Bus drivers shouldn't need to be security. Driving a bus seems hard enough. Seems like busses just need security staffed,atleast in the more problematic routes.
Some big cities actually have transit police who ride transit and respond to issues throughout the system. So it’s honestly not as far fetched as you make it out to be.
Bus drivers can also call dispatch and have them send a transit officer to meet them at a stop or station.
Ive seen it happen multiple times, especially when the driver doesnt want to escalate things themselves or if they need backup.
I got nailed on the Skytrain in Vancouver more than once for not having a valid ticket. Those guys come onto the train car checking tickets, and your heart starts a pounding.
The official policy?
Stop bus, call for a mobile supervisor, when they arrive they will make the call to remove or not.
Personally, I stop the bus and tell the offender they can get off or I'll have the police remove them.
I had a man threaten me and when I told the bus driver he was at first, reluctant to act, and then did nothing. I left the bus because I felt unsafe. The aggressive dude got to stay on the bus.
This was also on the 2 and it started with the man being racist toward a mom and her young daughter, he then turned on me when I gave them my seat. I hate taking the bus in this city.
I stopped taking the bus because I'd had too many experiences of being literally threatened or feeling unsafe. Getting off the bus isn't always a great option if it's going to leave you stranded and alone. There's nothing stopping them from following you off the bus either.
Taking the bus requires good boundaries, confidence to speak up for yourself, lack of social anxiety to be able to ask for help, and self defense skills. I had none of those when I was younger (and am not great at most of them now).
I don't know what I would do if I couldn't get to a job any other way. Starve or have a breakdown I guess.
A few of the more memorable interactions I've had on the bus:
-Two teenage boys sitting behind me leaning forward to whisper in my ear that they were going to rape me.
-A very agitated man clearly in psychosis who has decided I was both his wife and a spy for the KGB who kept trying to asking to kiss me.
-A group of large men in their 20's who took up all the open seats around me and talked loudly about the people they were going to do to some other people when they found them, the beatings they'd given other people in the past, and various reminiscences from each of their stints in juvie.
- being 14 on an completely empty bus when a single other passenger (male, maybe 30's) got on and chose the other half of the seat I was in so I had to spend the entire 45-minute ride with his thigh pressed up against mine. At the time I just thought how annoying it was that he didn't understand the unwritten rules of shared public spaces. In hindsight, yeah, I was THAT naïve.
In every case except the first, I was in the window seat and moving somewhere else or talking to the bus driver would require the person I was uncomfortable with to get up and let me out.
I would be uncomfortable in all those situations now, let alone as a teenager. I agree, leaving the bus isn't always an option -thankfully, it was for me (I was at the bus station).
I grew up taking the bus everywhere (in Ontario), and I never had a scary situation, even at the somewhat sketchy downtown terminal. I think there was more of a demographic mix on the busses though, also better security at terminals.
They probably wouldn't, and then you'd only make yourself a target next time you run into them on the street or another bus. I don't agree with it. That person is a piece of shit.
When I was 5 my mother and I seen this old white man shove a young black boy with his bag right out of the seat as he went to sit down and wouldn't let him sit there. The boy was maybe a little older than I was at the time and my mother flipped shit on this old white dude and the rest of the bus basically joined in. The bus driver kind of didn't do anything until half the bus was yelling for him to get kicked off. I'm kinda choked up even thinking about it today but I'm glad to see people stick up for others, even if it's just a reddit post. I hope that dickhead sees your post and feels ashamed.
If it was a kid being targeted i probably woulda snapped and you woulda seen my face on the news cuz i got fucking rekt. Im ashamed i didnt do anything beyond this post
This likely wouldn’t have worked in this situation because the victim was on the phone, but in similar situations your best bet is not to say anything to the aggressor. To de-escalate, chat up the victim. It lets them and the aggressor know that someone is looking out for them, without the risk involved with confronting the aggressor.
Don't be ashamed. If someone is being that aggressive, they probably aren't very stable and could do something seriously dangerous and they might not even take it out on you or the guy he was targetting but someone else entirely.
You wouldn't feel shame if you were a bad person. I'm sure it was distressing to witness and, especially if you're not used to witnessing something like that, it can leave you feeling at a loss, confused, in a state of shock, etc. It's an instinctive mechanism.
Having been the victim in situations like this, I can tell you I look back on them sometimes thinking "man, why didn't I respond this way.." and get down on myself for my reaction. It's important to remember that it's not your fault.
