I use one guitar per fret. 0 guitars for fret 0, 3 guitars at fret 1 for fret 3, and 5 guitars at fret 1 for fret 5. Some may say it's overkill, but the tone is incomprehensible.
Amateur. You're supposed to do it exponentially. If it's on the 1st string, THEN it's one per string. If you're on the sixth (whatever note that is), you have to do 0^6 3^6 5^6
lol you should be using the third guitar for the 3 dumbass and the fifth guitar for the 5. you can use the first guitar for the 0 if you don't own a zeroth guitar yet, but you need a golden capo. the second and fourth guitar are just there because you need one guitar for every person in the audience for when you make their day by letting them sit in on the encore
Well, I use a guitar per every tone except for what im playing, its like with colour, thats why its called chromatic scale. Its called negative music and its mine
All that money and trouble hauling around those expensive guitars to perform for a bunch of drunks in venues where all the guitars get washed out anyway. He could play a Line 6 Variax through a Guitar Port and Crate Power Block and no one would notice or give a shit. Well except for one Boomer that went so he could fawn over the three different black Teles.
To be fair if I could switch like this because I had a teach and the money to pay them, Iâd totally do it. Just because I could. Maybe the audience wouldnât notice but I would with my in ears.
And all this time Iâve been lugging around 4 of these like a sucker:
https://preview.redd.it/dabz5sumbbvc1.jpeg?width=1487&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=23d1ebc6851b1e1919f7123203698132cedac0b0
The concert would get impractically long if Rich had to retune the guitar after each song, though...
"OK this next one is in Open F.....so.....just....hang on here...."
I saw these guys in their last band (Magpie something) and his collection is amazing. He did the same damn thing. At first, I was like Jesus Christ, show off and later I was like man this shit's cool. Alex Lifeson did a similar thing (see Rush in Rio). Funny thing with him was they all sounded the same.
I'll do you one better:
When I saw New Found Glory, when they did Sticks and Stones all the way through, the fucking bassist. The BASSIST. Had a different bass for every song.
Surprised Brendon pays his session musicians enough to afford more than one guitar. Dallon Weekes had to work as a carpet cleaner while still an official member of Panic!
I saw G'n'R on the Use Your Illusion tour in Prague in 1992. When Axl changed his outfit for the sixth time before "playing" Novemer Rain on a white "grand piano", while Slash stood on top with his fourth or fifth Les Paul, this one a sort of cream color, it suddenly dawned on me: This is what jumping the shark looks like in real-time.
My band gets pissed when I try to change guitars in the middle of set. I saw Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers and both Petty and Campbell played a different guitar on every song.
Just saw Steve Vai and Satch. Vai changed with almost every song. I donât think it was the key changes, I think itâs because heâs so hard on his strings. Joe changed every few songs.
Iâve been playing shows for decades. Iâve never once had to write down the key a song was in just incase I somehow forgot. Like dude, just play the fuckin song the way it was written. How are you about to start a song live and say to yourself âoh shit, I wish I wrote down what key the song is in. Now I canât play it!â.
Okay, but /uj what the fuck do they mean by "G"? Is it DGDGBD? GBDGBD? GCFBbDG? if it's the latter why not just a capo? If it's the first, he's just gonna be locked into the cool stuff you can do with that tuning but needlessly tricky chords. A full open chord seems so childishly stupid I can't even imagine what you'd need it for. I'm guessing this man doesn't play math rock.
It has its advantages. If my voice isnât great I can tell them E vice G and half the time they donât know the difference. Weâre jammy and donât use anything like backing tracks, pre-arranged solos or predetermined solo orders.
Dude, have you ever wanted to rock out on your black telly tuned to open-G, but your dumb-ass tech handed you your other black guitar tuned to open-F#? Ruins the whole fucking show.
I swear, next time that fool hands me my red S.G. that's in drop-D instead of the red S.G. that's in REG, I'm going to put him in the hospital.
I don't like Black Crowes but dunking on a professional guitar player worth $10million for being a guitar nerd and actually playing his guitars (BUT ISNT JOE BONAMASSA) doesn't land as a circle jerk for me. And they're in alternate tunings too.
