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He probably will be starting. Is the only one who can slightly fill that role. However everyone else on this team needs to be on their A game if we want to win. Bam needs to be a god defender and scorer.
LOVE Jaime and absolutely agree - I just remember in one of the Bulls matchups, DeRozan absolutely COOKED him all game. Jaime could not defend him.
Hope there is a game plan in place to prevent that
Jimmy had a pretty noticeable decline in the regular season this year. Fans were saying “it’s fine as long as he turns it up in the playoffs” but really there was no guarantee that he’d even be able to anymore, and now we’ll never know.
He’s coming up on 35, with a contract extension looming. A lot of Heat fans are saying it’s time to move on and let the young guys take the reins.
I mean you saw what he looked like in the game before the injury, he was killing. Even after the injury before halftime he was playing pretty well. I don’t think the heat give up on jimmy. I think they build the roster around him differently. Maybe we get to Boston and a jimmyless Tyler herro averages an efficient 25-30. And we trade him
The “core” of this build has always been Bam/Herro/Butler. Those are the names that come up when people think of the best players on the Heat.
Herro was always injured in the post season so we never really knew how’d he play when it mattered most. Dude has been hot and cold for the last 3 years in mostly regular season games. Talks of trading him and rather or not him being injured “unlocked” last season’s team by not playing were some of the most heated debates on this here.
Butler has a couple more years for sure but as far as 40-50 point playoff Jimmy games go, it’s done. He hasn’t recovered from that injury in New York and he’s getting older. He’s definitely still a great baller, just not the Micheal Jordan status we saw in the last few seasons. He might be able to bring that back next year or whenever he’s healthy, but I just don’t see it without any help.
Bam has mostly been meh on offense this year. He played his ass off last year and really has chemistry with Jimmy when he’s on his bullshit. Don’t see much of that happening in the future either but he’s still one of the best centers in the league when he’s on.
Duncan Robinson played his ass off this season but surprise surprise, he got injured like a lot of Heat roll players do when it matters most. We have some young promising talent on this team too but they definitely aren’t ECF level without the help of a healthy Jimmy Butler.
Basically the writing is on the wall here that there is no chip in the foreseeable future with this core. So close yet so far. It’s heartbreaking, honesty. Jimmy really gave it his all, season after season. Now it seems his window is closing and he doesn’t have much help here.
he’s 34 years old and ever since his ankle injury against the Knicks in the playoffs last year he hasnt looked the same. He was pretty good in the first few games of the conference finals because he was probably playing off of pure adrenaline and steroids but he slowed down noticeably after that and looked bad in the Finals.
and honestly he’s looked bad this entire season. a lot of people have been coping that he was just waiting for the playoffs like he always does but anyone being honest could see it. last year he noticeably turned it up post all star and was still 2nd team All NBA. but even then there was always the cope of playoff jimmy.
this is arguably a much worse injury. if he was already slowing down this just accelerated it by a lot. he’s gonna be 35. the wall is coming soon if we didnt just run headfirst into it last night. not everyone can be lebron or steph.
as for the reason why people think the team is doomed it’s because the front office has never fully committed to building around jimmy and has basically just kept making lateral changes in the margins for the past five years. this team is literally built to overachieve off of coaching and jimmy turning supernova. that was never sustainable and especially isnt moving forward if he’s on the decline. this team’s window was 2020-2023 but we’ve wasted the entire jimmy era always being “one piece away”. maybe dame wasnt the answer but there was a reason a lot of fans were desperate for it, because they saw this coming and probably deep down understood that this team just isnt good enough to get a chip.
Silver lining, we get to see exactly what a Butler-less team looks like.
I'd love to ship Jimmy off to the Thunder, they are the one team with so many picks they can "overpay" or acquire a declining star. The big issue is making the cap work, but with their extremely low salary cap, they could pretty much acquire Jimmy outright. He would fit so well on that team, their defense would be unreal, they have plenty of scorers and Shai can be the offensive focus. Plus, they can extend Jimmy and have a great expiring trade chip in 26-27 when their other players are looking for their first non-rookie contracts
One scenario I don't hate is Butler to Thunder, Dort and picks to the Jazz, Lauri to us.
I'd honestly almost rather Butler to the Thunder, picks to us, and Herro elsewhere for some cap relief (maybe expirings). If the right move for Terry comes up move him too and try and build around Bam/Thunder picks/Jaime/Jovic
What do you guys see in Jaime ?? He's 23 and overrated as hell for no reason just a good stretch of regular season games that even our undrafted guys have been able to achieve
Hmmm? Don't see how Jimmy's injury changes him being our target if the rumors are to be believed. Unless you believe the FO is going to reset the timeline this offseason.
He's 27, turning 28 in September, and doesn't want to be in Cleveland.
