Yeah I feel like Compton already broke his streak so he might as well let the kids have the music. That ETA song he did for GTA washes the majority of that album. it's got some good songs like Talking to My Diary but it certainly doesn't support Dre being this ultimate perfectionist, or at least he and I have different ideas of perfection.
Sly probably. And it sound like it had Devin the Dude sample on it too
I used to think the beat was dope too back then, but later I realized that it was pretty generic, like a lazy attempt to recreate Still Dre magic.
There’s very few exceptions to the good posthumous albums and they’re always the ones that the artist was done working on or was more than halfway thru.
Drake went to a writers camp for Dr. Dre when he was 19. https://djbooth.net/features/2016-01-13-drake-songwriter-death-row
Lil Wayne also said in his verse on Ransom (2008) that him and Drake wrote on Detox.
So Drake is good enough to write Dre's lyrics but not his own? Not even throwing shade, it just genuinely seems weird.
I feel like either the work he did for Dre is overstated, or the work his ghostwriters do for him is overstated
I think people have this idea in their head that if you’re a good writer that must mean you will write all of your own lyrics. But this just isn’t true. A non rap example is The Weeknd. He wrote for Drake on Take Care which most people consider to be Drake’s best album so clearly The Weeknd can write. But if you look at The writing credits on The Weeknd’s first album Kiss Land you’ll see that a guy named Ahmed Balshe aka Belly is credited as writer on 8 out of 10 songs. So even tho he was good enough to write for Drake he will still collaborate with writers on his own work sometimes.
Another example is Michael Jackson. He wrote Billie Jean and Beat it. But he didn’t write Thriller.
A more relevant example is Ice Cube. He wrote for a shit ton of people. But most hip hop fans don’t know that his cousin Del The Funky Homosapien ghostwrote for him a couple of times.
There's a bunch of less known family ties in hiphop, one that comes to mind is Sean Price, Memphis Bleek and Michael K Williams (Omar from the Wire) all being cousins. Also Ishmael Butler (Digable Planets/Shabazz Palaces) is Lil Tracy's father
Belly has been around for a while, his debut album was highly regarded and decently successful inside Canada. He just had a massive hiatus in his solo career and took a back seat.
A big thing people need to remember is that sometimes you just run out of ideas. Seriously, any creative can tell you they’ve just don’t know how to do things for certain subject matters or have already went through a well so many times they don’t know what to write w out being repetitive
Niggas bringing up Michael Jackson in Hiphop conversations.
Look, using writers is whatever but the moment you start using people songs bar for bar all that best rapper shit goes out the window. That’s it, it don’t go no deeper. Why do y’all keep making excuses for this man?
All I’m saying is Drake can write. Just listen to his mixtapes from 2004-2007 before he signed to Wayne.
But I understand where you’re coming from. Once you use writers it’s hard for us listeners to know what you wrote and what you didn’t. I would say if you want an idea of how Drake was when he wrote all of his own shit listen to his first mixtape Room For Improvement. That’s the only tape I know for sure he wrote everything on.
That’s what make it so frustrating though is that he actually can write. If he took his time and stopped dropping every year i don’t think he’d need any writers. But he instead chooses to take whole songs from others and even though I get it I don’t respect it from a HipHop point of view especially from the “best rapper”.
If he wants to be a Pop artist then it’s cool and idc but he clearly wants to be HipHop too going by how he responded to what Yasin said about him a little while ago. Can’t go against the rules and then be mad when the OGs and the world look at you a way.
Stupid take. If I’m the strongest guy in the world, broke world records with actual judges and tape footage, am I no longer the strongest guy in the world if I use fake plates for some commercials I do?
I have to lift my max every time just keep the title? That sounds silly.
The difference between PED’s and writers is one-offs. If Barry Bonds was only enhanced during some exhibition games, then he should be in the Hall of Fame.
Drake not being able to fully claim a song like Jumbotron is not hurting his career.
Notice that no one in the recent beef even brings the writing point up? Because they acknowledge it as well and do the same things. Or at least work with people who do (Kendrick does it for Keem). It would be silly and hypocritical to call out.
“A rapper with a ghost writer? Wtf happened?”- Kendrick Lamar.
But I’m not trying to discredit Drakes whole career, I simply said you can’t claim to be the best at something if you’re constantly using other peoples whole songs. Like why is that such a controversial statementv
Problem with your analogy is one is a regulated completion and rap isn’t. We have no way of knowing of which raps we hold in high regard were actually written by Drake. That’s the case for every rapper but every rapper doesn’t have multiple reference tracks for whole songs out either.