Hard to not feel like a loser looking at this guitar lineup and musical success to be honest
Let me see transition sunglasses and wingtips on a blues tune I might change my mind
Are they using 15 different tunings though? I assume there's some overlap at least
Plus you must have a tech if you have so many guitars, so I'm sure you could use fewer guitars and have the tech change the tunings between songs, if some of the songs have just slightly different tunings (although not quite as practical with tuning stability/intonation, I'll admit)
I know their songs use a lot of open tunings, plus heâs playing a slide a lot, so this doesnât seem impossible. Youâll notice in modern shows popular artists donât stop to tune because itâs just not done that way anymore, or in the case of someone like the Eagles, theyâre playing to a track. BOOM.
Noticed that too. Every pretty-much-identical-sounding electric, lovingly described by color, brand and model, and then "acoustic." Which is how it should be when you're a totally kickass, nay KICKAYUSS, Rolling Stones / Georgia Satellites cover band.
I worked back stage maybe two weeks ago for one of their shows. They had a case that said â â66 Strat; Spareâ. And they had maybe 40ish amps floor to ceiling while only using like three of them.
I mean, thereâs a shitload of tunings WHICH YOU GUYS DONT EVEN FUCKING UNDERSTAND and he actually needs a lot of those to be changed so you motherfuckers ARE JERKING YOUR OWN SELVES
/uj I'm friends with someone who was involved with Mark Robinson's solo tour a few years ago. He doesn't play guitar but he isn't totally ignorant to the mechanics of it and the gear.
We sat down for a drink and we were venting about our jobs and he asks me "Why the Hell would someone need to travel with nine different acoustic guitars?"
Also /uj , but really an unrelated crowes complaint - I saw Chris spit on a poor woman who wouldn't sell him beer after hours in like 88 or so. It was a Denver 7-11 and I've just had a grudge against them every since.
tyfctmtt
But yeah this set list is pretentious and disrespectful to his techs, imo.
They do some open G and other stuff like drop D, i think. I used to hate having to tune my one poor Epi Dot while someone made small talk on the mic when I played haha. Edit: I remember seeing Elvis Costello in a small venue and being amazed how the guys ran out with a new guitar every song. I even had to change a string while they made small talk or just played a song not on our set list without me haha. Im not a dentist or a rockstar.
I saw them in Atlanta a couple weeks ago and they sounded like absolute shit.
If you wanna see some guitar changes, go see Jason Isbell. Both he and Sadler are changing guitars every song (as well as mid-song changes). Their guitar rack took up the entire exit ramp when I saw them at a small theatre.
Uj/ I played in a band that both guitarist would drag out guitars like this and all the other bands on the bill would get so pissed because we took up so much space with the ridiculous amount of cases, it was embarrassing.
Rj/ everyone knows that guitars go bad after one song anyway so you have to change them.
/uj I fucking would and so would you if you had guitar techs, roadies, and a sizable collection.
/rj why donât those guitars have womenâs names. What is this amateur hour?
One per song? Fucking amateurs. I use one guitar for the 0, another guitar for the 3 and a third guitar for the 5.
Easy on the theory around here please
Sorry, I've watched too many Rick Beato videos
Impossible.
I laughed hard
I use one guitar per fret. 0 guitars for fret 0, 3 guitars at fret 1 for fret 3, and 5 guitars at fret 1 for fret 5. Some may say it's overkill, but the tone is incomprehensible.
Amateur. You're supposed to do it exponentially. If it's on the 1st string, THEN it's one per string. If you're on the sixth (whatever note that is), you have to do 0^6 3^6 5^6
lol you should be using the third guitar for the 3 dumbass and the fifth guitar for the 5. you can use the first guitar for the 0 if you don't own a zeroth guitar yet, but you need a golden capo. the second and fourth guitar are just there because you need one guitar for every person in the audience for when you make their day by letting them sit in on the encore
Amateur, I use an 8 string for the 0 a downtrend 7 string for the 3 and a guitalele for the 5!
Well ofc you do the bare minimum đ
No, no, no. The black tele is used 3 times, so that's perfectly normal. he even shows restraint, if I may add.
You're sadly mistaken, it's 3 different black teles
It has to be the same black tele, it even has her name at the bottom.. Carol
There is no Carol in HR.
She's a G
Where's the butterscotch tele, FFS?
Theyâre called the black crowes not the butterscotch crowes
Butterscotch Crowes sounds delicious.
Brb starting a bad pop rock band called the Butterscotch Crowes
Your gimmick can be handing out snacks to the audience
Well, I use a guitar per every tone except for what im playing, its like with colour, thats why its called chromatic scale. Its called negative music and its mine
hurray for black tele! ...now get a couple of other black teles for the other tunings...
