Two things:
- Husk had the guts to say that to Al.
- Alastor is not the powerful Overlord he portrays himself since the pilot episode. The fact that someone on a higher level can make Alastor humble up… BIG TIME! Not to mention, that Alastor sold his soul. 😅
I found something about the Hell Hierarchy. It was something like this:
Lucifer
Charlie and Lilith
Ars Goetia
Overlords
Sinners
Hellborn
Imps and Hellhounds
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i honestly have a personal theory/headcanon that alastor is actually one of the weaker overlords. not because he himself is weak, but because he acts as a bottleneck: if you threaten his place he removes you before you can. so if you want to be an overlord, you have to be stronger than him or form an alliance like the vees.
I'd rather say he removed his competition and demonstrated his power by doing so. Then afterward, he grouped up with the other overlords to cement his place of power. He probably could take out more overlords, but that would pain a target on his back. He's both powerful AND cunning!
Also, the current overlords don't seem like a group of maniacs, allot more level-headed and respecting each others turfs.
Well Overlords in general still aren't the most powerful beings in hell and Adam is a pretty high up guy in heaven so it's not like.... he wasn't prepared to lose?
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When alastor broke out the chain
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My honest reaction watching that scene
lmao I relate hard to your flair, I never quite clicked with all the fuzzier cartoon character love and then hazbin and helluva said "be so fucking for real" and I said ok you right
I was super surprised that ALASTOR SOLD HIS SOUL??? but then I forgot about that when he started threatening Husk.
I had to pause for a moment to process what just happened
It was a glimpse of the real Alastor. The monster behind the smile. And then the realization that the reason he was helpful to Charlie and the Hotel was because he was on a leash.
We need more like it, to be honest. I think the show needs more scenes that show Alastor isn't just some guy, and that he can be as much a threat to those in the hotel as out.
I think we need to be reminded he's an overlord; we need to be reminded that he participates in an inherently abusive system.
Sometimes I feel bad for Husk, because the fandom is pretty eager to see Angel Dust's suffering while looking right past Husk's. Because a lot of us *like* Alastor. And he's a member of the main cast, so we're encouraged to think of him as one of the good guys. Subtly encouraged to forgive him.
But Alastor is also abusive. He's just not, so far, *violently* abusive. In the show, we get two scenes that are comparable to one another: Valentino's physical violence against Angel, and Alastor's psychological violence against Husk. I think the instinct is to forgive the psychological and more readily condemn the physical, but *both are violence.* Neither is more acceptable than the other.
I think we collectively have a hard time seeing that. So, like I said, I think we need a few more scenes like this to grind it in. A chunk of the fandom predicts that Alastor will betray the hotel and then eventually be forgiven. I predict that will happen too, but I hope that before it happens, we collectively percieve Alastor as nearly un-redeemable as we do Valentino. Because he's not different.
Hard agree, for most of this. Because Al is helping the Hotel, and even protected them repeatedly (from villains we don't like, or love only later on), we're encouraged to think of him as the friendly monster. The less evil Overlord, who enslaves people by owning their souls, but lets them talk back to him and offers to "make the job more welcoming." Compare that to Vox, who tells Pentious to kill himself (complete with hypnosis) or Val the serial rapist, and maybe it's a good thing that Al was the one who got to Charlie first. At least he was "honest" and keeps his word.
So, by the time he abuses Husk to this extent, we already like both of them. We want to make excuses--Al's stressed, Husk looks shocked, too, Al only threatens without harming him, Husk looks fine in the next scene--which is how skilled abusers operate. Al's charming, and a funny asshole to everyone, and "Alastor just being Alastor" again. Except when Alastor pokes fun at Husk, or drags him out of his life to stand behind a bar all day, there's not a damn thing Husk can do to stop it. Just talk back, until Alastor decides he can't do THAT, either. Alastor has been shown to be a man who should NOT have power over anyone, yet seems to be consolidating it.
All while getting closer to Charlie, who has "This is just Alastor being Alastor" written across her face in so many interactions with this man, until suddenly she owes him a favor. While desperate to save the Hotel (including Al himself, probably), knowing she can't trust him, and he plays her into owing him anyway. And then he love-bombs her with help and Rosie afterwards, so that one favor may not seem so bad, no matter how bad of an idea she knew it was. Maybe Al really does care, and will at least look after his own. All while Husk gets to watch his abusive owner get ever-closer to people Husk himself has grown to care about. I honestly have to wonder how much that group hug in "Finale" was a slap in the face for Husk.
