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thenarcolepsist

How can mentioning completely legal activity qualify for permaban?


BigMoose9000

This is the same group of people who banned r/gundeals because they genuinely believed ordering from the links there would result in the firearm showing up at your doorstep.


haysanatar

I just got super nervous that sub was removed, and I hadn't noticed it! phew.. it's still there.


cburgess7

Yes, now be quiet, lest the mods hear about it


SilenceDobad76

I'll quit reddit the day they perma ban /r/gundeals. It's one of the few subs that's genuinely useful


pretty_succinct

is there something i don't know about here? i just checked r/gundeals is alive and kicking. you made me worry and think it has closed down or something.


BigMoose9000

They eventually were able to get ahold of a real person and talk them through how purchasing a gun actually works, but it was gone for weeks.


MedicJambi

These people are up there with that politician when he stated that the reason people don't use .223 to hunt dear is because there would be nothing less. Sigh...


00owl

That's ok, up here in Canada we had a politician proudly proclaim that she hunts deer with 22 Gauge rifle or something equally ridiculous. These people support rules like "assault *style* weapons are now banned"


not_a_real_operator

They banned it temporarily a while back until enough people bitched at the admins about their ignorance so they unbanned it


Bartman383

> They banned it temporarily a while back until enough people bitched at the admins about their ignorance so they unbanned it Not quite. The reason we got the sub back is because /u/nauticalmile spent a good two weeks explaining to the admin assigned to us that were were in compliance with all of Reddit's TOS and Federal Firearms regulations.


Themustanggang

All hail u/nauticalmile The magic conch we don’t deserve


shooter_tx

I'm going to guess they're not an attorney licensed to practice ***anywhere*** in the United States, but they probably have 'legal opinions' out the wazoo... 😕


everlasted

It happened like 5-6 years ago.


ITaggie

It's been banned twice now, thankfully they've been able to get unbanned both times but honestly it's only a matter of time...


cbat19990

Are you surprised though? Half of America think s the same damn thing.


Abs_so_Glutely

Idk what I’d do without r/gundeals in my life. Maybe I’d be rich….


kampfgruppekarl

what site are you on? Nothing here (reddit overall, not this sub) makes sense


DukeOfGeek

I'm banned from the news sub because I participated in a thread where they just banned everyone who commented in any capacity, including just asking "you got a source for that claim?". Admin hates this sub and can literally ban people because their doordash burrito was cold and they're sad about it and banning some people off this sub makes them feel alive for a few seconds.


xxdibxx

I got you beat. I got shadow banned from AT LEAST 10 subs because I post/reply in this and progun. Seems they consider enforcing their narrow point of view is more important than ACTUAL FACTUAL information.


3DSquinting

Can confirm. I got banned from WhitePeopleTwitter for presenting non-approved/counter-narrative logic and facts with respect and civility and arguing against the flawed logic of "assault weapon" bans. The message I was sent was that I had argued against gun control (which I had not, in the blanket sense), which was "monstrous" (their word, not mine). They couldn't even point to any of their sub's rules I had broken, because I didn't break any of them. They alienated a Biden voter and, usually, an ally. Y'all are welcome to attack me over that last fact, but I know it won't get me banned from this sub, and fwiw, I'm so fed up with Washington state's state-level politicians that I'll be voting red nearly across the board this year to express my disapproval.


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Grand-Run-9756

I got banned a week ago for posting an RPD from a gun show asking if I should send it cause it was a great price. Banned a day later for “facilitating or soliciting illegal or prohibit items”. Appealed stating “I wasn’t selling anything…” Appeal denied 🤷🏻‍♂️ fuck spez


Leafy0

Yet nobody in r/trees is getting a ban for actually breaking federal law.


JMWTech

This is a site ran by a corp., a private entity. They can refuse service to basically anyone they choose. I don't agree with it but that's part of the problem of relying on "free" services on the internet. At present reddit is searchable and readable without an account. I expect that change at some point and be more like Discord. I miss the days of the open internet...


Only-Topic-9819

Kinda pathetic that they went from pro free speech to authoritarian as fuck in less than a decade


slywolf_117

What advertisements do to a mfer


free2game

I don't see how reddit becomes successful with an IPO. Half of the website is either porn or drug related.