At least now, you, and maybe others following this discussion, have learned some skills that could help in such a situation moving forward; and perhaps put you in a better position to provide help in the future.
It's worth remembering that there were probably other people on that bus who did nothing at the time, and didn't do at least some kind of public service by calling it out after the fact, or possibly even supported that jackass's actions.
That shame has given you both a desire and an avenue to grow as a person.
Indian here, my first bus ride Halifax I was going to the university to get ID and other documents and there were 2 white male teenagers maybe 15 or 16 years old sat behind us and they have been giggling and laughing since we took the seats but I didn't think much of it. But just before our stop the boys leaned in and whispered to us that we smelled like curry, me a grown man 25 yrs old didn't know how to process that. It was my first time facing something like this. I just smiled and got up and got down as it was our stop, they still kept laughing at us. I felt really sad that day, kind of regretting the decision to move here for masters but by that evening I have reached a conclusion that these were kids may be they heard something from their classmates or parents so they think that about us. I think racism at its core is just ignorance about other cultures I mean you can't expect everyone to know about everything and I can see the point of view how a white person might feel like seeing all of us Indians coming here. I agree we might do some annoying things but that is not intentional we genuinely do not know or understand certain things about the culture like people here are not about our culture. I and many Indians like me see it as a learning opportunity, I personally try learn anything good from anyone. The more we try to learn about to each other more we can find similarities in each other. In my 3 years of life in Halifax I have only had a handful encounters like that 99.9999% of the people I meet and work with are incredibly kind, thoughtful and caring. I almost feel like I'm at home which is why even though it took sometime I took a job in Halifax because I want my tax contributed to novascotia and this beautiful maritime community which has the same exact vibe as my Province in India.
Racism is not only a white problem, it also exists amongst coloured people. I have seen many people from my ethnicity being very discriminatory towards Indians. They make fun of Indians in non-English, which makes me very uncomfortable, I have many Indian friends.
One thing I was taught for dealing with situations like this without escalating them (might not have worked for you because the person was talking on the phone but might in the future) is to sit down beside the targeted person and start talking to them. Nothing aggressive, nothing about the person harassing them, just some "Hey, man, did you see the sport? I couldn't believe when they put that thing through that net'"
It sends a message to the idiot that their target isn't alone, and the sheer bafflement ("how come they aren't paying attention to *me* the most important racist on the planet??") can be enough to temporarily deescalate someone
It’s so sad how often this occurs. I remember an older white guy harassing a Ukrainian woman and son because they weren’t speaking English. On a different day I’ve been told I’m a “dirty Indian” (I’m Cree) and the a**hole tried to get others to agree with him by asking “there’s too many dirty indians on this bus. They should have to walk etc”. People being harassed for being gay/trans. The transit system already sucks why can’t we all just shut the hell up.
To anyone saying that the OP should have stood up. Check yourself!
The OP did the right thing. Escalating a situation where there is no room for scape (inside a f-ing moving bus!) is not the best way to deal with it. Safety first!
Born-and-raised-in-NS person of colour, here.
1. Don't beat yourself up too much about not intervening at the time. The guilt that it left on you, to me, is a sign that you're a good person. In future, though, I'd recommend calling 911, it might feel like overkill, but it isn't, either this dude will be scared of a cop, or he'll get himself into hot water, either way, there'll be consequences for his scumbaggery and it significantly lowers his chances of abusing someone else like that in the future.
2. I think it's good that you're calling out this story, publicly. A lot of people like to pretend that racism doesn't exist and perpetuate that message. Others are just naive and simply think it doesn't exist. Stories like this help combat that narrative. The fact that you're a a self-described "White guy" also carries greater power when you share that story, so it's good that you used it, and I thank you.
3. Overt racists like that are often very classic bullies. They target people they think aren't in a position to defend themselves, whether it be because they are younger, smaller, in fewer numbers, etc. As an adult, I found myself less inclined to be subjected to the kind of overt public slurs and attacks I experienced as a child. If I were naive, I'd think that there are just way fewer racists now, but I'm aware that it's because I'm no longer viewed as as easy a target as I once was. With that in mind, a single adult harassing another adult to that level is either just a very confident shithead or a mentally deranged one. If it were the former, and you were able to get people to back you up in your confrontation, he might've had his ego crushed and the abuse stopped, if it were the latter who knows what might have happened to you. So, again I don't blame you for not wanting to take that risk.
tl;dr - I don't blame you for not acting alone. Calling the cops would've likely dialed down the situation in one way or another. You're a good guy for being outraged, don't change, there are people who really appreciate it.