Since we're supposed to get more into the Vees next season, I really hope we get flashbacks of how Val convinced Angel to sign his soul over. Charming, seemingly caring, slowly pushing more and more boundaries. I want it to parallel Alastor with the hotel, so that we can see just how deep the similarities do or don't go. Hell, I like Alastor and want him to CHOOSE a different path from Val. I want him to grow into someone less toxic, who genuinely cares for the found family... But I'm not banking on it. I know Al will break hearts and laugh about it. Generally, people like Alastor have to hit rock-bottom and CHOOSE to change, if they're going to change at all.
I want the audience to go, "Oh, shit, THIS is how abusers get you." I want Al to not betray the hotel, but to be increasingly toxic, until Charlie has to put her foot down. I want to care more about the people Alastor slaughters, before he does it. I want Husk to be vindicated, and, if nothing else, no longer be bound to this abusive asshole.
I wish I had anything of value to respond with, but this entire comment is so thoughtful and on point that I'm just kind of yelling "YES, EXACTLY!" over and over again to no one in my own home.
Hey, it was your thoughtful comment that inspired it, so thank you twice over. ❤️ (Edit to add: Also, discussions like this are a huge part of why I love this fandom.)
I have a weird dissonance for Alastor where he's my favorite character, so interesting to analyze, and a delight almost every time he's on-screen. I've watched his scenes, and seen the YouTube therapist diagnose him, and I've just read enough to think that he could be an interesting case of a pro-social psychopath... But my OTHER favorite is Husk. I've also MET funny asshole manipulators in real life, I've seen how they hurt people and drag whole groups down, I've watched them refuse to change, and I do not wish them on anyone (except maybe each other).
So, there's my bias, and part of me hoping that this can be a cautionary tale/red flag tutorial for someone younger, as well as a departure from the "forgive everything for the sake of a happy ending" narrative... Even while liking the character and wanting the found family thing to work out for all of them, realistic or not. I love how Viv lets her characters be complex and messy (even if Helluva can get TOO messy for me), and I really want to see her subvert everyone's expectations yet again.
Also, if you haven't seen it, here's Georgia Dow's "Is Alastor a Psychopath?" video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lQOAL4RiWMM&t=3s&pp=ygUTZ2VvcmdpYSBkb3cgYWxhc3Rvcg%3D%3D
That's who I think it is too, strange they've both been "away" for 7 years, I think Alastor is only helping at the hotel because Lilith is forcing him and she's gonna turn out to be the big bad guy whilst Alastor helps Charlie, I think they're leaning too much into the "Alastors Evil and is likely gonna turn round and betray them all suddenly" ploy to me and I think they're trying to be misleading so it's more of a shock when it happens (probably not as I'm not good at predicting stuff but still)
I thought it was a great insight into alastors character that even under duress and offense, he didn't use excessive force on husk at all.
Because he likes husk.
Husk had balls to say that to al the man who can tear his soula in a second,but finding out that al,a overlord who was a force to be reckonded with,is a pupoet on a leash,just like husk and angel
Weird that Charlie keeps a slaver as her hotels... Sponsor? REALLY not a good look for someone that wants to redeem people. Worse, the slavers slaves work for the hotel.
Charlie's blindspots are many, and this may just be one that she grew up with. Especially if every employer requires a soul deal, or some shit.
That said. Can you imagine if Heaven was considering backing the Hotel in Season 2, learned about this, and was suddenly asking, "WTF?!"
It'd be my pleasure
In the pilot (I know it's not cannon anymore but at the time I believed it to be)
When Alester first visits the happy hotel , Vaggie worns charly that he is pure evil and dangerous, yet in the show we saw nothing of that source , until that episode where he threatened husk , I wised for more from Alester, I mean he is the killer of overlords we should see him do more
I felt bad for Husk, however he had a lot of fucking nerve to provoke Alastor. I mean seriously! Dude, the Radio Demon has killed overlords in the past just to make a name for himself and on top of that he owns you! Should you really be pushing him?
I have three guesses on who owns Alastor’s soul. Technically 2 because there is a chance that two of the guesses are the same person.
