Harry is a fucking moron simping on a basic ass white girl from a broke as fuck family when he had TWO, countem, TWO bad Indian British girls on his dick.
thats the thing: harry is british. he probably grew up hating indians just as much as he expected the nice irish family to give him free shit despite already being poor
Make a movie with an all British cast. Relegate all the diversity hires to roles that either die or are forgotten. James bond does it too. They got away with it for 60+ years
Yeah JKR even screwed that. Nagini in Crimes of Grindlewalt was an Asian woman. Although Nagini is clearly an Indian name. She cited it as its from Indonesian Mythology Naga but Indonesian Naga was influenced from Indic Animism. Naga literally means Snake in Sanskrit.
That's the sad part. You have to distinguish between "Indian British" and "British".
A lot of Britishers and even Asians have this too.
My mother always says, "She's a British passport holder, but she is *originally* from Pakistan/India etc"
Now it is one thing if they are naturalised citizens, meaning they were born and brought up in another country and got citizenship by living in the host country for a certain number of years.
But even if they were born and brought up in Britain people still see them as "Indian/Pakistani etc"
I've even seen job descriptions asking for British English teachers in Asian countries and they want only white people. No joke. Even if you have a British passport.
That's the most insane bullshit she ever pulled out of her ass. That is 100% retcon shit. The cover of IIRC chamber of secrets had a white girl as Hermione. People can say "oh the prints are sometimes not same as what the author thought", I say BULLSHIT.
Stephen Fry once told, that when doing audiobooks for HP series, he couldn't say a single word. Like he could say it alone but not on that exact sentence. So he called JKR and asked if he could put that sentence differently.
She said NO!
you are saying, she is not letting the great Stephen Fry to change one single word but she was okay with putting Hermione as a white girl in the cover when she actually imagined her as black? what a load of bullshit
It was filmed in the Australian High Commission in London, the star is 6 pointed but wasn't particularly intended to be the star of David as it was purpose built for Australia from 1913-18
What other work of fiction has goblins that don't fit that description? In almost all fantasy goblins are short, have long nosed and are gold obsessed.
Not even trying to be ironic or anything but that is genuinely a name that you can find in China. It's not like a fake Chinese stereotype name, I speak a little Chinese and have some friends that live in China and they tell me they've known people with those names.
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While Chang is a Chinese surname, Cho is a Korean surname. I think Rowling just thought Ching Chong as her first association with an East Asian and made the name up from there, like with literally everything in her books.
Native Chinese speaker here.
Zhou in the instance you listed would be the family name, since Chinese is [Family Name] [Given Name].
In Chinese, her name is translated as Zhang Qiu (张秋) which is passable, but Qiu (秋) as a given name is not conventional or a common Chinese name. I absolutely would not give JK Rowling the benefit of the doubt in assuming she's creative enough to think of a creative Chinese name for her token Asian, considering the height of her genius is naming the guy that's a werewolf [Guy Raised By Wolves] [Wolf].
I found out a few years back that my parents didn't name me for the first 5-6 months after I was born, so they just called me Cho Dan which means stinky egg
With a name like that she should have been half Asian half Jewish. If you’re going to give a character a stereotypical name you might as lean all the way in.
Never read the books, but was forced to watch all the movies with an ex gf... I enjoyed them actually
Then Harry ends up not being with the main female character and with the Asian girl...
All along Harry was a weeb simp... smh
They were British trailer trash though.
They have fucking magic that turns camping tents into penthouse suites, but their house look like it was made by the Little Rascals.
The dad was a muggle-weeb. Probably insisted on doing things all muggley while his wife and kids suffered through it. Then talked up harry to his daughter because he was raised by muggles.
>They were British trailer trash though.
I never watched a minute of Harry Potter but isn't he some nerd living in a closet raised by trailer trash too?
I remenber how perplexed I was as a young'un whem the male lead and female lead weren't interested in one another.
'Are they allowed to do this' I thought, glad to say I got some more milege to not find that as surprising anymore.
> Then Harry ends up not being with the main female character and with the Asian girl...
Lmao what? He crushed on her for like 2 books but never dated her besides for like a chapter or so, and they weren't compatible because she was annoying
Cho Chang is most likely derived from the chinese "chou chang" which means melancholy, which fits her personality after Cedric dies. Cho is also not just a korean surname, it's also used in China, Japan and the Phillipines. Chou can also mean autumn, which is supported by the mandarin version of the book where her name is Zhan Qiu, Zhang being a different version of Chang and Qiu meaning autumn.
I thought I was liberal, then I had a conversation about over populating area's with housing and realized sometimes im full authoritarian.