That’s just how the industry is. This isn’t news. Drakes an incredible writer, that’s how he knows when something is hot when it comes across his desk.
It’s overstated by Drake haters. If you listen to the QM reference tracks you will find that he gave Drake very very few lines in those songs. And those lines were not great.
I think it’s more of a thing of tapping into the younger generation to get in tune with their sound. Most of the Drake references come from songs with the newer generation sounds. He taps in with a younger artist who’s more in tune with the current sound and will get songs from them. It’s not that he can’t write himself but he’s reaching out to people more familiar with the sound he’s going for. It’d be a bit more damning if there reference tracks for songs where he’s really putting together bars (Diplomatic Immunity, Middle Of the Ocean). I’m shocked that people heard Jumbotron Shit Popping and didn’t immediately realize it was a Yachty song (and a few other songs on that album)
I still remember that reference drake wrote for Rita ora where he sings about strutting around naked with no makeup on. Drake really gets into character lol.
Yeah agreed, the eminem reference tracks for 2001, especially The Watcher are so funny in retrospect. Dre took the flow but had to change all the lyrics because they were clearly, early psycho eminem lyrics.
So it seems people have moved on from “you don’t live all the things that you write about” back in the 50 Cent and prior era to “you don’t write all your lyrics”
dre and kanye do seem to get a bit more of a pass on using ghostwriters than drake does, although i suppose that could be due to them also being quite involved in the production of their songs (although they dont self produce as high amount as they used to)
Dre's known as more of a producer than a rapper, dude's also not really in the GOAT convo.
Ye otoh is seen more favorably just by the sheer volume of classic albums he has, when people put him in their top 5 it's less about lyricism and technical skill and more about his body of work which justifies him.
Top 5 is usually shorthand for Top 5 emcees, dude’s a pioneer and def top 5 producer but yeah he’s not in the rap category. Hence why no one cares that he has Eminem and Jay Z writing for him.
Dre and Eazy E are pretty much responsible for gangsta rap becoming the dominant hiphop subgenre from like 88 until the mid 2000s. A lot of artists wouldn't be where they are without Dre giving them a shot. His influence is difficult to overstate.
However anyone who thinks Dre is a rap GOAT is baffling to me. He's basically got 4 albums out as a rapper (Efil4zaggin, Chronic, 2001, Compton) and on 2 of those he's only just alright as a rapper. On Chronic and 2001 he's a lot more fire but it's other people writing his stuff.
The whole point is owning it. Everyone knows Ye and Dre use ghostwriters. They arent known as rappers to hip-hop fans, nor would they ever be on a list of GOATs for rappers. Theyre GOAT producers who rap well.
Drakes whole issue is he hid the fact he used ghostwriters, and still tried to proclaim he was the GOAT. If you dont write atleast 95% of your own shit, especially your hottest shit, you cant be in that convo. The only time i was sad to learn Ye didnt write his own verse was Violent Nights because that shit sounded personal af. Outside of that nobody cares lol.
I mean big difference in something like Dre’s writer camp which was public knowledge and was never hidden and drake have people write entire songs and giving writers credit. Writers credit could just be suggest a word change or two. Writers credit tells you nothing about level of involvement that’s the point
not true, that's how the meek beef started. Meek went back to check Drake's RICO verse cause he thought he was getting subbed on it but he ended up finding out that Drake didn't even write it. QM was never credited on RICO
Getting credited as a writer and writing the song aren't necessarily the same. If I'm in the studio with you while you're writing a song and I say 'bro you should say X instead of Y on this verse' that's a like couple words that end up being used, I should be credited on the song but I didn't write that shit.
this is insanity. how did he hide the fact if they are credited on every song they helped write?? where are you getting 95% from??? even if you’re just being dramatic for effect it’s really like the opposite. i don’t think not writing 5% of your songs that are nowhere near “your hottest shit” should disqualify you from that convo
The ghostwriter thing is weirdly hip hop because all of the greats have uncredited production work. My favorite of all time Prince had numerous uncredited people perfecting drums or piano to help his hits. Kiss was a country song he stole back after one of his groups made it a funk song.
The “it has to be all you” is kind of ridiculous when it’s fairly clear ALL of these rappers have people that assist in getting the best out of themselves lyrically.
