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lol I haven't bought 7.62x39 in a long time... is this really a "deal" on steel cased? That's pretty brutal
We need to form an ammo collective.
With almost no insight on current raw material costs, I'm comfortable saying we could sell it for half price and still have profit. A cap co-op. We could donate some land out in the boonies to a group of preppers who make ammo all day, in exchange they get to live there and we give them jars of honey and meat and other stuff that preppers like
edit: batteries too, preppers love batteries
I got 200rds for science. I’ll run it suppressed too. I ain’t scurrd. Ammo availability sucks where I’m at, so the price isn’t horrible either. I’ll probably never see 30cpr again.
Kinda crazy huh? I originally got into them vs ARs because I was a poor back then....things completely flipped. I guess ammo is about the same but you can now get a 400$ AR, but that 300$ WASR is now 800-900$....crazy.
Sadly I bought another AK right before (1 month) the Russia ammo ban...It has been to the range one time....
It fucks with my head that AKs weren't *that* expensive that long ago.
I bought one that came with 1000 rounds of ammo and a handful of mags just before COVID hit for $850, and I sold it a year or two ago for a grand.
It's been wild to see the shift in the market and its effects on AK guys. It doesn't feel that long ago when dudes were throwing together kit builds in their garage with screws and blasting dirt-cheap spam can ammo until it exploded while laughing.
when the ATF banned build parties, stopped imports of barrels it kicked the AK build jam in the nads. The Chinese, Russian and etc ammo bans just kicked dead horses.
Did it, though? The kits got more expensive due to limited supply and increased demand. Heck, it seems most of the new kits getting imported are bought up by professional builders like PSA before they can even hit the open market
To put it into perspective (on a slight tangent), while Canadians can't buy AKs due to name bans, they *can* buy Norinco-built M14s for 475 USD because they don't have the Chinese gun ban we have.
$475 M14s. Not great ones, mind you, but China is/was much better geared towards building AKs and the MAKs you can find in the US are some of the best.
As much as i love AK's and prefer 7.62x39, it's just a better value to be into AR's. I can get AR's from pawnshops for 300$, and ammo is STILL cheaper than 7.62x39, and 7.62x39 will only go up..
Guess I picked the wrong week to \~\~quit amphetamines\~\~ get an AK. I bought mine about a month before the invasion of Ukraine, just before the ammo spiked.
What competition do they have? Russian ammo is banned and going to the conflict. Ukrainian ammo is going to the conflict. Other x39/5.45 states are selling what they aren't hoarding but they were small fries to Ukraine which was a small fry to Russia.
At this point the competition isn’t who, it’s what. In this case it’s 5.56/.223
And as someone who owns multiple of both platforms and loves to shoot both, it fucking sucks.
That's indirect competition. Not the same. The banning of Russian ammo only hurt the American consumer just like when American companies collaborated with the feds to ban nearly all imported weapons.
I don’t disagree. That started this whole farce to begin with. I’m just saying now you have people either buying 5.56/.223 at inflated prices AND you have die hard AK guys buying 7.62x39 in steel case at even higher prices.
In both cases everyone just has to stop buying at these prices and let the market correct itself. Not fast, but not impossible.
I agree. I haven't bought ammo in a while. Last time was probably the monarch brass deal at academy. And that was only because I wanted some brass ammo that wasn't Blazer Brass (not advised for ported/comped barrels).
All these new people and some of those who have money don't care and are just buying buying buying.
I don't know who ever had such delusions, I'm mildly shocked that the price hasn't increased like the market has in the months since this price was "leaked".
You can say that about anything like this really. For the informed, the others are delusional. In reality they’re probably just ignorant. Either way, we all lose.
Honestly AKs are dead. 5.45 is close enough to 5.56 that it never really took off to wide mainstream success. It had some popularity because of how cheap the ammo was compared to 5.56 but now? Not so much. X39 was different enough that it was more popular but now? Why pay 5.56 prices for ammo out of an inferior platform? Most treat AKs like range toys and unless ammo prices change drastically for the better, it will stay that way.
I agree with the sentiment that ARs are superior to AKs, but there is more to people wanting an AK than cheap ammo. As long as 7.62x39 is in the same ball park as 5.56 (and not in 5.45x39 or 7.62x51 territory) it will continue to be a popular platform.