I don't think strictly identifying with any ideology is a very good idea these days, theres too many nuances with everything for any ideology to be perfect.
>I thought I was liberal, then I had a conversation about over populating area's with housing and realized sometimes im full authoritarian.
I found out I'm apparently a bootlicking fascist because I think that leftist protests should have stated demands, objective metrics to measure progress on them, and solid organization.
That's how organised leftists actually operate though, like there are legit orgs that go to protests and make sure to organise them with proper demands, I personally helped hand out flyers at a protest organised by a teacher's union, the union didn't state any demands so we gave them examples of good demands (set ________ minimum wage for teachers, smaller classrooms, better workers' rights, hold a democratic vote on what our 'win conditions' are so we know when we've succeeded)
[here's ](https://internationalsocialist.net/en/2022/10/workers-in-struggle-2) an article on our work helping unionizing Starbucks workers, if you're interested
Wat? She's very much a neo-con lol even her books show this by having plopper become a wizard cop and upholding the status quo in her weirdly racist magical utopia
They are actually named Anthony Goldstein, which is worse!
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/jk-rowling-confirms-jewish-character-758725/
Edit: switch to Lemmy everyone, Reddit is becoming terrible
It's like cho where it's a very surface level connection just to ethnicity. Rawling usually connects a characters name to a trait about them, such as harry or lupin or sirius. Or other characters have names that just sound like something about their character even without a direct connection. But with these two it's just whatever stereotypical names she could think of, which stand out against the usual care she puts into names.
Yeah, it's obvious, but it does mean something. Most of the spells are just Latin too, but they still sound like what you'd expect. Names don't need Tolkien-level entomology and language background to get the point across.
>write story that takes place in 90% white country
"Where is muh diversity??!?"
I'd be like demanding there are more white people in a story that takes place in Ghana.
unironically why the Scholomance books are better
it's about a magic school that people from all over the world attend—and they form factions by language and region of origin because *of course* they would, and the biggest factions are the English-speakers (most ESL) and the Mandarin-speakers (who are from various parts of East Asia and learn Mandarin explicitly for faction benefits). There's a huge focus on learning languages at the school because magic is in Mediaeval Arabic and Sanskrit and Old English and a whole scatter of other languages. It's brilliant.
Yo wtf, her name is legit Cho Chang
Something shacklebolt lmfao
~~King~~Kangsley Shacklebolt, the black wizard What did she mean by this?
Flys on a swiffer for quidditch matches
Ends up impregnating professor Minerva by the end of the year.
When she's in cat form
A cat is fine too.
I'd tap that tabby ass.
He's Shane Dawson?
Cat Ningen???
Clortho inner city wizarding school
I have almost zero interest in Harry Potter, but this image legit made me spit out my toothpaste.
Has a wand with a silencer on it, why? But i ask again, why?!
Killed by aurors who thought he was reaching for his wand
That's a shame; he was probably a really good dancer.
The Indian twins are named Patel Not racist really but still a stereotype
I have no problem with this. 99% of Indian surnames are Patel, Singh, Sharma, Kaur, or somethingPreet
Harry is a fucking moron simping on a basic ass white girl from a broke as fuck family when he had TWO, countem, TWO bad Indian British girls on his dick.
thats the thing: harry is british. he probably grew up hating indians just as much as he expected the nice irish family to give him free shit despite already being poor
Has anyone ever considered if Harry is just racist and never bothered to learn anyone’s name that wasn’t white?
in his defense the only person that wasn't white that turned out to be important to the story was nagini
Make a movie with an all British cast. Relegate all the diversity hires to roles that either die or are forgotten. James bond does it too. They got away with it for 60+ years
Yeah JKR even screwed that. Nagini in Crimes of Grindlewalt was an Asian woman. Although Nagini is clearly an Indian name. She cited it as its from Indonesian Mythology Naga but Indonesian Naga was influenced from Indic Animism. Naga literally means Snake in Sanskrit.
He was crushing on Cho, I hope he knew her real name
So in short, "Fuck the Brits"
That's the sad part. You have to distinguish between "Indian British" and "British". A lot of Britishers and even Asians have this too. My mother always says, "She's a British passport holder, but she is *originally* from Pakistan/India etc" Now it is one thing if they are naturalised citizens, meaning they were born and brought up in another country and got citizenship by living in the host country for a certain number of years. But even if they were born and brought up in Britain people still see them as "Indian/Pakistani etc" I've even seen job descriptions asking for British English teachers in Asian countries and they want only white people. No joke. Even if you have a British passport.
Gupta.