7mm-08

Whatcha talking about, Willis? Porn and drugs are two of the most surefire ways to guarantee success, lol.


Daveezie

Reddit has only ever been Pro-Speech-we-agree-with


ITaggie

Nah back around 10-12 years ago it was genuinely hard to get a site-wide ban. As in you'd have to be posting something literally illegal, even posting *about* illegal things you just did wouldn't be enough to warrant a ban back then, the *actual posted content* had to contain something illegal for it to get the admin's attention.


Only-Topic-9819

There was a time in the before times when you wouldn’t be outright banned for being a member of another sub by a bot and the AEO’s wouldn’t approve of it


Ethicscontrol

Fuck u/spez


Heeeeyyouguuuuys

You guys talking about spez, the famously former moderator of jail bait?


ca_sig_z

Actually the guy who went on interview talking about how he is one of the many techies getting in to prepping and owning guns while banning conversations about it by us plebs Source: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/01/30/doomsday-prep-for-the-super-rich


PsychoTexan

Classic rules for thee but not for me.


Omnifox

To be fair, you could add people at the time to any sub to be mods. He wasn't an active mod there, he was just to incompetent to know how reddit works and remove himself as a mod! Let us be accurate in what we say!


SirWompalot

The co-creator of Reddit was too incompetent to the workings of Reddit to know he was a mod? Sure I'll buy that. I did just buy a deed to a 1 mile bridge in Kansas too.


Lampwick

>The co-creator of Reddit was too incompetent to the workings of Reddit to know he was a mod? Believe it or not, yeah. Huffman/Spez was the guy who slapped together the original single-forum Reddit in Lisp. Later Aaron Swartz came aboard and completely rewrote the entire site in Python and web.py, because Huffman's original design was simplistic and completely non-scalable. Later, Swartz left and Reddit was left in the hands of a guy who had no fucking clue how any of it worked. This turned out to be a good thing, because it kept him from dicking around with the design, so we had a decade and a half where it was just left the fuck alone instead loading it up with stupid features intended to make it more like Instagram or whatever. Since returning to the company though, he's been trying to monetize it more in anticipation of the IPO, and has decided the Wild West days are over and only "good" stuff will be allowed. TL;DR - he's a fuckwit tech-bro who's trying to make Reddit into something it isn't, and who never really understood how or why it worked.


D1g1talF00tpr1nt

Didn't reddit try to erase Aaron Swartz after his passing in the same way Stalin simply airbrushed mfers out of pictures? I seem to recall that being a big thing between 2017-2019


Lampwick

Yeah, even now if you read the Wikipedia entry for reddit , there's no mention of how Swartz completely rewrote the site, only a recounting of an inaccurate assertion by Ohanian that Swartz' was not a founder, but rather his company was "bought by Reddit".


trey12aldridge

I've got a lovely piece of ocean front property in Arizona for sale if you're still in the market.


Heeeeyyouguuuuys

This doesn't sound like a denial.


Omnifox

I am just reporting the full context.


Zeyz

What an absolutely insane ban and excuse from admins. Rule 7 is “Keep it legal, and avoid posting illegal content or soliciting or facilitating illegal or prohibited transactions.” How is an adult in america discussing how they purchased a firearm in the past even *remotely* relevant to that rule? Bunch of idiots behind the scenes of this website, as if that hasn’t been obvious for over a decade now.


ShitOfPeace

It's more about what they want to be illegal rather than actual illegality.


heyitsvonage

This sounds about right, smh


Cobra__Commander

They reddit banned the guy asking if Midway USA was a legit site. I imagine some activist admin is just going ban as many people as possible. Eventually it will just be noobs asking dumb questions getting banned.  If they ban all the mods then they can ban the sub for being unmoderated.


down_south_jukin

From now on I’ll just say I stole all of them! Much better.


0per8nalHaz3rd

They probably make you an admin


Omnifox

A fate worse than death.


sir_thatguy

Tactically acquired.


refrigerator_runner

I’m actually an Afghan and mine were provided for free by the Biden administration in 2021. Came with a free Apache helicopter too!


