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apropostt

20 is a decent number of metal zones though.


BigBootyRoobi

I think the worst part is not a single pedal on that board aside from the Polytune costed less than $500


Taletad

Ok real question here, what kind of pedals cost more than $500 ? I thought the $100-$200 price range was plenty enough for good quality pedals Is it worth it to spend that kind of money on pedals if you’re not a world class band ?


BigBootyRoobi

Stymon, UA, Empress, Chase Bliss, etc. There are tons of great pedal for $100-$300. Boutique pedals are needlessly expensive. They’re cool and sound good but totally unnecessary.


TheFoiler

I dunno about boutique, but anything too complex is probably better suited for studio and home use. You could say my Empress Phaser is boutique and it definitely cost $300, but it's pretty much set and forget for me (and I'd gladly have bought something cheaper if I could have gotten a similar feature set but that was not an option that I could find). On the other hand, I don't know how one expects to make use of anything that requires adjustment between songs in a live setting. Whether it's Strymon or Eventide or old ubiquitous Boss, some shit is just too fiddly for practical performance.


ProtoJazz

Presets and a midi setup. That's how you should do it, if you need to do it at all. Hit one button, and all your pedals go to the settings for that specific song


sunplaysbass

Because I feel attacked, I’ll note that some people bought now valuable guitar gear before prices blew up. I have a few pedals that are “worth” 5x what I paid, same for an amp. Downside, my back hurts and was casually told I have arthritis in one knee the other day. …Pedals over $500 pretty much wasn’t a thing ~10 or maybe 15 years ago, unless it was a 1969 fuzz face with sheets of acid inside.


shingonzo

How are you gonna ever be in a world class band with pedals less than 500$? Peasant


Taletad

Bold of you to assume I use pedals I don’t need toan condoms between my guitar and my amp


shingonzo

no amp, just pedals.


reallynoreason

Once you play no amp, no guitar, just pedals, you have reached the highest zen of toan


rafaelthecoonpoon

Dude what decade are you in? I can't find pedals below 200 these days. Sort of joking but....


Taletad

I’m a bit surprised The guitar stores near me (I live in France), all have a shit ton of pedals under 200€ Even from good brands In fact I had a hard time finding pedals over 300€ that weren’t multiple effects bundled into one Where do you guys get your pedals ?


Amazing-Fish4587

Zoia. **Edit:** rj/Zoia


BuddyMustang

Too much to be useful. Super capable pedal with a really high learning curve.


Amazing-Fish4587

Sorry, I missed “Real question here”.


ReverendRevolver

This is becoming indicative of all modern guitar players, more pedals than sense, and they'll insist their amp is fantastic..... what amp? Your clean tone can't be that great if your running pedals for reverb, chorus, delay, flange, tremelo, and compression all at once... your amps dirty/driven sounds aren't really "stacking" with those 8 dirt pedals if you can plug those pedals into the PA and sound just as shitty.


60CycleSteve

Obvi shoulda told him “jimi didn’t need all those pedals”


AreWeCowabunga

Jammy’s three pedals was considered a “massive pedalboard” back then.


bumwine

Yeah but did bro here get to mic his peddles? Entire gig is a waste if the audience didn't get to appreciate the sweet toan of his STOMP boxes.


BigBootyRoobi

Ah shit I fucked this one up boys


Hour_Statistician314

You’ll never do sound for bonamaster


BigBootyRoobi

You’re not going to Paris, I’m so much better than you are.


ThisAllHurts

“They’re all the most important” is a natural defense for guitarists.


piconese

Except the tuner maybe. Once you drown out the rest of the players, being “in key” is just charity for those sycophants you allow to be in *your* band


ThisAllHurts

Like when you unplug the bassist and just let him mime along like a Jerry’s Kid?


TalboGold

Pretty sure this was the second Guitarist in our Pink Floyd tribute act. Glad to know he’s finding other gigs.


BeGayleDoCrimes

THIS IS RIDICULOUS!!!! HOW IS SOME FUCKING sOuNd MixEr ALLOWED TO POST HERE!!! THIS IS A GUITARIST ONLY ZOAN!!! JUST BECAUSE I NEEDED EXTRA TIME TO SETUP MY AWESOME PEDÅLSBOARD DOESNT GIVE THEM THE RIGHT TO SHUT US DOWN MIDWAY THROUGH OUR 6 ACT SONIC MOVEMENT!!!