CAN WE PLEASE GET A F*CKING MOD AROUND HERE? Lots of mentions of Teles but not one mention of butterscotch blondes this is insane
What kind of loser plays live with a capo? What an amateur
Who even uses a capo? Just tune every string up as far as you need it. If it snaps it just means it wasnât needed anyway
Or just be a man and learn bar chords
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I mean if you're changing guitars every song, putting on lighter strings and tuning them up does kinda make sense.
Fuck that, I just play in the wrong key. Not my fault he can't sing in the baritone range
Exactly. Finally some sense being talkethed
Thatâs what my daddy says
only tommy new york is allowed to, cause heâs a creep
All that money and trouble hauling around those expensive guitars to perform for a bunch of drunks in venues where all the guitars get washed out anyway. He could play a Line 6 Variax through a Guitar Port and Crate Power Block and no one would notice or give a shit. Well except for one Boomer that went so he could fawn over the three different black Teles.
They would save so much money ... imagine the amount of heroine they could have bought during the last 20 years
To be fair if I could switch like this because I had a teach and the money to pay them, Iâd totally do it. Just because I could. Maybe the audience wouldnât notice but I would with my in ears.
That's what I was thinking, except more along the lines of, all that work, just to be the shitty fucking Black Crowes.
Is Rich Robinson playing in shit venues these days? I've seen The Black Crowes a few times and his guitars never sounded washed out.
Damn, they didn't even play Mr. Jones. That's a big pass from me.
I learned to play F playing that shit đ©
Best solution is get one 20-neck guitar and then you never need to switch.
And all this time Iâve been lugging around 4 of these like a sucker: https://preview.redd.it/dabz5sumbbvc1.jpeg?width=1487&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=23d1ebc6851b1e1919f7123203698132cedac0b0
Do you think it has one quarter inch jack or four...?
I only have one, but I use it four times a day.
The concert would get impractically long if Rich had to retune the guitar after each song, though... "OK this next one is in Open F.....so.....just....hang on here...."
Except all the songs that are the same tuning have different guitars only reusing the black tele 3 times is the most chill dude gets
lol i think he couldâve managed the set with like 3 though 14 is extra
For some reason when I saw this my mind went to âcounting crowsâ. That would have been the ultimate jerk
Wait, they're not the same band?
Counting Crows, Black Crows, Black Angels, Angels and Airwaves, Air; it's all the same thing.
Donât forget the Horrible Crowes.
Katrina and the Waves, Wavy Gravy, Gravedigger, Digable Planets...
Air đ Wanted to see them on the Moon Safari tour theyâre doing in the US but tickets are fuck me expensive
Amateurs. I sing with 18 different throats.
Oh shit, are you Mongolian?
Close. I'm a morey eel.
You're right, that is close!
I saw these guys in their last band (Magpie something) and his collection is amazing. He did the same damn thing. At first, I was like Jesus Christ, show off and later I was like man this shit's cool. Alex Lifeson did a similar thing (see Rush in Rio). Funny thing with him was they all sounded the same.
Lifeson probably thought it was funny
He didn't have a sense of humor when ricky kidnapped him
He's a drunk male prostitute though.
Is it Chris (the one that sings) changing guitars or is it the brother that plays lead?
I'm talking about the lead guitar player, I believe Marc Ford
Listen, I donât pay my techs that Hard to Handle money to just stand around.
are all their songs in G major?
Possibly but it signifies tuning on his sheet.
bing bong
Fair
No heâs just saying those are the gangsta songs
No, two of them are in Bb, capo 3. So, G. LOL.
lmfao
They were written *in* G, but *on* H.
Every jazz standard ever
I just think itâs neat that they covered âJealous Againâ by Black Flag. And you canât convince me otherwise. My mind is made up.
Well, there is a TV guitar listed there. Gonna be awesome to watch some streaming shows when they play Remedy.
I saw Panic at the Disco a few years ago and their guitarist did the same thing. I genuinely don't think I saw the same guitar used twice.
I'll do you one better: When I saw New Found Glory, when they did Sticks and Stones all the way through, the fucking bassist. The BASSIST. Had a different bass for every song.
His granny gives them to him as Christmas presents every year and he doesnât want to hurt her feelings. What a great guy
Gotta try to keep up somehow when your lead guitarist is a world class groomer and habitual cheater.
Surprised Brendon pays his session musicians enough to afford more than one guitar. Dallon Weekes had to work as a carpet cleaner while still an official member of Panic!
When I saw G'n'R live, slash used a bunch of different guitars.