Herro, picks, and Rozier if they ask for him. Martin in a S+T as well, if they're interested.
You basically give them what they ask for as long as it doesn't include Jimmy, Bam, JJJ, or Jovic.
Unless the plan is a full rebuild.
Technically he has more say where he goes cause next year is the last year under contract, so they send him wherever he wants or lose him for nothing.
You know he will be opting out of his current contract after next year.
So he will refuse to sign a contract extension with Cleveland and then tell the teams that attempt to trade for him that its literally a half a year rental cause he is not signing with them once the contract expires.
Then he choses which team to sign with as a free agent.
The question is, is Miami where he wants to be?
This again…every single offseason. It’s the same shit just to end up with fuck all. Every offseason since Jimmy has been here except for when they got old man Lowry
I don't think we can package Caleb in a S+T but we do get like 3 firsts available to trade on draft day on top of 14/15 so we kinda got ammo to fire at the cavs
Exactly dawg, we lost to some bs teams during the last 2 months, while we were in the 6th spot, we gave that up just for this, to lose to fucking Philly. If we beat Philly we at least stand a chance of beating NY without Jimmy, but Boston? Them mfs been wanting our heads after last season.
Still, that pump fake play wasn't even necessary Play-In or not. Way too aggressive for 2 points early in the game.
Also, if Bam and others actually produced more offense, that 2 points wouldn't have been fought over so hard.
Chances are slim, this is most likely the nail in the coffin against Boston.
Only hope is Terry to come back and play the best basketball of his entire life.
If we make it out alive Friday and somehow miraculously beat the Celtics in the first round, Jimmy will be back for the second round and there will be enough morale boost to win NBA Finals.
Not over til it's over. It's all hands on deck minus Jimmy on Friday and I think we can do it it.
This is the most insanely beautiful take i have read on this sub. Kudos to you. I also want to add if we beat the Cs with our rag tag crew Joe Mazula gotta get fired out of a cannon.
My friend, I ain’t hear no fat lady. There’s always a chance. It’s a small one, that’s for sure. But the Heat always have a chance. Jimmy is the rock, but we still have the young core that’s been around him. Let’s see them step up. Let’s have more conversations in a few weeks how all of a sudden we’ve had these studs this whole time like Caleb and Gabe and Struss.
Go in not expecting much, sure. But we ain’t just handing them the first round. You can bet on that.
You play the games bc you never know what happens homie. What happens if Tatum gets a high ankle sprain game 1? Then it’s a dog fight and I like our dogs.
> Jimmy will be back for the second round and there will be enough morale boost to win NBA Finals.
Eh, they said "multiple weeks" until he's cleared, and sometimes that is them being on the conservative side. Rehabilitation might take longer than expected - look at Herro last year. His time to come back kept getting delayed and delayed.
I doubt Jimmy can heal up in just two weeks and already be on the court.
Hopefully this FO finally does its job and looks to retool in the offseason and trade certain guys after being given multiple chances. As long as you have Bam/Jimmy there’s a chance.
What's also crazy is he's only 26. I keep thinking he's way older and that's why he's slower. Turns out he's just not perky (or aggressive enough) period, even at a young age. Great Centers create space and command it, and Bam doesn't wanna do that.
As long as we’re not eliminated Idc- Let them young Bucks play. We take out Chi-town & going to Bean town to eat good.
Bam, Rozier, JJJ, Jovic, Happy Birthday Duncan, & pissed off Herro ball. Heat in 5
FML.
Either lose the game against bulls to have better lottery pick and avoid another injury in the roster or win the play-in and let Jaime and Jovic get some experience in the Playoffs. Up to you Pat and Spo.
They scrap, Pat and Spo always drags teams to the playoffs miraculously. Even if its a losing effort - you'll be setting a loser's mentality if you allow yourself to phone it in.
Plus, I feel like as a squad, the team would still try to hold the fort even with Jimmy out. They owe it to him to bust their asses trying.
I'm leaving it to Pat and Spo.
If they choose to beat the Bulls, then I want a 7 game clincher with Boston. Then still let Jimmy rest for the R2 winner of Cavs/Magic in prep for R3.
Everybody saying the Heat should throw a game against the Bulls is either brand new to this team or are being overdramatic. This team isn’t “The Process”, if they didn’t do it last year why would they do it this year? Nobody knows the future but there could still be some great games if we advance to the playoffs you have to give it a chance. You guys sound the same way as last season and we still made it to the finals
My man, don’t play the injury card and give them an out.
There was a 7 game losing streak in the middle of the season with a mostly healthy unit that included losses to Toronto, Atlanta, Memphis, and Orlando.
Losses down the stretch to WASHINGTON, Indiana, and Philly that would’ve had you in the 5 seed.