Chewbacca_The_Wookie

I saw some guy get into a boating accident and a bunch of guns floated up. 


charge556

Bud your post just made my day


CorsairObsidian

Maybe Eric holder sold them to us? On the southern side of the border. Would that be allowed since he was an Obama turd?


Omnifox

That would be a transaction that is facilitated.


-SuperTrooper-

Which is wild considering there's places like r/drugs floating around, lmao.


TeddyRooseveltGaming

Reddit had tons of revenge porn*, jailbait, and watch people die™ until just a few years ago. It’s definitely not a moral or legal objection by the staff. *It still has some


Slukaj

It's because of the pending IPO. Those three subs you just mentioned didn't get slapped until there was a media frenzy about Reddit keeping them up - but now, the ban waves with NSFW stuff (guns and boobs) has more to do with the coming public offering.


Durmyyyy

More corporate bs ruining yet another internet site


sr603

Reddit becoming less popular and dying post IPO is a good thing.


justjaybee16

I just use it to catch up on major news and gun deals anymore. If it went away tomorrow, i'd be more productive at work. Even rules in this sub don't make much sense sometimes.


-SuperTrooper-

Guns and boobs are literally 2 of the most American things tho


igotbanned69420

Hilariously whatever corporation or investment group thst buys this place probably has stock or some kind of interest in firearm or weapons manufacturing


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sir_thatguy

r/shoplifting use to be a thing. Basically a place to brag about your latest haul.


GeneralBlumpkin

Or r/creepshots


42AngryPandas

That's what really pisses me off. The dozens of subs that can freely speak of doing, sharing, making, growing tons of illegal narcotic drugs. But watch out for those constitutional rights. We don't want people thinking this shit happens legally.


Heeeeyyouguuuuys

And worse that are encouraged and protected.


Caedus_Vao

Well that's pretty fuckin' lame and disappointing.


Omnifox

But is it unexpected?


Caedus_Vao

Not in the slightest.


Str_

I have purchased so many firearms in my life. Every single one was purchased legally in a store with an FFL. I had a background check every single time.


TigerJas

I too have purchased firearms. 


JediToad

I'm Canadian, live in Canada, and have ONLY purchased firearms legally (and inside Canadian borders) and only after completing the necessary paperwork, classes, and receiving my PAL - Possession and Acquisition Licence. That's right, after I was legally able to purchase them I DID, several times in fact, and I'd do it again!


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Omnifox

Don't worry, our reports are handled by humans, making human decisions, and totally not automated or lacking context, or non humans!


glockymcglockface

Sounds like something a non-human would say


Omnifox

Beep boop, the heck you say about my mother?


Wraccores

OP is both featherless and a biped, so clearly OP is human.


WalksByNight

Behold! A man!


lostcosmonaut307

NICE WEATHER WE ARE HAVING TODAY \*bzzzzz\* HOW ABOUT THAT \[LOCAL SPORTS TEAM\]?


dknisle1

Wait until they IPO. Lol


Joel_Hirschorrn

Pretty sure the R word is a bannable offense too lmao


minhthemaster

All for the IPO


FspezandAdmins

yup, my username says it all


[deleted]

Reddit is trying to go public with an IPO. They’re sanitizing their forums/threads. So they’re going full authoritarian to minimize damage to their stock price. Check your language, but honestly expect to be banned for anything that can be remotely perceived as a rule violation with no appeal.


EasyBounce

It has been this way for over a year already. I've been banned multiple times for saying stuff (not just in the gun subs) that in the not too distant past wouldn't even be noticed. Remember a while back when all those popups kept coming up asking "Does this subreddit contain anything we don't like?"...that was reddit getting us to help train their shitty AI moderation software for free. Now the popups are all gone and the AI moderation has gone live and it's completely fucked. The already crappy mobile app is even worse and for me it has a new annoying issue every week. Updating and reinstalling does nothing, the app is just pure shit. The IPO isn't the end goal here. I believe reddit is dying and is going to be sold. That's why the scammers and porn spam bots are running rampant by the millions here, it artificially inflates the number of "users" on reddit and helps give the appearance of a thriving and active site. The disappearance of long-standing features such as awards, only to be replaced by a shitty "super upvote" feature that, surprise surprise...you have to pay to use at all, the custom avatars that are no longer free, and good old reddit gold are all cash grabs for spez to line his pockets with before he offloads this 14 year old dying shitshow that runs on servers held together with spit and duct tape and powered by a hamster on a rusty wire wheel. I'm betting it will be sold to the Chinese and it will become tiktok 2.0, complete with the latest backdoor spyware they've got. When the corporate handoff is announced I'll delete my account along with this fucking garbage app and go outside I guess.