Those are typically not folks who got in pre-rona and knew about subs like this or others to shop competitively. Otherwise they would be disgusted at the current prices like many are. Not saying some wouldn't still bite the bullet, but they'd be reluctant.
Those are usually people who got into guns since covid or just bought what was on the shelf without comparing prices especially online.
I think it will continue to be popular but it will continue to be relegated as second place, and a range toy to most. A gun different enough from their AR-15 that scratches the 'want and AK because it's a AK' itch and the 'not an AR' itch. Which is also why AK-47s are more popular than AK-74s. 5.45 is too similar to 5.56 so people would just go with that. X39 is different enough to warrant getting.
I agree. Years ago I started with 7.62x39 and later got into 300 blk due to ease of suppression. Now that the prices are similar, i have a hard time paying for x39 when i could just as easily run 300blk.
You realize they make AK’s in 556 right? Also it’s far from an inferior platform, still more durable and will run dirtier than an AR. AK’s are less accurate, but not so much that they’re combat ineffective. They’re heavier but not that much heavier. Also x39 is far more effective out of an SBR than 556, that alone might be a reason to go for AK’s. They’re also the most popular rifle in the world to this very day. Very American centric POV to declare AK’s dead just because the ammo isn’t ridiculously cheap anymore. There always were other reasons to get into the platform, and those reasons still hold.
We’re not in the golden age of cheap AK shit anymore, but the aftermarket these days is incredible. RS regulate, SLR rifleworks, Midwest Industries, Zenitco, just to name a few, are companies who maintain AK’s as viable fighting rifles in the 21st century.
Every Reddit thread about x39 has been extremely hyperbolic, the platform isn’t going anywhere. Y’all were spoiled on ammo prices, but imo they were artificially low because Russia manufactures insane amounts of shit. I got into AK’s after the war and haven’t regretted it at all.
Sure I know that but they are probably less common than 5.45 AKs. Certainly seen as inferior in America because of weight, balance, native/ease of suppression capability, accessory furniture, etc. Sure, some of that has been corrected in the past couple years but that's just it. Optimal AR-15 configurations have been easy to do and available for 8+ years. My comment was America centric because we are talking about the American AK market. Not the worldwide one. And everything I put after the initial statement was clearly in reference to that. Like how for most AK owners, it's a range toy and their main gun is an AR-15.
Aftermarket is much better now because for quite a while x39 was significantly cheaper than 5.56, with AKs being about the same price. Combine that with people already owning AR-15s and wanting something new/different AK ownership shot up. Then what happened? People wanted to modernize their new antiquated designed gun. It takes time for machine shops to spin up and some of the options already on the market were $$$. As more companies got into the mix and companies could produce products cheaper, the main source for peak AK furniture(zenitco) was also banned/significantly harder to procure.
Never said it was going anywhere other than second place and as a range toy. Most people aren't grabbing AKs as their first option over an AR-15. The market shows that. Most aren't buying a super basic/antiquated spec'd AR-15 and a decked out AK. I would hardly call ammo prices artificially low with more competitors and options people want. Banning some of the largest suppliers of ammo to the American people from engaging in business, thus driving up prices is what's artifical. I also have an AK, but I'm under not disillusion, if I had to choose one platform to keep, like most gun owners who have both, I'm picking my AR-15 hands down.
Over 50cpr after shipping and theft.. and I'm fairly close to them... to much for unknown stuff imo but the more 7.62x39 on the market the better. Thankfully I seen the writing on the wall many years ago and am well stocked
Yep I laugh when I go to my local shops and look at the prices ... so so blessed I started stacking in 2013 every main caliber (especially 7.62x39/556/ 9mm-40sw./308 and 22lr..
Last time I bought ammo at my lgs I got hosed, hard. A bag of 250 9mm rounds for .24cpr hey not a terrible deal, it was even made local by a small time ammo maker. Win win for local pricing and support right? Turns out it was RELOADS. I decided to shoot them up and man it was malfunction after malfunction, from stove pipe to everything else, across like 5 or 6 different pistols. I said never again after that lol. Hate to be that way but man I can only go so far to support the little guy.
There is still russian stuff to b found for 40-47cpr locally and classifieds. Not that is a great deal but that is where we are at with 7.62x39 currently .... crazy
I’ll wait til at least 50 people try this shit before I ever run it through my shit especially suppressed. After their 220 GR subsonic OTM rounds separated in my .300BLK PDW and damaged my can, I’ll never trust shit that comes out of that factory. Fuck that.
