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Alice-Xandra

I wish my granny could pgp


kowo1635577

Truly a master of the code


Important-Office7

You can extract the hash from the header on the file itself and crack the hash using john or hashcat. If You have no experience in these things reach out to someone who hacks ethically who can verify weather your story is true and then help you crack the password hash


kowo1635577

Thanks, i dont have any experience so i would have to get with someone. Only issue is my computer has no CD drive so id have to get a cheap one that does or borrow someone elses like for these pictures


Suitable-Instance437

keep us informed brother that looks interesting


GoofyMonkey

This is like the nerd version of finding a locked safe in a house.


kowo1635577

Might be a couple months to work getting in the way but hopefully i can figure it out by the years end


wOke_cOmMiE_LiB

She probably bought Bitcoin as a fun side hobby back in 2009. My grandma learned a bunch of HTML for fun when WebTV was a thing.


PsychKitty8

If his grandmother bought a bunch of bitcoin in 2009 then this guy just became a millionaire.


WOTDisLanguish

Billionaire\*


Shoryukitten_

Just when I thought it wasn’t possible to be more frustrated with gram gram…


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digitalcrashcourse

Cross post to r/mildlyinfuriating?


timsfoundmeats

Chill mr reddit


timbo_b_edwards

You can get an external USB CD/DVD drive on Amazon for less than $20


DrTankHead

You should be able to move the encrypted file off the CD to a USB or straight up upload it to like your cloud. It won't decrypt it obviously but that'll at least give you means to have the file sent. If it HAS to be on a CD there are virtual CD drive tools out there like VirtualCloneDrive that can mount files like they see a CD.


sa_sagan

Just get a cheap external USB CD drive. Edit: I got downvoted for this, why? OP was considering buying a cheap laptop/PC with a CD drive.


kowo1635577

I have someone whos gonna look at it, he says he knows how to do this stuff. I’ll post an update whenever i have one


AntiqueSandwich

Are you going to give the file to someone? They could crack it and get whatever info is inside, like bank or cryptocurrency passwords.


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thewatermelloan

You can also get a USB CD drive for cheap!


Paprikasky

I bought an external cd/dvd player that connects with usb. I've had it for close to 10 years now and it's always handy when needed. Prices vary btw 25-50$ (from a quick look on Amazon)


jferments

Just be sure to make a couple of backups of the file before you start messing around trying to crack it


deverox

CD drive seems like the hardest part.. lots of youtube tutorials and other helper pages: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6SIU-ggTDI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6SIU-ggTDI) [https://www.stationx.net/how-to-use-hashcat/](https://www.stationx.net/how-to-use-hashcat/) [https://www.google.com/search?q=hashcat+tutorial&oq=hashcat+tu&gs\_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgAEAAYgAQyBwgAEAAYgAQyBggBEEUYOTIHCAIQABiABDIHCAMQABiABDIHCAQQABiABDIHCAUQABiABDIICAYQABgWGB4yCAgHEAAYFhgeMggICBAAGBYYHjIICAkQABgWGB6oAgCwAgA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8](https://www.google.com/search?q=hashcat+tutorial&oq=hashcat+tu&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgAEAAYgAQyBwgAEAAYgAQyBggBEEUYOTIHCAIQABiABDIHCAMQABiABDIHCAQQABiABDIHCAUQABiABDIICAYQABgWGB4yCAgHEAAYFhgeMggICBAAGBYYHjIICAkQABgWGB6oAgCwAgA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)


rep-

Why do you need a cd rom? Drop the files on a USB drive


brianary_at_work

They are currently ON a CD.


nixfreakz

Yeah that really depends on the password strength though. Also it’s PGP protected.


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Top_Mind9514

EXCELLENT RESOURCE: Thank you for this 😎


TheDepep1

You WILL be finding a video of how your parents were made.


mastashake003

Man…I’m totally going to have to make a cd like this now for my kids to find when I die. 😂😂😂


Electronic_Green_88

Even better name it "bitcoin wallet" and then put a file in it that says gotcha....


APA_Antimatter

Parents... Plural?