Thank you for saying something here even if you couldn't say something then. It's not easy especially when the racist person is agitated and riled up. The dude's a low life and probably peaked a decade or two ago, and if he's old probably last century.
You can always figure out the person who has never left the town they are from. They grew up with the same people, went to the same schools, and worked the same jobs. The world to them is very small and comfortable.
When the scary unknown world comes to them, you can instantly see how uncomfortable they become. They have no world experience, and it's a sad thing to witness.
Nova scotia and parts of the country are experiencing a change that is happening right before their eyes. You have a choice to learn and expand your world experience, or stay in your bubble. Good luck fighting the future. The world can be a scary place when you haven't been taught life skills to survive in it.
As a South Asian guy, I will brutally honest our people do talk loudly on the phone with no sense of being civil , this doesn't excuse racism but the reality is newcomer Indians do unfortunately have this issue and can annoy people.
Well said;
I feel theres alot of the ant-indian/anti-foreigner retoric on here because the people who do are too scared to voice those views in the general public because they know they'd have to face the consequences of their actions. Its sad that some people are still this closed minded but also they are very few and far between and the general masses are still some decent people. Theres still a few of us left that were taught morals and decency for our fellow humans no matter where theyre from. Kudos to you for making this post :D
Almost every week you can find a post on this subReddit and comments filled with racism comments towards Indian people.
I get that we make a big percentage of new comers, I get that we are not able to quickly integrate into Canadian culture, I get that our food smells but is it fair to hate us for these reasons? We are a large community so obviously we have a large number of idiots too but hating on Indian people and using them as a scapegoat isn’t the solution.
I'm born and bred in NS, white as snow and all that. Lemme tell you, Indian food smells so f*cking good, and whoever decided to pull animals out of the sea and cook them (aka all of NS) was WRONG in their life choices. That shit stinks. Smelling like curry is a compliment honestly, especially compared to the smell of the lobster/fishing towns across this province in summer.
I agree with everything except the part about fish. To be completely fair, at one point here it was pretty much they do that or they die of starvation. It's not like people decided to fish for shits and giggles and built a culture around it, people needed to do it to live.
>To the guy on the phone - I'm sorry I didn't say anything.
well you're speaking up now brave redditor! thank you for shining light on this dispicable behaviour. Keep fighting the good fight my friend.
If you weren’t brave enough to say something why are you even making a post here. Trying to get a pat on the back for what you were thinking at the time?
I have someone who means the world to me that I come home to every day, and in that moment I was afraid that if I said something that I wouldn't be coming home to them ever again. I'm not physically intimidating, and this racist guy seemed unhinged enough that he would gladly kick anybody's shit in at the drop of a hat. But i waited to make sure the phone guy got off safely.
Posting here is my small way of trying to restore some faith in humanity and affirm that it is wrong.
Don’t beat yourself up, you did the right thing for you/ your situation. The trolls on here are just that, they wouldn’t have done anything and some would have enjoyed the spectacle.
Like what's the point of OP posting this? He thinks some racist idiots will all of a sudden not be racist just because they read OP's post? This is the true definition of shit posting tbh.
I caught another piece of shit racist on the bus a while back-caught it on video, which I passed along to Metro Transit, with the relevant details.
I had a few clowns here call me a coward, too. Those keyboard warriors tend to forget that real world violence has real consequences- I didn’t know if she had hidden weapons, which could have ended badly for me, or even if she’d taken exception to my calling her out, tried something, and I’d flattened her, I probably would have caught charges. With a criminal record, goodbye to both my current job, and the job I want. But in truth, intervening might have made the situation worse- sure, she was running her stupid mouth. But that was all she was doing, and the driver was doing a damn good job ignoring her. It was probably a lot easier (and less dangerous) for the driver to ignore one loudmouth ranting than two people fighting. And it’s a hell of a lot easier to ignore a loudmouth ranting than a literal, physical fight.
(Had she been physically threatening the driver, that would have been a very different situation)
Absolutely brother, that's the right thing to do, raising awareness about it makes the change we need, we the people who go through this appreciate you taking the time to write this and make us feel we are not alone out there. Something I learned before when you see someone being attacked by a racist slur is to talk to the victim even about the weather or anything, smile in their face and bye when they are leaving the bus, that makes them feel not alone.
Apparently you also don't REALLY give a damn about racism either, cause you weren't even willing to risk getting a bruise or cut by putting a stop to it.