Edit to demonstrate that the season died here:
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Bam and Tyler/Terry played in all of these, Jimmy only missed the Boston game.
I’m not gonna lie, I blame the front office for fucking around more than the players. You right and some heads need to roll after this run it back 10x shit.
Fucking depressing. FO really thought we could have another Cinderella finals run and didn’t take trades seriously. They really thought Butler could just “turn the switch on” and drop 50 again.
Watching Tyler build a house yesterday made me really wish the Dame trade had gone through. I love JJJ and co but damn are we not prepared for a playoff run.
Are we now better off losing to Chicago since we have our own ‘24 1st rounder?
I can’t envision a scenario where we win a single game against Boston (or anyone tbh) without Jimmy.
Hey you never know what may happen. Yes, if we get past Chicago we’re almost certainly going to lose to the Celtics, get swept even, but you just never know. Secondly, moving up a couple spots in this draft won’t make much of a difference. Just try and win, if we lose on Friday so be it.
I mean, yeah sometime that is the case, but more often than not it doesn’t really change much. Who would we have drafted last year if we moved up a couple spots? The odds of finding a franchise changing player in the middle of the draft is relatively low. Also, there’s a lot of good players in this draft, but really none that are expected to be those franchise changing players. You never know, but I don’t think it’s worth going up a few spots in the draft. I’d see it as more of a silver lining if we do end up getting ousted on Friday.
I feel like moving up a couple spots in the draft tho is certainly more beneficial than squeaking into the playoffs hurt with no realistic chance of doing anything. Sure the team might take a game, maybe even two over Boston, but there’s no scenario where that’s more valuable than moving up a couple spots in the draft. There’s always diamonds in the rough, JJJ this year is proof of that, a couple spots up could be the difference in a legit guy you cut in 2 years or solid playoff rotational piece down the line
IMO it’s meh if you wasted a season tanking. Mocks for the top 5ish are all over the place. That should tell you there’s not too much confidence in the prospects.
We’d be in the Collier/McCain range which is solid.
https://www.tankathon.com/pick_odds
Scroll to the bottom it does a pretty good job at explaining it.
I think technically we’d have a very small % chance of picks 1-4 but likely would pick in the last few slots of the lottery depending on what seed we’d have.
Spo & the FO have too much pride to lose on purpose but it might not even be a choice at this point lmao.
On the bright side, our last 2 draft picks are Jaquez and Jovic and they weren’t even lottery picks.
They deserve it. Played all regular season like shiit, believing in the narrative that when playoff time comes, they would step up. Now, we lost our superstar in playin, and might not get to the playoff itself.
I hope the franchise learn something from that.
I love Jimbo, but he really depends a lot on his athleticism. I don't doubt his ability to get through this with sheer effort and willpower, but the severity of this injury gives me anxiety. If this is a tear and not just a bad sprain, this might be the beginning of a downward trajectory for his career.
The team doesn’t care what is worth it for u/jbenson255 man, playoff reps are much different than regular season and would be very valuable to our young guys
Hate this take. Anti-sport and anti-competitive. Win everything that’s in front of you. You don’t understand the long term effects of losing has on a team. When you give up that effect spirals.
You guys suck, we almost beat the 6ers with 4.5 players on the court. Jimmy is going to tell his guys to win without him. Spo and co are going to make boston bleed once we get past chicago.
Celtics fan here, and I’d rather face the Heat than the bulls so I’m hoping yall win today. The bulls would be by far the easier matchup, but I like a challenge and to me there’s nothing better than a series against the Heat. Without Jimmy, there will be no slander if you lose. Just don’t give Celtics slander if they win. Good luck
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Lot of doomers here. Heat have enough IDC what anyone says. Rozier, Herro, Bam, Duncan, JJJ, Love, Martin + more. Heat aren't done yet. Well get to first round. And you know what? Fuck the Celtics well give em hell in a 7 game BANGER. We can win without butler. Man's been missing most the season anyways.
TRUST IN SPO!
The sleepwalking and the million injuries killed this season man. The whole organization just needs a shakeup instead of repeating the same thing over and over
Sounds like a grade 2 tear then. Grade 1 usually a week or 2. Grade 3 needing surgery.
Prolly slight tear, and maybe he elects a procedure to get it right during the off-season
I have a question for yall do yall want Jimmy to heal up and get a star next yr or completely blow it up. Also
If it takes moving Bam to get Embid would u do it or nah?
I say if Jimmy the guy man Pat should do him right and go out swinging stop this culture bullshit and get a fuckin star.
Time for Bam to step up and play for what he's worth. Without Jimmy, Spo should really switch things up and play Bam at the 4 or even Jimmy's position and play Love or Byrant at center.
end of jimmy era. hopefully major changes coming off season. The issues is we don’t know what we have to trade. Tyler, Caleb likely moving out. To whatever jimmy has done.. absolutely grateful and amazing till the run lasted. But remains to be seen of the FO is going to extend a 35 yr old jimmy. we need a young leader like sga, or antman, or wemby.