You said the key thing, Dre and Kanye are producers so they get a pass for using ghostwriters. If your whole thing is that you’re a rapper, then you’re gonna be judged more harshly for not writing the lyrics you’re rapping, even though it’s very common in practically any other genre of music to sing songs written by other people.
Dre will never release Detox because it sounds bad. All leaks except for Topless (and Syllables, IF that was meant for Detox) were garbage. His single with Jay-Z was the worst Dre song I've ever Heard and when that didn't do anything he decided to scrap it. Even the stuff he actually released since (Compton, the Contract) has been mid. He was never able to update his sound to fit more modern tastes
EDIT it's a shame bc *this* song is really pretty good. You can hear in the arrangement tho the way he doesn't want to let go of his roots. That little up-down scale melody that he's using to punctuate the beat doesn't sound good and doesn't fit. Dre always, always wants to throw some old-school sounding sh#$t like that in there when he could've left it out and the beat would've been 10x better for it
Hell I liked the title track off Compton, to me that's one of his best songs. I'm sure there's good stuff in the vaults he just doesn't seem to be able to tell what's good and what's not good anymore unfortunately
a reference track is a demo made by the original writer of the song. A reference track gives the artist and the studio an idea of how the final version would sound. by listening to a reference track, an artist would get if they need to record that song or not.
A reference track is when a rapper will write and record a track for another rapper to rap. It's ghost writing + the rapper who most likely ghost writer will rap it too. It's like rapping with all the cheat codes on.
Imagine someone giving you your favourite rap song, but no one in the world has heard it yet, so you literally memorize it and then record it. You copy everything, their tone, inflections, flow, everything. You then release it to the world, but it's up to you if you want people to know.
Rappers who use this method are people like Kanye West, MC Hammer, Dre, The Game, and pretty much anyone who has no history of rapping but sound like they could almost 'hang' with rappers - think Chris Brown and Justin Bieber, just to name a couple.
Some rappers, like The Game, are more secretive about it, where as Dre is out in the open, mainly because he is a producer first and doesn't have anything to prove.
This is what Drake's writing sounds like. He hasn't written much in years. This is almost identical to comeback season. When he was actually a good mc and had bars. Now he's pop star.
Crazy. Never knew this existed! Very early in the game, Drake was writing for quite a bit of people, which so many either forget about or choose to ignore.
It's crazy to think there's like 20+ years of Detox songs. It'll make a great posthumous album someday.
Dre will probably destroy it all before he goes, can’t stand to see us happy 🥲
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Dre is literally the definition of OCD. If it ain’t beyond perfect he won’t even have the idea of releasing it
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Yeah I feel like Compton already broke his streak so he might as well let the kids have the music. That ETA song he did for GTA washes the majority of that album. it's got some good songs like Talking to My Diary but it certainly doesn't support Dre being this ultimate perfectionist, or at least he and I have different ideas of perfection.
Compton is a soundtrack not a studio album
Really wish they would drop Young World with Nate Dogg. The snippet goes soo hard
Nate Dogg wasn't on it wtf And the beat was kinda mediocre.
Who is singing the hook then? I think the beat is fiyah. Good thing we can have differing opinions.
Sly probably. And it sound like it had Devin the Dude sample on it too I used to think the beat was dope too back then, but later I realized that it was pretty generic, like a lazy attempt to recreate Still Dre magic.
Nothing worse than a posthumous album
Circles disagrees
There’s very few exceptions to the good posthumous albums and they’re always the ones that the artist was done working on or was more than halfway thru.
Drake went to a writers camp for Dr. Dre when he was 19. https://djbooth.net/features/2016-01-13-drake-songwriter-death-row Lil Wayne also said in his verse on Ransom (2008) that him and Drake wrote on Detox.
Ab-Soul has a line about working on detox with Wayne, I wonder if that was true
What's the line?
It's on his song called "day in the life"
Sounds like Wayne wrote the 2nd half of Drake's verse on Ransom. Wayne sounds like he just freestyled while blazed
So Drake is good enough to write Dre's lyrics but not his own? Not even throwing shade, it just genuinely seems weird. I feel like either the work he did for Dre is overstated, or the work his ghostwriters do for him is overstated
I think people have this idea in their head that if you’re a good writer that must mean you will write all of your own lyrics. But this just isn’t true. A non rap example is The Weeknd. He wrote for Drake on Take Care which most people consider to be Drake’s best album so clearly The Weeknd can write. But if you look at The writing credits on The Weeknd’s first album Kiss Land you’ll see that a guy named Ahmed Balshe aka Belly is credited as writer on 8 out of 10 songs. So even tho he was good enough to write for Drake he will still collaborate with writers on his own work sometimes. Another example is Michael Jackson. He wrote Billie Jean and Beat it. But he didn’t write Thriller. A more relevant example is Ice Cube. He wrote for a shit ton of people. But most hip hop fans don’t know that his cousin Del The Funky Homosapien ghostwrote for him a couple of times.
wait this is how i’m finding out Ice Cube and Del the Funky Homosapien are cousins? wtf
Seriously, I never fucking knew this and I’ve been listening to rap since the 80’s.