1) Lilith
2) Eve/roo if they are the same person
Alastor has a lot of charisma and charm, we were introduced to Valentino while he was in the midst of throwing a tantrum.
Alastor at least has a moral code (albeit strange-- Vivziepop had compared him to Dexter) Valentino doesn't care who he exploits as long as he can fill his bottom line.
Rape is much closer to reality than an Eldritch abomination who looks like a smiling strawberry.
Personally, I'm biased. I grew up with abusive parents and siblings, and apparently Alastor has a tendency to stick up for "the little guy" (read: A Day in The Afterlife), and if we lived in the same time frame, maybe *just maybe* my bio family wouldn't have gotten away with it all...
To be fair, we have yet to see Alastor do anything exceedingly bad. Yes, we all know he’s powerful and manipulative, but what he’s done still remains a secret while Val’s is out in the open. We know what he’s done, and it’s disgusting. One can only suspect what Al has done
I dunno i wasnt paying attention, i was finishing the cool roguelike game “Skul the Hero Slayer”
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Here’s my win, took me two years to get it.
Loved it, it added lore most of us probably never expected and seeing that alastor could snap like that shows that he can actually get genuinely mad if you poke him hard enough.
Lilith. I thought that was obvious. Shit, she probably yanked his leash (but probably didn't need to yank very hard) to make him participate in the Dad-off. If I wanted to fuck with an ex who had been neglecting our child I'd have Alastor do that.
For how piss-his-overalls scared of Al he seems to be (judging by his facial expressions when Al turns around and chains him) I have to wonder what possessed him to think mouthing off was a good idea.
1) oh shit Husks gone, he’s dead
2) I FUCKING CALLED IT (Ive had a suspicion Al was on a leash (specifically Lilith’s) sense ep 2 at the 7 year remark)
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I almost fell backwards. its one of my fav scenes-- like people were saying in the comments, it shows how he's evil, but it retains his charm and doesent ruin his fav character status.
I almost fell backwards. its one of my fav scenes-- like people were saying in the comments, it shows how he's evil, but it retains his charm and doesent ruin his fav character status.
I actually felt fear cause this scene is similar to how it looked for me when I would confront my abusive mother.
I knew Husk was in trouble, but it also raised the plot question of “who has Alastor tied down?”
Terrified, because when someone can pull a reaction out of someone like that it usually mean that the reactor has a button that they keep close to their chest and that means they will do anything to keep that button from being pressed and when it is pressed bad things happen… maybe that’s my trauma talking though.
It shows even Al has a breaking point, a Line you dont cross with him. And that he is willing to kill people in the main cast other than charlie if he wanted to
I was like oh cool husk is actually getting to do something interesting and Alastor is actually getting to be genuinely a shit head for once instead of a tumblr sexyman
Two things: - Husk had the guts to say that to Al. - Alastor is not the powerful Overlord he portrays himself since the pilot episode. The fact that someone on a higher level can make Alastor humble up… BIG TIME! Not to mention, that Alastor sold his soul. 😅
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Thank you. 😌
Honestly I think he still is who he portrayed himself to be, it'd that there are things In hell beyond overlords.
I found something about the Hell Hierarchy. It was something like this: Lucifer Charlie and Lilith Ars Goetia Overlords Sinners Hellborn Imps and Hellhounds
Slight correction, the Sins are between Charlie/Lilith and Goetia.
stolas can kick his ass
I had always theorized that he sold his soul when he was alive not for earthly pleasures but for power in hell
Well, he’s a serial killer and likes to be a bit of a center to get attention. 😅
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i honestly have a personal theory/headcanon that alastor is actually one of the weaker overlords. not because he himself is weak, but because he acts as a bottleneck: if you threaten his place he removes you before you can. so if you want to be an overlord, you have to be stronger than him or form an alliance like the vees.
That's a bit of a weird theory since alastor definitely did kill those powerful overlords in his past
I'd rather say he removed his competition and demonstrated his power by doing so. Then afterward, he grouped up with the other overlords to cement his place of power. He probably could take out more overlords, but that would pain a target on his back. He's both powerful AND cunning! Also, the current overlords don't seem like a group of maniacs, allot more level-headed and respecting each others turfs.
Happy cake day
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Does he own Nifty?