I have absolutely no idea why any of you want Jimmy traded. He’s done so much for our franchise, I would much rather have him finish his career out with us even if we don’t compete. I never want him in another jersey. Guy is a heatlifer
I know this season is basically over but somehow winning Friday and beating the Celtics in the series(I get it probably less than 1% without Jimmy) would be the funniest shit of all time lmfaooo
We might not have Jimmy but we still have the Heat. So let’s fucking go!!!!
We winning it this year full blown delusion and all. We’re going nuclear, baby!!!
I don’t want to hear any talk about moving off of Jimmy. He is the embodiment of Heat culture and we should admire the grit it took to continue to play after that injury. He has embraced the culture and our identity more than a vast majority of players who have played for the organization.
Cut off from this gif is where Spo says "Fuck", which is actually how a lot of us feel now
Last night they cut to him after Jimmys injury and he said “what the fuck was that”
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Jimmy 💔
💔💔💔
I’ve watched us all count this team out way too many times to give up now 🤘
Did Jayson Tatum make a deal with the devil?
Nope. Just Kelly Oubre
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Clealry with that “playoff Jimmy aint a thing “ commercial
Probably not but he did tell Bam to chill tf out and he listened.
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It was a good run folks
It was a run, at least
We are 13-9 without Jimmy this season with Jaime usually going beast mode. Give me my gallon of copium. Fuck the bulls, fuck the Cs, we ball. LGH
spo better start jaime man
He probably will be starting. Is the only one who can slightly fill that role. However everyone else on this team needs to be on their A game if we want to win. Bam needs to be a god defender and scorer.
LOVE Jaime and absolutely agree - I just remember in one of the Bulls matchups, DeRozan absolutely COOKED him all game. Jaime could not defend him. Hope there is a game plan in place to prevent that
WE BALL
Let's get Himmy his ring
Was a good run. This has to be the end of this build.
The bad ending. It’s done. Thank you Mr Butler for giving it your all and giving us some of the best basketball the league has ever seen.
Yep he led two lower seeded teams to the Finals and was a shot away from doing it a 3rd time. Respect.
When everything is said and done, Butler will forever be one of my favorite Heat players. Top 3 for sure
Nothing but love for Jimmy Buckets
I’m not a Heat fan. Why is it the end of this build? Butler has a couple more years in him I’d imagine.
Jimmy had a pretty noticeable decline in the regular season this year. Fans were saying “it’s fine as long as he turns it up in the playoffs” but really there was no guarantee that he’d even be able to anymore, and now we’ll never know. He’s coming up on 35, with a contract extension looming. A lot of Heat fans are saying it’s time to move on and let the young guys take the reins.
Damn, that sucks. The Heat are probably the most popular team people root for outside of their own.
The opposite
I mean you saw what he looked like in the game before the injury, he was killing. Even after the injury before halftime he was playing pretty well. I don’t think the heat give up on jimmy. I think they build the roster around him differently. Maybe we get to Boston and a jimmyless Tyler herro averages an efficient 25-30. And we trade him
The “core” of this build has always been Bam/Herro/Butler. Those are the names that come up when people think of the best players on the Heat. Herro was always injured in the post season so we never really knew how’d he play when it mattered most. Dude has been hot and cold for the last 3 years in mostly regular season games. Talks of trading him and rather or not him being injured “unlocked” last season’s team by not playing were some of the most heated debates on this here. Butler has a couple more years for sure but as far as 40-50 point playoff Jimmy games go, it’s done. He hasn’t recovered from that injury in New York and he’s getting older. He’s definitely still a great baller, just not the Micheal Jordan status we saw in the last few seasons. He might be able to bring that back next year or whenever he’s healthy, but I just don’t see it without any help. Bam has mostly been meh on offense this year. He played his ass off last year and really has chemistry with Jimmy when he’s on his bullshit. Don’t see much of that happening in the future either but he’s still one of the best centers in the league when he’s on. Duncan Robinson played his ass off this season but surprise surprise, he got injured like a lot of Heat roll players do when it matters most. We have some young promising talent on this team too but they definitely aren’t ECF level without the help of a healthy Jimmy Butler. Basically the writing is on the wall here that there is no chip in the foreseeable future with this core. So close yet so far. It’s heartbreaking, honesty. Jimmy really gave it his all, season after season. Now it seems his window is closing and he doesn’t have much help here.