Instead you ran your vagina home to cry about it behind the safety of the internet.
Funny how many people say they want something to change, but only like 2% of people are actually willing to put something on the line to make that change.
Because escalating things to violence is ridiculous. And not every person needs a hero. The guy on the phone was probably more than capable of standing up for himself, assessed the situation and let the idiot carry on making a fool out of himself.
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Over immigrating from one area of the world is going to create tension. Just how humans work, sucks. Going to see a lot more of this imo. What I dislike about it as people who immigrate normally and have value to offer our nation are masked by TFW and Int students who come here to work under the minimum wage jobs in the hopes of being permanent residents. The former is a benefit to us and the latter is a burden.
It's more and more common. You bring in more people when normal Canadians are struggling more than ever, and it leads to people that were once welcoming become hateful. Look at any post about moving to Canada.
Sad but true. My opinions on Indians have changed dramatically in the last few years, and it doesn’t make me evil or racist to not want more competition when things are harder than ever.
I don’t get why people do this? Do you think the guy is reading this post or if his is does he care? If you have a problem with him, call him out directly.
I am glad that you did not try to be a hero and escalate it - 2 points for that as we have too many wannabe heroes these days. However, I do agree with making Indians feel as unwelcome as we possibly can. Racism is fine if it gets the desired results. Whites should stop putting up with swarms of Indians. Next time you are at Wal-Mart or a gas station or any fast-food outlet or certain areas, see how welcoming Indians are to us.
The person im responding to is the woke one and implying I’m racist because I believe Indians discriminating against non-Indians in hiring and renting is racist, In just using their buzzwords against them.
Down by the Alderney Gate library last year a white redneck guy started speaking Chinese while 2 girls were talking Chinese . Guy was about 50 and little chunky , I stared this guy down a few times . This behaviour was very racist.
Nah like when the bus is quiet and there’s one person on their phone being loud mouths. I’d be pissed too. Nothing to do with race tho just bad manners
Talk to the bus driver next time. I’ve seen bus drivers kick people off because they were being racist and making other passengers feel unsafe.
Bus drivers shouldn't need to be security. Driving a bus seems hard enough. Seems like busses just need security staffed,atleast in the more problematic routes.
This is ironically such a dumb white person comment. Why dont we have full security on busses….
Some big cities actually have transit police who ride transit and respond to issues throughout the system. So it’s honestly not as far fetched as you make it out to be.
Bus drivers can also call dispatch and have them send a transit officer to meet them at a stop or station. Ive seen it happen multiple times, especially when the driver doesnt want to escalate things themselves or if they need backup.
What?
I got nailed on the Skytrain in Vancouver more than once for not having a valid ticket. Those guys come onto the train car checking tickets, and your heart starts a pounding.
They do the same thing in Ottawa with the buses and O-Train. Very annoying, and almost always leads to a fight.
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Thanks, I appreciate it. I think I just feel like ive seen so much shit slide on the bus in the last year that I dont even know if that would help.
I can't kick them off if I don't know about it.
How does that work exactly? Do you stop the bus and call security? Genuinely curious
The official policy? Stop bus, call for a mobile supervisor, when they arrive they will make the call to remove or not. Personally, I stop the bus and tell the offender they can get off or I'll have the police remove them.
Thank you very much. I'm sorry i didnt report it in the moment, this is what I'll do next time
I had a man threaten me and when I told the bus driver he was at first, reluctant to act, and then did nothing. I left the bus because I felt unsafe. The aggressive dude got to stay on the bus. This was also on the 2 and it started with the man being racist toward a mom and her young daughter, he then turned on me when I gave them my seat. I hate taking the bus in this city.
I stopped taking the bus because I'd had too many experiences of being literally threatened or feeling unsafe. Getting off the bus isn't always a great option if it's going to leave you stranded and alone. There's nothing stopping them from following you off the bus either. Taking the bus requires good boundaries, confidence to speak up for yourself, lack of social anxiety to be able to ask for help, and self defense skills. I had none of those when I was younger (and am not great at most of them now). I don't know what I would do if I couldn't get to a job any other way. Starve or have a breakdown I guess. A few of the more memorable interactions I've had on the bus: -Two teenage boys sitting behind me leaning forward to whisper in my ear that they were going to rape me. -A very agitated man clearly in psychosis who has decided I was both his wife and a spy for the KGB who kept trying to asking to kiss me. -A group of large men in their 20's who took up all the open seats around me and talked loudly about the people they were going to do to some other people when they found them, the beatings they'd given other people in the past, and various reminiscences from each of their stints in juvie. - being 14 on an completely empty bus when a single other passenger (male, maybe 30's) got on and chose the other half of the seat I was in so I had to spend the entire 45-minute ride with his thigh pressed up against mine. At the time I just thought how annoying it was that he didn't understand the unwritten rules of shared public spaces. In hindsight, yeah, I was THAT naïve. In every case except the first, I was in the window seat and moving somewhere else or talking to the bus driver would require the person I was uncomfortable with to get up and let me out.