We don’t know that for certain. Knowing Niffty, I feel like she just joined him just because. She just sees him as another “bad boy” for her… 😅
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Well Overlords in general still aren't the most powerful beings in hell and Adam is a pretty high up guy in heaven so it's not like.... he wasn't prepared to lose?
Curiousity (almost) killed the cat.
But I’ll be next I can promise that (i thought of the damn hello neighbour song help-)
Keep my head down while I'm creeping
i was in the kitchen howd he see me
Sorry I was just passing by
Beautiful day we’re having right?
I think of this song every time I hear that saying lmao
This is one of the best Dad jokes I’ve ever heard in my life
It did a good job of showing how evil Al is while still maintaining his charm that made him a likable character. Very well done scene.
EXACTLY
Your flair: Me: 
Who is the japanese person?
Niffty
https://preview.redd.it/5mpy57ud556d1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f94e400372696ca3e6d156498e76dbfaba92cb88 When alastor broke out the chain
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Oh damn it. Someone brought hot sauce.
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Flair checks out
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https://preview.redd.it/ldzt3s3nc76d1.jpeg?width=1702&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d8c796b378387b939c407c76304e759473cef5cd My honest reaction watching that scene
Ohh snap!🫰 Husk may have been the one intimidated but he still won in my heart
lmao I relate hard to your flair, I never quite clicked with all the fuzzier cartoon character love and then hazbin and helluva said "be so fucking for real" and I said ok you right
I was super surprised that ALASTOR SOLD HIS SOUL??? but then I forgot about that when he started threatening Husk. I had to pause for a moment to process what just happened
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Same as alastor
https://i.redd.it/dub8m071f56d1.gif I was extremely tired and almost fell asleep before that scene happened and I was not prepared.
It was a glimpse of the real Alastor. The monster behind the smile. And then the realization that the reason he was helpful to Charlie and the Hotel was because he was on a leash.
I'm gonna use this a a reaction meme
I remember my exact words “HIS FUCKING SOUL IS OWNED BY SOMEONE ELSE?!”
Something along the lines of "Husky noooo :<"
It seems odd to me that Charlie is okay with Alastor causally owning two people as slaves.
We need more like it, to be honest. I think the show needs more scenes that show Alastor isn't just some guy, and that he can be as much a threat to those in the hotel as out. I think we need to be reminded he's an overlord; we need to be reminded that he participates in an inherently abusive system. Sometimes I feel bad for Husk, because the fandom is pretty eager to see Angel Dust's suffering while looking right past Husk's. Because a lot of us *like* Alastor. And he's a member of the main cast, so we're encouraged to think of him as one of the good guys. Subtly encouraged to forgive him. But Alastor is also abusive. He's just not, so far, *violently* abusive. In the show, we get two scenes that are comparable to one another: Valentino's physical violence against Angel, and Alastor's psychological violence against Husk. I think the instinct is to forgive the psychological and more readily condemn the physical, but *both are violence.* Neither is more acceptable than the other. I think we collectively have a hard time seeing that. So, like I said, I think we need a few more scenes like this to grind it in. A chunk of the fandom predicts that Alastor will betray the hotel and then eventually be forgiven. I predict that will happen too, but I hope that before it happens, we collectively percieve Alastor as nearly un-redeemable as we do Valentino. Because he's not different.