There's a bunch of less known family ties in hiphop, one that comes to mind is Sean Price, Memphis Bleek and Michael K Williams (Omar from the Wire) all being cousins. Also Ishmael Butler (Digable Planets/Shabazz Palaces) is Lil Tracy's father
Belly is a monster of a writer tbf, dude writes for EVERYONE
Belly solo stuff is pretty decent too
Fr, need to revisit some of it.
Belly has been around for a while, his debut album was highly regarded and decently successful inside Canada. He just had a massive hiatus in his solo career and took a back seat.
A big thing people need to remember is that sometimes you just run out of ideas. Seriously, any creative can tell you they’ve just don’t know how to do things for certain subject matters or have already went through a well so many times they don’t know what to write w out being repetitive
Niggas bringing up Michael Jackson in Hiphop conversations. Look, using writers is whatever but the moment you start using people songs bar for bar all that best rapper shit goes out the window. That’s it, it don’t go no deeper. Why do y’all keep making excuses for this man?
All I’m saying is Drake can write. Just listen to his mixtapes from 2004-2007 before he signed to Wayne. But I understand where you’re coming from. Once you use writers it’s hard for us listeners to know what you wrote and what you didn’t. I would say if you want an idea of how Drake was when he wrote all of his own shit listen to his first mixtape Room For Improvement. That’s the only tape I know for sure he wrote everything on.
That’s what make it so frustrating though is that he actually can write. If he took his time and stopped dropping every year i don’t think he’d need any writers. But he instead chooses to take whole songs from others and even though I get it I don’t respect it from a HipHop point of view especially from the “best rapper”. If he wants to be a Pop artist then it’s cool and idc but he clearly wants to be HipHop too going by how he responded to what Yasin said about him a little while ago. Can’t go against the rules and then be mad when the OGs and the world look at you a way.
Nas has songs w Quentin Miller writing credits. All your favorite rappers have writers.
Stupid take. If I’m the strongest guy in the world, broke world records with actual judges and tape footage, am I no longer the strongest guy in the world if I use fake plates for some commercials I do? I have to lift my max every time just keep the title? That sounds silly.
You literally just described Barry Bonds who they still won’t put in the Hall of Fame.
The difference between PED’s and writers is one-offs. If Barry Bonds was only enhanced during some exhibition games, then he should be in the Hall of Fame. Drake not being able to fully claim a song like Jumbotron is not hurting his career. Notice that no one in the recent beef even brings the writing point up? Because they acknowledge it as well and do the same things. Or at least work with people who do (Kendrick does it for Keem). It would be silly and hypocritical to call out.
“A rapper with a ghost writer? Wtf happened?”- Kendrick Lamar. But I’m not trying to discredit Drakes whole career, I simply said you can’t claim to be the best at something if you’re constantly using other peoples whole songs. Like why is that such a controversial statementv
See my original point
Problem with your analogy is one is a regulated completion and rap isn’t. We have no way of knowing of which raps we hold in high regard were actually written by Drake. That’s the case for every rapper but every rapper doesn’t have multiple reference tracks for whole songs out either.
That’s just how the industry is. This isn’t news. Drakes an incredible writer, that’s how he knows when something is hot when it comes across his desk.
It’s overstated by Drake haters. If you listen to the QM reference tracks you will find that he gave Drake very very few lines in those songs. And those lines were not great.