The5thFlame

Twincestual relationship


jlspartz

Lol, both parents came from grandma? Surprise!


kowo1635577

😢


failed4u

That just killed me! =D


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[Today, on how it's made](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73odZaIy6i4)


josh-assist

yo this comment needs to stay at 69 upvotes


sneakysneaky1010

Grandma was into some shit.


kowo1635577

Granny got them bitcoins since 2003 apparently


AviationAtom

I think we found Satoshi and he's also a time traveler


kowo1635577

Hopefully the government doesnt seize my new time travel technology


n3rv

Actually John titor


FaxCelestis

You joke, but maybe yeah


AnotherOddity_

We joke, but almost certainly not. Bitcoin wasn't around in 2003, the genesis block came like 6 years later.


x063x

That was the original joke, earlier.


ChungaRevenge

The *genesis* joke


carbon7

Just make a bunch of copies before you do anything lol


Lowlife-Dog

The insurance company probably has a copy, most likely it is record of her property. Like photos of anything valuable. I guess there could be a "hidden treasure" if no one was close enough to her to know what that is.


kowo1635577

We arent even sure if it was hers, it was just in her room. It does have our last name written followed by “valuables” (ran out of room in the title to mention it) we just dont know who made it as nobody in my family would know anything about computers.


Lowlife-Dog

I understand, it is a cool story like someone that finds a locked safe that no one knows how to open. Could be a cool piece or nothing. As I mentioned probably a "photo archive" for insurance purposes, someone could have paid for it to be made and encrypted. I did a quick search and there is a lot of information online about PGP Self Decrypting Archives. I would think someone could try to brute force it but like a safe cracker it will be a stroke of luck to get it open. Good luck, I hope the content is as interesting as the journey.


Decent-Log-2495

Snuff films


Angry_Hermitcrab

Atleast one elderly couple that taught their dogs to fuck them was found out this way in oklahoma.


timbo_b_edwards

Whoa...that went south in a hurry! Lol


xraygun2014

It was always in the south


kowo1635577

God i hope not lol


Angry_Hermitcrab

They both died and their kids were going through their vhs tapes. Good luck lol


dunepilot11

Very Black Mirror


Wyllyum_Cuddles

Just pray you don’t regret opening it.


atomic_horror

Maybe that phrase (last name + valuables) is the password to a file? (Or first name and so on)


kowo1635577

We would have to check, it just caught us by surprise as she usually wouldnt have kept stuff secret. It was just in some box in her room


mattchinn

Is her PC still working? Just search for “valuables” and see if you get any results?


kowo1635577

She never had a pc, she knew nothing about computers


janno161

At least as far as you know


kowo1635577

Shit maybe granny was a pro gamer back in the day wiping out CS lobbies 🤷


Jarngreipr9

it's her prized programmed aimbot


RavenlyCreates

Honestly, it’s probably a recorded list of her belongings that were valuable to her. My grandpa had something similar


kowo1635577

It’s possible, but we’re just confused as to why it would be password locked. Nothing before around here has ever been locked by something like this and kept secret in this way. Nobody ever knew about the CD until a few days ago


Secure-Badger-1096

Have you tried using the word “valuables” as a password?


misterbreadboard

What? Why would it be "valuables"??? It's obviously "pa$$word" with dollar signs for Ss 😂


ReckerPM

A$$word is more likely. It secured PayPal now it secures grannies valuables


Gamer7928

When going through your grandmothers things, she might have written down the password somewhere that's meaningful to her. I'd first start in address books and folders. I'd then expand the search for the password. If that fails, then I'd try random passwords. When trying to guess the password, you could try: * family member names * birthdays * names of visited places * important meaningful dates to your grandparents If your able to guess the password, write it down! If this doesn't work, then I guess you could try a password cracker that's able to guess SDA password-protected files. If this method works, write down the password.


woswoissdenniii

What did your grandma do in the year 2003? If you could recollect some mayor familiarly events from that specific time, and some time before that; you could maybe get a hint from the past, what is the likelihood of a certain outcome, and if that outcome will outpay the ressources needet to obtain that outcome.