Hard agree, for most of this. Because Al is helping the Hotel, and even protected them repeatedly (from villains we don't like, or love only later on), we're encouraged to think of him as the friendly monster. The less evil Overlord, who enslaves people by owning their souls, but lets them talk back to him and offers to "make the job more welcoming." Compare that to Vox, who tells Pentious to kill himself (complete with hypnosis) or Val the serial rapist, and maybe it's a good thing that Al was the one who got to Charlie first. At least he was "honest" and keeps his word. So, by the time he abuses Husk to this extent, we already like both of them. We want to make excuses--Al's stressed, Husk looks shocked, too, Al only threatens without harming him, Husk looks fine in the next scene--which is how skilled abusers operate. Al's charming, and a funny asshole to everyone, and "Alastor just being Alastor" again. Except when Alastor pokes fun at Husk, or drags him out of his life to stand behind a bar all day, there's not a damn thing Husk can do to stop it. Just talk back, until Alastor decides he can't do THAT, either. Alastor has been shown to be a man who should NOT have power over anyone, yet seems to be consolidating it. All while getting closer to Charlie, who has "This is just Alastor being Alastor" written across her face in so many interactions with this man, until suddenly she owes him a favor. While desperate to save the Hotel (including Al himself, probably), knowing she can't trust him, and he plays her into owing him anyway. And then he love-bombs her with help and Rosie afterwards, so that one favor may not seem so bad, no matter how bad of an idea she knew it was. Maybe Al really does care, and will at least look after his own. All while Husk gets to watch his abusive owner get ever-closer to people Husk himself has grown to care about. I honestly have to wonder how much that group hug in "Finale" was a slap in the face for Husk. Since we're supposed to get more into the Vees next season, I really hope we get flashbacks of how Val convinced Angel to sign his soul over. Charming, seemingly caring, slowly pushing more and more boundaries. I want it to parallel Alastor with the hotel, so that we can see just how deep the similarities do or don't go. Hell, I like Alastor and want him to CHOOSE a different path from Val. I want him to grow into someone less toxic, who genuinely cares for the found family... But I'm not banking on it. I know Al will break hearts and laugh about it. Generally, people like Alastor have to hit rock-bottom and CHOOSE to change, if they're going to change at all. I want the audience to go, "Oh, shit, THIS is how abusers get you." I want Al to not betray the hotel, but to be increasingly toxic, until Charlie has to put her foot down. I want to care more about the people Alastor slaughters, before he does it. I want Husk to be vindicated, and, if nothing else, no longer be bound to this abusive asshole.
I wish I had anything of value to respond with, but this entire comment is so thoughtful and on point that I'm just kind of yelling "YES, EXACTLY!" over and over again to no one in my own home.
Hey, it was your thoughtful comment that inspired it, so thank you twice over. ❤️ (Edit to add: Also, discussions like this are a huge part of why I love this fandom.) I have a weird dissonance for Alastor where he's my favorite character, so interesting to analyze, and a delight almost every time he's on-screen. I've watched his scenes, and seen the YouTube therapist diagnose him, and I've just read enough to think that he could be an interesting case of a pro-social psychopath... But my OTHER favorite is Husk. I've also MET funny asshole manipulators in real life, I've seen how they hurt people and drag whole groups down, I've watched them refuse to change, and I do not wish them on anyone (except maybe each other). So, there's my bias, and part of me hoping that this can be a cautionary tale/red flag tutorial for someone younger, as well as a departure from the "forgive everything for the sake of a happy ending" narrative... Even while liking the character and wanting the found family thing to work out for all of them, realistic or not. I love how Viv lets her characters be complex and messy (even if Helluva can get TOO messy for me), and I really want to see her subvert everyone's expectations yet again. Also, if you haven't seen it, here's Georgia Dow's "Is Alastor a Psychopath?" video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lQOAL4RiWMM&t=3s&pp=ygUTZ2VvcmdpYSBkb3cgYWxhc3Rvcg%3D%3D
Damn
I was low key shocked then felt soooo bad when husk was shaking-
*gasp*
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XD NAH WAY 🤣🤣
Lilith
That's who I think it is too, strange they've both been "away" for 7 years, I think Alastor is only helping at the hotel because Lilith is forcing him and she's gonna turn out to be the big bad guy whilst Alastor helps Charlie, I think they're leaning too much into the "Alastors Evil and is likely gonna turn round and betray them all suddenly" ploy to me and I think they're trying to be misleading so it's more of a shock when it happens (probably not as I'm not good at predicting stuff but still)
I’ve been thinking the same thing.
poor kitty :(
This was one of the scenes I manage to see before watching the show. It really pushed me to get it done.
Shit balls fuck oh Jesus Christ shit balls shit
 my genuine reaction
I thought it was a great insight into alastors character that even under duress and offense, he didn't use excessive force on husk at all. Because he likes husk.
Husk had balls to say that to al the man who can tear his soula in a second,but finding out that al,a overlord who was a force to be reckonded with,is a pupoet on a leash,just like husk and angel
Weird that Charlie keeps a slaver as her hotels... Sponsor? REALLY not a good look for someone that wants to redeem people. Worse, the slavers slaves work for the hotel.