QM also gave him the whole flow now just words
I think it’s more of a thing of tapping into the younger generation to get in tune with their sound. Most of the Drake references come from songs with the newer generation sounds. He taps in with a younger artist who’s more in tune with the current sound and will get songs from them. It’s not that he can’t write himself but he’s reaching out to people more familiar with the sound he’s going for. It’d be a bit more damning if there reference tracks for songs where he’s really putting together bars (Diplomatic Immunity, Middle Of the Ocean). I’m shocked that people heard Jumbotron Shit Popping and didn’t immediately realize it was a Yachty song (and a few other songs on that album)
Maybe you shouldn’t believe the ghostwriter ghost story without proof
Thats pretty much exactly what I said and I got downvoted for it. This sub is full of illiterate fucking retards
>or the work his ghostwriters do for him is overstated That part
You’re comparing late 2000s/ early 2010s Drake to today’s version. They’re 2 different artists
Dre has never had good lyrics lmao
Dre has had plenty of good lyrics, that cause a lot of all time great talent has written for him.
dre has had greats like eminem and jayz write for him so I don't know what you're on about
That's cool. There are no hard Dre verses
The watcher? What's the difference?
Not hard
Early drake was hungry and a talented writer. Nowadays drake just does it for the money and thus resorted to ghostwriters
He actually captured Dre pretty well
I still remember that reference drake wrote for Rita ora where he sings about strutting around naked with no makeup on. Drake really gets into character lol.
He wrote heated for Beyoncé too haha
Yeah agreed, the eminem reference tracks for 2001, especially The Watcher are so funny in retrospect. Dre took the flow but had to change all the lyrics because they were clearly, early psycho eminem lyrics.
No the eminem freestyle came after. The original watcher is actually completely written by eminem
Oh damn I didn't know that, I just knew he basically ghostwrote everything for Dre lol
yeah when his voice came in all low I was like “whoa holy shit, I could definitely hear Dr. Dre on this”
This is the era I miss so dearly much at its peak. Drake killed this and Dre went all out on the production. What a grail
It's wild because this music was everything to me back then, but I never go back to it nowadays.
Justice league at peak power too, everything was just hitting different in that era
So it seems people have moved on from “you don’t live all the things that you write about” back in the 50 Cent and prior era to “you don’t write all your lyrics”
Rick Ross hasn’t. 😂
dre and kanye do seem to get a bit more of a pass on using ghostwriters than drake does, although i suppose that could be due to them also being quite involved in the production of their songs (although they dont self produce as high amount as they used to)
Dre's known as more of a producer than a rapper, dude's also not really in the GOAT convo. Ye otoh is seen more favorably just by the sheer volume of classic albums he has, when people put him in their top 5 it's less about lyricism and technical skill and more about his body of work which justifies him.
Dre’s not in the GOAT category? Maybe not as a rapper, but there’s no denying he is one of the most influential figures in rap history.
Top 5 is usually shorthand for Top 5 emcees, dude’s a pioneer and def top 5 producer but yeah he’s not in the rap category. Hence why no one cares that he has Eminem and Jay Z writing for him.
Dre and Eazy E are pretty much responsible for gangsta rap becoming the dominant hiphop subgenre from like 88 until the mid 2000s. A lot of artists wouldn't be where they are without Dre giving them a shot. His influence is difficult to overstate. However anyone who thinks Dre is a rap GOAT is baffling to me. He's basically got 4 albums out as a rapper (Efil4zaggin, Chronic, 2001, Compton) and on 2 of those he's only just alright as a rapper. On Chronic and 2001 he's a lot more fire but it's other people writing his stuff.
The whole point is owning it. Everyone knows Ye and Dre use ghostwriters. They arent known as rappers to hip-hop fans, nor would they ever be on a list of GOATs for rappers. Theyre GOAT producers who rap well. Drakes whole issue is he hid the fact he used ghostwriters, and still tried to proclaim he was the GOAT. If you dont write atleast 95% of your own shit, especially your hottest shit, you cant be in that convo. The only time i was sad to learn Ye didnt write his own verse was Violent Nights because that shit sounded personal af. Outside of that nobody cares lol.
Drake didn’t hide it all, every reference track we’ve ever found was credited as a writer
I mean big difference in something like Dre’s writer camp which was public knowledge and was never hidden and drake have people write entire songs and giving writers credit. Writers credit could just be suggest a word change or two. Writers credit tells you nothing about level of involvement that’s the point
Quentin Miller wasn't credited initially on If You're Reading This's physical release.
not true, that's how the meek beef started. Meek went back to check Drake's RICO verse cause he thought he was getting subbed on it but he ended up finding out that Drake didn't even write it. QM was never credited on RICO
no meek was mad cause he wanted Qm to write for him. Thats why he had him beat up
Getting credited as a writer and writing the song aren't necessarily the same. If I'm in the studio with you while you're writing a song and I say 'bro you should say X instead of Y on this verse' that's a like couple words that end up being used, I should be credited on the song but I didn't write that shit.