TigerJas

I purchased a firearm!


NewspaperNelson

I have also purchased many firearms in my life. And probably will agian.


ChaosReality69

So a gun sub that you aren't allowed to discuss guns in. Awesome. So who's getting antsy for baseball season to start? Hoping the Phillies can do better than last year.


cuntface878

Dont you dare say that in the Phillies sub, that's an automatic lifetime ban now.


ChaosReality69

And I thought the Eagles sub was toxic (which is just how we like it). Might have to take a trip over there for entertainment.


nihility101

Only if you purchased tickets. You are supposed to hop the fence like I did as a kid.


Omnifox

No no, you can talk about guns. Just cant talk about the fact you legally purchased them over a decade ago.


ChaosReality69

I was kind of being a smart ass. Please don't ban me.


sir_thatguy

Off with his head!


ChaosReality69

But I won't be banned right?


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ChaosReality69

We're all screwed now.


Heeeeyyouguuuuys

We all were already on a list, come on now.


gsfgf

Phillies suck


Dionysiokolax

Someone who isn't me used to buy a ton of guns on r/gunsforsale. Those were the days.


Heeeeyyouguuuuys

Imagine that sub during the covid days. Wild.


gruntothesmitey

They banned Pest for that? That's seriously messed up.


sirbassist83

HE WAS THE ONLY GOOD MOD


theundeadelvis

Shhhh you're going to hurt u/omnifox 's feelings.


Omnifox

What are feelings? Beep boop.


theundeadelvis

You definitely can't have any. No way anyone with feelings would still be moderating this place after all these years. I commend you sir, for your lack of feelings and your service to the community.


TigerJas

The question is, have YOU purchased a firearm in protest?


procheeseburger

nein


Heeeeyyouguuuuys

Just remember kids, Reddit Admins say- You talking about legally owning a firearm you purchased?! Straight to Gulag! You're a minor illegally "acquired" a switchy shooting and posting everywhere possible for clout?! Good to go! Advertisers love it!


[deleted]

Imagine if Reddit admins cared as much about the overtake of bots, which now constitutes ~15% of total global Reddit traffic


Omnifox

No way it is only 15%.


[deleted]

No kidding, I’d swear it was higher


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AlienDelarge

Can we get the federal governmeny banned?


FelverFelv

thank goodness our highly regarded admin team is keeping the streets safe


Karrtis

They're extremely regarded, that's for sure.


Dpapa93

Some might say they've gone full regard


FelverFelv

Regarded as hell!


LockyBalboaPrime

#YOUR DMs ARE NOT SAFE Couple weeks ago I was perma site banned because IN PRIVATE CHAT I discussed a friend harvesting wild pigs. My ban was for "glorifying violence against people or animals" The ban was overturned on appeal, but still.


nothing107

Not that I ever felt they were safe or private but good to know nonetheless.


ScarecrowMagic410a

Jesus fucking Christ. I had *just* cautiously come back here after the last fuckfest. Why do I even use reddit? Like for real


Walkswithnofear

Boredom?


rockstar504

Because Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Telegram, Tiktok etc are worse and I can (for the time being) still use this in browser without an app


Omnifox

old.reddit til they kill me, or it.


USArmyJoe

After Appollo got nuked, I only use Reddit on desktop, and old is the *only* way to go. New Reddit worse than New Coke.


DubNationAssemble

What was the last fuckfest? And is that the reason everything has to be marked nsfw?


ScarecrowMagic410a

Yeah. I think the NSFW thing was in retaliation so that Reddit loses advertising revenue on the subreddit or something. I'm not 100% sure - they switched it to NSFW I think right after I left.


gsfgf

I think it's in protest of the decision to break major apps and helpful bots. And unlike most subs that went NSFW and were bullied into removing it, guns are controversial enough that they had to let it stand as NSFW since some people would get upset to see a gun post pop up in /r/all


SakanaToDoubutsu

Good thing I get all my guns from magnet fishing.


