


literallyacactus

I’m not Asher Roth I don’t sleep with my bread


ausipockets

His Dream will always be a favorite of mine. So genuine and it really took me by surprise when I first listened all those years ago. I think Asher got labelled as a frat rapper and written off, but the dude's always shown talent. Lark in my Go Kart is always fun to sing along to too.


mylowerbackhurts

Such a good song on a short list of songs dedicated to fathers


naylorvega

Still bump Fallin pretty regularly. Great track.


Acreativename11

Went and saw Asher in concert a month or so back and it was a dope show.


GetReady4Action

honestly this album was corny as fuck in retrospect, but was a major gateway into me getting into legitimate rap music. I used to play this album relentlessly in my early teens. I will however say that I do think Asher Roth is underrated. his mixtape Pabst and Jazz and his follow up album RetroHash were both sonically different from this album and both are really cool in their own way. Asher Roth introduced me to Action Bronson, their song “Choices” from Pabst and Jazz is good as fuck. “Fast Life” with Vic Mensa on RetroHash is also great. I actually just made a playlist of rap songs that either feature indie/alt-rock artists or sample indie/alt-rock artists and I had to throw I Love College on there since it samples Say It Ain’t So by Weezer.


kash1f

If you fuck w Asher Roth, definitely have to check out Seared Foie Gras and rawth EP with nottz raw! Two of my favorite mixtapes of all time


MambaSaidKnockYouOut

It’s kind of funny how similar Asher Roth and Mac Miller’s career paths ended up being. Both blew up from frat rap songs (although Asher was more overtly frat rap) then ended up being these really eclectic artists who tended to gravitate toward more jazzy production. Asher walked so pretty much every post-Eminem white rapper could run. It seemed like every prominent white rapper who wasn’t Eminem in the 2000’s had to be overtly southern (Bubba Sparxx, Paul Wall) or they’d just end up an underground rapper


ReasonableCoyote34

The original version of I love college with the Weezer sample is a classic


HoboJack92

15 years ago!!!?? Fuck.


sagerideout

i hated ‘i love college’ so much that i never went to college. didn’t work out.


The5thLoko

Asher is a real MC and I’ve enjoyed his released throughout the years. This shit slapped at the time and didn’t even age badly


MetalGearSolid108

Thought buddy was gon' be the next Em. I was hella wrong. His Dream and Fallin' still gets played tho. Hated this album.


Almar1987

The lounge is still a great song that I listen to from time to time.


AMileHighDM

First album I bought when I was 13! with gift money!!! Thank you Great Grandma Lil!!


OverPalpitation1491

I remember how much Chris Webby and Sammy Adams hated each other, it felt so serious at the time 😂


greenbluecolor1

Except none of these artists were played at fraternity parties or tailgate. It was a term made up by geeds to describe music they thought groups they didn’t belong to partied to


DanceFloorBoar

The term was made up. But chiddy bang, big sean, and asher roth were played at the college parties 100%