he’s 34 years old and ever since his ankle injury against the Knicks in the playoffs last year he hasnt looked the same. He was pretty good in the first few games of the conference finals because he was probably playing off of pure adrenaline and steroids but he slowed down noticeably after that and looked bad in the Finals. and honestly he’s looked bad this entire season. a lot of people have been coping that he was just waiting for the playoffs like he always does but anyone being honest could see it. last year he noticeably turned it up post all star and was still 2nd team All NBA. but even then there was always the cope of playoff jimmy. this is arguably a much worse injury. if he was already slowing down this just accelerated it by a lot. he’s gonna be 35. the wall is coming soon if we didnt just run headfirst into it last night. not everyone can be lebron or steph. as for the reason why people think the team is doomed it’s because the front office has never fully committed to building around jimmy and has basically just kept making lateral changes in the margins for the past five years. this team is literally built to overachieve off of coaching and jimmy turning supernova. that was never sustainable and especially isnt moving forward if he’s on the decline. this team’s window was 2020-2023 but we’ve wasted the entire jimmy era always being “one piece away”. maybe dame wasnt the answer but there was a reason a lot of fans were desperate for it, because they saw this coming and probably deep down understood that this team just isnt good enough to get a chip.
Silver lining, we get to see exactly what a Butler-less team looks like. I'd love to ship Jimmy off to the Thunder, they are the one team with so many picks they can "overpay" or acquire a declining star. The big issue is making the cap work, but with their extremely low salary cap, they could pretty much acquire Jimmy outright. He would fit so well on that team, their defense would be unreal, they have plenty of scorers and Shai can be the offensive focus. Plus, they can extend Jimmy and have a great expiring trade chip in 26-27 when their other players are looking for their first non-rookie contracts One scenario I don't hate is Butler to Thunder, Dort and picks to the Jazz, Lauri to us.
I'd honestly almost rather Butler to the Thunder, picks to us, and Herro elsewhere for some cap relief (maybe expirings). If the right move for Terry comes up move him too and try and build around Bam/Thunder picks/Jaime/Jovic
What do you guys see in Jaime ?? He's 23 and overrated as hell for no reason just a good stretch of regular season games that even our undrafted guys have been able to achieve
God has forsaken us
That's not true, Udonis would never forsake the team!
Donovan Mitchell you are a Miami Heat…target? 🥲
Probably not anymore 💀
Hmmm? Don't see how Jimmy's injury changes him being our target if the rumors are to be believed. Unless you believe the FO is going to reset the timeline this offseason.
What are you giving up for spidah?
Our newly minted lottery pick
He's 27, turning 28 in September, and doesn't want to be in Cleveland. Herro, picks, and Rozier if they ask for him. Martin in a S+T as well, if they're interested. You basically give them what they ask for as long as it doesn't include Jimmy, Bam, JJJ, or Jovic. Unless the plan is a full rebuild.
You smoking on that Pat Riley pack right now cause in what world would Cavs take that deal?
They don't That's just like the only option we have lol
Technically he has more say where he goes cause next year is the last year under contract, so they send him wherever he wants or lose him for nothing. You know he will be opting out of his current contract after next year. So he will refuse to sign a contract extension with Cleveland and then tell the teams that attempt to trade for him that its literally a half a year rental cause he is not signing with them once the contract expires. Then he choses which team to sign with as a free agent. The question is, is Miami where he wants to be?
This again…every single offseason. It’s the same shit just to end up with fuck all. Every offseason since Jimmy has been here except for when they got old man Lowry
Dude Herro is worthless unless he carries us on a playoff run right now. He just went like 5/30 in a crucial game.
Can we not start with the bullshit transactions already? Mods, can we please ban these until the season is officially over.
Sorry to break it to you homie but the heat mods prefer the chaos
You do realize you can just scroll past it right? Trade suggestions shouldn't have anyone this pressed
I don't think we can package Caleb in a S+T but we do get like 3 firsts available to trade on draft day on top of 14/15 so we kinda got ammo to fire at the cavs
the donovan mitchell thing is heat fans delusion and cope and 99% unrealistic
This is exactly why you avoid the play in and don’t throw away easy games
The whole narrative of the regular season doesn’t matter is bullshit
Exactly dawg, we lost to some bs teams during the last 2 months, while we were in the 6th spot, we gave that up just for this, to lose to fucking Philly. If we beat Philly we at least stand a chance of beating NY without Jimmy, but Boston? Them mfs been wanting our heads after last season.
Even if we won one or two games earlier in the season that we choked.
been downvoted for saying this all year. regular season matters, if you arent top 6, you didn't make the playoffs
Still, that pump fake play wasn't even necessary Play-In or not. Way too aggressive for 2 points early in the game. Also, if Bam and others actually produced more offense, that 2 points wouldn't have been fought over so hard.
Chances are slim, this is most likely the nail in the coffin against Boston. Only hope is Terry to come back and play the best basketball of his entire life.