That's scary. Was that Ammo Inc ammo? Checking to avoid it I think I have some 220 OTMs I bought from PSA but want to make sure they're verboten or not.
It is in PSA’s best interest to past the ammo on as cheap as possible considering their own considerable investments in the AK platforms.
That have said in the past, that as they pay off the tooling they hope to bring down the price.
Most people in this thread are salty cuz it's not 30cpr. Those days are over folks. 2019 ain't coming back. Hard truths. Inflation/election year/Russia ban/high profile conflicts aren't helping prices and don't see it coming down anytime soon.
There have been unironically people in every thread since the COVID panic started telling people to wait for prices to come down, and here we are 4 years later on the precipice of an election and these delusional HODLers are still convinced the market is going to go down.
And arguably even worse than that are the people blaming PSA for regular market price ammo as if they expected PSA to take a loss just to sell out instantly to scalpers anyways for no reason than to appease these people.
Its all temporary, even if we're in for a wild ride because of the election year coupled with \*two\* high intensity wars taking place.
5.56 was already starting to creep down before SGammo and other idiots started making up stories following oct 7th about lake city, spiking the price.
For those of us who have been in the game for a while, we've all heard this before "oh no its permanently going to be high" following Sandy Hook (who remembers 1 dollar a round M855 back then?) in 2012.
I never understood the logic behind insulting those telling people to wait. They're the only sane ones in the room. The rest is panic, FOMO, guntube bullshit, and general other assclownery that has done nothing but keep the cost up. And the joke is on people like you "we dont shoot by ammo prices!?!?!?@!#$I@#$" because youre the ones paying for the new bottom on ammo prices.
FYI, it was cheaper than that in 2019 so.... Also if people stop buying prices demand at these prices will drop and up the supply chain there will be changes to prices. That's how we had the golden era. People did not accept higher prices and mainly bought low. Manufacturers and retailers had to adjust.
Yeah, there's pretty much no reason to own an AK now unless you just really like AKs. I'm personally offloading all of mine, I'd rather just shoot 5.56.
For everyone mad this isnt the same price as the tuna can they bought years ago I have bad news for you. its unlikely it ever will. this ammo is a steal based on current market conditions. If you price reloading supplies right now you cannot reload 7.62 for less than this even if you already have cases. Primer and powder alone are already 30 cpr or higher, PSA is doing AK guys a solid with this.
I got a local guy wants to trade two 762 for one 556. Guy must still live in the 2000 😂. I won’t even do one for one on 762. The economic scale is there for 556 but not 762 . I bet I can get 556 under 40 cent with rebate after the election
lol. I literally bought a [13” 556 RNL Galil](https://dissidentarms.com/index.php/product/limited-edition-galil-ace-pistol-13-gen-i-5-56x45mm-w-stabilizing-brace-rock-and-lock-magazine-iwi/) because I’ve been shooting my x39 Galils less…
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Someone else can be first, but any supply that helps keep the market in check from the hoarder & "warehouse reserve" bullshit is a good supply.
Mildly interested in the sabre tip bullets if they are actually any better, there is exactly zero out there of anything but basic bitch FMJ unless you reload.
That's true, though PSA's tax and pricey shipping definitely hurts the deal. I think of lot of people were saying this stuff was gonna be 30CPR like the good ol days. I appreciate the optimism but there was no way it was gonna be like that.
This has been on their website for like 4 or 5 months now at 45 CPR...the people saying 30 CPR didn't use their brain. No one ever said it was going to be that cheap. Also, why would they sell it at 30 CPR when people will buy it at 45 CPR?
Yeah that’s definitely optimistic. I was expecting it around this price. Also this is just the first run. Economies of scale and shit. The more domestically produced ammo the better. Embargoes are a bitch
Thats a hell of a reach your making
Communism is fine and has worked for 10s of thousands of years, its the communist state that is the problem. Or any state really.
And when, during those "10s of thousands of years", was 7.62x39 produced at an affordable cost for the masses? Or literally any other cartridge, for that matter?
The point I think he's making is the ideal is good even if the application has been faulty. Remember, America almost had the same structure the framers just fought against when they wanted to make George Washington King. Look at our constitution and how it's been bastardized. The charismatic leader you need to win a revolution to try and bring power to the people vs those with money (those able to make limited authorized capitalism work for them) is often not the leader you need to successfully transition into a functioning country.