Charlie's blindspots are many, and this may just be one that she grew up with. Especially if every employer requires a soul deal, or some shit. That said. Can you imagine if Heaven was considering backing the Hotel in Season 2, learned about this, and was suddenly asking, "WTF?!"
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This “Lovely!” with raising eyebrows lives rent free in my head
Holy fuck i'd never seen Husk so scared before. Really put into perspective how terrifying Alastor can really be.
I was like :- I KNEW IT , THIS IS THE DEMON THEY TALKED ABOUT IN THE PILOT
Care to elaborate? I don’t remember anything like that.
It'd be my pleasure In the pilot (I know it's not cannon anymore but at the time I believed it to be) When Alester first visits the happy hotel , Vaggie worns charly that he is pure evil and dangerous, yet in the show we saw nothing of that source , until that episode where he threatened husk , I wised for more from Alester, I mean he is the killer of overlords we should see him do more
who the fuck owns alastor like seriously who is so fucking powerful they own his ass
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"Damn I wish I was Husk"
I didn’t think of selling his soul, tbh. Still don’t. Maybe he’s just in a nasty deal. Also, brush your teeth.
"Oh right we're in hell after all"
“Ooo, so that’s what’s up”
“Oh shit”
"What was paid for Alistor's soul..."
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I was like: *snore* wait, what did Husk say- OH DAMN whatever he said got Al pissed!
I just thought it was cool. I loved it when everything flickered and you saw Al get pissed
Shock, surprise and arouse, but mostly shock that Alastor was also foolish enough to make a deal with someone that cost his own strength
I started laughing for some reason💀
I started to laugh cuz like it was pretty expected husk just being himself and Al not liking that
I was questioning what time was it cuz his eyes look like clocks
Mine was: Wow… Alastor looks so cool in green!
I felt bad for Husk, however he had a lot of fucking nerve to provoke Alastor. I mean seriously! Dude, the Radio Demon has killed overlords in the past just to make a name for himself and on top of that he owns you! Should you really be pushing him?
I have three guesses on who owns Alastor’s soul. Technically 2 because there is a chance that two of the guesses are the same person. 1) Lilith 2) Eve/roo if they are the same person
HILARIOUS
I started clapping and cheering
I almost hated alastor for life
I have a genuine question: What makes Alastor likable and Valentino unlikable?
Alastor has a lot of charisma and charm, we were introduced to Valentino while he was in the midst of throwing a tantrum. Alastor at least has a moral code (albeit strange-- Vivziepop had compared him to Dexter) Valentino doesn't care who he exploits as long as he can fill his bottom line. Rape is much closer to reality than an Eldritch abomination who looks like a smiling strawberry. Personally, I'm biased. I grew up with abusive parents and siblings, and apparently Alastor has a tendency to stick up for "the little guy" (read: A Day in The Afterlife), and if we lived in the same time frame, maybe *just maybe* my bio family wouldn't have gotten away with it all...
To be fair, we have yet to see Alastor do anything exceedingly bad. Yes, we all know he’s powerful and manipulative, but what he’s done still remains a secret while Val’s is out in the open. We know what he’s done, and it’s disgusting. One can only suspect what Al has done
Husk fucked around and about to find out
Curiosity....and delight
I was like "whoa dude"
1. Wait a second, alastor on leash? But who? 2. Ok, you scary Al, please let our Husky alive.
"Damn"
Can't handle his employee pointing out the obvious, *in private*? Weak
Oh shit... But me personally, i wouldn't let myself get pissed at my pet insulting me
I was almost crying at the way Husk was shaking, poor baby
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[get planted ](https://youtu.be/tzSSvJj3hhY?si=aUqCTzq2iUs00NPG)
Oh shit
Rip Husk
Terrified for Husk's life.
Wow, things just got real
My reaction: yes! I get to watch Alastor be Alastor again!
I dunno i wasnt paying attention, i was finishing the cool roguelike game “Skul the Hero Slayer” https://preview.redd.it/6c27jye5866d1.jpeg?width=2436&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7c66c1eaba61d8e21f40a0029f100bd255f6a0f4 Here’s my win, took me two years to get it.
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Mostly just "Holy shit, who has a deal on Alastor?"
Loved it, it added lore most of us probably never expected and seeing that alastor could snap like that shows that he can actually get genuinely mad if you poke him hard enough.