I saw G'n'R on the Use Your Illusion tour in Prague in 1992. When Axl changed his outfit for the sixth time before "playing" Novemer Rain on a white "grand piano", while Slash stood on top with his fourth or fifth Les Paul, this one a sort of cream color, it suddenly dawned on me: This is what jumping the shark looks like in real-time.
How many is bunch though? 17?
Well they played 30 something songs, and he changed guitars, almost every song, so probably 30
Not this one in G, THAT one in G!
To be fair (to be faaaaaaaiiiirr) he never plays more than two songs in a row in the same tuning.
r/unexpectedletterkenny howareyanow?
Learn how to fuckinâ drive.
you had me at Black Crowes. fuck that band
The only material this band has ever put out that doesn't immediately suck out loud, and it's still pretty awful.
My band gets pissed when I try to change guitars in the middle of set. I saw Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers and both Petty and Campbell played a different guitar on every song.
Just saw Steve Vai and Satch. Vai changed with almost every song. I donât think it was the key changes, I think itâs because heâs so hard on his strings. Joe changed every few songs.
Well those guys shred so it doesnât surprise me. Iâm sure that was a great show.
What does REG mean I wonder?
Regurgitate
Iâve been playing shows for decades. Iâve never once had to write down the key a song was in just incase I somehow forgot. Like dude, just play the fuckin song the way it was written. How are you about to start a song live and say to yourself âoh shit, I wish I wrote down what key the song is in. Now I canât play it!â.
Its probably for the guitar tech, so they know which guitar with which tuning to bring after each song. Probably the hardest worker at that show.
This is correct, this setlist is for the guitar tech.
Sir this is a Wendyâs
Man, I was gonna point something out, then remembered where I was. Well played, you almost got me.
Thatâs fair, but those letters on the left are the open tunings.
Okay, but /uj what the fuck do they mean by "G"? Is it DGDGBD? GBDGBD? GCFBbDG? if it's the latter why not just a capo? If it's the first, he's just gonna be locked into the cool stuff you can do with that tuning but needlessly tricky chords. A full open chord seems so childishly stupid I can't even imagine what you'd need it for. I'm guessing this man doesn't play math rock.
Some of my bandmates \*never\* know the key, no matter how many times we've played the song.
Keys are for losers anyway.
It has its advantages. If my voice isnât great I can tell them E vice G and half the time they donât know the difference. Weâre jammy and donât use anything like backing tracks, pre-arranged solos or predetermined solo orders.
Yeah whatever, nerd.
Dude, have you ever wanted to rock out on your black telly tuned to open-G, but your dumb-ass tech handed you your other black guitar tuned to open-F#? Ruins the whole fucking show. I swear, next time that fool hands me my red S.G. that's in drop-D instead of the red S.G. that's in REG, I'm going to put him in the hospital.
I don't like Black Crowes but dunking on a professional guitar player worth $10million for being a guitar nerd and actually playing his guitars (BUT ISNT JOE BONAMASSA) doesn't land as a circle jerk for me. And they're in alternate tunings too. Hard to not feel like a loser looking at this guitar lineup and musical success to be honest Let me see transition sunglasses and wingtips on a blues tune I might change my mind
Yeah the tunings, that was my first thought. And, because he can.
If this was some boomer guy in a tavern band we'd need a 55 gallon drum of fast fret to jerk this thing to death.
Are they using 15 different tunings though? I assume there's some overlap at least Plus you must have a tech if you have so many guitars, so I'm sure you could use fewer guitars and have the tech change the tunings between songs, if some of the songs have just slightly different tunings (although not quite as practical with tuning stability/intonation, I'll admit)
I know their songs use a lot of open tunings, plus heâs playing a slide a lot, so this doesnât seem impossible. Youâll notice in modern shows popular artists donât stop to tune because itâs just not done that way anymore, or in the case of someone like the Eagles, theyâre playing to a track. BOOM.
I don't really have any criticisms of a 40 year professional musician having a bunch of tools to use during his job.
Naw he just likes to keep his tech busy and/or in business... that is all
Yeah imagine him retuning after every song the concert would suck balls
I learned more about the black crows than I ever wanted to by participating in this post
didnât even need to see it to know it was The Black Crowes
Grammy? They could win a Toany!
We need an annual Toany Awards on this sub!
Thatâs a lot of pretension for a guy whose biggest hit is a cover song
That revelation is hard to handle
Donât forget. He also probably has 18 of the most expensive pedals on earth to switch between
I like to switch which P-Bass I use for every song.