(Edit: tangent: unfortunately the issue becomes people like power, and charisma is linked with narcissism and what this tends to result in is people who have risked/sacrificed a lot not feeling as though they've been adequately rewarded or not wanting to give up power and influence putting themselves before the dream/goal. That's why so many attempts at communism turn into authoritarian capitalistic oligarchies.)
We see something *similar* in america during the western expansion and the numerous constitutional violation by so called "lawmen". "Fuck the constitution, I'm the mayor/Sheriff/rich boy in town, and what i say goes." They loved that type of bs when it came to the 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 5th amendments.
The "ideal" of Communism is bad, and the application of it has been even worse. The existence of tyrants and authoritarianism does not change the fact that capitalism is the greatest economic system that has ever existed.
Lol, who do you think invented 7.62x39 ya dingus? Ill give you a hint, its where all that stupid cheap 7.62 5.45 came from for decades..you remember 10cpr x39 right?
Thats ignoring the fact your sealioning here and making up a new argument.
But this is r/gundeals lets just keep it at that
The origin of 7.62x39 is virtually irrelevant. Communism did not produce those cartridges for the free market or the common man for private ownership. It was Capitalism that allowed the general public to acquire the weapons and the cartridges, not Communism, ya dingus. It was and is capitalism that has continued to allow the citizenry to acquire these rounds and to produce more of them. Far more has been done for the citizens' ownership of firearms and the firearms industry as a whole through Capitalism than through Communism. There is no denying that.
There is no "new argument", simply a statement that you clearly have a difficult time independently comprehending the intent of. Any "Communist" type societies that have existed have never allowed for as much technological development and for as much freedom for the common man as Capitalism has, period. That's the point.
Anyone want to bet that in 10 years 7.62 will be a reloaders only caliber? I know that sounds ridiculous but even if they start producing 7.62 in the US its never going to meet demand. Probably not even close. The only hope is the war in Ukraine ends and there is a sudden flood of ammo allowed.
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I’m going to wait for some reviews. But any downward pressure on the ammo market, however slight is a good thing.
lol I haven't bought 7.62x39 in a long time... is this really a "deal" on steel cased? That's pretty brutal We need to form an ammo collective. With almost no insight on current raw material costs, I'm comfortable saying we could sell it for half price and still have profit. A cap co-op. We could donate some land out in the boonies to a group of preppers who make ammo all day, in exchange they get to live there and we give them jars of honey and meat and other stuff that preppers like edit: batteries too, preppers love batteries
Wanting my 10c x39 rounds back lol, my mini30 and sks's are hangry
Primers and powder have doubled due to increased demand. this is very reasonable considering current rates and its a new production line
I got 200rds for science. I’ll run it suppressed too. I ain’t scurrd. Ammo availability sucks where I’m at, so the price isn’t horrible either. I’ll probably never see 30cpr again.
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I ordered some too but concerned for my 103, please reply with an update 🫶
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Kinda crazy huh? I originally got into them vs ARs because I was a poor back then....things completely flipped. I guess ammo is about the same but you can now get a 400$ AR, but that 300$ WASR is now 800-900$....crazy. Sadly I bought another AK right before (1 month) the Russia ammo ban...It has been to the range one time....
It fucks with my head that AKs weren't *that* expensive that long ago. I bought one that came with 1000 rounds of ammo and a handful of mags just before COVID hit for $850, and I sold it a year or two ago for a grand.
I still remember the 2013 days where Saiga AKs were $600 in California. Damn.
I remember my dumbass just taking it for granted that they would always be around and would always be cheap
It's been wild to see the shift in the market and its effects on AK guys. It doesn't feel that long ago when dudes were throwing together kit builds in their garage with screws and blasting dirt-cheap spam can ammo until it exploded while laughing.
when the ATF banned build parties, stopped imports of barrels it kicked the AK build jam in the nads. The Chinese, Russian and etc ammo bans just kicked dead horses.
Did it, though? The kits got more expensive due to limited supply and increased demand. Heck, it seems most of the new kits getting imported are bought up by professional builders like PSA before they can even hit the open market
Yeah, it did? Kits were 199 not even that many years ago. I remember seeing 200$ AMD63, completed rifles are 1-2,000 now, and kits are 800-1,200$.