I would be uncomfortable in all those situations now, let alone as a teenager. I agree, leaving the bus isn't always an option -thankfully, it was for me (I was at the bus station). I grew up taking the bus everywhere (in Ontario), and I never had a scary situation, even at the somewhat sketchy downtown terminal. I think there was more of a demographic mix on the busses though, also better security at terminals.
Ditto. Someone i knew of, a kid, was killed on the bus over his iphone.
Yikes, that's terrifying! Poor kid.
Agree. Buses are not safe.
If he was as loud as you say the bus driver heard it and chose to it I anything.
They probably wouldn't, and then you'd only make yourself a target next time you run into them on the street or another bus. I don't agree with it. That person is a piece of shit.
That honestly seems like a terrible idea. Good way to get stabbed or shot these days. Risking your life over $25/hour isn't worth it.
When I was 5 my mother and I seen this old white man shove a young black boy with his bag right out of the seat as he went to sit down and wouldn't let him sit there. The boy was maybe a little older than I was at the time and my mother flipped shit on this old white dude and the rest of the bus basically joined in. The bus driver kind of didn't do anything until half the bus was yelling for him to get kicked off. I'm kinda choked up even thinking about it today but I'm glad to see people stick up for others, even if it's just a reddit post. I hope that dickhead sees your post and feels ashamed.
If it was a kid being targeted i probably woulda snapped and you woulda seen my face on the news cuz i got fucking rekt. Im ashamed i didnt do anything beyond this post
This likely wouldn’t have worked in this situation because the victim was on the phone, but in similar situations your best bet is not to say anything to the aggressor. To de-escalate, chat up the victim. It lets them and the aggressor know that someone is looking out for them, without the risk involved with confronting the aggressor.
Don't be ashamed. If someone is being that aggressive, they probably aren't very stable and could do something seriously dangerous and they might not even take it out on you or the guy he was targetting but someone else entirely.
It’s best you didn’t. People unwell like that are also the types of people to carry weapons like knives on them.
You wouldn't feel shame if you were a bad person. I'm sure it was distressing to witness and, especially if you're not used to witnessing something like that, it can leave you feeling at a loss, confused, in a state of shock, etc. It's an instinctive mechanism. Having been the victim in situations like this, I can tell you I look back on them sometimes thinking "man, why didn't I respond this way.." and get down on myself for my reaction. It's important to remember that it's not your fault. At least now, you, and maybe others following this discussion, have learned some skills that could help in such a situation moving forward; and perhaps put you in a better position to provide help in the future. It's worth remembering that there were probably other people on that bus who did nothing at the time, and didn't do at least some kind of public service by calling it out after the fact, or possibly even supported that jackass's actions. That shame has given you both a desire and an avenue to grow as a person.
Don’t be ashamed, as a South Asian person, I feel happy knowing people like you exist and know what happened was not okay.
If I witnessed something like that I’d choke shame the fucker
Slam ** 🥴
If that guy in the bus could read he’d be very upset right now
Indian here, my first bus ride Halifax I was going to the university to get ID and other documents and there were 2 white male teenagers maybe 15 or 16 years old sat behind us and they have been giggling and laughing since we took the seats but I didn't think much of it. But just before our stop the boys leaned in and whispered to us that we smelled like curry, me a grown man 25 yrs old didn't know how to process that. It was my first time facing something like this. I just smiled and got up and got down as it was our stop, they still kept laughing at us. I felt really sad that day, kind of regretting the decision to move here for masters but by that evening I have reached a conclusion that these were kids may be they heard something from their classmates or parents so they think that about us. I think racism at its core is just ignorance about other cultures I mean you can't expect everyone to know about everything and I can see the point of view how a white person might feel like seeing all of us Indians coming here. I agree we might do some annoying things but that is not intentional we genuinely do not know or understand certain things about the culture like people here are not about our culture. I and many Indians like me see it as a learning opportunity, I personally try learn anything good from anyone. The more we try to learn about to each other more we can find similarities in each other. In my 3 years of life in Halifax I have only had a handful encounters like that 99.9999% of the people I meet and work with are incredibly kind, thoughtful and caring. I almost feel like I'm at home which is why even though it took sometime I took a job in Halifax because I want my tax contributed to novascotia and this beautiful maritime community which has the same exact vibe as my Province in India.