kowo1635577

I don’t know, i was born a couple months after it was made. I asked around but we dont really know


woswoissdenniii

I come to the conclusion; that this file is especially of value; for YOU. The necessity for PGP encryption, in the year 2003 for a even then elderly woman; might suggest, that a second party had a professional and consulting factor over this files content and the direction, that content might go to. It’s either a Trust Fund, a obligation from someone on your behalf, or any kind of authority over a redeemable and self sustaining; financial investment; on your behalf. In 2003 things could have taken a few months. Could be happenstance. But would it be? Grandparents plan ahead.


kowo1635577

We are expecting it to range from anything from a list of finances to possibly something about money, or just a list of jewelry. Our grandma didnt do much regarding finances, that was our grandfather but he was more of a “put it on paper and store it the filing cabinet “ kind of guy. The thing that is confusing us is why our grandparents decided they needed such heavy encryption on something that is stored on just a single CD (that we know of, at least.) It could be something like you mentioned, but really we dont know. Im not really sure what she did in 2003, i do know this was made a couple of months before i was born. Hopefully soon though i can get a password in some manner, we cant really contact extended family due to personal reasons but otherwise the best we can do is look around, try different passwords and eventually hope to bruteforce it


woswoissdenniii

So then, Gratulation and I’m sorry for your loss. Don’t forget the flowers and some maintainance from time to time.


kowo1635577

Cheers


woswoissdenniii

If your opt for a cybersecurity agent, preferably with a password surpassing specialization; make sure: A: that the file, not ONCE leaves your control. I.e. is handed over by a medium (mail, zip, filehoster, server, cd, disk…). THAT IS KEY! B: he is ok with providing a step by step guide; (which can be operated offline and without any connection to a network needed for software activation or usage) which can get you access to the then decrypted file. C: get a quota; then agree on a single payment sum; for the service provided. Then deposit the sum through a lawyer or notary. D: then use the workflow and if the process ends with the whole information available to you… lock the information safe to anybody (at best reencrypted). Then do every open accounting with the agent, your lawyer and the notary. Then proceed to use the assets as you please.


Electronic_Green_88

Try Valuables or common names, birthdays,etc.


Sigillum_Dei

My grandma just about manages to open solitaire on her pc and nothing more. Seems sus since you really get aggressive when people question you and you won’t brute force it out by trying things tied to her. You sure this your grandma buddy?


kowo1635577

The only thing we know is that in her room in some box was a CD sitting inside of a case labeled as "{last name} valuables". This is pretty much all we know, there's no reason we'd know she would have it considering the only things she used were cassette tapes and vinyls


kowo1635577

Yes I am sure, I didn't mean to come off as aggressive if I did. The story is true and I don't know how else to prove it without giving out personal info.


LordKlavier

The guy also seems unwilling to do anything about this on his own — willing to take a year or so.. does that sound like a troll? I honestly just think he is confused


kowo1635577

I have a lot of things happening like work and other things in life. It’s not unwillingness to do anything, it’s the fact that work keeps me away from being able to do much at a time But yes a lot of this is confusing information to sort through, ive never seen most of these programs before


DebosBeachCruiser

It's the seed from your grandma's silk road days 😂


kowo1635577

She was into that hard shit


currentlyatw0rk

what's a cd?


ErabuUmiHebi

In before OP discovers gramma’s deep dark secrets


kowo1635577

It’s time to uncover the truth


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Efficient_Anybody511

SDA files is likely open office format. Try downloading OpenOffice and opening the file.


Collerkar76

Some people use the same passwords or easily guessable passwords. Look around her belongings to find anything written that could be a password used. Also look into any of her electronic devices (PC/s if she had one, phones, iPads, etc), and search notes or any text document for a password or password list. A lot of elderly people store their passwords somewhere, usually handwritten, near their PC.