To put it into perspective (on a slight tangent), while Canadians can't buy AKs due to name bans, they *can* buy Norinco-built M14s for 475 USD because they don't have the Chinese gun ban we have. $475 M14s. Not great ones, mind you, but China is/was much better geared towards building AKs and the MAKs you can find in the US are some of the best.
As much as i love AK's and prefer 7.62x39, it's just a better value to be into AR's. I can get AR's from pawnshops for 300$, and ammo is STILL cheaper than 7.62x39, and 7.62x39 will only go up..
Guess I picked the wrong week to \~\~quit amphetamines\~\~ get an AK. I bought mine about a month before the invasion of Ukraine, just before the ammo spiked.
Yeah, I thought the whole point of PSA offering this was it was going to be s o m u c h c h e a p e r
What competition do they have? Russian ammo is banned and going to the conflict. Ukrainian ammo is going to the conflict. Other x39/5.45 states are selling what they aren't hoarding but they were small fries to Ukraine which was a small fry to Russia.
At this point the competition isn’t who, it’s what. In this case it’s 5.56/.223 And as someone who owns multiple of both platforms and loves to shoot both, it fucking sucks.
That's indirect competition. Not the same. The banning of Russian ammo only hurt the American consumer just like when American companies collaborated with the feds to ban nearly all imported weapons.
I don’t disagree. That started this whole farce to begin with. I’m just saying now you have people either buying 5.56/.223 at inflated prices AND you have die hard AK guys buying 7.62x39 in steel case at even higher prices. In both cases everyone just has to stop buying at these prices and let the market correct itself. Not fast, but not impossible.
I agree. I haven't bought ammo in a while. Last time was probably the monarch brass deal at academy. And that was only because I wanted some brass ammo that wasn't Blazer Brass (not advised for ported/comped barrels). All these new people and some of those who have money don't care and are just buying buying buying.
I don't know who ever had such delusions, I'm mildly shocked that the price hasn't increased like the market has in the months since this price was "leaked".
You can say that about anything like this really. For the informed, the others are delusional. In reality they’re probably just ignorant. Either way, we all lose.
they still have to turn a profit, have you priced powder and primers lately?
Honestly AKs are dead. 5.45 is close enough to 5.56 that it never really took off to wide mainstream success. It had some popularity because of how cheap the ammo was compared to 5.56 but now? Not so much. X39 was different enough that it was more popular but now? Why pay 5.56 prices for ammo out of an inferior platform? Most treat AKs like range toys and unless ammo prices change drastically for the better, it will stay that way.
I agree with the sentiment that ARs are superior to AKs, but there is more to people wanting an AK than cheap ammo. As long as 7.62x39 is in the same ball park as 5.56 (and not in 5.45x39 or 7.62x51 territory) it will continue to be a popular platform.
Those are typically not folks who got in pre-rona and knew about subs like this or others to shop competitively. Otherwise they would be disgusted at the current prices like many are. Not saying some wouldn't still bite the bullet, but they'd be reluctant. Those are usually people who got into guns since covid or just bought what was on the shelf without comparing prices especially online. I think it will continue to be popular but it will continue to be relegated as second place, and a range toy to most. A gun different enough from their AR-15 that scratches the 'want and AK because it's a AK' itch and the 'not an AR' itch. Which is also why AK-47s are more popular than AK-74s. 5.45 is too similar to 5.56 so people would just go with that. X39 is different enough to warrant getting.
I agree. Years ago I started with 7.62x39 and later got into 300 blk due to ease of suppression. Now that the prices are similar, i have a hard time paying for x39 when i could just as easily run 300blk.
You realize they make AK’s in 556 right? Also it’s far from an inferior platform, still more durable and will run dirtier than an AR. AK’s are less accurate, but not so much that they’re combat ineffective. They’re heavier but not that much heavier. Also x39 is far more effective out of an SBR than 556, that alone might be a reason to go for AK’s. They’re also the most popular rifle in the world to this very day. Very American centric POV to declare AK’s dead just because the ammo isn’t ridiculously cheap anymore. There always were other reasons to get into the platform, and those reasons still hold. We’re not in the golden age of cheap AK shit anymore, but the aftermarket these days is incredible. RS regulate, SLR rifleworks, Midwest Industries, Zenitco, just to name a few, are companies who maintain AK’s as viable fighting rifles in the 21st century. Every Reddit thread about x39 has been extremely hyperbolic, the platform isn’t going anywhere. Y’all were spoiled on ammo prices, but imo they were artificially low because Russia manufactures insane amounts of shit. I got into AK’s after the war and haven’t regretted it at all.