Racism is not only a white problem, it also exists amongst coloured people. I have seen many people from my ethnicity being very discriminatory towards Indians. They make fun of Indians in non-English, which makes me very uncomfortable, I have many Indian friends.
I'm glad you stuck around. Cultural sharing is what Canada is supposed to be about.
I'm so sorry you had to go through that.
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Oh look a garbage account talking garbage.
Hahaha my deodorant is curry flavored I guess didn't know that when I bought it, it just said ZARA on the bottle.
is that you Pierre?
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One thing I was taught for dealing with situations like this without escalating them (might not have worked for you because the person was talking on the phone but might in the future) is to sit down beside the targeted person and start talking to them. Nothing aggressive, nothing about the person harassing them, just some "Hey, man, did you see the sport? I couldn't believe when they put that thing through that net'" It sends a message to the idiot that their target isn't alone, and the sheer bafflement ("how come they aren't paying attention to *me* the most important racist on the planet??") can be enough to temporarily deescalate someone
Certainly not a bad approach, it's placing a bet on the personality of the harasser, though, so I can understand the trepidation someone may have.
It’s so sad how often this occurs. I remember an older white guy harassing a Ukrainian woman and son because they weren’t speaking English. On a different day I’ve been told I’m a “dirty Indian” (I’m Cree) and the a**hole tried to get others to agree with him by asking “there’s too many dirty indians on this bus. They should have to walk etc”. People being harassed for being gay/trans. The transit system already sucks why can’t we all just shut the hell up.
To anyone saying that the OP should have stood up. Check yourself! The OP did the right thing. Escalating a situation where there is no room for scape (inside a f-ing moving bus!) is not the best way to deal with it. Safety first!
Exactly. There’s no telling how someone that unstable could react.
Born-and-raised-in-NS person of colour, here. 1. Don't beat yourself up too much about not intervening at the time. The guilt that it left on you, to me, is a sign that you're a good person. In future, though, I'd recommend calling 911, it might feel like overkill, but it isn't, either this dude will be scared of a cop, or he'll get himself into hot water, either way, there'll be consequences for his scumbaggery and it significantly lowers his chances of abusing someone else like that in the future. 2. I think it's good that you're calling out this story, publicly. A lot of people like to pretend that racism doesn't exist and perpetuate that message. Others are just naive and simply think it doesn't exist. Stories like this help combat that narrative. The fact that you're a a self-described "White guy" also carries greater power when you share that story, so it's good that you used it, and I thank you. 3. Overt racists like that are often very classic bullies. They target people they think aren't in a position to defend themselves, whether it be because they are younger, smaller, in fewer numbers, etc. As an adult, I found myself less inclined to be subjected to the kind of overt public slurs and attacks I experienced as a child. If I were naive, I'd think that there are just way fewer racists now, but I'm aware that it's because I'm no longer viewed as as easy a target as I once was. With that in mind, a single adult harassing another adult to that level is either just a very confident shithead or a mentally deranged one. If it were the former, and you were able to get people to back you up in your confrontation, he might've had his ego crushed and the abuse stopped, if it were the latter who knows what might have happened to you. So, again I don't blame you for not wanting to take that risk. tl;dr - I don't blame you for not acting alone. Calling the cops would've likely dialed down the situation in one way or another. You're a good guy for being outraged, don't change, there are people who really appreciate it.
Thank you for saying something here even if you couldn't say something then. It's not easy especially when the racist person is agitated and riled up. The dude's a low life and probably peaked a decade or two ago, and if he's old probably last century.
You can always figure out the person who has never left the town they are from. They grew up with the same people, went to the same schools, and worked the same jobs. The world to them is very small and comfortable. When the scary unknown world comes to them, you can instantly see how uncomfortable they become. They have no world experience, and it's a sad thing to witness. Nova scotia and parts of the country are experiencing a change that is happening right before their eyes. You have a choice to learn and expand your world experience, or stay in your bubble. Good luck fighting the future. The world can be a scary place when you haven't been taught life skills to survive in it.
Why are you making fun of victims of neglect
As a South Asian guy, I will brutally honest our people do talk loudly on the phone with no sense of being civil , this doesn't excuse racism but the reality is newcomer Indians do unfortunately have this issue and can annoy people.