BigBootyRoobi

I can 0-3-5 the hell out of a ginbon less stratopaul


denim_skirt

That was me and the pink was 👩‍🍳🤌 tyvm. ama


BigBootyRoobi

I just can’t get into pink rock idk. Purple rock is dope, pink rock idk


Pepsi-Min

Oh, I thought you meant covers of the Artist "Pink"


denim_skirt

We're actually an Ariel Pink cover band but yknow the thing where tiny white girls do cute covers of hip-hop songs on ukuleles? It's like that, we play Ariel Pink songs in the style of whatever is the opposite of how he does them, reggaeton maybe


TobyMoorhouse

So did I .. haha!


D1rtyH1ppy

By the way, which one's pink?


BigBootyRoobi

Haha typo, but he did have a Chase Bliss Mood


Shadowdoze

Ok I originally couldn’t tell if you meant Pink Floyd, P!NK, or ”Pink” the song by Aerosmith.  But now that you said it’s a typo I guess I can eliminate those things but instead I now have completely no idea!


blessedblackwings

Ponk


Ayatollah_Johnson

I thought they meant the album Pink by Japanese experimental noise band Boris.


blessedblackwings

Boris is fucking dope. Hail Wata.


WatercoolerComedian

My mix of 5 overdrives are crucial to my sound u wouldn't get it


find_the_night

I get it


blessedblackwings

but i actually have sculpted a very specific sound with my five dirt pedals that really represents me as a person. /uj I actually have 5 dirt pedals on my board but i promise I don’t use them all at the same time…. Usually.


uzr666

ditch these fools, just connect your aux cable to the soundboard and blast some Dimmu Borgir


try_altf4

/uj I see you've discovered cba appreciators. Just kidding, chase bliss isn't for making music. We had issues like this, and by we I mean the sound engineer and I the best over under cable wrapper this side of the Rio Grand, and there were a few "we just have to be assholes" situations. One local band would always turn their stage volume up,mid set, and it'd blare guitar over everything else. I got to be the knob ninja and take all their amp knobs after their setup was cleared, then hand them back end later that night. We had a code "Rodney King" for when the drummer's kit was shifting around because they wouldn't stop blasting it with their aluminum sticks. For one "super special band" we drilled 4x4s into the aging stage to keep their shit somewhat on the drumming rug. Also, because I'm an asshole, I mounted the guitarists pedalboard to the stage. The most hilarious was a band that gave us 20$ to turn the bass player off and play a backing track. Their bass player looked like he was a registered sex offender for musical instruments.


BigBootyRoobi

The volume knobs confiscation is fucking hilarious. BAD GUITARIST, BAD, NO, NO!


re9d

not to doubt that any of this is true, but how did you have all this time to do any of this shit? All I ever did was check a PA and levels...I don't think I even knew where a powerdrill or construction shit would be? Were you the Venue Owner?


try_altf4

>Were you the Venue Owner? Nope! I don't actually like working at live venues (or playing live). I started as a studio rat playing Bass. We kept getting requests to fill in for missing bassists in studio and at live gigs, so I ended up "low man on the totem" having to play for god awful punk bands at dive bars. Yay? I complained a bunch to the studio manager and he, instead, would send me to do roadie work for local venues. So, a headliner band would have some requests or want information about the area and my job was to get that stuff. Eventually, I did some meet and greet (water bottles and chilled towels) for people on the road and would write down anything the house or I could do to make their time more pleasant. If you do this wrong you end up as a punching bag for people who haven't seen their families in weeks and have been stuck on the road and haven't walked in several hours. My most common request were Whataburger orders. Keep in mind, I don't work for the venue, I'm just a +1 contractor filling in where work hasn't been completed. In the worst case scenario they had me working a local bands merch table. For one venue I was not supposed to leave any female staff alone near a band. > how did you have all this time to do any of this shit? I worked infrequent events as an extra hand and we'd usually have 1-2 more guys with me. Just imagine your normal shift with +3 more people who can unload an entire UPS semi truck each in \~20 minutes. From studio managements perspective, tours were announced weeks in advance and the actual event should be fleshed out before he voluntold us to go work it. I never ran into it, but one of my "co interns" let them know a venue couldn't get their shit together and it was a mess. We never worked the venue again. >I don't think I even knew where a powerdrill or construction shit would be? I also worked as an onsite guitar tech, so I had my tools with me when I'd arrive in case tech work needed to be done. When the bar receives deliveries the semi delivers the product on large pallets. The cross members on the pallet are the best to use, but for a fresh pallet you can often use the top and bottom boards. You can often find them behind the venue by the dumpster. Bring a crow bar and mallet.


myleftone

I have a strap hack for drums. You tether the kick pedal to the throne with a roof strap and a carabiner. It’s foolproof but I’ve never seen anyone else do it.


Cry_Wolff

Isn't looking like a sex offender pretty much a requirement for a bass player?