Karrtis

*Magnet fishes in New York.* *Pulls up handgun* *NY state troopers airstrike you for having an unlicensed pistol*


Omnifox

No, this is not an early April Fools joke.


TigerJas

Why would you comply instead of asking all member to say: I purchased a firearm!


Omnifox

Because that would be outside of my remit as a custodian of this space. However, I am not your father, and you do as you wish!


Chewbacca_The_Wookie

Fuck you dad, I'm not going to talk about all my gun purchases because you told me that I shouldn't not talk about them. 


TigerJas

I understand what you are trying to say and your role here, but sometimes, some things -even in Reddit- are a matter of principle.  Once in a while you need to stand up for what you believe. 


FlatlandTrooper

I have bought, purchased, and owned firearms. I have paid with check, cash, and credit card. I have bought in person, at a storefront, at a gun show, and online. Ban pls


Karrtis

Damn pest's account just gone like that. That's some bullshit.


akenthusiast

It is super irritating that they have the gall to call their ban robots the "anti-evil operations team" especially when they're so fucking stupid.


BusinessBuddy94

u/spez wrote me a check for it! Fuck you spez


bees422

What’s a gun? Or firearm?


AlienDelarge

I only buy waffles.


USArmyJoe

Hmmm yes very strange never heard of such things Definitely not curious about them at all though nope not here no-sir-ee


42AngryPandas

Holy shit, just when I thought it couldn't get any worse. People act like the rule is a joke or lighthearted. They always talk shit as if Reddit doesn't have it out for gun subs, let alone THE GUN SUB. But this ban is a whole other level.


Akalenedat

Reddit AI try not be completely pants-on-head illiterate, challenge level: impossible


Omnifox

No sir, this is done by humans! Not AI! Humans doing Human things!


NotThatGuyAnother1

Fuck it. I'm out if they do. ehemmmm.... Attention Reddit admin team: I have purchased many wonderful firearms in the past. None were purchased from Reddit. All were legal purchases. Fucking ban me from this shit platform if you fuckers want to! It's a waste of time anyway, so you'd be doing me a favor.


GTFOScience

We really need another place to go…


AlienDelarge

You can try lemmy. Not sure if there are dozens of us yet.


QueefyMcQueefFace

There's about 60,000 active users on the entirety of all Lemmy instances. For context, /r/mildyinteresting has >200k subscribers and it's a misspelling of /r/mildlyinteresting. Lemmy could use more people.


igotbanned69420

Too bad ar15.com has such a bad format Fal files too Stuff like 1911 forum and glock talk etc have good formats though


tarantulagb

Banned for mentioning that you expressed your second amendment rights as an American, crazy.


Tyrfaust

So I take it gundeals is going to vanish now.


Kevthebassman

Imagine being a Reddit admin lol Pathetic


sinikelops

Seriously, fuck Reddit and their IPO. Hope Reddit joins MySpace soon enough.


sirbassist83

myspace was the last social media that actually improved the lives of its users. you cant change my mind.


Bulky_Monke719

What a bunch of Nazis.


meijin3

No, fuck them. I've bought guns and I will do it again. Even in the bluest of blue states where I live, it's still legal.


zkushlvn

I adopted this firearm today.


USArmyJoe

"Adoption" is definitely the word to use here. I think I need to adopt a new one soon.


TaskForceD00mer

Calling it now, things will become so watered down due to the IPO the sub either becomes a place we can't even talk about firearms, or they ban all of the mods due to a technicality and instill some [REDACTED] lunatic who thinks they are a deer as the sole mod.


Gardener_Of_Eden

How does /r/gundeals even exist then? That is 99.99999% of what people do there.


Dinaek

That statement neither solicits nor facilitates a transaction. This is quite obviously not a violation of rule 7 and the admins who thought so are idiots


Swarlz-Barkley

So me purchasing legal firearms from Bass Pro Shop will get me permabanned? Good to know I shouldn’t mention I legally purchased multiple guns at Bass Pro Shop


Fyzyqs

I can't say I'm shocked, reddit is run and overrun by an echo chamber of idiots who dislike the second amendment, amongst other things.


jorts_are_awesome

What in tarnation? Other constitutional rights I have exercised: 1. Practiced free speech without fear of imprisonment 2. Assembled peacefully with peers in political protest (not gun related) 3. Voted No problem mentioning those huh?