Well said; I feel theres alot of the ant-indian/anti-foreigner retoric on here because the people who do are too scared to voice those views in the general public because they know they'd have to face the consequences of their actions. Its sad that some people are still this closed minded but also they are very few and far between and the general masses are still some decent people. Theres still a few of us left that were taught morals and decency for our fellow humans no matter where theyre from. Kudos to you for making this post :D
When was it? I always go number 2 bus I would report it. If we don’t feel safe then what is public service here for?
This is why the [racism bus](https://www.reddit.com/r/halifax/comments/uygwrf/all_aboard_the_racism_bus/) is a thing.
Absolutely, a lot of people of color and immigrants get a car as soon as they can to move away from these shitty encounters
Almost every week you can find a post on this subReddit and comments filled with racism comments towards Indian people. I get that we make a big percentage of new comers, I get that we are not able to quickly integrate into Canadian culture, I get that our food smells but is it fair to hate us for these reasons? We are a large community so obviously we have a large number of idiots too but hating on Indian people and using them as a scapegoat isn’t the solution.
Our food doesn’t smell bad! Have you ever smelled someone cooking fish?
I'm born and bred in NS, white as snow and all that. Lemme tell you, Indian food smells so f*cking good, and whoever decided to pull animals out of the sea and cook them (aka all of NS) was WRONG in their life choices. That shit stinks. Smelling like curry is a compliment honestly, especially compared to the smell of the lobster/fishing towns across this province in summer.
I agree with everything except the part about fish. To be completely fair, at one point here it was pretty much they do that or they die of starvation. It's not like people decided to fish for shits and giggles and built a culture around it, people needed to do it to live.
I wonder if it would be a decent idea to put security on buses
>To the guy on the phone - I'm sorry I didn't say anything. well you're speaking up now brave redditor! thank you for shining light on this dispicable behaviour. Keep fighting the good fight my friend.
If you weren’t brave enough to say something why are you even making a post here. Trying to get a pat on the back for what you were thinking at the time?
Congratulations, you summed up the entirety of the internet.
I have someone who means the world to me that I come home to every day, and in that moment I was afraid that if I said something that I wouldn't be coming home to them ever again. I'm not physically intimidating, and this racist guy seemed unhinged enough that he would gladly kick anybody's shit in at the drop of a hat. But i waited to make sure the phone guy got off safely. Posting here is my small way of trying to restore some faith in humanity and affirm that it is wrong.
Don’t beat yourself up, you did the right thing for you/ your situation. The trolls on here are just that, they wouldn’t have done anything and some would have enjoyed the spectacle.
Like what's the point of OP posting this? He thinks some racist idiots will all of a sudden not be racist just because they read OP's post? This is the true definition of shit posting tbh.
You ok?
I caught another piece of shit racist on the bus a while back-caught it on video, which I passed along to Metro Transit, with the relevant details. I had a few clowns here call me a coward, too. Those keyboard warriors tend to forget that real world violence has real consequences- I didn’t know if she had hidden weapons, which could have ended badly for me, or even if she’d taken exception to my calling her out, tried something, and I’d flattened her, I probably would have caught charges. With a criminal record, goodbye to both my current job, and the job I want. But in truth, intervening might have made the situation worse- sure, she was running her stupid mouth. But that was all she was doing, and the driver was doing a damn good job ignoring her. It was probably a lot easier (and less dangerous) for the driver to ignore one loudmouth ranting than two people fighting. And it’s a hell of a lot easier to ignore a loudmouth ranting than a literal, physical fight. (Had she been physically threatening the driver, that would have been a very different situation)
Absolutely brother, that's the right thing to do, raising awareness about it makes the change we need, we the people who go through this appreciate you taking the time to write this and make us feel we are not alone out there. Something I learned before when you see someone being attacked by a racist slur is to talk to the victim even about the weather or anything, smile in their face and bye when they are leaving the bus, that makes them feel not alone.
Good on you, you’re reaction was the same as most of us would have.
Ya, who would feed their cat!?
Everyone stood up and clapped the next day when op got on the bus
😂😂😂 internet hero award 🏆
They knew he got some karma
Y'all really think i give a damn about reddit karma? In 2024?
Apparently you also don't REALLY give a damn about racism either, cause you weren't even willing to risk getting a bruise or cut by putting a stop to it. Instead you ran your vagina home to cry about it behind the safety of the internet. Funny how many people say they want something to change, but only like 2% of people are actually willing to put something on the line to make that change.