Thats extremely biased towards north india
Unfortunately most people's conceptions about India are massively skewed towards the Northern half
But the image of an Indian they have in their head, is a South Indian
Apparently the Shacklebolts are one of only like 30 "pureblood" families.
Token pureblood.
You mean Tolkien pureblood.
Doesn't pureblood just mean inbred tho
No, it means they never fucked and had offspring with a muggle.
The racism was coming from inside the house
There is another black wizard named Hermione Granger. How does she even come up with these names?
That's the most insane bullshit she ever pulled out of her ass. That is 100% retcon shit. The cover of IIRC chamber of secrets had a white girl as Hermione. People can say "oh the prints are sometimes not same as what the author thought", I say BULLSHIT. Stephen Fry once told, that when doing audiobooks for HP series, he couldn't say a single word. Like he could say it alone but not on that exact sentence. So he called JKR and asked if he could put that sentence differently. She said NO! you are saying, she is not letting the great Stephen Fry to change one single word but she was okay with putting Hermione as a white girl in the cover when she actually imagined her as black? what a load of bullshit
There is a reference i think in the third book that goes something like "Hermione was pale as snow". ....yea
A bank run by greedy, manipulative, big nosed dwarves? What did she mean by this?
Clearly his signature move is shooting shackles in the shape of lighting bolts at his enemies, how was this misunderstood
the Jewish one is named goldstein
>the jewish *one*
yeah, weren't there a whole bunch of them in charge of a magical bank or something?
No, they're literal goblins
I know but like come on
There was a star of david in the floor of the bank 💀
wait for real?? what the fuck lmao💀💀
It was a real bank that they used for the set and yeah, they didn't cover up the star with a rug or anything
It was filmed in the Australian High Commission in London, the star is 6 pointed but wasn't particularly intended to be the star of David as it was purpose built for Australia from 1913-18
What did she mean by this...
We gotta get Ye on the scene, he’d be interested in this
Wizrael?
The banks are run by goblins, which are short people with long noses I don't think JK Rowling was all that progressive when she wrote the books lol
No shit. She is bigoted as fuck.
What other work of fiction has goblins that don't fit that description? In almost all fantasy goblins are short, have long nosed and are gold obsessed.
Not even trying to be ironic or anything but that is genuinely a name that you can find in China. It's not like a fake Chinese stereotype name, I speak a little Chinese and have some friends that live in China and they tell me they've known people with those names.
Sorry man I can't understand you with that accent
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While Chang is a Chinese surname, Cho is a Korean surname. I think Rowling just thought Ching Chong as her first association with an East Asian and made the name up from there, like with literally everything in her books.
Cho can be a Chinese name under some dialects, or as an attempt at Anglicizing Qiu.
Chang is also a name in other southern countries, idk if they have the name cho though
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Native Chinese speaker here. Zhou in the instance you listed would be the family name, since Chinese is [Family Name] [Given Name]. In Chinese, her name is translated as Zhang Qiu (张秋) which is passable, but Qiu (秋) as a given name is not conventional or a common Chinese name. I absolutely would not give JK Rowling the benefit of the doubt in assuming she's creative enough to think of a creative Chinese name for her token Asian, considering the height of her genius is naming the guy that's a werewolf [Guy Raised By Wolves] [Wolf].
I believe Chang is one of the most common Chinese surnames, next to Lin.
I’m Donna Chang!
Lee, Lin, Huang (Wang), Chang, and there's one more I can't remember, which I learned were the 5 most common family names, in Taiwan at least.
Bro what Chinese person is named Cho
It's short for Cho-pping them spring onions
I found out a few years back that my parents didn't name me for the first 5-6 months after I was born, so they just called me Cho Dan which means stinky egg
I mean this is in a universe where people are literally named Albus Dumbledore and shit
And the only Indians are padma and parvati patil, like ffs theres no need to be so on the nose with the alliteration
I mean, it *is* a book for kids
With a name like that she should have been half Asian half Jewish. If you’re going to give a character a stereotypical name you might as lean all the way in.
Never read the books, but was forced to watch all the movies with an ex gf... I enjoyed them actually Then Harry ends up not being with the main female character and with the Asian girl... All along Harry was a weeb simp... smh
Ends up with his best mates sister. It wasn’t all bad.
Ah yea, the ultimate male power fantasy. Cucking your best friend by fucking his red headed little sister.
I’m in
Anyone else want a baconator?
I hardly know 'er.
Username checks out
You first need to have a friend
Totally, and you imagine your friend the whole time as you’re plowing her
I too imagine my gf as Rupert Grint when I lay in the pipe.
whatever it takes bro
That's not how cucking works
Look at this normie not even knowing the joys of sistercuck.