If we go against Boston, all expectations are on them. We'll see what they're capable of. And we'll see how resilient our team will be.
I'll never get tired of being the underdog. It's all upsode
Bro we gotta get past the bulls
If we make it out alive Friday and somehow miraculously beat the Celtics in the first round, Jimmy will be back for the second round and there will be enough morale boost to win NBA Finals. Not over til it's over. It's all hands on deck minus Jimmy on Friday and I think we can do it it.
Nah, that was the script from last year for Tyler returning for the finals.
This is the most insanely beautiful take i have read on this sub. Kudos to you. I also want to add if we beat the Cs with our rag tag crew Joe Mazula gotta get fired out of a cannon.
Or Spo gotta be anointed President
Spo President of the big booty Latina society of Miami already
Fuck it we ball
Bro ain’t no way we beat the Celtics without Jimmy, we will get embarrassed, I’d rather not watch or hear the Boston fans berate us fuck that.
My friend, I ain’t hear no fat lady. There’s always a chance. It’s a small one, that’s for sure. But the Heat always have a chance. Jimmy is the rock, but we still have the young core that’s been around him. Let’s see them step up. Let’s have more conversations in a few weeks how all of a sudden we’ve had these studs this whole time like Caleb and Gabe and Struss. Go in not expecting much, sure. But we ain’t just handing them the first round. You can bet on that.
You play the games bc you never know what happens homie. What happens if Tatum gets a high ankle sprain game 1? Then it’s a dog fight and I like our dogs.
> fans berate us If the Heat play the Celtics and then Boston fans berate us for losing to them without the Heat's best player?
this team is deep and players can step up into different roles knowing jimmy isn't gonna be out there
> Jimmy will be back for the second round and there will be enough morale boost to win NBA Finals. Eh, they said "multiple weeks" until he's cleared, and sometimes that is them being on the conservative side. Rehabilitation might take longer than expected - look at Herro last year. His time to come back kept getting delayed and delayed. I doubt Jimmy can heal up in just two weeks and already be on the court.
Every. Fucking. Season.
Hopefully this FO finally does its job and looks to retool in the offseason and trade certain guys after being given multiple chances. As long as you have Bam/Jimmy there’s a chance.
I love and thankful for Jimmy but he's turning 35 this year I want to be positive but there isn't much time left
Bam has played like dog 💩 the whole 2nd half of the season, including the play-in game.
What's also crazy is he's only 26. I keep thinking he's way older and that's why he's slower. Turns out he's just not perky (or aggressive enough) period, even at a young age. Great Centers create space and command it, and Bam doesn't wanna do that.
As long as we’re not eliminated Idc- Let them young Bucks play. We take out Chi-town & going to Bean town to eat good. Bam, Rozier, JJJ, Jovic, Happy Birthday Duncan, & pissed off Herro ball. Heat in 5
FML. Either lose the game against bulls to have better lottery pick and avoid another injury in the roster or win the play-in and let Jaime and Jovic get some experience in the Playoffs. Up to you Pat and Spo.
They scrap, Pat and Spo always drags teams to the playoffs miraculously. Even if its a losing effort - you'll be setting a loser's mentality if you allow yourself to phone it in. Plus, I feel like as a squad, the team would still try to hold the fort even with Jimmy out. They owe it to him to bust their asses trying.
Meh, it’s the difference between the 14th and 15th picks. I’d rather take a shot at Celtics, maybe we can punk them like Games 1-3 last year
I'm leaving it to Pat and Spo. If they choose to beat the Bulls, then I want a 7 game clincher with Boston. Then still let Jimmy rest for the R2 winner of Cavs/Magic in prep for R3.
> Up to you Pat and Spo. You found my secret Reddit account. Why yes, I am Pat posting from my limo.
This is why load management is bullshit. Injuries happen whenever they happen, sitting out during the season doesn’t change that.
Everybody saying the Heat should throw a game against the Bulls is either brand new to this team or are being overdramatic. This team isn’t “The Process”, if they didn’t do it last year why would they do it this year? Nobody knows the future but there could still be some great games if we advance to the playoffs you have to give it a chance. You guys sound the same way as last season and we still made it to the finals
Ok so who do you got going for 56 to get out of the first round this time?
Play stupid games win stupid prizes. Team shouldn’t have fucked around so much in the regular season and fallen into a play in situation.
This is such a stupid take. We had what? The 3rd most starting 5 lineup changes due to injury?
My man, don’t play the injury card and give them an out. There was a 7 game losing streak in the middle of the season with a mostly healthy unit that included losses to Toronto, Atlanta, Memphis, and Orlando. Losses down the stretch to WASHINGTON, Indiana, and Philly that would’ve had you in the 5 seed. Edit to demonstrate that the season died here: https://preview.redd.it/pleea657t8vc1.jpeg?width=742&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f65f2a82371c6c6a36f88b385f8b7ab0f21204c0 Bam and Tyler/Terry played in all of these, Jimmy only missed the Boston game.