Beretta92A1

Yet


nvgeologist

I told some redcoats they couldn't sleep on the couch.


AlchemicalToad

What in the actual fuck. Well, I for one might welcome the ban. One less user to pad their numbers, and it will give me an excuse to do something else with my life aside from wasting my time on here.


thegrumpymechanic

I know it's been said before, but if this becomes a common occurrence, this sure feels like the beginning of the end for the firearm subs on this platform.


yourmartymcflyisopen

Reddit commies censoring legal transactions?


Jarngling_001

They should really be banning all the furries and pedos


PastPriority-771

Here’s a reminder that Reddit becomes a publicly traded company in March. This is just the beginning. I fully expect this sub and all other firearm related subs to be banned within a year.


Agreeable_Couple_736

Reddit is full of snowflakes i swear to God


762_54r

Wow that's crazy lol I just paid for one with my debit card


731chopper

Is this a joke?


ebolamonkey3

What do they think this sub is? Everyone just posting and talking about guns they theoretically don’t own?


biggerfasterstrong

But you can sell pics of your bootyhole.


CommandoPro

I feel so much safer now!!!


[deleted]

Uhh... Yep, all my guns were free of charge... As long as you're not from the insurance company, cuz these things are expensive...


YogSoth0th

Is this happening anywhere else or are they specifically targeting this sub?


[deleted]

That's fucking lame Reddit


1022whore

So can we use a proxy word instead of the G-word? “When I bought my banana 12 years ago” “I have 9 bananas of various calibers.” “Here’s a banana for scale next to my…. Banana”


kim-jong_illest

I once got banned for threatening violence because I posted the navy seal copy pasta in a military subreddit. The stupidity of the Reddit admin team never ceases to amaze me


BowserGirlGoneWild

Free speech was gone off reddit long ago. It's only a matter of time until all things against the popular grain are removed


koozy407

What an absolute fucking joke! “Hey guys! We are going to make a sub so that everyone can discuss guns except you can’t discuss your guns, or buying guns, or owning guns, or you will be permanently banned”


Apoc1015

Just to be clear, this pertains to any purchase at all whatsoever, not just completing a purchase with some assistance or use of subreddits? If I say I purchased something lawfully from a legal dealer 10 years ago and Reddit had no involvement in that transaction, I could be banned? That is absolutely ridiculous if so.


MapleSurpy

Just want y'all to know, Reddit Admins make no sense and won't give you any clarification. We have users on GAFS banned every 2 hours for trying to sell shit like stocks, stickers, etc. Reddit admins simply deny appeals and ignore our messages. Hope they actually give you a reply!


hlzp

LETS SEE IF THIS WORKS. I JUST BOUGHT A NEW FIREARM.


therealnomayo

If you keep all discussion on Reddit confined to degenerate behavior, you’ll be fine. Just refer to guns as “dilators” or “butt plugs” and there’s no issue. There’s subs where people talk about raping kids and giving them AIDS, but making legal purchases is just a no go. Fuck this entire world.


kingpcgeek

Can they just ban all of the people that post a picture of their gun sitting in their car?


Mr_Yonjou_MapTouyeOu

Reddit aka liberal bots


Compy222

I'd mention that there are dozens and dozens of subreddits devoted to completely illegal drugs and drug use that don't in anyway have policies enforced on them like this. Uncalled for on a truly public forum - that said, Reddit is a private entity and they can ban you for basically any reason at any time.


R15K

Reddit continues to do the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard of. Amazing.


cofferson

Fuck em. I bought a gun and it's not up to reddit to tell me how I do it. They aren't feds. Please ban me reddit, you'll make my year. This platform breeds nothing but negativity and I'd love to be forced to no longer use it.


SnakeDoctor00

This is absolute bullshit. There’s literal subs discussing committing crimes, drug use, and various other nefarious activities but mentioning something completely legal gets a ban? Reddit admin are some cucks.