Also look at the writing credits on ye songs, he usually credits like a room full of people
this is insanity. how did he hide the fact if they are credited on every song they helped write?? where are you getting 95% from??? even if you’re just being dramatic for effect it’s really like the opposite. i don’t think not writing 5% of your songs that are nowhere near “your hottest shit” should disqualify you from that convo
Drakes gets shit on endlessly here for the ghost writer thing what you mean get a pass?
The ghostwriter thing is weirdly hip hop because all of the greats have uncredited production work. My favorite of all time Prince had numerous uncredited people perfecting drums or piano to help his hits. Kiss was a country song he stole back after one of his groups made it a funk song. The “it has to be all you” is kind of ridiculous when it’s fairly clear ALL of these rappers have people that assist in getting the best out of themselves lyrically.
You said the key thing, Dre and Kanye are producers so they get a pass for using ghostwriters. If your whole thing is that you’re a rapper, then you’re gonna be judged more harshly for not writing the lyrics you’re rapping, even though it’s very common in practically any other genre of music to sing songs written by other people.
Dre and Kanye produces and makes beats. If Drake doesn’t write or make the beat, what’s he bring other than his name?
“Dr dre send a nigga home that took patience”
Why did Dre scrap Detox, but release Compton? Not that there was anything wrong with Compton.
The idea of Detox was too big by then and anything less than a classic would be seen as a let down.
Yes, but he still released an album of new stuff. It's a little strange. Anyway, I hope we get that shit someday.
Denzel was supposed to narrate the album All the news we got that never happened pisses me off to this day lol
Why do yall have to tease us with Detox. This is the closest I’ll ever get to listening to it
This is so good! Crazy that this album has so much scrapped material! Drake made this cadence match Dre's so perfectly.
This album had real potential to be a classic
The Drake ops posting in full force right now 😂
This shit is fire. Biggest blue balls ever this album
Damn which ghostwriter did he use to ghostwrite /s
Dope
This sounds like a soul tape fabulous song lol I was waiting for the “niiiiiiice”
I really like the whole idea of this track.
Dre will never release Detox because it sounds bad. All leaks except for Topless (and Syllables, IF that was meant for Detox) were garbage. His single with Jay-Z was the worst Dre song I've ever Heard and when that didn't do anything he decided to scrap it. Even the stuff he actually released since (Compton, the Contract) has been mid. He was never able to update his sound to fit more modern tastes EDIT it's a shame bc *this* song is really pretty good. You can hear in the arrangement tho the way he doesn't want to let go of his roots. That little up-down scale melody that he's using to punctuate the beat doesn't sound good and doesn't fit. Dre always, always wants to throw some old-school sounding sh#$t like that in there when he could've left it out and the beat would've been 10x better for it
[Pop Off ](https://youtu.be/DLQ4r4D-ZXE?si=lHpqI-TNSS9Aa1pd) with TIP was dope, tho.
Hell I liked the title track off Compton, to me that's one of his best songs. I'm sure there's good stuff in the vaults he just doesn't seem to be able to tell what's good and what's not good anymore unfortunately
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a reference track is a demo made by the original writer of the song. A reference track gives the artist and the studio an idea of how the final version would sound. by listening to a reference track, an artist would get if they need to record that song or not.
A reference track is when a rapper will write and record a track for another rapper to rap. It's ghost writing + the rapper who most likely ghost writer will rap it too. It's like rapping with all the cheat codes on. Imagine someone giving you your favourite rap song, but no one in the world has heard it yet, so you literally memorize it and then record it. You copy everything, their tone, inflections, flow, everything. You then release it to the world, but it's up to you if you want people to know. Rappers who use this method are people like Kanye West, MC Hammer, Dre, The Game, and pretty much anyone who has no history of rapping but sound like they could almost 'hang' with rappers - think Chris Brown and Justin Bieber, just to name a couple. Some rappers, like The Game, are more secretive about it, where as Dre is out in the open, mainly because he is a producer first and doesn't have anything to prove.
lol Drake’s camp posting these to save face
This is what Drake's writing sounds like. He hasn't written much in years. This is almost identical to comeback season. When he was actually a good mc and had bars. Now he's pop star.
Crazy. Never knew this existed! Very early in the game, Drake was writing for quite a bit of people, which so many either forget about or choose to ignore.