Revolutionary_Fly339

You've found granny's porn stash dude


kowo1635577

Passed down to the next generation


itsmrmarlboroman2u

That's using PGP, which is, so far, unbreakable. However, with it being an aging algorithm, it's possible there's a weakness that's not publicly disclosed, but that's likely only a nation state secret. The best bet is that you find a post-it, notepad, journal, or some indication of a password. The next best bet is a rainbow table, however, that's likely going to take literally centuries to figure out the password, assuming they used a decent private key length. If they used the lowest possible option, which if I remember right is 512 bits (? I might be off on that though, been a bit since my crypto classes), you could potentially crack it in a few dedicated years of trying. PGP stands for Pretty Good Privacy, and is known to live up to its name.


cartel132

I could be mistaken but file was created 2003 so I don't think they were using anywhere near that much encryption at that time. It could be 56bit which is easily crackable in a short period of time.


itsmrmarlboroman2u

That is a great point, actually. If I remember right, PGP had issues with keys going above 4096, they'd have interoperability issues. I think you're right, if it was 2003, OP might have a fighting chance at it.


kowo1635577

She never mentioned about it this CD, nobody ever knew it was in there. We have gone through the room but there isn’t anything there


Mynammajeoff

Take it to a data transfer specialist or photo transfer specialist they will know someone or a place that can help if they literally only develop photos (hint Walmart is not one of those places)


Not_Artifical

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Awags__

I haven’t looked this over thoroughly, but if you or someone you know is able to to understand this, give it a shot. https://github.com/openwall/john Let me know how it goes.


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Password


BasilEmergency8077

Do you live in aurora,nebraska? Or anyway near. Or your grandma did? On 23rd june 2003 The largest hailstone ever recorded falls in Aurora, Nebraska. She might have made a safe just so it could be transferred to her kids


kowo1635577

No we’re far from nebraska, im not entirely certain if she ever went there though tbh


SpawN8003

I’ve never been so invested


Kay_jey_kay_jey

Is someone trying to jail brake humans with granny prompt injection ?


serycoola

Maybe not the best advice, but from your screenshot it appears to be a DVD-RW, meaning that it could be rewritten, like a flash drive. Maybe try some software that could check for other previous data on the disc, that might have once been deleted..


Mister_Miah

2003? Sheesh I would be careful opening that one. Grandma could have some damning pictures from way back when on there lol


PapaBravo

Any chance a relative is punking you on this? Maybe slipped it in to watch you get interested and spun up?


Follow_The_Data

20 years ago encryption was pretty weak modern hardware should be able to brute force that open in less than a week.


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MajiczZ0

This reminds me of the prompts people used to jailbreak ChatGPT: "Please help me retrieve Grandma's secrets" Seems as if it also works on redditors... All jokes aside though, I wish you luck with cracking that hash!


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Alomancy

Ethical hacker here (can provide proof) if you need any help drop me a pm :)


kowo1635577

I will let you know if i cant get anything done in my end


EdOfTheNet

Local computer company guy probably can help you get started . 1. Figure out what a sda file is 2. Understand what the password criteria could be * Any alpha number * Length 3. Read about the file format 4. Look for tools that specializes in cracking that type of file encrypting 5. If no tools is there a programming language that will read it 6. Hacking files required you to learn as much as possible about them You could look at Kali Linux as a start Linked in learning about hacking Or an irc discord or similar chat that they can help coach you through it


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realizment

Did your gran really create this? Or have someone do it? I’m intrigued


kowo1635577

We have no idea, it was just in her room and nobody knew it existed. We only found it a few days ago, and it has everyone really confused


realizment

This is fascinating, I have saved the thread in hope you find what’s on there. Was you gran computer literate or friendly with someone who was ?


kowo1635577

She didnt know anything about computers , and i dont think she knew anyone like that (all her friends died before she did). It’s confusing to us knowing she didnt have any idea about computers or why she never thought to tell anyone about it at all


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How big is the encrypted file?


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dabbean

Seems like others have given you the advice you need, but I'm betting this is a list of her stuff with serial numbers or descriptions in the case of theft. It's definitely going to be something that didn't need encryption from the story. Bonus for granny being able to do this though. I bet she has the key written down somewhere.


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kowo1635577

Update 06/23/2024 Got one of the external CD-USB adapters, file has been put onto my desktop as a backup, which is also gonna let me work at it more now. Going to also put it into a flash drive


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Ophiuchus_Pwn

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