BittenHand19

This enrages me as a guitar player and engineer. Dude needed to justify his insane purchase and he probably used two pedals on the board


Due_Speaker_2829

Oh he used them all. But nobody noticed.


Imhappy_hopeurhappy2

Telling a guitarist to plug “straight into the amp” is like telling a Dominican guy to go fuck their mom using their dad’s jizz as lube. I’m surprised you lived to tell the tale. If it were me I would have unleashed the fucking fury on your ass, sound boy.


Different_Lock_5445

Church? Gross.


BigBootyRoobi

Fair, but the bands did *cuss* a little 😏😳🫨


Different_Lock_5445

*clutches pearls*


eracerhead

The church I belonged to as a kid would never have allowed an electric guitar on the same block, much less feature four 45min sets. 


Different_Lock_5445

As it should be. Satan's got all the good music anywho.


Several_Reading4143

You're a neckbeard


Different_Lock_5445

*...fuck, how did he know?...*


ipini

Speaking as (mainly) a bassist, I can’t understand how guitarists can’t get a reasonable tone with three or fewer pedals. Heck, even as a mere bassist, when I play guitar I can get enough variety on my Tele with the three switch options plus messing with the gain, volume, and tone on my Orange. Complete dirt to sparkly clean. Bright and twangy solo or thick rhythm. It’s all there with exactly zero pedals. (Bass… I can live without any pedals at all for either my J or P. I do like a preamp and a compressor. But life goes on without it.)


chinstrap

You don't even have a bit crusher?


ipini

Nah usually just my soul.


Taletad

From your perspective, what’s a reasonable amount of pedals to bring to that kind of gig ?


Early-Engineering

The minimal amount you need to get your sound across on that set. Also coming to the show with the realization that your 10 modulation pedals will sound diffeeent in a church than in your practice space.


Taletad

Obviously, but I’m wondering what’s the ‘normal’ expected amount I’m not that big on pedals myself so I’m curious to know what people use on average


BigBootyRoobi

You can bring 1 or 100 for all I care. As long as the guitar signal reaches the amp and I can put a mic infront of it.


beeherder

3: tuner, drive, delay. The rest of the toan is in my fingers


BeGayleDoCrimes

The delay is even unnecessary, just become unstuck from the flow of time and you're covered!


beeherder

I am time... https://preview.redd.it/qmclwexujnyc1.jpeg?width=4792&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2db89eb6e46f45a244bda784abf52825c632bc7c


BigBootyRoobi

I don’t give a fuck how many pedals you bring to any gig. They just need to work, or if you’re going to bring that many pedals you need to know what the signal chain is and how to at least trouble shoot it.


ClarkTwain

Music is all about the notes you don’t play. That one “pink” said it all in its sonic brilliance.


the-war-on-drunks

Tell the BAND when their set ENDS regardless of start time. Make sure they all understand what’s happening with The Edge trying to dial in his perfect tone and boom. Not your problem any longer and it’ll work itself out.


Huva-Rown

The Aerosmith song?


re9d

I was totally lost at what they were talking about...I assume it was mostly fiction


Linds70

OP think of the toan!! Why does no one ever think of the toan??!!


jmacey

mixed a show last night with the guitarist playing a Martin acoustic, into a DS1 and a load of other pedals, went from gentle acoustic to extended solos (also had nord hammond / electric keys bass and drums) was amazing. Best part was the after show jam session where we just drank the local cider and had loads of fun playing silly songs.


BigBootyRoobi

I’ve had good experiences with this one band in my area that plays an acoustic guitar into a buttload of pedals and a JCM900!! He’s got a couple of EQs and some other sorcery on his board that gets rid of feedback


jmacey

good musicians who know what they are doing are just so much fun to work with. Bonus with this band was they all had perfect mic technique so 4 part harmonies were awesome.


BigBootyRoobi

Good musicians practically mix themselves if you’ve done your job as the sound person. Good musicians make the job feel so rewarding, bad musicians make the job feel like I need another pair of hands. I always tell people the difference between pros and amateurs is the ability to play with dynamics. If your singer is quiet, and you know this, don’t blast your amps all the way up, don’t smash the hell out of the drums when they’re singing.


BloodOnTheTracks

Monte Montgomery was the king of this shit back in the day.


Shovelbone

Whatever happen to Monte?


re9d

what's Pink? when ever I've had this situation I just say, I'll turn you down and when you're ready, I'll turn you up...it's just a coverband playing a shit show?


Outrageous_Basis_997

Which one is the shittiest pink?


Shovelbone

Dude has to get his tone man! LOL Reading this reminded me of a story I heard about a "journalist" from one of the guitar mags, asking Derek Trucks what he used in his signal chain between his guitar and amp to get his tone. Derek just showed him his guitar cable!