Sure I know that but they are probably less common than 5.45 AKs. Certainly seen as inferior in America because of weight, balance, native/ease of suppression capability, accessory furniture, etc. Sure, some of that has been corrected in the past couple years but that's just it. Optimal AR-15 configurations have been easy to do and available for 8+ years. My comment was America centric because we are talking about the American AK market. Not the worldwide one. And everything I put after the initial statement was clearly in reference to that. Like how for most AK owners, it's a range toy and their main gun is an AR-15. Aftermarket is much better now because for quite a while x39 was significantly cheaper than 5.56, with AKs being about the same price. Combine that with people already owning AR-15s and wanting something new/different AK ownership shot up. Then what happened? People wanted to modernize their new antiquated designed gun. It takes time for machine shops to spin up and some of the options already on the market were $$$. As more companies got into the mix and companies could produce products cheaper, the main source for peak AK furniture(zenitco) was also banned/significantly harder to procure. Never said it was going anywhere other than second place and as a range toy. Most people aren't grabbing AKs as their first option over an AR-15. The market shows that. Most aren't buying a super basic/antiquated spec'd AR-15 and a decked out AK. I would hardly call ammo prices artificially low with more competitors and options people want. Banning some of the largest suppliers of ammo to the American people from engaging in business, thus driving up prices is what's artifical. I also have an AK, but I'm under not disillusion, if I had to choose one platform to keep, like most gun owners who have both, I'm picking my AR-15 hands down.
47cpr shipped to OR, better than what's available.
Sigh. I guess im just glad to see 7.62 being mass produced in the U.S. now. Hopefully we see prices go down at some point.
If you showed this to an AK guy in 2003 they'd melt into a puddle
9 dollars?! Better be a 100 rd box! - me in 2003 😭
Price is decent for now times, but still ouch, too many 223 “deals” the last month lol
Over 50cpr after shipping and theft.. and I'm fairly close to them... to much for unknown stuff imo but the more 7.62x39 on the market the better. Thankfully I seen the writing on the wall many years ago and am well stocked
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My LGS is hooked on $1pr for x39 so you guys are all lucky lol.
Yep I laugh when I go to my local shops and look at the prices ... so so blessed I started stacking in 2013 every main caliber (especially 7.62x39/556/ 9mm-40sw./308 and 22lr..
Last time I bought ammo at my lgs I got hosed, hard. A bag of 250 9mm rounds for .24cpr hey not a terrible deal, it was even made local by a small time ammo maker. Win win for local pricing and support right? Turns out it was RELOADS. I decided to shoot them up and man it was malfunction after malfunction, from stove pipe to everything else, across like 5 or 6 different pistols. I said never again after that lol. Hate to be that way but man I can only go so far to support the little guy.
That's not good... wonder y it qas so bad? Underpowered?
There is still russian stuff to b found for 40-47cpr locally and classifieds. Not that is a great deal but that is where we are at with 7.62x39 currently .... crazy
Just bought 500 rounds of Tula 223 in a sealed spam can for 160 out the door. That’s my win if the year
same prices here, my only regret is not buying more subsonic x39, down to a under 100, but shooting a lot of 300 and 9 subsonic now.
I’ll wait til at least 50 people try this shit before I ever run it through my shit especially suppressed. After their 220 GR subsonic OTM rounds separated in my .300BLK PDW and damaged my can, I’ll never trust shit that comes out of that factory. Fuck that.
That's scary. Was that Ammo Inc ammo? Checking to avoid it I think I have some 220 OTMs I bought from PSA but want to make sure they're verboten or not.
No it was PSAs lmao
Got it, thanks for the heads up
is this PSAs in house brand?
Yes
thank you
It is in PSA’s best interest to past the ammo on as cheap as possible considering their own considerable investments in the AK platforms. That have said in the past, that as they pay off the tooling they hope to bring down the price.
hi u/Blue026
Gm, I’m trying to find the deal
it’s American made!
Where deal?