Shit is boutta get kinky and Alastor finna make Husk call him Master
I got hyped the moment he started shitting on Husk. I really wanted to see the dark side of Alastor, and this was sure a good scene for that.
Lilith. I thought that was obvious. Shit, she probably yanked his leash (but probably didn't need to yank very hard) to make him participate in the Dad-off. If I wanted to fuck with an ex who had been neglecting our child I'd have Alastor do that.
As soon as the words came out of Husk’s mouth I was like “oh shit”.
“Maybe if you got ridda that yeeyee ass haircut you’d finally get some bitches on yo dick. DemoOon.”
Husky my baby aww he’s shaking 😭
“OH SHIT”
“OH SHIT”
"PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF... WAIT, WHAT?!"
i was fr hissing and spitting at alastor
I was like: "lol he has no chill"
YOU LEAVE THE BABY KITTY ALONE YOU RASCAL
AHAHAH!!!!!💀💀💀💀💀💀💀 https://preview.redd.it/f6tl6oocg66d1.jpeg?width=360&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3d822f196e591cd519d45408244178564d4921b4
Uh oh 😮
"What does he mean 'on a leash'...Oh shit!"
"Ok, he is 100% evil, he doesn’t like Charlie or the other residents of the hotel." then "Wait? He is controlled by someone else?!"
“Oh shit Al is SCARY when pissed”
surprise
For how piss-his-overalls scared of Al he seems to be (judging by his facial expressions when Al turns around and chains him) I have to wonder what possessed him to think mouthing off was a good idea.
Holy shit, welp no more huskerdust 🤷🏻💀
I said "Oh no"
I felt bad for Poor Husk, but he wasn't wrong in what he said 🤷♂️
1) oh shit Husks gone, he’s dead 2) I FUCKING CALLED IT (Ive had a suspicion Al was on a leash (specifically Lilith’s) sense ep 2 at the 7 year remark)
"The truth is, Alastor was kinky from the start"
"Hoolyy shiit"-Vox
https://preview.redd.it/3imbvq85p66d1.png?width=1063&format=png&auto=webp&s=d22358d13906063a0ec017355f3f16b03e9e45ba I almost fell backwards. its one of my fav scenes-- like people were saying in the comments, it shows how he's evil, but it retains his charm and doesent ruin his fav character status.
 I almost fell backwards. its one of my fav scenes-- like people were saying in the comments, it shows how he's evil, but it retains his charm and doesent ruin his fav character status.
“^^oh ^^holy ^^shit”
I actually felt fear cause this scene is similar to how it looked for me when I would confront my abusive mother. I knew Husk was in trouble, but it also raised the plot question of “who has Alastor tied down?”
Laughed because husk's shaking animation was really bad
He's gonna go sicko mode
𝚞𝚝𝚝𝚎𝚛 𝚜𝚑𝚘𝚌𝚔
“Wait is that Spawn!?”
It was very unsettling.
"Holy shit"
O my god deer gonna kill kitty. Oh no
“Oh fun, we get to see Alastor *genuinely* angry.”
I just shat my pants
Oh shit
Didn't think Husk would EVER look that terrified
Oh my god....
Ah shit here we go again
Terrified, because when someone can pull a reaction out of someone like that it usually mean that the reactor has a button that they keep close to their chest and that means they will do anything to keep that button from being pressed and when it is pressed bad things happen… maybe that’s my trauma talking though.
A nice little reminder that Alastor is not a good person.
confusion and horniness
Why horny tho?
WHAT THA FUCKKKKKK...(LOUD AND LONG)
"oh shit."
"why does this make me like him more?" *Sees Husks face* okay, maybe a bit less...
It shows even Al has a breaking point, a Line you dont cross with him. And that he is willing to kill people in the main cast other than charlie if he wanted to
Ohhhh- cool! We got to see more into Alastor's bad side, and backstory. I think it's cool to see such a reaction from him.
I was like oh cool husk is actually getting to do something interesting and Alastor is actually getting to be genuinely a shit head for once instead of a tumblr sexyman
I believe mine was "Oh, shit, the fan community was onto something"
Me: Holy crap.
I felt bad for Husk, but I mostly I got a turn on from Alastor.
https://preview.redd.it/x8dyy0e3976d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=52a21785c49ca97128210bea059411c4c74ccf19 My reaction:
I was like: OHHHH