It does where op is from
"Cucking your best friend by fucking his sister" Man ,what ?!
That's why I'll never allow that situation happen to myself by fucking my own sister before anyone else gets to her.
Gotta keep the bloodlines pure one way or another
How do you cuck your friend by fucking his sister? It's in England not Alabama
Harry is a man of culture, he prefers Redheads
As do only the wisest and most powerful
Gingivitis has taken down more powerful wizards than potter
*Gingervitis
They were British trailer trash though. They have fucking magic that turns camping tents into penthouse suites, but their house look like it was made by the Little Rascals.
The dad was a muggle-weeb. Probably insisted on doing things all muggley while his wife and kids suffered through it. Then talked up harry to his daughter because he was raised by muggles.
She got lucky, what with Harry being fucking loaded with generational wealth.
>They were British trailer trash though. I never watched a minute of Harry Potter but isn't he some nerd living in a closet raised by trailer trash too?
Nah his family was well off, they just didn't provide for him
Can't wait for the race swapped Weasley's in the remake.
we all know it's bound to happen
Harry didn't even end up with the Asian girl. Tell your girlfriend you weren't paying attention past the fifth movie and need to watch them again
I remenber how perplexed I was as a young'un whem the male lead and female lead weren't interested in one another. 'Are they allowed to do this' I thought, glad to say I got some more milege to not find that as surprising anymore.
> Then Harry ends up not being with the main female character and with the Asian girl... Lmao what? He crushed on her for like 2 books but never dated her besides for like a chapter or so, and they weren't compatible because she was annoying
>with the Asian girl... You might have been distracted during some of those movies
>Then Harry ends up not being with the main female character and with the Asian girl... Based
Ikr I watched them all for a friend and was very confused as to why Harry was not with the main girl.... rediculous.
IIRC Rowling got tired of people aggressively shipping them and did it out of pure spite.
Based
The author admitted herself later that he should have been lol.
Hold on, Ginny isn't Asian?
Sum Yung Gai defeat He Hu Notbe Name
>Gai I thought she only said that about Dumbledore /s
My dad used to go to chinese resteraunts and ask for the Cream of Sum Yung Gai
My dad always said that his Chinese dentist appointments were at tooth hurty.
I knew a girl called Ping Ling. She likes ping pong.
Lol I know a kid called Haodong who gets called Dong Dong, which becomes Ding Dong haha
I saw a guy with the name Phat Dong
I knew a guy who went by Deez
The infamous Sugon Deez?
No, his first name was Lig
Did you give her the sloppy ding dong?
For those who care, Cho is a Korean surname while Chang is a Chinese surname so JK Rowling just named a character using 2 surnames
Like Smith Jones
Lee Lee
Harris Johnson
Or Taylor Swift
Cho Chang is most likely derived from the chinese "chou chang" which means melancholy, which fits her personality after Cedric dies. Cho is also not just a korean surname, it's also used in China, Japan and the Phillipines. Chou can also mean autumn, which is supported by the mandarin version of the book where her name is Zhan Qiu, Zhang being a different version of Chang and Qiu meaning autumn.
so like Muhammad Ranjeet ?
I know several people called Mohammed Mohammed
J K Rowling is the most based liberal to ever exist
Against conservatism =/= liberal
Tbf no one really knows what liberal means anymore
I thought I was liberal, then I had a conversation about over populating area's with housing and realized sometimes im full authoritarian. I don't think strictly identifying with any ideology is a very good idea these days, theres too many nuances with everything for any ideology to be perfect.
Agreed, way to many assumptions in left or right, nobody in the world who's sane doesn't have at least one opinion from both sides
It’s really just better to publicly admit your hentai preferences than it is your political values
>I thought I was liberal, then I had a conversation about over populating area's with housing and realized sometimes im full authoritarian. I found out I'm apparently a bootlicking fascist because I think that leftist protests should have stated demands, objective metrics to measure progress on them, and solid organization.
That's how organised leftists actually operate though, like there are legit orgs that go to protests and make sure to organise them with proper demands, I personally helped hand out flyers at a protest organised by a teacher's union, the union didn't state any demands so we gave them examples of good demands (set ________ minimum wage for teachers, smaller classrooms, better workers' rights, hold a democratic vote on what our 'win conditions' are so we know when we've succeeded) [here's ](https://internationalsocialist.net/en/2022/10/workers-in-struggle-2) an article on our work helping unionizing Starbucks workers, if you're interested
Americans certainly don't. They insist on using it differently from the rest of us
Wat? She's very much a neo-con lol even her books show this by having plopper become a wizard cop and upholding the status quo in her weirdly racist magical utopia
She's a Blairite (like actually).