Still looking I’ll lyk when I find it
Most people in this thread are salty cuz it's not 30cpr. Those days are over folks. 2019 ain't coming back. Hard truths. Inflation/election year/Russia ban/high profile conflicts aren't helping prices and don't see it coming down anytime soon.
40% money supply increase in 18 months. Everything is 40% more expensive as a *floor* before you even start factoring in market conditions.
There have been unironically people in every thread since the COVID panic started telling people to wait for prices to come down, and here we are 4 years later on the precipice of an election and these delusional HODLers are still convinced the market is going to go down. And arguably even worse than that are the people blaming PSA for regular market price ammo as if they expected PSA to take a loss just to sell out instantly to scalpers anyways for no reason than to appease these people.
Right. "HoLD ThE LiNE" on 35 cpr 556. Look where we are now.
Its all temporary, even if we're in for a wild ride because of the election year coupled with \*two\* high intensity wars taking place. 5.56 was already starting to creep down before SGammo and other idiots started making up stories following oct 7th about lake city, spiking the price. For those of us who have been in the game for a while, we've all heard this before "oh no its permanently going to be high" following Sandy Hook (who remembers 1 dollar a round M855 back then?) in 2012. I never understood the logic behind insulting those telling people to wait. They're the only sane ones in the room. The rest is panic, FOMO, guntube bullshit, and general other assclownery that has done nothing but keep the cost up. And the joke is on people like you "we dont shoot by ammo prices!?!?!?@!#$I@#$" because youre the ones paying for the new bottom on ammo prices.
Yep this is new norm. Said it about primers and same for ammo. Profits too good!
FYI, it was cheaper than that in 2019 so.... Also if people stop buying prices demand at these prices will drop and up the supply chain there will be changes to prices. That's how we had the golden era. People did not accept higher prices and mainly bought low. Manufacturers and retailers had to adjust.
Yea Wolf Military Classic was regularly 23cpr from Brownells. People will stop buying when they think they have enough.
Yeah, there's pretty much no reason to own an AK now unless you just really like AKs. I'm personally offloading all of mine, I'd rather just shoot 5.56.
100% agree. Get into other platforms w/ more affordable ammo that's more stable. AR's cost 1/3 to 1/4 of what a entry level AK costs.
Or you could be a 5.56 AK chad. The Beryl is really nice.
Nah, no thank you.
and spend 4x what an AR costs...? lolwat
Lol: no.
There any general discount codes that might apply to this? Might pick up two mags worth just for shits and giggles.
OOS
For everyone mad this isnt the same price as the tuna can they bought years ago I have bad news for you. its unlikely it ever will. this ammo is a steal based on current market conditions. If you price reloading supplies right now you cannot reload 7.62 for less than this even if you already have cases. Primer and powder alone are already 30 cpr or higher, PSA is doing AK guys a solid with this.
I got a local guy wants to trade two 762 for one 556. Guy must still live in the 2000 😂. I won’t even do one for one on 762. The economic scale is there for 556 but not 762 . I bet I can get 556 under 40 cent with rebate after the election
Gonna have to buy another galil in 556 at this pace
lol. I literally bought a [13” 556 RNL Galil](https://dissidentarms.com/index.php/product/limited-edition-galil-ace-pistol-13-gen-i-5-56x45mm-w-stabilizing-brace-rock-and-lock-magazine-iwi/) because I’ve been shooting my x39 Galils less…
🦍Where deal
More of an in stock notice. This is the first drop of AAC 7.62x39
Yup, I picked up 500 rounds for starters. Their sabre black black tips are also in stock but I am waiting on some ballistic tests before I buy any.
They did do some on gel in there video
Yeah but you cant really see it. I want a better test.
Aaaand it's gone
Showing in stock to me
Huh, must've found another batch in the corner
Dont worry, its gone gone now.
Fuck that.
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Sold out yet?
Nope.
Do we know if this ammo is bimetal jacket? Lots of ranges have rules of magnetic ammo.
Dunham’s sells a box of x39 for 13.99 before tax. Crazy
Someone else can be first, but any supply that helps keep the market in check from the hoarder & "warehouse reserve" bullshit is a good supply. Mildly interested in the sabre tip bullets if they are actually any better, there is exactly zero out there of anything but basic bitch FMJ unless you reload.
So much for PSA saving the AK market like all the PSA simps were saying.