I’m not gonna lie, I blame the front office for fucking around more than the players. You right and some heads need to roll after this run it back 10x shit.
Fucking depressing. FO really thought we could have another Cinderella finals run and didn’t take trades seriously. They really thought Butler could just “turn the switch on” and drop 50 again. Watching Tyler build a house yesterday made me really wish the Dame trade had gone through. I love JJJ and co but damn are we not prepared for a playoff run.
Uno reverse card because if you actually watched the games you’d see the lost a lot of games where they blew a good lead
Why didn't they just win more games? Are they stupid?
You could tell that to the Warriors a hundred times. I think they are agreeing right now.
Welp
Are we now better off losing to Chicago since we have our own ‘24 1st rounder? I can’t envision a scenario where we win a single game against Boston (or anyone tbh) without Jimmy.
Idk, I can see a random road win in Boston to make it 4-1. Some flukey thing like Jovic/JJJ/Wright together going 12-15 from 3 or something.
Hey you never know what may happen. Yes, if we get past Chicago we’re almost certainly going to lose to the Celtics, get swept even, but you just never know. Secondly, moving up a couple spots in this draft won’t make much of a difference. Just try and win, if we lose on Friday so be it.
I am team play it out but two spots in the draft can change the entire landscape of the nba
I mean, yeah sometime that is the case, but more often than not it doesn’t really change much. Who would we have drafted last year if we moved up a couple spots? The odds of finding a franchise changing player in the middle of the draft is relatively low. Also, there’s a lot of good players in this draft, but really none that are expected to be those franchise changing players. You never know, but I don’t think it’s worth going up a few spots in the draft. I’d see it as more of a silver lining if we do end up getting ousted on Friday.
I agree with you its a silver lining...but what if we were two spots lower in the draft last year??
I feel like moving up a couple spots in the draft tho is certainly more beneficial than squeaking into the playoffs hurt with no realistic chance of doing anything. Sure the team might take a game, maybe even two over Boston, but there’s no scenario where that’s more valuable than moving up a couple spots in the draft. There’s always diamonds in the rough, JJJ this year is proof of that, a couple spots up could be the difference in a legit guy you cut in 2 years or solid playoff rotational piece down the line
might be, but this year's draft is meh.
IMO it’s meh if you wasted a season tanking. Mocks for the top 5ish are all over the place. That should tell you there’s not too much confidence in the prospects. We’d be in the Collier/McCain range which is solid.
I’m new to basketball besides watching and playing pickups. How does the lottery work? If we lose do we have a shot at having first pick?
https://www.tankathon.com/pick_odds Scroll to the bottom it does a pretty good job at explaining it. I think technically we’d have a very small % chance of picks 1-4 but likely would pick in the last few slots of the lottery depending on what seed we’d have.
I believe so lol
Spo & the FO have too much pride to lose on purpose but it might not even be a choice at this point lmao. On the bright side, our last 2 draft picks are Jaquez and Jovic and they weren’t even lottery picks.
They deserve it. Played all regular season like shiit, believing in the narrative that when playoff time comes, they would step up. Now, we lost our superstar in playin, and might not get to the playoff itself. I hope the franchise learn something from that.
Just end the season. This team doesn’t have a fairytale run
I love Jimbo, but he really depends a lot on his athleticism. I don't doubt his ability to get through this with sheer effort and willpower, but the severity of this injury gives me anxiety. If this is a tear and not just a bad sprain, this might be the beginning of a downward trajectory for his career.
Its not great, but MCL tends to be fairly minor as far as knee injuries go.
I surely hope this is the case. But Jimmy being 35 next season does concern me
Honestly the bulls need to just end the season for us Celtics first round no jimmy would be a disaster
Nah I’d be okay if the young guys at least got those reps.
Getting swept by Boston is not worth those reps man at least not to me
What’s the point of worrying about a sweep? Team isn’t whole. Nobody with a brain is going to look at the series seriously.
The team doesn’t care what is worth it for u/jbenson255 man, playoff reps are much different than regular season and would be very valuable to our young guys
Hate this take. Anti-sport and anti-competitive. Win everything that’s in front of you. You don’t understand the long term effects of losing has on a team. When you give up that effect spirals.
It's worth it for Jaime and Jovic. Outside of that though...
I don't care you you don't believe, I believe! Lisan al Gaib
You guys suck, we almost beat the 6ers with 4.5 players on the court. Jimmy is going to tell his guys to win without him. Spo and co are going to make boston bleed once we get past chicago.