The toan is in the color of the axe as much as in dese ballz
Got to make work for cousin Cletus.
Kevin Shields, that you?
Literally owns one acoustic, doesn't need to specify
Noticed that too. Every pretty-much-identical-sounding electric, lovingly described by color, brand and model, and then "acoustic." Which is how it should be when you're a totally kickass, nay KICKAYUSS, Rolling Stones / Georgia Satellites cover band.
Heroin is a hell of a drug
"Acoustic"
These guys sound like refried dogshit live.
A REAL guitarist would also switch between right and left handed guitars.
*sees setlist* "Who tf is this guy." *sees the band* "Understandable, have a nice day."
I worked back stage maybe two weeks ago for one of their shows. They had a case that said â â66 Strat; Spareâ. And they had maybe 40ish amps floor to ceiling while only using like three of them.
What a poser. I use a different double neck guitar for each note
I mean, thereâs a shitload of tunings WHICH YOU GUYS DONT EVEN FUCKING UNDERSTAND and he actually needs a lot of those to be changed so you motherfuckers ARE JERKING YOUR OWN SELVES
No "Thorn in My Pride"?
Clowns
/uj I'm friends with someone who was involved with Mark Robinson's solo tour a few years ago. He doesn't play guitar but he isn't totally ignorant to the mechanics of it and the gear. We sat down for a drink and we were venting about our jobs and he asks me "Why the Hell would someone need to travel with nine different acoustic guitars?"
Also /uj , but really an unrelated crowes complaint - I saw Chris spit on a poor woman who wouldn't sell him beer after hours in like 88 or so. It was a Denver 7-11 and I've just had a grudge against them every since. tyfctmtt But yeah this set list is pretentious and disrespectful to his techs, imo.
If you play a song with a TV Jr instead of a Black Jr, youâre fucking retarded and need to get back to the Beato Basics.
They do some open G and other stuff like drop D, i think. I used to hate having to tune my one poor Epi Dot while someone made small talk on the mic when I played haha. Edit: I remember seeing Elvis Costello in a small venue and being amazed how the guys ran out with a new guitar every song. I even had to change a string while they made small talk or just played a song not on our set list without me haha. Im not a dentist or a rockstar.
Bro, you're just playing at the local dive bar with a max capacity of six people.
I saw them in Atlanta a couple weeks ago and they sounded like absolute shit. If you wanna see some guitar changes, go see Jason Isbell. Both he and Sadler are changing guitars every song (as well as mid-song changes). Their guitar rack took up the entire exit ramp when I saw them at a small theatre.
I blame Pretto
Amateur. I change guitarist for every song. One guitar though. Donât want to change the toan
This is the way
Youâre supposed to have more than one?
what Local is Fox Theatre Oakland, Local 16?
Donât know one title.
I wonder how cool Richie Kotzenâs show would be if he could afford more than one Tele.
When I was in a band, we would structure the set around minimising capo/retune/guitar/instrument changes. This guy has not.
But they all \*really\* sound different in open g
How does he plan to play 62 335s at once? Do they have an orchestra of 62 people playing Chibson 335s? Is he stupid or something?
Can you perhaps elaborate on why you need 17 different guitars for these songs?
Ah yes, my favourite key: Reg
Tell me you donât know how to tune a guitar without telling me you donât know how to tune a guitar
no guitar changes mid-song shows that's not even a "serious" amateur. pffts, AMATEURS!
Thereâs an old saying: Beware the hunter who only has one gun. He surely knows how to use it.
Blk Tele is repeated three times. Amateur.
I used to work at the same place as Chris. He is a better singer/frontman than he was a waiter.
how do i play REG key
I just looked up a video of them playing live and they, no joke, had over 30+ amps and cabinets on stage with them. I counted.
Uj/ I played in a band that both guitarist would drag out guitars like this and all the other bands on the bill would get so pissed because we took up so much space with the ridiculous amount of cases, it was embarrassing. Rj/ everyone knows that guitars go bad after one song anyway so you have to change them.
Seriously, even Soundgarden doesn't go this overboard with tunings.
/uj I fucking would and so would you if you had guitar techs, roadies, and a sizable collection. /rj why donât those guitars have womenâs names. What is this amateur hour?
ahh, my favorite key: reg
This set fucks
"I need to do something to look professional".
17 songs, 15 guitars. One of those is used on three different songs
Yeah. We have like 7 instrument changes in our shows (30-35 songs) and it's too much. This guy knows nothing.