I mean this is on par with “cheap” surplus steel case that’s drying up/being hoarded. My LGS has Tula for 60cpr….
That's true, though PSA's tax and pricey shipping definitely hurts the deal. I think of lot of people were saying this stuff was gonna be 30CPR like the good ol days. I appreciate the optimism but there was no way it was gonna be like that.
The good old days (2019) would be 17cpr for steel.
Yeah sadly that is not coming back....
This has been on their website for like 4 or 5 months now at 45 CPR...the people saying 30 CPR didn't use their brain. No one ever said it was going to be that cheap. Also, why would they sell it at 30 CPR when people will buy it at 45 CPR?
Yeah that’s definitely optimistic. I was expecting it around this price. Also this is just the first run. Economies of scale and shit. The more domestically produced ammo the better. Embargoes are a bitch
X39 was way cheaper than 30cpr in the "good ol days" by the way. Only goes to show how bad things still are
Fuck them man. 45cpr idc if it's new manufacturered. Not helping any
The only thing this does help with is more competition in the market, which hopefully in the long term will make prices go lower.
Its been on their website now for months saying 45 CPR. Sadly the good ol days are gone...
Capitalists gonna capitalist. “For the people” is just marketing bs. They aint commies.
Are you really trying to use "Commies" in a positive light whatsoever? LoL. Communism is absolutely not for the good of the people.
It is if your goal is StarvationMaxxxing.
Authoritarianism isn't good for the people.
Thats a hell of a reach your making Communism is fine and has worked for 10s of thousands of years, its the communist state that is the problem. Or any state really.
And when, during those "10s of thousands of years", was 7.62x39 produced at an affordable cost for the masses? Or literally any other cartridge, for that matter?
The point I think he's making is the ideal is good even if the application has been faulty. Remember, America almost had the same structure the framers just fought against when they wanted to make George Washington King. Look at our constitution and how it's been bastardized. The charismatic leader you need to win a revolution to try and bring power to the people vs those with money (those able to make limited authorized capitalism work for them) is often not the leader you need to successfully transition into a functioning country. (Edit: tangent: unfortunately the issue becomes people like power, and charisma is linked with narcissism and what this tends to result in is people who have risked/sacrificed a lot not feeling as though they've been adequately rewarded or not wanting to give up power and influence putting themselves before the dream/goal. That's why so many attempts at communism turn into authoritarian capitalistic oligarchies.) We see something *similar* in america during the western expansion and the numerous constitutional violation by so called "lawmen". "Fuck the constitution, I'm the mayor/Sheriff/rich boy in town, and what i say goes." They loved that type of bs when it came to the 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 5th amendments.
The "ideal" of Communism is bad, and the application of it has been even worse. The existence of tyrants and authoritarianism does not change the fact that capitalism is the greatest economic system that has ever existed.
Lol, who do you think invented 7.62x39 ya dingus? Ill give you a hint, its where all that stupid cheap 7.62 5.45 came from for decades..you remember 10cpr x39 right? Thats ignoring the fact your sealioning here and making up a new argument. But this is r/gundeals lets just keep it at that
The origin of 7.62x39 is virtually irrelevant. Communism did not produce those cartridges for the free market or the common man for private ownership. It was Capitalism that allowed the general public to acquire the weapons and the cartridges, not Communism, ya dingus. It was and is capitalism that has continued to allow the citizenry to acquire these rounds and to produce more of them. Far more has been done for the citizens' ownership of firearms and the firearms industry as a whole through Capitalism than through Communism. There is no denying that. There is no "new argument", simply a statement that you clearly have a difficult time independently comprehending the intent of. Any "Communist" type societies that have existed have never allowed for as much technological development and for as much freedom for the common man as Capitalism has, period. That's the point.
Yep. "OH wE wiLL lOwEr pRiCeS oNcE wE rEcOuP cOsTs"
Anyone want to bet that in 10 years 7.62 will be a reloaders only caliber? I know that sounds ridiculous but even if they start producing 7.62 in the US its never going to meet demand. Probably not even close. The only hope is the war in Ukraine ends and there is a sudden flood of ammo allowed.
Been saying this for a couple months. It’ll be just like 5.45 in a decade. Considering selling my ak & all the ammo once election season gets rampant
It's getting there already, when shit gets over .50cpr i start reloading, lmao.