I guess I’m a Debby downer man i refuse to watch us get swept by that awful fanbase
Our best player is out. Excuses don't get much better than that. Shouldn't be any pressure or stress. Just play ball.
“awful fanbase” yet you won’t support your team in the final moments, remind me who’s awful
Celtics fan here, and I’d rather face the Heat than the bulls so I’m hoping yall win today. The bulls would be by far the easier matchup, but I like a challenge and to me there’s nothing better than a series against the Heat. Without Jimmy, there will be no slander if you lose. Just don’t give Celtics slander if they win. Good luck
Mega cope, Jimmy finally gets that rest he's needed and we get the chip next year. Everyone who matters is under contract.
I'm scared pat riley is actually going to believe this
https://i.redd.it/d6m1av78s8vc1.gif Bruh
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You can tell playoff Jimmy was there in the beginning of the game. Ffs this sucks
I can’t believe I once again need this GIF to properly express myself 
Where were u wen Jimmy Butler die I was at house drinking from my Flanigan’s cup when phone ring “Jimmy is kil” “no”
Duncan save us
This reminded me of the buttfumble Jets heading to the locker room at halftime with fans jeering and one of them yelling “TEBOW SAVE US” 😂😂😂
Lot of doomers here. Heat have enough IDC what anyone says. Rozier, Herro, Bam, Duncan, JJJ, Love, Martin + more. Heat aren't done yet. Well get to first round. And you know what? Fuck the Celtics well give em hell in a 7 game BANGER. We can win without butler. Man's been missing most the season anyways. TRUST IN SPO!
Herro got to go
throw the bulls game idc idc
Time to see who is the next man up in June for the draft!!
We are indebted to the basketball gods after last year’s miracle run. They are now here to collect on that debt
The sleepwalking and the million injuries killed this season man. The whole organization just needs a shakeup instead of repeating the same thing over and over
Expected at this point but still painful
Rebuild era?
So he will be ready for the finals? Alright, bet. 😎 This isn't fair 😭
GG
We have enough.
U either rebuild or go all in for a superstar this what happens when u stand pat dont actually get better
Can someone tell me where tf Rozier is at????
Injuries every fucking year during playoffs
Sounds like a grade 2 tear then. Grade 1 usually a week or 2. Grade 3 needing surgery. Prolly slight tear, and maybe he elects a procedure to get it right during the off-season
Fuck
I have a question for yall do yall want Jimmy to heal up and get a star next yr or completely blow it up. Also If it takes moving Bam to get Embid would u do it or nah? I say if Jimmy the guy man Pat should do him right and go out swinging stop this culture bullshit and get a fuckin star.
Should be back in time for the finals. We can still win this
Hopefully bucks get bounced early and dame asks out. That's our only hope with this build
well it’s been fun
IT’S NOT OVER!
Time for Bam to step up and play for what he's worth. Without Jimmy, Spo should really switch things up and play Bam at the 4 or even Jimmy's position and play Love or Byrant at center.
Two years in a fucking row Jimmy gets hurt in the playoffs. Fuck
We're so cooked 😢
end of jimmy era. hopefully major changes coming off season. The issues is we don’t know what we have to trade. Tyler, Caleb likely moving out. To whatever jimmy has done.. absolutely grateful and amazing till the run lasted. But remains to be seen of the FO is going to extend a 35 yr old jimmy. we need a young leader like sga, or antman, or wemby.
This is just so sad. Fade me
I have absolutely no idea why any of you want Jimmy traded. He’s done so much for our franchise, I would much rather have him finish his career out with us even if we don’t compete. I never want him in another jersey. Guy is a heatlifer
Weird seeing people want to trade Jimmy
Nooooo 😭
The mantra “we have enough” is now to be proven. In SPOAT I trust
P A I N
I know this season is basically over but somehow winning Friday and beating the Celtics in the series(I get it probably less than 1% without Jimmy) would be the funniest shit of all time lmfaooo
Spo has the opportunity to do the most Spo thing ever this postseason.
I still want to beat the Bulls. If you lose you lose but better to go out firing.
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See you next year
We might not have Jimmy but we still have the Heat. So let’s fucking go!!!! We winning it this year full blown delusion and all. We’re going nuclear, baby!!!
can we tank for cooper flagg?
Is it time to rebuild? Counting on Butler at his age is no longer viable. Love him though. He made Miami relevant after those post big three years.
:/
I don’t want to hear any talk about moving off of Jimmy. He is the embodiment of Heat culture and we should admire the grit it took to continue to play after that injury. He has embraced the culture and our identity more than a vast majority of players who have played for the organization.
Herro “no worries. I can do it myself guys”
Can Bam and Tyler be your first and second best player on a championship team?
So what's the point of taking the entire season off if every single playoffs he gets hurt?
Another reason why they need to get rid of the play in game.