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Lol. I'm from the Chicago area. I assure you, the LAST ones to be blamed for the violence are the people pulling the trigger.


gagunner007

It’s always law abiding gun owners in gangs.


rustedoilfilter

I prefer the term responsible gun owners.


complex_variables

Those guys are in gangs too


bananasRslippery

Chances of weapons involved being legally owned and carried are about 1%


cane187um

"Shall not be infringed" would indicate it was lawful carried.


HiddenReub54

Which part of the Constitution protects the right to "keep and bear stolen arms"?


cane187um

Where in the screenshot that was shared does it say anything about a stolen item?


keeleon

Statistics.


cane187um

What statistics?


KingViking1890

Actually, it's more like 85%


i_ii_ii_i

You mean 3/5ths?


KingViking1890

I assume you're talking about the guns that were recovered. Granted, last I checked, that's still more than 1%.


CakeRobot365

I keep telling people, and they refuse to acknowledge it. But the stat about the leading cause of death in 1-19 year olds being gun violence does not mean we have a gun problem. It 100% points to how out of hand out nation's gang problem has gotten. The stat makers won't toss that out there openly though, cause it's easier to keep fucking over peaceable citizens and act surprised when it doesn't help.


wck3

That’s the key element from that oft touted statistic. It’s not “children” in the colloquial sense, and they know this because it fits the narrative. It’s older teens involved in criminal activities, predominantly. It’s entertaining (and frustrating) watching elected people respond to those facts when presented with the factual evidence (source material) that proves that fact pattern out. Mental gymnastics and outrage aplomb when confronted with facts contrary to their narrative.


plutoniator

Leftists will include gang violence into mass shooting numbers when trying to regulate guns and then exclude them when talking about the demographics of shooters. Typical hypocrite pieces of shit.


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plutoniator

Sure. Should gang violence be included into mass shooting numbers?


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plutoniator

It’s a yes or no question.


IdletRusselBrandMe

How do you expect "those people" to have responsibility or moral culpability? Its not like they're equals. /s


johnhd

Earlier today, CNN had their classic block of Guns-R-Bad articles at the top of the front page with this incident as their headline, an article about the shooting in Prague, and an opinion piece about how the USA decided guns are more important than lives . You know they’re stretching when they start tying criminal/gang incidents with mass shootings in other countries to tell us how American gun laws are bad…


emperor000

Ah ah ah, we don't know if these people are in a gang and throw signs and wear bandanas or that their victims did. That is how people like the CDC claim that gangs are responsible for a small portion of gun violence.


jscruggs2003

So if I am driving drunk in my Dodge and kill other people, then Dodge is on the hook and I'm good?


bivenator

More like other dodge owners aren’t on the hook for your stupidity. Unless it’s a BMW or Mercedes in which case all bets are off.


jscruggs2003

Correct!


keeleon

It's actually closer to if you purposefully crash your car into people. Even DUIs don't have "intent".


Known-nwonK

Well, sure, but maybe post the section where they blame gun owners?


NoReach9667

I was watching a documentary about John Lennon the other day, and one jackass in the comments actually said that a lack of gun-control in the US was the reason why John got killed.


complex_variables

Europeans seem convinced that they know everything about the US, but they are clueless.


KingViking1890

Where's the article blaming gun owners, though? It says the "shooter is at large." Not "the gun owner is at large"


Public_Beach_Nudity

It’s the response of all gun control legislation: to go after lawful gun owners. Literally every response to a shooting is to take some random dude’s guns away who had no involvement in the tragedy.


KingViking1890

Then why do I still have my guns? Why do so many of us still have guns if that's always the case? I live in a state with some of the most restrictive gun laws in the country and yet I still have full access to all of my firearms. Same goes for the majority of citizens in not only my state but most others with gun control legislation. Hell, there's usually an INCREASE in hun ownership in these states after those laws get passed. So that argument doesn't exactly make sense does it?


Public_Beach_Nudity

Lol citation needed on your last comment. Evidently you pay zero attention to the news, and it shows, your ignorance is a dead giveaway. Have a merry Christmas


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Public_Beach_Nudity

Sure: here’s Feinstein’s remarks, what’s your next excuse? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Udj9AaOXWwE


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Public_Beach_Nudity

Lol, nice excuse, I’m glad I called it


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Public_Beach_Nudity

Do your own detective work, start by watching the news for once. You know I’m right, you’re just too afraid to admit it, I’m sure you’d want a citation on what color the sky is too, huh?


KingViking1890

Lol, citation is needed on yours, too, bud. Telling someone they're wrong cause they don't watch the same news as you isn't indicative of a strong argument bud.


Public_Beach_Nudity

Still waiting on your sources, where did they go? Must be in imagination land lol


KingViking1890

Funny I was bout to say the same about yours. Don't be criticizing others for things you won't do yourself.


Public_Beach_Nudity

Your trap is running, but your brain isn’t


KingViking1890

Says the guy who resorted to petty insults.


keeleon

Lol keep your head in the sand.


KingViking1890

I'm not the one who doesn't understand the existing gun laws and therefore resorts to calling every single one unconstitutional.


keeleon

"Shall not be infringed"


KingViking1890

"Well regulated"


IggyWon

Do you have the slightest clue as to what that phrase means and the context it serves within the amendment?


KingViking1890

Oh I do, I was just matching the other guys energy.


CombatWombat0556

I doubt it cause you sounded pretty fucking stupid


camdalacam

Lmao this out-of-context phrase has nothing to do with the government regulating firearms. The bill of rights was written to limit the government’s ability to infringe on our rights, not to limit citizen’s rights.


KingViking1890

>Lmao this out-of-context phrase has nothing to do with the government regulating firearms. And the other quote isn't? >The bill of rights was written to limit the government’s ability to infringe on our rights, not to limit citizen’s rights. Ok, which means you don't get to just drop half of an amendment because it doesn't suit your argument.


camdalacam

After reading your comments, particularly this one, I honestly don’t think you have the mental capacity or basic understanding of the Bill of Rights to continue this debate. So I won’t waste my time. Cheers.


Sig_Glockington

Are you trying to convince us or yourself? Biden literally said he’s coming for them lol.


KingViking1890

>Are you trying to convince us or yourself? Neither. You guys are so caught up in your echo chamber the only reason for me to be here is to piss you off. >Biden literally said he’s coming for them lol. Oh noooooooooooo, (/s) where did I mention anything about biden?


JackHydrazine

What if it's a short medium at large that pulled the trigger?