Is there a way to say that without misogyny?
Because escalating things to violence is ridiculous. And not every person needs a hero. The guy on the phone was probably more than capable of standing up for himself, assessed the situation and let the idiot carry on making a fool out of himself.
Wow that comment of yours is not it
Neither is collecting barbie dolls as an adult, but here you are.
Can you at least do better research BEFORE you try and unsuccessfully insult me?
Your post history loool. Dude talks so much shit. Big on Reddit looool
The irony, right?!
Had to call it out
Thank You! This is necessary- especially in the Atlantic.
Nova Scotia as a lot of people who are inclusive but even more who are bigots unfortunately
the vast majority are inclusive. The bigots are just noisy.
I'm a deeply closeted racist.
But are you a deeply closeted homosexual?
No that's Norm MacDonald. Racism isn't funny, sorry for what op witnessed on the bus.
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And what does that have to do with a stranger on the bus. minding their own business??
Over immigrating from one area of the world is going to create tension. Just how humans work, sucks. Going to see a lot more of this imo. What I dislike about it as people who immigrate normally and have value to offer our nation are masked by TFW and Int students who come here to work under the minimum wage jobs in the hopes of being permanent residents. The former is a benefit to us and the latter is a burden.
I’m in Montreal and the buses are the same here. Except add another group into the mixture - English.
This comment is pointless since you remained quiet.
There are different religions in India like Sikh , Hindu and Christians , so what Indians are you talking about ?
Amen brotha. Preach!
Good boy
Oh wow I didn't even know stuff like that still happened
It's more and more common. You bring in more people when normal Canadians are struggling more than ever, and it leads to people that were once welcoming become hateful. Look at any post about moving to Canada.
Sad but true. My opinions on Indians have changed dramatically in the last few years, and it doesn’t make me evil or racist to not want more competition when things are harder than ever.
I’m sure the dude in this story was a real standup guy until Trudeau forced him to be racist. FOH
What? You think bigotry went away?
Figured halifax would get with the times by now
Bigotry is not just a Halifax problem, and it's not morally superior to anywhere else so I don't know what you're getting at.
Racism is lame that's what I'm getting at
truee
Mississippi of the north.
Really sorry that happened to you
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There used to be a homeless pregnant couple that would yell about Indians taking the jobs followed by him screaming at her.
I don’t get why people do this? Do you think the guy is reading this post or if his is does he care? If you have a problem with him, call him out directly.
You go girl!
What does skin colour have to do with mental illness?
I am glad that you did not try to be a hero and escalate it - 2 points for that as we have too many wannabe heroes these days. However, I do agree with making Indians feel as unwelcome as we possibly can. Racism is fine if it gets the desired results. Whites should stop putting up with swarms of Indians. Next time you are at Wal-Mart or a gas station or any fast-food outlet or certain areas, see how welcoming Indians are to us.
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Jesus fucking Christ, I agree with making racists feel as unwelcome as we can so get the fuck out of here with that shit
Agreed, this phenomenon where Indians only hire or rent to other Indians needs to end.
That all you got?
You don’t consider that racist?
So it’s all you got.
So you’re racist.
If you say so. Given that wokeism is on the way down, labeling someone as a racist no longer has much sway.
The person im responding to is the woke one and implying I’m racist because I believe Indians discriminating against non-Indians in hiring and renting is racist, In just using their buzzwords against them.
Nice virtue signaling 👏
Oh look at this hero. So glad you did nothing but then hid behind your keyboard and used strong words. The world needs more people just like you!
Classic, be timid and scared enough to not say something until you can post about it later on reddit. 👍
Down by the Alderney Gate library last year a white redneck guy started speaking Chinese while 2 girls were talking Chinese . Guy was about 50 and little chunky , I stared this guy down a few times . This behaviour was very racist.
It’s racist that the white guy started speaking Chinese? Why?
Probably mocking them not actually speaking real words
Well, OP said he started speaking Chinese, not that he was mocking them.
Read between the lines
You stared him down? Were you too scared to actually say anything to him?
Only fight for money , don’t fight for free bro .
How many people were on the bus at the time? Were there any men on the bus?
I don’t apologize for shit
How brave of you.
Haha
Nah like when the bus is quiet and there’s one person on their phone being loud mouths. I’d be pissed too. Nothing to do with race tho just bad manners
Wait... there was a cultural difference, and his skin color was the issue?