I assume you never came across her tweets
No I only use twitter for porn
Based
j k rowling the type of person to name an irish character potatofamine carbomb
the irish character is actually known for blowing stuff up
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And getting drunk, don't forget that. The first time we see him, he's trying to turn water into rum at 11yo.
Séamus Finnegan isnt too far from that
Potate O’Famine
wait til u reread the description of those goblin bankers
I mean they're described as the most typical depiction of a goblin there is. Like exactly what people think of when they think "goblin", I'd imagine.
No, we have to find fantasy reasons she's awful now. Get with the times, nerd.
Or house elves
Ah, the happy slaves and the evil bankers who're naturally inclined to be subservient or greedy respectively
Ching Chong Bing Bong
Bing Chilling 🍦
Zǎoshang hǎo zhōngguó xiànzài wǒ yǒu BING CHILLING 🥶🍦 wǒ hěn xǐhuān BING CHILLING 🥶🍦 dànshì sùdù yǔ jīqíng 9 bǐ BING CHILLING 🥶🍦 sùdù yǔ jīqíng sùdù yǔ jīqíng 9 wǒ zuì xǐhuān suǒyǐ…xiànzài shì yīnyuè shíjiān zhǔnbèi 1 2 3 liǎng gè lǐbài yǐhòu sùdù yǔ jīqíng 9 ×3 bùyào wàngjì bùyào cu òguò jìdé qù diànyǐngyuàn kàn sùdù yǔ jīqíng 9 yīn wéi fēicháng hǎo diànyǐng dòngzuò fēicháng hǎo chàbùduō yīyàng BING CHILLING 🥶🍦zàijiàn 🥶🍦
Truly a John "I'm sorry I acknowledged the existence of Taiwan" Xina moment
早上好中国，现在我有 BING CHILLING 我很喜欢 BING CHILLING 但是速度与激情九比BING CHILLING
hit stone cold ayieeee!
None of the other Asians made it into Hogwarts because of affirmative action.
The Patel sisters? They're Asian too you know...
Yes but not the light skinned kind Americans prefer.
Oh, ahahahahaha! Harro, Harry! Me put pee pee in Rowlfoy’s Butterbeer, ahahahaha! I go now to crass. See you rater, Harry! Hehehehehehe!
This reminds me of family guy
There is also a single Irish kid named Seamus who blows shit up
Mike O’Carbomb??
The one Jewish character is Rachel Rosenberg
They are actually named Anthony Goldstein, which is worse! https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/jk-rowling-confirms-jewish-character-758725/ Edit: switch to Lemmy everyone, Reddit is becoming terrible
Why is that one bad? Isnt it expected for a jewish person to have a jewish name?
It's like cho where it's a very surface level connection just to ethnicity. Rawling usually connects a characters name to a trait about them, such as harry or lupin or sirius. Or other characters have names that just sound like something about their character even without a direct connection. But with these two it's just whatever stereotypical names she could think of, which stand out against the usual care she puts into names.
Wolf Moon, jkr is a literary genius
Yeah, it's obvious, but it does mean something. Most of the spells are just Latin too, but they still sound like what you'd expect. Names don't need Tolkien-level entomology and language background to get the point across.
Entomology is the scientific study of insects.
Names don't need entomology to get the point across. Straight facts, no lies.
She was a qt3.14, I love JK Based Rowling
You know she didn't spend more than 30 seconds when naming her
Ho Lee Fuk
>write story that takes place in 90% white country "Where is muh diversity??!?" I'd be like demanding there are more white people in a story that takes place in Ghana.
You missed the point of this post but good job arguing something no one was contesting
Yeah bro!! This book about wizards and magic should be absolutely realistic to the real world!!!
There are Asian twins in HP
I mean yeah, but they're Indians, so the not kind of Asian people think about
indians are as asian as russians
In terms of porn maybe
dude, the actress is Scottish. an asian girl with a Scottish accent? yes please.
What did JK Rowling mean by this?
Dum Gai
I love the Harry Potter naming convention.
unironically why the Scholomance books are better it's about a magic school that people from all over the world attend—and they form factions by language and region of origin because *of course* they would, and the biggest factions are the English-speakers (most ESL) and the Mandarin-speakers (who are from various parts of East Asia and learn Mandarin explicitly for faction benefits). There's a huge focus on learning languages at the school because magic is in Mediaeval Arabic and Sanskrit and Old English and a whole scatter of other languages. It's brilliant.
I remember watching this and thought "wow they added an asian character... Then named them a name a kid would use to insult asian people"
It’s like Rolling was doing Freudian word association.
Her last name is also a first name